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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by edoyad(m): 7:01pm On Jun 04, 2017
Fidha254:

Yet Kenya has better education,better healthcare, better internet connectivity, better access to .... In short higher HDI

Kenya has better education but I've never heard of any Kenyan scholar or academic winning any international awards. Do I need to mention award winning Nigerians academics ?

You have better internet but you're still here on a Nigerian website based here in Nigeria. I don't think I have ever been on or seen a Kenyan site before.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:04pm On Jun 04, 2017
Jay254:


Hahahah this guys love urgly structures, the saddest part is that they are so used to them that they can't notice...

They have the worst Maintainance culture.

They would never notice considering the things Arinze keeps posting and thinks they cool.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:05pm On Jun 04, 2017
edoyad:


Kenya has better education but I've never heard of any Kenyan scholar or academic winning any international awards. Do I need to mention award winning Nigerians academics ?

You have better internet but you're still here on a Nigerian website based here in Nigeria. I don't think I have ever been on or seen a Kenyan site before.

grin grin grin grin grin grin grin.............. leave them, they're always invited.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:08pm On Jun 04, 2017
Kenya Real Estate. I hope Nigerians can learn aesthetics and stop being embarrassing

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:10pm On Jun 04, 2017
Kenya

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 7:11pm On Jun 04, 2017
Nowenuse:


Haha cheesy you want to learn swahili because of Alikiba?. Funny.

As for me, here are my Tanzanian crush artistes
Butera knowless, Rosa ree n their mistress Vanessa mdee smiley.
Check out these musics by Butera knowless n Rosa ree. I think Rosa ree is currently the best female rapper in Africa right now. She is so cool!
Most Tanzanian artistes look very beautiful and stylish just like Nigerians. I really wonder why Kenyans dont just fit in.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbhVk1_TWTs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOrhOW03MpM

