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Re: What The Igbo Can Learn From The Yoruba And Fulani About Power By Reno Omokri by LRNZH(m): 12:42am On Jun 04, 2017
Lalasticlala... see news o
Re: What The Igbo Can Learn From The Yoruba And Fulani About Power By Reno Omokri by Blue3k(m): 4:22am On Jun 04, 2017
The history is interesting. I don't agree with alot of his opinions about Igbo collective. The Igbos I know don't act like he describes. The people he talks about are nairaland loud mouths.

Honestly we don't believe believe in prostration. Alot of world dosent practice that in same manner. Some yurobas like my in law are not passing that on to children.
Re: What The Igbo Can Learn From The Yoruba And Fulani About Power By Reno Omokri by savage76(m): 7:10am On Jun 04, 2017
PFRB:
FAJUYI DID NOT CHOOSE TO DIE. FAJUYI WAS KILLED BECAUSE HE WAS PART OF THE JANUARY COUP AND DANJUMA KNEW
You mean Fajuyi was part of the 1966 coup??poor student of knowledge.
Re: What The Igbo Can Learn From The Yoruba And Fulani About Power By Reno Omokri by classicblue234(m): 9:37am On Jun 04, 2017
I have been following reno omokri on various social media platform and I can tell you he is one of the few people from the south that understand this country very well especially the north. he maybe wrong in some of his write ups but he is among the best investigative journalists we have in nigeria. my respect to reno omokri.



if you want to know more look for me.
Re: What The Igbo Can Learn From The Yoruba And Fulani About Power By Reno Omokri by pazienza(m): 1:41pm On Jun 04, 2017
savage76:

You mean Fajuyi was part of the 1966 coup??poor student of knowledge.

Yes, Fajuyi supported and mentored Nzeogwu and co.

Including giving them advice on her to go about the coup.

He also was the one who continuously pleaded on the behalf of Nzeogwu and co before Ironsi, when the North wanted them killed for the coup.

The North never forgave him. He was a marked man for death by the counter coup plotters, he didn't die pleading for Ironsi life. He died because he was marked for death.
The story of Fajuyi dying for Ironsi was a falsehood concocted by Lagos-Ibadan press.

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Re: What The Igbo Can Learn From The Yoruba And Fulani About Power By Reno Omokri by Guestlander: 1:45pm On Jun 04, 2017
pazienza:


Yes, Fajuyi supported and mentored Nzeogwu and co.

Including giving them advice on her to go about the coup.

He also was the one who continuously pleaded on the behalf of Nzeogwu and co before Ironsi, when the North wanted them killed for the coup.

The North never forgave him. He was a marked man for death by the counter coup plotters, he didn't die pleading for Ironsi life. He died because he was marked for death.


This is a blatant lie. Please provide one evidence linking Fajuyi to any coup. Lying is fast becoming your stock in trade for your mickey mouse agitation.
Tell all Nigerians today what they didnt know earlier about their country, provide just anything linking Fajuyi to Nzeogwu's coup.

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Re: What The Igbo Can Learn From The Yoruba And Fulani About Power By Reno Omokri by pazienza(m): 1:49pm On Jun 04, 2017
Guestlander:



This is a blatant lie. Please provide one evidence linking Fajuyi to any coup. Lying is fast becoming your stock in trade for your mickey mouse agitation.
Tell all Nigerians today what they didnt know earlier about their country, provide just anything linking Fajuyi to Nzeogwu's coup.

I'll be back with proofs. grin
Have a business to take care of now.

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Re: What The Igbo Can Learn From The Yoruba And Fulani About Power By Reno Omokri by Guestlander: 1:51pm On Jun 04, 2017
pazienza:


I'll be back with proofs. grin
Have a business to take care of now.

Of course. This is usually the part when something comes up.
Re: What The Igbo Can Learn From The Yoruba And Fulani About Power By Reno Omokri by IamaNigerianGuy(m): 2:00pm On Jun 04, 2017
Guestlander:



This is a blatant lie. Please provide one evidence linking Fajuyi to any coup. Lying is fast becoming your stock in trade for your mickey mouse agitation.
Tell all Nigerians today what they didnt know earlier about their country, provide just anything linking Fajuyi to Nzeogwu's coup.

That guy is dangerous. He is worse than Lai Mohammed. Just conjuring stories from thin air.
Re: What The Igbo Can Learn From The Yoruba And Fulani About Power By Reno Omokri by Guestlander: 2:11pm On Jun 04, 2017
IamaNigerianGuy:


That guy is dangerous. He is worse than Lai Mohammed. Just conjuring stories from thin air.

