jstbeinhonest:


According to Madridistas, Ramos is better than Puyol, Marcelo>Alba/Abidal, Pepe>Pique, Cassilas>Valdes, Alonso>Busquet, Ronaldo>Messi, Ozil/Dimaria>Pedro.

burberry89:


Can you tell me where Ronaldo was when Messi won 8 la liga trophies in the past 10 years. Messi is the highest goal scorer in all competition this season with 57 goals. Ronaldo is good no doubt but Madrid team has been exceptionally good in the last 2 seasons and all thanks to Luis Enrique who bought the wrong set of players like andre Gomes, denis Suarez, digne n co to make the team weaker. Luis Enrique is weak technically if not that Barcelona has a good team they wouldn't have won any thing. He lost la liga for them this season because of his stupid tactics. How can a coach bench rakitic for andre Gomes to be on the field.

jstbeinhonest:


You're joking right? Allegri coached Juve in '15, They had a Vidal, Pirlo, Tevez and Morata. The also won a double and knocked out Real that year, and were just as defensive, so stop goofing around.

charlesluthor:

So Madrid dnt ve past questions abi?

jstbeinhonest:


There is nothing like 'barcastats', Do you disagree with any of the comparisms i made above?

alBHAGDADI:
Messi is pure talent. Ronaldo is talent plus hard work training.

When talent sleeps, the o e that does hard work takes over.

hazard54:
christiano ronaldo goal scoring record..... 600th carrier goals yesterday

while messi 573 carrier goals
d only difference between the two of of dem is dat messi is a born talent while ronaldo work Towards it.

yemiosinbajo:


So how come Barca humbled Madrid even without Neymar?

humilitypays:
No, Ronaldo is just too lucky, no special talent in his footballing skill....he can't dribble, can't do leg-over, can't skip, etc but can run....he is just lucky that after his teammates finishes the job, he will be at the right place at the right time to kick the ball into the net.

Messi is skillful, talented but not as lucky as Cristiano Ronaldo...Arjen Robben is even more gifted than Cristiano, but luck has never been on his side just like Garreth B.....no wonder the Bible said, the race is not for the swift nor the wise, but of God who showeth mercy....grace is all we need to succeed in life not even talent cos so many talented people are hungry and wasting while some fortunate people are making it big like my uncle Goodluck Jonathan who operates under the power of grace and divine favor!

God is also favoring Cristiano because he is so kind and generous; all his childhood friends are feeding and balling with his wealth...he takes care of them and many more unlike Messi and other stingy people who don't know that God blessed them to bless people around them....God loves kind and generous people but hates prideful, pompous and wicked people, even if they prosper, their success doesn't last like kind/generous people, be kind to your friends and family from today if God has blessed u

gurunlocker:
Ronaldo only converted himself to just a goal scorer, I am sure he won't be regarded as world best if he plays and have team burden like Messi.

Ronaldo just score, MESSI works, dribble and score. For four years now, you will see Ronaldo doesn't play as a winger again just to score because he believes scoring will earn him the world best award. That doesn't mean he is the best.

Just imagine MESSI doing same, staying inside box and waiting for pass to score, won't that be boring? 0

One thing I like about Ronaldo is the hardwork, nothing more.

kov624665:
oh, you're mad already

kov624665:
oh, you're mad already

9jakohai:
Messi: One world cup final.

Rinaldo: One world cup semi final.

No contest.

amalder:
am CR7 fan but Messi is better than him.

gameboyo:


But same juventus humbled barca

Vindyk:

is dat hw yours take start?
is dat hw yours take start?

Secrets11:
So because CR7 won last night he has suddenly become better than Messi? We all. Watched both guys go head-to-head in their last El Classico and please remind me who came out tops? Messi of course dismantled real Madrid while CR7 was no where to be found. Juventus wasn't an opposition that could trouble Madrid so my brother no even compare both guys because Messi is the best amongst the two guys

Rapahel1116:
U like ronaldo....messi is on equal goal scoring rate as cr7 ,messi creates more, messi dribbles more....more entertaining.... BT Ronaldo is another tin...see just enjoy dem....u stopped messi Nd Rinaldo argument d day I saw wat dis two guys were earning.....lolx...who dem EPP...just enjoy d two greatest players of dis generation .

heckymaicon:
we have just 3 footballers in the world today,


RONALDO


messi

and

others

9jakohai:
Messi: One world cup final.