Yaaah, hoo i could learn swahili cos of Alikiba (winks) wink.
Just kidding tho, i think i just love the flavour of the language when sung by Tanzanians.

~~~dang, i know Rosa ree, she is such a great rapper. N i just checked out the other lady, damn i love her music too. It seems like you watch Trace Mziki just like me?

Well, i kind of agree, Tanzanians seem very stylish compared to Kenyans buh in terms of looks, i can't really say, buh seems like Tanzanians look prettier, though i have not come across many Kenyan artistes so i cannot finalize my judgement.

Here is another Tanzanian artiste i admire so much. He killed this song with Mr eazi.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRO08vwMuPs
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jay254(m): 7:17pm On Jun 04, 2017
freshest4live:

Kenya does not have better education than Nigeria, how many of your schools are in Africa's top 100?
What are the quality of the students and how many African renowned figures (at least) have your universities produced compared to Nigeria.

Literacy rate in Africa Kenya ranks number 4 while Nigeria was number 21.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.africlandpost.com/ranking-african-countries-literacy-rate-zimbabwe-1/&ved=0ahUKEwjIv6ej46TUAhVLDMAKHS3sBX4QFggeMAE&usg=AFQjCNFnCATJwfRt9QruljxUIuVlkcgj2g&sig2=m77Q9VkWG9IQpFq5HgWbkw

Top University in Africa.. Top 100


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.4icu.org/top-universities-africa/&ved=0ahUKEwiOivyG5KTUAhUpKcAKHfhuD7wQFggwMAM&usg=AFQjCNEInhWCmjts6AneF6Yo78DJdfoTng&sig2=RvXp1e-3cdOMOB0CkPHj3g
Nigeria has 11 while Kenya has 7... Nairobi always ranks ahead of Ibadan.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 7:17pm On Jun 04, 2017
Fidha254:
Actually the biggest project in Kenya would be the Lapsset project... Price tag $30 billion

Never heard of this one. What is it about pls
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jay254(m): 7:20pm On Jun 04, 2017
TayserMahiri:


They would never notice considering the things Arinze keeps posting and thinks they cool.

Hahah Don't kill that guys ego, he does it with passion.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 7:20pm On Jun 04, 2017
iblawi:


It's not new that you people are foolish.

How many of those old locomotives were used for construction and how many are currently running?

The other idiot was claiming "came" should be used in a statement that stated clearly what was coming in September


This is the problem when you stay too long in slums.


You should know how unpalatable your foolishness is before you call people foolish. You obviously know nothing about what you argue over. You keep on arguing and arguing unnecessarily insulting people yet you never post any proof for what you say - just going around in circles and hurling childish insults. Cool down and make sense. First you said you have trains going at 250kph in Nigeria (lol! how absurd) and insulted everyone who didn't agree. Now it's been established that you don't have those kind of trains in Nigeria - so who's the fool now? The people you insulted for not agreeing who later came out right or you who insulted people over it yet you were wrong? So far you haven't proved that there are trains in Nigeria going at the speeds you mention (100kph - 150kph) yet you insult people as fools for not agreeing. Once it'll be established that you're wrong, are you going to accept you're the fool? Let's wait and see.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jay254(m): 7:21pm On Jun 04, 2017
TayserMahiri:
Kenya Real Estate. I hope Nigerians can learn aesthetics and stop being embarrassing
Hizi zimeweza

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 7:21pm On Jun 04, 2017
freshest4live:
The Nigerian economy is widely considered to be a mono-economy with an excessive dependence on revenue from the exploitation of hydrocarbon resources. It has been severely impacted by the recent global decline in the price of crude oil. This has caused the current administration to adopt more decisive policies to achieve a much-needed expansion of the economy. The 2016 budget has an increased focus on capital expenditure, particularly in the areas of infrastructure works, power and housing.
There is significant interest in the development of Nigeria's transportation networks including road, rail, airports and sea ports. A deep sea port with railway project connecting Calabar with Port Harcourt and Onne Deep Sea Port, estimated to cost US$3.5 billion, is currently being constructed. [/b]The recently commissioned Abuja-Kaduna rail line is one of the first standard gauge railway modernisation projects undertaken in Nigeria while the Lagos State light rail project is expected to commence operations soon. The Lagos-Ibadan expressway, one of the largest road networks in Africa, the oldest expressway and busiest inter-state route in Nigeria, is also undergoing extensive rehabilitation.
The power sector, which was privatised in 2013, continues to attract phenomenal interest from the private sector despite perceived challenges. The private sector has also shown an increased appetite for investment in real estate. Recent projects, including those listed below are all being developed through public private partnerships (PPPs). The continuing expansion of Nigeria's middle class has made investments in condominiums and shopping malls a popular choice for private capital.
In the Medium Term Expenditure Framework 2016–2018, the Government listed the following projects for implementation:
Mambila Hydro Electric Power Project (estimated to cost US$4.8 billion), which will deliver circa 3,000 MW of electricity to the National Grid.
Railway modernisation coastal project covering Calabar to Port Harcourt and Onne Deep Sea Port (estimated to cost US$3.5 billion).
The Federal Capital Territory's Mass Rail Transit Project (estimated to cost US$1.6 billion).
The Lagos to Kano Rail Modernisation Project (of which the Lagos to Ibadan segment will be double track) (estimated to cost US$1.3 billion).
The second Lagos to Kano Rail Modernisation Project (Kano to Kaduna segment will be double track) (estimated to cost US$1.1 billion).
Major projects
Recent infrastructure and construction projects in Nigeria include:
The Abuja-Kaduna Railway Project.
The Novare Lekki Mall.
Abuja Centenary City, Abuja.
Eko Atlantic City, Lagos.
World Trade Centre, Abuja.
Lekki Free Trade Zone, Lagos.
Abuja Millennium Tower.
The second Niger Bridge concession, in Anambra and Delta States.
Lagos State Light Rail.
The Azura-Edo 500 MW independent power project.

Woow, u see, these are the reasons why i have hope for Nigeria.
Ongoing projects in Nigeria definitely should be more than $50 billion.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 7:25pm On Jun 04, 2017
iblawi:


Haven't you seen the pics of what you called city? Compare the size to what we call a city?

Only Egypt is trying to build something similar in Africa.

Which one is Egypt builiding? ~~ Can u please enlighten me on it?~~
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 7:28pm On Jun 04, 2017
edoyad:


Kenya has better education but I've never heard of any Kenyan scholar or academic winning any international awards. Do I need to mention award winning Nigerians academics ?