Why Fajuyi of all people? The reason is obvious, if they can soil his name then they can claim he had no other choice than to die with Ironsi. I am amazed at how low some of them are willing to go.
We have not only Fajuyi and Victor Banjo but many other Yorubas who had put put their lives on the line for the ibos, today these kids are desperately trying to tarnish their names.
Re: What The Igbo Can Learn From The Yoruba And Fulani About Power By Reno Omokri by pazienza(m): 5:19pm On Jun 04, 2017
How Ironsi was killed, by his ADC
By PETRUS OBI, Abakaliki
Monday, June 28, 2004
• Senator Andrew Nwankwo
Photo.Sun News Publishing
Senator Andrew Nwankwo from the Izzi clan in
Abakaliki, Ebonyi State, was a captain in the
Nigeria Air Force before the January 1966 coup
that made way for Major General J. T. U Aguiyi
Ironsi to emerge as Head of State.
He became Ironsi’s Aide-De-Camp through the
recommendation of Brigadier George Krubo who
was then in-charge of the Air Force and
subsequently supervised the late Head of State’s
security.
Capt. Andrew Nwankwo (rtd) said he was to die
with his boss, but for fate. He was present when
both Ironsi and Fajuyi were shot dead.


Tracking the 61-year-old former ADC down in his
one story building residence in Abakaliki was not
as difficult as getting him to recall the events that
led to the death of his master 38 years ago.
He would start by taking you down memory lane
when he served as a courier to late Emperor Haile
Selassie of Ethiopia, "I was manning the octopus-a
helicopter that carries 105 artillery gun and six
other machine guns.

"So when Ethiopia was at war with Somalia in
1964/65 we formed the defence group of the
emperor, we also formed an attack force. When the
emperor is going to the frontline to see what is
happening, we ring him round to clear the way for
him".

It was part of these that Ironsi saw and handed
over his security to the young captain. "It was cool
working with Ironsi, he understood everything
about what I should do because he had
commanded the UN forces in Congo, and that
exposed him to the type of people he needed".

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Re: What The Igbo Can Learn From The Yoruba And Fulani About Power By Reno Omokri by pazienza(m): 5:21pm On Jun 04, 2017
The coup

Recalling the events of that night, July 29, 1966,
Nwankwo noted that they were in Ibadan, "we had
a small detachment of 106 Artillery, Commanded
by one Walbe from Plateau"

The Head of State had the previous day hosted
traditional rulers from all parts of the country in
the Ibadan Government House. "He wasn’t feeling
quite well, he had a knee problem and had to go to
bed early.

"Lieutenant Sanni Bello was the army ADC, and we
were very close. So, we left that night to go and
look out and came back late. Lt. Adamu who was
the ADC to Fajuyi, Sanni Bello, Walbe and myself,
we all slept together in one room that night".

"At about 4a.m the telephone rang, I picked it up
and that was Adeola, the then commissioner of
police, Ibadan he said he wanted to speak with
Ironsi, I said I was the ADC, he said he wanted to
speak with him because there was a coup and he
gave me some names Orok and two others that
had been killed in
Abeokuta.
"Immediately, I made a mental picture of it, and I
knew that it was the northerners that were
responsible. So, I handed the phone to Ironsi and
they talked. I then alerted Adamu and Sanni Bello
and said look, there is a coup and the trend is this
way.

"Bello assured me that if it is his own people he
will protect me, because, there was tension in the
land such that we knew a coup was imminent. So,
we agreed to protect each other depending on
where it will be coming from. I later discovered
that Walbe who was sleeping with us was part of
the coup; he later became ADC to Gowon.

"Around 5:30 we heard gunfire, then Ironsi had
called Col. Njoku to tell him about the coup. As
Njoku was going out, he was short at, but he
escaped with bullet wounds. It was Njoku, who was
the commander of Lagos Garrison that alerted
others outside the Government House, Ibadan.
"Fajuyi later sent me outside the government House
to find out what was happening. I met Danjuma,
who was then a major and he was my friend. He
pretended he didn’t know what was happening, he
was asking me, and I said I didn’t know. While I
was trying to go back, one sergeant from Benue
almost shot me, but Danjuma stopped him and
spoke to him in Hausa. Danjuma later told me that
he would like to see Ironsi, so that he could tell
them what to do.