Rinaldo: One world cup semi final.

No contest.

Secrets11:
So because CR7 won last night he has suddenly become better than Messi? We all. Watched both guys go head-to-head in their last El Classico and please remind me who came out tops? Messi of course dismantled real Madrid while CR7 was no where to be found. Juventus wasn't an opposition that could trouble Madrid so my brother no even compare both guys because Messi is the best amongst the two guys

SirTee02:
these topic wouldn't have happened had higuain scored in the final of the World Cup like elder did for Portugal in Euro, the argument would have died since 2014 , unlucky messi

SycophanticGoat:


Nonsense analysis. Even though I know that Messi is a better player than Ronaldo while Ronaldo is a more determined and focused footballer, don't you think it's unwise to judge both of them with just one meeting in El classico?

If I go by your logic then I will use Juve Vs Madrid to knock Messi off because I will tell you that that Ronaldo did what Messi, Neymar and Suarez couldn't do which was, beating the Juve defence and keeper; therefore Ronaldo is better than all 3 players combined..

olassy239:
Madrid tactic is just like other teams,they r hard too mark down because they are fast in counter,they cross ball,they square play,they nod ball,good defence, and they r fast,barca just play a tiki taka which is very easy for teams to defend against them.and use the counter against them(poor defence) you will notice that every team barca played this year are always defending .same way teams are playing against Chelsea now

humilitypays:
No, Ronaldo is just too lucky, no special talent in his footballing skill....he can't dribble, can't do leg-over, can't skip, etc but can run....he is just lucky that after his teammates finishes the job, he will be at the right place at the right time to kick the ball into the net.

Messi is skillful, talented but not as lucky as Cristiano Ronaldo...Arjen Robben is even more gifted than Cristiano, but luck has never been on his side just like Garreth B.....no wonder the Bible said, the race is not for the swift nor the wise, but of God who showeth mercy....grace is all we need to succeed in life not even talent cos so many talented people are hungry and wasting while some fortunate people are making it big like my uncle Goodluck Jonathan who operates under the power of grace and divine favor!

God is also favoring Cristiano because he is so kind and generous; all his childhood friends are feeding and balling with his wealth...he takes care of them and many more unlike Messi and other stingy people who don't know that God blessed them to bless people around them....God loves kind and generous people but hates prideful, pompous and wicked people, even if they prosper, their success doesn't last like kind/generous people, be kind to your friends and family from today if God has blessed u

Secrets11:
So because CR7 won last night he has suddenly become better than Messi? We all. Watched both guys go head-to-head in their last El Classico and please remind me who came out tops? Messi of course dismantled real Madrid while CR7 was no where to be found. Juventus wasn't an opposition that could trouble Madrid so my brother no even compare both guys because Messi is the best amongst the two guys

LordAdam16:


You are a LM10 fan, don't make absurd claims.

Messi is not better than Ronaldo. And I'm sick of the talent card or that he is more fun to watch.

All Messi does is glue the ball to his feet and run past players. That's all he does.

And if you want to talk about if that is the most entertaining thing in football. Then you didn't watch Ronaldinho play.

What Ronaldinho, Zizinho, Garrincha did with the ball, Pele, Maradona, and Messi can't fathom. Those people made football an art form.

Messi went to Barca at age 13 and trained at La Masia for at least 7 hours per day for 5 years before his debut. The only thing he has above Xavi and Iniesta is dribbling and goal scoring. In creativity, vision, passing, he is not at the same level as those two unsung heroes.

And that brings me to my main point, the game of football rewards goal scorers and achievers. That's how we measure the best players. Add a bit of skill, dribbling, or flair, and there's a straight ticket to the hall of fame.

If Messi wasn't scoring goals he wouldn't win a Ballon D'or. Ditto for Ronaldo.

Look at Barcelona's squad of 2009-2013? Replace Messi with any world class player from Neymar to Hazard to Dybala and they'd win the exact same number of trophies and Ballon D'ors that Messi won. If that same world class player played for Barcelona from 13 years of age, it'd be just as easy for the player.

In fact, this is the first time you'd be hearing this, but Barcelona didn't need Messi in that time period to win trophies. The proof is in the fact that between 2008 and 2013, the Spanish National Team was without doubt the best team in the world and won every tournament they participated in. Messi was not in that team, but the core of the team was Barcelona.