You have better internet but you're still here on a Nigerian website based here in Nigeria. I don't think I have ever been on or seen a Kenyan site before.

I don't hear of Nigerians winning any either. I don't expect you to be updated of everything going on in my country just like I don't give much attention to yours.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:31pm On Jun 04, 2017
genieluv:


Which one is Egypt builiding? ~~ Can u please enlighten me on it?~~

Egypt want to move their capital city away from Cairo........
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 7:32pm On Jun 04, 2017
arinzeejikonye:



That's nice,



Nonetheless, Nigeria is still ahead of you

Lol, that was not just nice buddy. That was an ass whooping on your side. Lol. That crib was clearly millenia ahead of those BC Roman Empire concrete jungles you're posting. Here's more architecture from Kenya.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 7:34pm On Jun 04, 2017
iblawi:


Is this maintenance culture?

I wonder why you keep posting photos of salvage carriages no longer in use in Kenya in comparison to your newest trains. lol. It is a compliment on our side and insult on your side if you ask me

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 7:35pm On Jun 04, 2017
shervydman:

see another MUMU in the making........... grin grin grin grin grin
MUMU (whatever that means) for speaking the truth.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 7:37pm On Jun 04, 2017
Marcelo290:
I was making a study and I discovered that the type of capitalism practised in Nigeria and some other capitalist countries in Africa does not encourage development. Taking Dangote and his establishments in Nigeria as a case study, mostly in the area of cement production, I think he is enjoying too much monopoly which is not good for a developing country.

The funny thing is that he has the backing of the government, so who the government is for who then can be against? When there is monopoly of goods in a market, the owner of the means of production may increase the price any time he wishes, and since there are no alternates, the whole country gets affected, there was a particular scenario where one big business man imported cements to come sell, it posed a big challenge to Dangote, what did Dangote and his groups do? he reduced the price of his cement then to about #950 just to give the man a run for his money, the man in other to avoid running on a loss, pleaded with Dangote for him to buy his own from him for almost his cost price.

In my own point of view, monopoly kills competition, and competition kills development, a big country like Nigeria needs to be diversified and not allowing one person dominate the whole country, that's why when inflation occurs, the whole country gets affected! Although dangote has created lots of job opportunities for Nigerians, I think his form of monopoly is doing us more harm than good in this country, I think we are getting just one person enriched, why others keep going down...

This is basically my own opinion, so Nigerians and all lovers of wisdom, can I get your take on this issue?

My fellow compatriot. As much as you are correct. I may have to still disagree with you on some points.
Overtime, Dangote has shown to be more business pasionate and expansion-oriented compared to his business contemporaries.
Dangote seems to think outside the box compared to the rest of the top Nigerian business people.

Just take a look at the refinery Dangote is building which will change Nigeria forever, are we also going to blame market monopoly due to government favouritsim for this great feat?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 7:37pm On Jun 04, 2017
shervydman:


Egypt want to move their capital city away from Cairo........

Whoaa, To where?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 7:41pm On Jun 04, 2017
freshest4live:

Well there is a topic on Bella Naija on how Dangote has single handedly made Nigeria an exporter of cement and has helped her stop import automatically, some as usual shared this opinion of yours, but this was a reply from a guy named ovadje, which l also agree with....


Ovadje says: March 2, 2017 at 2:24 am
@madman, repeating your madness does not make it any less insane...lol! Dangote Cements COMPETES in Nigeria with some of the World's BIGGEST cement companies - LaFarge, Holcim (which has now merged to become the World's biggest producer), the UK's Blue Circle (before it merged with LaFarge) Scancem, and Heidergerg. Some of these companies were in Nigeria since the 1950s/60s, but it was not until Dangote Cement entered the market did cement quality in Nigeria improved from the basic 32.5R to 42.5R and finally up to 52.5R (which only Dangote Cement produces in sub-Saharan Africa). Furthermore, Dangote has even left the "comfort" of homeland Nigeria to go compete against these same global giants (in addition to local firms) in many other countries across Africa. So, abegi quit hating and give CREDIT where duly earned!
https://www.google.de/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=/amp/s/www.bellanaija.com/2017/03/dangote-exports-400000-metric-tons-cement-produced-in-nigeria/amp/&ved=0ahUKEwiUm-v-uqTUAhXDFiwKHXisCb4QFghFMAo&usg=AFQjCNFEUuXgcaEoIEgU_qQHN2Dep-rQ7w!

Thank u for this point. At least we can all confirm it that Dangote has more ideas and thinks better than his business contemporaries in Nigeria.
He has a global vision, while most of his contemporaries are very much local-minded. That man is a blessing to Nigeria (regardless allegations of government favouritism).
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 7:42pm On Jun 04, 2017
freshest4live:

Kenya does not have better education than Nigeria, how many of your schools are in Africa's top 100?
What are the quality of the students and how many African renowned figures (at least) have your universities produced compared to Nigeria.

Universities in Africa.

Kenya

1 in top 10
4 in top 30
7 in top 100

Nigeria
0 in top 10
2 in top 30
10 in top 100

Be the Judge.

http://www.4icu.org/top-universities-africa/

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:42pm On Jun 04, 2017
genieluv:


Whoaa, To where?

to a completely new place.... just like we moved our capital city to Abuja in 1991.

it should be ready by 2022......and it will cost about $45b
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by iblawi(m): 7:42pm On Jun 04, 2017
genieluv:


Which one is Egypt builiding? ~~ Can u please enlighten me on it?~~

Egypt want to build a new capital city just like we moved from Lagos to Abuja. They also want to move their capital from Cairo to a new one.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:44pm On Jun 04, 2017
iblawi:


Egypt want to build a new capital city just like we moved from Lagos to Abuja. They also want to move their capital from Cairo to a new one.
confirm..........u're very current.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 7:46pm On Jun 04, 2017
genieluv:


Yaaah, hoo i could learn swahili cos of Alikiba (winks) wink.
Just kidding tho, i think i just love the flavour of the language when sung by Tanzanians.