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Re: What The Igbo Can Learn From The Yoruba And Fulani About Power By Reno Omokri by pazienza(m): 5:24pm On Jun 04, 2017
"It was then that Fajuyi came out to find out what
was holding me, and there inside the Government
House Danjuma ordered for his arrest and mine
too. That was when I saw Walbe. Then Fajuyi
asked me to take him to Ironsi so that they will
obey him, that there should be only one person in
charge. So, I took them to Ironsi, and major
Newman, immediately he saw Ironsi, he seized his
crocodile swagger stick, and then they started
asking him about the January coup, he said he
didn’t know about it that he only agreed to be Head
of State so that he can restore confidence and
normalcy. It was immediately they arrested Ironsi
that they turned violent".

The road to the valley of death
They marched us down, Ironsi and myself, to where
Fajuyi was. They used telephone cable to tie my
hands behind and my legs, with a little space to
walk. Same they did to Ironsi, but they removed
his shirt, he wore only trousers, they also tied
Fajuyi. Ironsi was in a Land Rover, Fajuyi in a mini
bus and myself in another bus. They drove us
towards Iwo Road, 10 km from Ibadan, there was a
small forest were they stopped, marched us to the
right hand side of the bush, Fajuyi was leading and
as he tried to cross a small stream, he fell down,
the soldiers were unruly, it appeared some of them
had for the first time taken Indian hemp, so when
he fell down some of them started beating him.

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Re: What The Igbo Can Learn From The Yoruba And Fulani About Power By Reno Omokri by pazienza(m): 5:26pm On Jun 04, 2017
My escape
As Fajuyi fell down and they were beating him,
Sanni Bello came to me and tapped me and said,
we could do something now. It was providence,
may be I was not destined to die. I took a few
steps from them and jumped into a nearby ditch,
all in a split of a second, Bello came and stood by
the ditch and was shouting that I had escaped
pointing at another direction. So the soldiers ran
around that direction shooting into the bush, and
when they felt they must have killed me, they shot
Fajuyi and then Ironsi there, by the side of the
stream. So Bello made sure that he was the last to
leave the place.

The ADC, who was later elected senator in 1983
stated that the former Head of State could have
escaped if not that he wanted to make sure that
there was no bloodshed. He said if he sacrificed
his life and prevented bloodshed in Nigeria, it’s
better for him. Even his chaplain urged him to
escape but he said No. Also many of his officers
who were contacted instead of taking action ran
away.

The ADC denied the prevailing story that Ironsi was
tied to a Land Rover and dragged along the road.
He maintained that he saw Ironsi and Fajuyi shot
dead. "They shot him on the chest and it was a
burst, so he would have died after the first shot".

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Re: What The Igbo Can Learn From The Yoruba And Fulani About Power By Reno Omokri by pazienza(m): 5:32pm On Jun 04, 2017
The above was an eye witness account of Fajuyi and Ironsi final moments on earth by Nwankwo Andrew, Ironsi ADC.

Notice nowhere in the story was Fajuyi pictured begging for Ironsi life. This couldn't have happened, because Fajuyi himself was marked for death by the Northern counter coup plotters.

The story of Fajuyi being a martyr who died begging for Ironsi life was a propaganda, a falsehood manufactured by Lagos-Ibadan press.
I will write more on that later.