On the flip side, look at Ronaldo. When he was younger he was great at showboating but wasn't as clinical as he is now. Ronaldo started winning Ballon D'ors when he started achieving and he played in teams (sporting lisbon, manchester united, and real madrid) that were about critical, ruthless finishing than beautiful possession football and he adapted his game appropriately. Messi on the other hand played in a team that is about entertaining, possession football and that became his identity.

Ronaldo does not have to dribble 5 players to score a goal, because that is unnecessary in Madrid's team. In fact from Man U, Sir Alex had already weaned him of less flair and made him concentrate more on his clinical ability. Messi does not even have to dribble 5 players to score a goal, because the entire Barcelona team can pass a ball into the net. Spain won games and tournaments without a player running past multiple players to score or lay a pass.

But when you talk about Ronaldo's clinical ability, there is no word to describe it. The timing of his runs, positioning, goal scoring technique is all down to intelligence and being a smarter player overall. He knows he doesn't have to showboat, he has passed that stage. All his showboating won him 1 Ballon D'or and 1 champions league. His clinical ability and goal scoring got him 3 Ballon D'or's, 3 champions league, 1 Euro cup, and 5 consecutive UEFA golden boots. If you are Ronaldo, what would you do then, more showboating, or just honing your clinical ability and becoming the best finisher in the history of the sport?

There's Isco, Modric, Kroos, Casemiro to do all the passing, all he has to do is be part of the ruthless attack and finish where necessary or make an assist. Even when Barcelona was at their top form, he was outscoring Messi consistently scoring 50 goals per year since 2010, getting Real Madrid to the Semi Finals of the UEFA Champions league, and trailing Barcelona in the league. This was in a time of inconsistency in the Bernabeu (Perez sold Ozil and Di Maria in their prime) and this was without the Xavi, Iniesta, Busquets midfield (the best midfield post-2000) that Messi had.

Just look at the difference. Messi is out there running past Alavez players in a Copa Del Rey final, while Ronaldo is making himself available to make clinical finishes against the best defense of the season. Allegri said that even if they gave Barcelona an extra hour, they still wouldn't have found the back of the net. Ronaldo found it in 20 minutes. Found a second 40 minutes later. Look at his second goal yesterday. Modric did not even look before crossing the ball into the area, but Ronaldo anticipated the run and positioned himself to rattle the mighty BBC defense and slot past the goalkeeper legend, something the entire MSN couldn't do in 120 minutes.

Give me that versus Messi's run and I'll choose Ronaldo's clinical ability everyday.

As at 2012 in the peak of Messi's career on the back of an unbelievable Barcelona team, he had 4 Ballon D'ors to Ronaldo's 1. 3 Champions league to Ronaldo's 1. In 2012, the jury was out already that Messi was miles ahead because despite Ronaldo becoming an accomplished goal scorer and skillful player, he just wasn't getting the results that Messi got.

Fast forward 5 years and Ronaldo has won 3 of the last 4 champion's leagues, and is set to win 4 of the last 5 Ballon D'Ors, and is the top UEFA goal scorer for each of the last 5 years. This is at a time of his career when he should be declining.

The difference between Messi and Ronaldo is evident in this year's UEFA goal tally. Messi had 11 versus Ronaldo's 2 before the knockout stages. Yet Ronaldo outscored Messi. Give me that versus running past players, and I'd choose the former everyday. That's what makes Ronaldo the better player. He doesn't have a peak. He keeps outdoing himself because he doesn't have a competition.

Without Suarez and Xavi, Messi wouldn't have had the treble in '15. And since then it has been downhill for him and his team. And the future is even more bleak for him going forward as Iniesta withers off. I wouldn't write him off, but as long as Ronaldo keeps breaking records and redefining what it means to be the greatest player to have ever played the game, the accolades would keep coming his way.

Messi plays amazing football, but in modern football love goes to the top achievers and goal scorers. After all, goals earn points. Most of the love Messi gets right now is because of what he achieved in 2009-2013. All of the love Ronaldo gets right now is because of what he keeps achieving since 2007.

Notice how I did not even talk about international duty? Or about Ronaldo adapting and achieving phenomenal results in two different leagues?

So, as I said, you are an LM10 fan. Every CR7 fan knows why CR7 is better than Messi. That's the passage of rites to becoming a CR7 fan.

-Lord