seniorkachion:


In the same category with Ronaldo.

How can you put him in the same category as Ronaldo or even Messi? He's in a class of his own. He may not score as many goals as the two of them but whenever he wanted to score, it was always a magic and beauty to behold. That guy is football made easy!

bareal:


How can you put him in the same category as Ronaldo or even Messi? He's in a class of his own. He may not score as many goals as the two of them but whenever he wanted to score, it was always a magic and beauty to behold. That guy is football made easy!

His era of dominance was very short.

Messi .. my second word for Amazing

9jakohai:
Messi: One world cup final.

Rinaldo: One world cup semi final.

No contest.

Except that you forgot that Ronaldo has been to 2 Euro finals and won 1 whereas Messi has been to 3 Copa America finals and lost all!

lodphil:
How is he overrated when he has more goals to match ratio and also more assists than Ronaldo in his carrier,even though his younger, and may probably outscore ronaldo b4 he retires.

Saying barca would ve been that dominant without messi's efforts is quite outrageous.
How many games does a national team play in a year compare to a club side such as Barcelona?

You're talking about goals to match ratio and more assists.

Talk to me when he scores 10 goals in the knockout stages of the UCL.

You forget most of Cristiano Ronaldo's goals has come in the last 10 years. Before then he was more of a playmaker than scorer (he scored only 5 goals in 31 games in Sporting senior team). He scored more goals in his last two seasons at Man U than throughout his first five seasons at the competitive stage.

All this while, Messi had been honing his playmaking and scoring ability in La Masia for 5 years since he is was 13.

And even in his debut he scored 1 goal in 9 games. A worse debut than Ronaldo.

Ronaldo matured at Man U. After moving through 3 clubs.

Messi matured at La Masia without moving from another club.

In the last 10 seasons when they both have broken through, CR7 GTM ratio is 0.96 vs LM10's 0.93. This is despite CR7 being older than LM10 and LM10 playing with better midfielders than CR7. I did not include CR7 International GTM stats where he beats LM10 again because LM10 plays a more central role in Argentina than in Barca.

As far as assists is concerned, with Barca's gameplay and LM10's free role, that is to be expected.

Your argument is illogical. National teams don't play that often so, they should have less coherence than a club side. Which means the Spanish team is less coherent than the Barcelona side. Still, they didn't need LM10 to win all the tournaments they participated in the same peak period as LM10 (2008-2012). Is it just coincidence or does it just expose LM10 as unnecessary to Barcelona's title winnings between 2009-2012?

You see why you LM10 fans should stop denying the obvious and stop overrating LM10?

-Lord

seniorkachion:


His era of dominance was very short.

Yet magical and unforgettable especially for those that know what beautiful football is all about

sneak3:
Ronaldo is a great footballer, on his day he is a world beater but mehn Messi has got to be to most talented footballer to have ever played the game of football.

Both are great but I will rather have Messi and the Brazilian Ronaldo anytime any day

no doubt you must be a very good player. Only good player knows extra ordinary features

Rapahel1116:
D guy fit de on drugs to say messi de overrated.... Omoh I shock as I see am....na dis kind tin de mk pesn enemy de fight for am....go tel even Madrid fan dis tin him go look u first ...if u still insist on the matter I swear dis Madrid fan go slap u....I dn see where e happen ....henry is overated na so one Chelsea fan come slap d small boy....lwkmd

Lol

some people no sabi ball @ all!!
any way make we leave am there

Oluwaremythe:

hey,when ur type talks ehn,I jst wonder why people kips burying facts and say suitable finz to dress their ideology...
who says ronaldo doesn't help d team,who says ronaldo doesn't dribble...he might av reached his peak now and reduces his level of playmaking...yh bt did yu check d statistics for dis years champions league?
yu claimed he's not a playmaker bt he's d second player with most assists after neymar,he's d highest goal scorer too,he's always d first,second or 3rd player with highest assist for madrid every year...
Ronaldo was a playmaker in his youthful days,one of d most skillful player ever..
32yrs no b childsplay,he can't run&dribble forever...scoring goals helps d team to succeed dan playmaking..goals decides matches.