Now, the question is why was Fajuyi marked for death by the mutineers? cool

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Re: What The Igbo Can Learn From The Yoruba And Fulani About Power By Reno Omokri by DerideGull(m): 5:33pm On Jun 04, 2017
StateNews:
This week marked the 50th anniversary of the declaration of the Sovereign State of Biafra and one or more questions still linger. I will not delve into the more contentious questions, but for the sake of improving the relationship between the Igbo and their Yoruba neighbors, let me touch on one or two areas where, if the truth is brought to the fore, the relationship between omo Oduduwa and Ndi'Igbo could be improved.
Firstly, why do Ndi'Igbo still believe the false stereotype that the omo Oduduwa (Yoruba) are cowards? This is simply not true and the facts do not support this belief.
In the history of Nigeria, only two men have returned to Nigeria to face almost certain death even when they had the option of a very comfortable political asylum abroad. Both of them are Yoruba. In 1985, General Ibrahim Badamasi Babangida toppled the Buhari regime while Major General Tunde Idiagbon (mixed Yoruba/Fulani) was at Mecca yet Idiagbon returned.
In 1995, Olusegun Obasanjo (pure Owu Yoruba) was accused of planning a coup by the blood thirsty tyrant, Abacha (if you do not like that truthful description of Abacha or if you believe that 'Abacha did not loot', you can go and join him where he is) while he was away in Copenhagen. He returned to face almost certain death.
What more example of bravery can there be than these two shining ones.
Furthermore, there is the apocryphal example of Colonel Francis Adekunle Fajuyi who chose to die with the Head of State, rather than abandon his guest, which he was at liberty to do. I am hard pressed to believe that if it was vice versa, Ironsi would have done the same for Fajuyi, but then again, I may be wrong.
I admired Colonel Chukwuemeka Odumegwu Ojukwu for his guts and stubborn determination during the events leading up to and during the civil war, but I was disappointed that he fled Biafra when the end came. I wish he remained.
I also admired the Right Honorable Nnamdi Azikiwe, but Chief Obafemi Awolowo would NEVER have abandoned his people as Azikiwe did when he defected to the federal side during the civil war.
Awolowo was in prison because of his people and he could have been released had he compromised his beliefs but he stoutly refused. That is courage not cowardice.
I have been in direct communication with General Yakubu Gowon whom I admire but he did not return to Nigeria after he was accused of being behind the Dimka coup.
All things considered, Fajuyi, Obasanjo and Idiagbon are probably the bravest Nigerians ever. They are (were in the cases of Fajuyi and Idiagbon) certainly braver than Murtala Ramat Mohammed, who was safely in London waiting for Joe Garba and co to topple Gowon.
Even with the sullying of his name as a Quisling in the pages of history, it is on record that of all the first republic politicians that were killed in the January 1966 coup, only Samuel Ladoke Akintola, the Premier of the Western Region, put up a fight. He had a rifle and exchanged gunfire with Captain Emmanuel Nwobosi and his men. Akintola, a civilian, injured the trained soldiers and was only killed when his ammunition finished. And even at that he did not cry or beg!
Ndi'Igbo may do well to remember how Wole Soyinka, at great risk to himself, traveled to Enugu during the height of the civil war crisis to persuade Ojukwu against secession. Soyinka had nothing to gain. He did what he did as a humanitarian in support of the Igbos, an act for which he was arrested by the Gowon led Federal Military Government and thrown in jail for 26 months, 22 of which he spent in solitary confinement.
These facts of history prove that the stereotype of Yorubas as cowards is false. Every ethnicity has cowards and brave men. As we celebrate #BiafraAt50, I hope the Yoruba and Igbo can find common ground and unite as Southern Nigeria's two main ethnic nationalities otherwise the South will continue to be politically disadvantaged even when it is the most educationally advantaged part of Nigeria.
It is true that the Igbo are marginalized in Nigeria, however, I am of the opinion that a lot of the blame for this can be laid at Ndi'Igbo's doorstep.
In my opinion, and remember this is an opinion not a fact, the major undoing of Ndi'Igbo is their misunderstanding of the term strength.
Ndi'Igbo erroneously believe all strength is physical. They do not seem to realize that strength is your ability to assert your will on earth and that that ability may not always be physical. The proverb-discretion is the better part of valor-is not understood by the Igbo. They tend to be reactionary and consider pausing to study a situation before you respond (not react) as cowardice. One or two of them may get it, but as a race in general they do not.
They do not consider diplomacy as a first step. To them it is weakness and makes you an efulefu! If they have an enemy, they are not able to suppress their emotions and work with those they do not like. They must make their hostility obvious to the person they do not like and being aware of the dislike, the person is armed against them. In an organization, others may be sublime and discrete in their scheming, but the Igbo are more likely to be obvious and in your face about theirs and end up causing unity amongst their enemies in plotting their downfall.
As a general rule, Ndi'Igbo have very little humility and are very proud individually though there are few exceptions and I must single out my friend Emeka Maduewesi as one of those exceptions. An epitome of a gentleman! Another example would be Uche Chuta. May God throw up leaders like Uche in Igboland!&
For example Since 2010, my white beard has been my trademark. In fact Punch newspapers refers to me as 'the white bearded Omokri'. Yesterday (May 30th), my grandfather called me and asked me to shave it off because he does not like it. That same day, I obeyed him. I obey my grandfather at 43 the same way I obeyed him at 3. I am very successful today and I trace my success to the upbringing and prayers I got from my father and grandfather. No money ritual is as effective as a prayer and blessing from your fathers. I may be wrong, but I am not sure that a father or grandfather can have this type of influence on an adult financially and socially successful male in Igbo land. What I did may even be construed as weakness.
In my opinion, Ndi'Igbo are also individually more intelligent than their neighbors (I call it as I see it) but they hardly use their intelligence to unite and have one leader, one goal and one destiny. Because of this, even though they are more intelligent, they are almost always doomed to serve those that are wiser than them because wisdom is superior to intelligence.
The Igbo also appear to value leaders because of the leader's personal attainments in life and so money gives you more leadership credentials than wisdom or age. They forget that a rich man may have more clothes than an elder but cannot have more rags than him. They overestimate the power of money and underestimate the power of wisdom.
If the Igbo can learn humility and practice diplomacy and discipline themselves to have one leader that they listen to in good and bad times not because he is always right but because he is their leader, their marginalization will end and their dominance will begin.