~~~dang, i know Rosa ree, she is such a great rapper. N i just checked out the other lady, damn i love her music too. It seems like you watch Trace Mziki just like me?

Well, i kind of agree, Tanzanians seem very stylish compared to Kenyans buh in terms of looks, i can't really say, buh seems like Tanzanians look prettier, though i have not come across many Kenyan artistes so i cannot finalize my judgement.

Here is another Tanzanian artiste i admire so much. He killed this song with Mr eazi.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRO08vwMuPs

You can't tell people's style judging from video clips dear. Ask somebody who's been to both countries or better yet visit the countries and see for yourself. Remember those videos you're using to judge Tanzanians as stylish were actually done in SA and all the people in them other than the artist himself are South African.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:47pm On Jun 04, 2017
NairobiWalker:


Lol, that was not just nice buddy. That was an ass whooping on your side. Lol. That crib was clearly millenia ahead of those BC Roman Empire concrete jungles you're posting. Here's more architecture from Kenya.



I know you still don't believe it's Nigeria,
You now posting 3d images and renders
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 7:48pm On Jun 04, 2017
freshest4live:
Personally l think Dangote is just smarter, and not just because of the government. The guy you are talking about is lbeto. Ibeto could not compete favorably when obasanjo demanded we make use of local cement and banned imports, Dangote used this to his advantage and built more cement plant factories.
Now Dangote is building a refinery but 28 licenses were given for more than a decade now but no one came forth to build.
It is true that Dangote is close to the Government, but so are some other top business men and there is no evidence to support the claim that he has deprived anyone from competing with him. It's just that when you are successful in Africa, people must find something to say.
What l admire about him most is how he focused on Agriculture for a long time and saw opportunities in Agriculture when many were focused on oil. Now that he's into oil, he's doing it in grand style, making money but boosting the economy, if this is what it means to be a monopolist then l want to be just that.