These are merely my opinions which may be wrong.
Now that I have touched on Ndi'Igbo, perhaps I may also touch on the South in general.
There are four things that the South has to understand about the North.
One, there is no such thing as Hausa Fulani. It is a myth. There is Hausa and there is Fulani.
The second thing is that the Fulani are not our enemies. They are our rivals for power. Once we make this paradigm shift, our attitudes to seeking political power will change.
The third thing is that the Northern elite are experts at brinkmanship.
A perfect example is the recent ranting by the chairman of the Northern Elders Forum, the cantankerous Ango Abdullahi, who says that the North is prepared to split from Nigeria.
When at Chief EK Clark's 90th birthday in Abuja, Ango Abdullahi said "I come from Kaduna State, the population according to the 2006 census puts us at 6.3 million. And if you look at the resources that come from the so called federation account to Kaduna, it is one quarter of what Delta gets", what Nigerians should understand is that he was only playing the game of brinksmanship.
Kaduna contributes only 0.1% of the funds that enter the Federation Account and gets 1.4% of the monies that leave the Federation Account.
Who should complain between Kaduna and Delta?
The fourth and final thing is that too many Southerners are filled with hostility for the Hausa people. Unbeknownst to but a few of us down South, there are very few actual Hausa people in the North.
Hausa is more of a language than a people. Most of those we in the South label 'Hausa' in the North are a motley crew of various minority ethnic groups who are bound together by a common lingua franca-Hausa.
For decades before Independence these minority groups had been dominated by the Fulani and when Independence came they thought that the more exposed Southerners would come and hand them a hand of fellowship and deliver them from their oppressors but to their shock we greeted them with hostility and sometimes open hatred and a wise sage like Sardauna Ahmadu Bello opened up his hands to them through his policy of One North and empowered Northern minorities like Sir Abubakar Tafawa Balewa, Sunday Awoniyi and co.
Who knows, he may have done the same with the South and created a truly 'One Nigeria', if his life had not been tragically cut short in the coup mistakenly called Nzeogwu coup but which was actually masterminded by Emmanuel Ifeajuna with Nzeogwu being slightly more than a pawn in the game.
Ahmadu Bello was not a tribalistic leader. But he was a regional leader. He was suspicious of Southerners in general and he had something akin to disdain and maybe even contempt for Ndi'Igbo. It is an inconvenient truth that cannot be denied. Even his hardcore followers cannot deny this. He is caught on video articulating this view and these videos are now on YouTube.
Some of Sir Ahmadu Bello's successors have built upon the foundations he laid and have matured to be great patriots.
For instance, despite what the media has written about him to exaggerate his faults, the fact remains that former President Ibrahim Badamasi Babangida is one of the most patriotic Nigerians alive. Only President Olusegun Obasanjo can be said to be more patriotic than General Babangida in contemporary Nigerian history.
How do I mean? Consider this; In 1998 after Abacha died and Babangida's protege, General Abdulsalami Abubakar became head of state, President Babangida engineered the shift of political power from the North to the Southwest and specifically to President Olusegun Obasanjo.
For those who think that he had to do this let me ask you a question: What would have happened if the 1999 Presidential election had been thrown open to all and sundry, and not just restricted to the Southwest, and a Northerner like Atiku Abubakar or some other credible Northerner had won?
Would the Southwest have seceded? Would there have been war in 1999? Would Nigeria have gone the way of Rwanda? No, no, no!
There would have been a great discontent in the Southwest, but as long as the results were free and fair, there would have been little the Southwest could have done to change the situation.
Now let me ask a hypothetical question: Placed in that same situation, with Igbo dominance in the military and in government, would an Igbo leader have ceded power to the Yorubas to compensate them for an event like June 12 knowing that even if he did not there was little they could do by way of taking the power from him?
Even an Igbo man would agree with me that this is very unlikely.
I do not need to ask the question of whether or not a Yoruba man would do this because General Olusegun Obasanjo had already done it in 1979.
It is this statesmanly humility, (having the power to do something that would favour yours and your people's cause, yet having the conscience and discipline not to do it because it is against the principles of natural justice), that Ndi'Igbo lack in sufficient quantity at their leadership levels.
The above reason is why power continues to elude them. It is more than physical. It is spiritual. As James 4:10 says "Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up."
This humility is ingrained into Yoruba and Northern youths from infancy. In the North, youths squat to greet their fathers and their male elders. In the Southwest, children are taught to prostrate for their elders as a form of greeting. Banky W, is an international star but when he met Dele Momodu, he prostrated before him. Long before him, Sir Shina Peters did that to King Sunny Ade. I doubt that an Igbo man can even muster enough humility to prostrate before his own father how much more an elder! He would consider that as foolishness.
And there is nothing unGodly about this. It is not idolatrous. Many Igbos like to claim Jewish ancestry. Maybe they are right maybe they are not. But Abraham is the father of the Jewish nation. In Genesis 18:2 the Bible records that "Abraham looked up and saw three men standing nearby. When he saw them, he hurried from the entrance of his tent to meet them and bowed low to the ground."
Look at that "bowed low to the ground". Abraham prostrated!
That act of humility does not take anything from you. But it gives everything to you. You see, a man's greatest pleasure and need is not money or sex. It is to feel important. It is to be respected.
Both religion and science support this position. In Genesis 1:28 God gave man a charge and said "Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion".
It is God Himself that put the desire in man to want to dominate, to want to be respected.
According to Sigmund Freud, man is dominated by two urges, the sex urge and the urge to be important. This goes back to Genesis 1:28 'be fruitful' and 'have dominion'.
Women by and large influence men through the first urge which Freud named 'Eros'. Men influence other men through another part of the male personality that Freud called ego.
Because every man has an ego (the only difference is in size) it is very difficult, if not impossible to influence another man without massaging his ego. Refusal to do so can only end in two ways:
Conflict: which arises when two egos collide and one refuses to bow to the other, or
Frustration: which arises when one person refuses to work on the ego of a man who has power over him.
And let me say that no one can have power over you except he was given that power by God which is why Romans 13:1 says "there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.

http://www.statereporters.com/2017/06/03/igbo-can-learn-yoruba-fulani-power-reno-omokri/

Please can somebody tall this loafer that Biafran issue or agitation does not predicate on the power to govern the cesspit called Nigeria. It is about compatibility or lack thereof.
Re: What The Igbo Can Learn From The Yoruba And Fulani About Power By Reno Omokri by pazienza(m): 5:43pm On Jun 04, 2017
Lt Walbe:
As far as I am concerned it was a lie(Yoruba
publications). We arrested him as we arrested
Ironsi. We suspected him of being party to the
January coup. You remember the Battle Group
Course which was held at Abeokuta . . . Fajuyi was
Commander of the Battle Group course. He ran the
course. All those who took part in the January
coup were those who had taken part in that
course. It gave us the impression that the Battle
Course was arranged for the January Coup, so he
had to suffer it too . I am sorry about that but that
is the nature of the life of the military man

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Re: What The Igbo Can Learn From The Yoruba And Fulani About Power By Reno Omokri by pazienza(m): 5:45pm On Jun 04, 2017
Now we have heard from the man on ground who was rumoured to have killed Ironsi and Fajuyi, on why Fajuyi was marked for death.

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Re: What The Igbo Can Learn From The Yoruba And Fulani About Power By Reno Omokri by agaba77: 5:57pm On Jun 04, 2017
Non igbo nigerians simply do not understand the fundamental igbo psyche, this is the reasons they keep advising ndigbo on how to play politics. Unlike most human beigns on this planet, igbo people do no like politics in all its ramimifications. Igbo mindest is diametrically opposed to politics and polititicking.
Politics requires the ability to lie and deceive constantly, it requires the ability to be two faced and treacherous. Governement requires an individual to be under a leader. Igbo enwe Eze is a common refrain.

Igbo believe in self government and we are republicans in nature. The less government the better. We do not want to learn how to be better politicians, rather we want government to get out of the way so we can pursue our God given talents. This is the fundeamental difference
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Re: What The Igbo Can Learn From The Yoruba And Fulani About Power By Reno Omokri by DerideGull(m): 5:59pm On Jun 04, 2017
savage76:

You mean Fajuyi was part of the 1966 coup??poor student of knowledge.

Please read and get factual facts. Lt Col Francis Fajuiyi led the battle course that produced the coup leaders of Jan. 15, 1966. Anybody who has stepped onto a parade ground knows very well that in coup options are not given to the targets. The Lt. Col Fajuiyi crap was the idiotic propaganda unleashed by western Nigeria regional publication of 1967. It was joke then and it still remains a joke today unless to the foolish gullible dumbass Nigerians. One poster has published an excerpt from Eligwu's Gowon Biography where Lt. Gadbang William Walbe who was one of the principal actors in government house in Ibadan categorically labeled the Yoruba's crap about Lt Col Francis Fajuiyi wanting to die with Ironsi as am imbecilic falsehood. In fact, Flt Lt. Andrew Nwankwo the bravest soldier during the arrest of Ironsi and Fajuiyi stated the same thing as did Lt. Walbe.
Re: What The Igbo Can Learn From The Yoruba And Fulani About Power By Reno Omokri by DerideGull(m): 6:01pm On Jun 04, 2017
savage76:

You mean Fajuyi was part of the 1966 coup??poor student of knowledge.