Gbam. Chikena.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:49pm On Jun 04, 2017
TayserMahiri my bro welcome
How are you this day,
Now you are repeating those ish, if I do mine pls do not complain
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by fanficgirl(f): 7:49pm On Jun 04, 2017
This is an article about Bostwana though its from the end of last year.
http://m.mgafrica.com/article/2016-09-29-botswana-at-50-there-are-reasons-to-question-its-fragility
They have good governance and a working one but
20 percent of its economy (not even exports but economy) comes from diamonds, which is depreciating like oil.
They allow 50 percent of diamond companies ro be owned by the state..idk how successful this is since Nigeria does 60 percent for oil companies.
Botswana’s economic future lies in services, according to government. The financial services industry has grown impressively over the last decade.

But more can be done to diversify the economy and sustain development.

Worryingly, government has not yet resolved its increasingly severe water crisis, threatening urban and economic development in its capital Gaborone. The capital frequently experiences water and electricity ‘shedding’.

Its North-South Carrier water scheme has as not yet been connected to the Zambezi and, with the effects of climate change ever more obvious, water security is paramount for economic growth and stability.

Years of growth and development may come undone if water shortages persist, in particular in Gaborone and continue to affect economic production.

The country’s dependence on electricity from South Africa, a country that has struggled to supply sufficient power to its own grid over the past years is another cause for concern.

With the manner in which the South African government is handling its own energy production expansion, Botswana would be well advised to strive for energy independence.

A nonsensical and unaffordable investment by its larger neighbour in nuclear power production will see electricity prices skyrocket in future, and with its 50-70% dependence on SA power, Botswana can ill-afford to maintain this reliance.

Though the country has vast coal reserves that are largely untapped, building coal-fired power plants requires equally massive investment and decades worth of building, as the recent experiences in South Africa with the Kusile and Medupi power plants shows.

From an economic point of view, investing in fossil fuels no longer makes sense. Return on investment is questionable compared to quicker-and-cheaper-to-develop renewables.

More importantly – and here lies the crux for its economic diversification project – Botswana has made too little effort to invest in renewable energy at any large scale – it is one of the countries with the most sunshine globally – whilst contemplating forays into the dirty business of ‘fracking’ to grow its own energy independence.

The global drop in oil prices may have forced the Botswana government to shelve those plans for now, and have hopefully put them on the trajectory of renewables and a green economy, a direction the country seems ideally suited for.

In fact, it constitutes a serious growth potential sector for the economy, strengthening diversification and a move away from fossil fuels – its continued global use so clearly hurting the country and away from over-reliance on the extractive industry.

With the sunshine Botswana receives per annum, its vast territory and its central location, Botswana should strive to become an exporter of green energy.

Better yet, it offers Botswana an opportunity to continue its path of inspiration – a path taken by its founding father Sir Seretse Khama and continued by several Presidents since – and a strengthening of its developmental and progressive identity and strategic position.

President Ian Khama is after all green-minded and an inspirational conservationist who not too long ago made headlines after introducing a nation-wide hunting ban and dedicating army capacity to the protection of endangered species.

Herein lies a problem, however, exemplifying Botswana’s main challenge.

The hunting ban has brought the plight of the San people – or Bushmen – back to the foreground, highlighting again problems with the rule of law and treatment of minorities.

Pockets of San, who still live traditionally and survive by hunting and gathering, are no longer allowed to shoot animals for their survival. Miilitary-style conservation has led to allegations of excessive force and the trampling of human rights.



This is damaging for Botswana’s reputation and may impact important sectors of the economy that are sensitive to perception, such as tourism and investment. It also appears wholly unnecessary.

Is the vitality and depth of a democracy not expressed by how a democratic country treats its minorities? And how can it be so difficult to ensure rights and development – for those that want it as some traditional folks may not want anything to do with modernity – for small groups of a population too?

Minority rights do not have to stand in the way of sustained and inclusive development. They do not have to stand in the way of conservation. Several African solutions prove it can be done differently such as the Campfire project pioneered in Zimbabwe.

As to the San and hunting, the Botswana government may be considering a re-evaluation of its blanket ban to accommodate people living traditionally.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:50pm On Jun 04, 2017
Jay254:


Hahah Don't kill that guys ego, he does it with passion.

Ok. I will tone down. Arinze is a cool/honest guy

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:50pm On Jun 04, 2017
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