Please read and get factual facts. Lt Col Francis Fajuiyi led the battle group course that produced the coup leaders of Jan. 15, 1966. Anybody who has stepped onto a parade ground knows very well that in coup options are not given to the targets. The Lt. Col Fajuiyi crap was the idiotic propaganda unleashed by western Nigeria regional publication of 1967. It was a joke then and it still remains a joke today unless to the foolish gullible dumbass Nigerians. One poster has published an excerpt from Eligwu's Gowon Biography where Lt. Gadbang William Walbe who was one of the principal actors in government house in Ibadan categorically labeled the Yoruba's crap about Lt Col Francis Fajuiyi wanting to die with Ironsi as am imbecilic falsehood. In fact, Flt Lt. Andrew Nwankwo the bravest soldier during the arrest of Ironsi and Fajuiyi stated the same thing as Lt. Walbe did.
Re: What The Igbo Can Learn From The Yoruba And Fulani About Power By Reno Omokri by pazienza(m): 6:01pm On Jun 04, 2017
Isawa Elaigwu: On 29th July, Lt Walbe and Major
Danjuma were in effective contact at the State
House after the change of guards. It was then that
both officers walked up to Ironsi, saluted, and
brought both Ironsi and Fajuyi downstairs. they
were handed over to Lt Walbe(by Major Danjuma)
to take charge. Lt Walbe and his troops took the
two men to an area of bush at Ibadan where they
subjected Ironsi to questions about the January
coup and the Northern leaders and officers who
died then. From the accounts of those who were
there, Ironsi played the part of a very good soldier.
Contrary to many publications suggesting that he
made confessions, there seem to be no evidence of
such confessions.
Similarly there was no evidence that Fajuyi was
killed because he interceded for his host or that he
refused to 'abandon his guest,' as reported by
some publications. He was reported to have been
very scared, and had been one of those marked
down for elimination. By the time Major Akahan
phoned Gowon in Lagos and received instructions
to ensure that nothing happened to Ironsi, it was
late. Even Major Akahan and Major Danjuma(then
at Ibadan) had lost control over their boys.

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Re: What The Igbo Can Learn From The Yoruba And Fulani About Power By Reno Omokri by pazienza(m): 6:18pm On Jun 04, 2017
Why was it expedient for the Yorubas( Lagos-Ibadan) to concoct the falsehood of Fajuyi being a martyr who died for Ironsi?

I had reasoned this, and factored all the variables into the equation, I came to two realizations:

1. It was a needed lie, if the propaganda of Igbo coup must survive.
The Lagos-Ibadan press were already on the forefront of that propaganda, the acceptance of the fact that Fajuyi did play a role in the coup by mentoring and advising Nzeogwu and co on how to go about the coup, would put a hole on their Igbo coup balloon.
They needed a cover up.

2. With the new formed Awolowo-Gowon alliance, accepting that the Northern coup plotters killed a Yoruba governor in Yorubaland would make them appear silly and naive, it was better to hype the killing of Akintola by Nzeogwu and co, and blame it on the Igbo, that way, it provides them with a perfect justification for teaming up with Gowon.
Fajuyi real story would rock their boat, they needed a lie.

And so the lie was passed from generation to generation, using the control of the Nigerian press, until the Internet happened, and boom! The lie have been bursted! shocked

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Re: What The Igbo Can Learn From The Yoruba And Fulani About Power By Reno Omokri by pazienza(m): 6:42pm On Jun 04, 2017
Reno omokri article is quite verbose and full of many propaganda that had been repeated often that they started taking the form of the truth.

I would pick them one by one when I have time and burst them.

The mods should take this topic to the front page. We would need as many Yoruba and Nigerian audience as we can get for a lively hot discussion.

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Re: What The Igbo Can Learn From The Yoruba And Fulani About Power By Reno Omokri by pazienza(m): 7:03pm On Jun 04, 2017
[b][Awolowo was in prison because of his people and he could have been released had he compromised his beliefs but he stoutly refused. That is courage not cowardice./b]

Again, this is yet another Lagos-Ibadan propaganda.

Awolowo was not in prison because of his people.
He was in prison because he was found guilty of misappropriation of funds and treasonable felony and was duely and rightly jailed.

Awolowo was not the only corrupt politician then, almost all of them were corrupt, because it was almost impossible to fund the party activities without dipping hands into the region fund.

It was Awo greed and lust for power that made him
Alienate Akintola, remember that Awo and Akintola wives were also fighting over the sole distributorship of coca cola grin. Such greed.
Awolowo couldn't manage power, Akintola greed also made him to seek for Saraduna and Balewa help in emasculating Awolowo.

The political naivety and immaturity of Awolowo and Akintola led to political turmoil in the West, setting the stage for the coup.

On the contrast, Zik managed power better in
the East, Never was there any struggle for power with Okpara. The row with Eyo ita was diplomatically resolved.
The East was the most politically stable and mature region before the coup.

So, Reno or whatever he calls himself should better go and check his mental status. It is Awolowo and the West who should learn from the East, not the other way round.

Lest I forget. Awolowo also left his people by taking his own life when he maneuvered himself into a political cul de sac at the hands of IBB.
Ojukwu by contrast, stayed alive to bring hope to his people, after having battled for 3years.

Saddam was caught running in his hole. He left when it was too late. Ghadaffi was also caught in a tunnel, he was also running, but he left it too late.

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Re: What The Igbo Can Learn From The Yoruba And Fulani About Power By Reno Omokri by pazienza(m): 7:12pm On Jun 04, 2017
And even at that he did not cry or beg!
Ndi'Igbo may do well to remember how Wole Soyinka, at great risk to himself, traveled to Enugu during the height of the civil war crisis to persuade Ojukwu against secession. Soyinka had nothing to gain. He did what he did as a humanitarian in support of the Igbos, an act for which he was arrested by the Gowon led Federal Military Government and thrown in jail for 26 months, 22 of which he spent in solitary confinement.


How is this bravery? shocked

Rather than go and tell Gowon and his Awolowo brother who were promoting starvation policy in Biafra to return their soldiers to Lagos and be comfortable with their Arewa-Oduanistani republic, Soyinka decided to come to Biafra to persuade Biafrans to stop fighting and accept Gowon and Awolowo tyranny, and when even the likes of Okigbo and Achebe turned him and his request away, he was arrested by Gowon who suspected his movements when he returned to Nigeria.

Soyinka didn't come to Biafra to support Biafrans, he came to persuade Biafrans to accept Gowon and Awolowo tyranny without puting up a fight.

How exactly does that translate to helping Biafrans or bravery?

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Re: What The Igbo Can Learn From The Yoruba And Fulani About Power By Reno Omokri by pazienza(m): 7:25pm On Jun 04, 2017
Ndi'Igbo erroneously believe all strength is physical. They do not seem to realize that strength is your ability to assert your will on earth and that that ability may not always be physical. The proverb-discretion is the better part of valor-is not understood by the Igbo. They tend to be reactionary and consider pausing to study a situation before you respond (not react) as cowardice. One or two of them may get it, but as a race in general they do not.
They do not consider diplomacy as a first step



This again is silly coming from Omokri.

Omokri is attempting to teach diplomacy to a people who had evolved a complex form of mini republics ran on democracy, before the whites set foot on Africa.
A people who had mastered the delicate act of peaceful resolution of conflicts with each other through diplomacy, so much that wars were not many and they were able to live in relatively peace and became densely populated in a relatively small land mass.

This man posits that such a people should learn diplomacy from a people who couldn't live in peace with each other, who were fighting many precolonial battles termed Kiriji wars amongst themselves. A people who lack of diplomacy led political war between Awolowo and Akintola factions which set their region on fire in independent Nigeria. A people whose lack of diplomacy led to the Midwest secession from the Western region through a democratic referendum.

Omokri needs mental examination.

Has he heard of Aburi accord before? Was that not Ojukwu attempt at diplomacy which Gowon reneged on.

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Re: What The Igbo Can Learn From The Yoruba And Fulani About Power By Reno Omokri by Kemperor: 7:32pm On Jun 04, 2017
Afonjas are cowards.... Full stop .
Re: What The Igbo Can Learn From The Yoruba And Fulani About Power By Reno Omokri by pazienza(m): 7:34pm On Jun 04, 2017
As a general rule, Ndi'Igbo have very little humility and are very proud individually though there are few exceptions and I must single out my friend Emeka Maduewesi as one of those exceptions. An epitome of a gentleman! Another example would be Uche Chuta. May God throw up leaders like Uche in Igboland!

It's obvious this man is roaming. I can't believe some Igbos call this man their friend, look at him playing his divide and conquer rule by singling out his so called Igbo friends out from rebuke, while he castigates the entire Igbo race.

What humility does this man
Speak of? Igbos are proud? What exactly is that supposed to mean?

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