The person that quote you is on point. Okay... Ronaldo is very hard-working. and lucky too

LordAdam16:


He is overrated by his fans.

Whether you accept it or not doesn't even bother me.

He is a legend, but most LM10 fans say he is the GOAT simply because he had a terrific 4 year spell with the best club team of the last two decades. That is being overrated.

You guys say he was carrying the team. Now that Xavi is no longer there, the team is struggling. Nai b say if Iniesta and Busquets comot, una no go dey top 3 for la liga.

That is what overrated means.

You guys downplay other players contributions and inflate LM10's contributions. When the fact is that LM10 didn't have to play for Barca to win those trophies, as the Spanish team won trophies with same style but without LM10.

Now, tell me how is it that you guys do not overrate him?

-Lord

guy you are a cr7 fans and stop saying messi is overrated, what will bale and hazard be?

LordAdam16:


U don't love CR7 guy.

You guys are the ones overrating Messi. If I gave a nickel every time I read a comment from LM10 fans overplaying Messi's achievements and gameplaying ability, I'd be broke for eternity.

I remember in his peak, when Barcelona didn't need to have a world-class goalkeeper, because of how good the team was. You guys did well to make a big deal of his achievements. But what you guys have been doing for the last 5 years is shameful, overrating what Messi does and his impact.

You can't keep calling a player better because of achievements he had 5 years ago, ignore his underachievements in recent time, then the worst part downplay the achievements of the dominant player of the last 5 years ago.

It is wrong on all fronts. That's overrating. Whether you like to hear it or not.

-Lord

Oga, messi prove himself every match. That's why it's easier to criticise if he had a bad game. The level he put himself is very high.

cr7 is actually from Nigeria!!

jellea:


Oga, messi prove himself every match. That's why it's easier to criticise if he had a bad game. The level he put himself is very high.

spot on my bro

Messi is not of this world. Ronaldo is the best in this world.

@ lord..
Guy you are just sentimental simple and short......you are a good analyst no doubt.
but saying messi is overrated is just another tactics by cr7 fans to belittle him

LordAdam16:


You're talking about goals to match ratio and more assists.

Talk to me when he scores 10 goals in the knockout stages of the UCL.

You forget most of Cristiano Ronaldo's goals has come in the last 10 years. Before then he was more of a playmaker than scorer (he scored only 5 goals in 31 games in Sporting senior team). He scored more goals in his last two seasons at Man U than throughout his first five seasons at the competitive stage.

All this while, Messi had been honing his playmaking and scoring ability in La Masia for 5 years since he is was 13.

And even in his debut he scored 1 goal in 9 games. A worse debut than Ronaldo.

Ronaldo matured at Man U. After moving through 3 clubs.

Messi matured at La Masia without moving from another club.

In the last 10 seasons when they both have broken through, CR7 GTM ratio is 0.96 vs LM10's 0.93. This is despite CR7 being older than LM10 and LM10 playing with better midfielders than CR7. I did not include CR7 International GTM stats where he beats LM10 again because LM10 plays a more central role in Argentina than in Barca.

As far as assists is concerned, with Barca's gameplay and LM10's free role, that is to be expected.

Your argument is illogical. National teams don't play that often so, they should have less coherence than a club side. Which means the Spanish team is less coherent than the Barcelona side. Still, they didn't need LM10 to win all the tournaments they participated in the same peak period as LM10 (2008-2012). Is it just coincidence or does it just expose LM10 as unnecessary to Barcelona's title winnings between 2009-2012?

You see why you LM10 fans should stop denying the obvious and stop overrating LM10?

-Lord

All you typed does not negate d fact that messi has a better GTM and also assists than Ronaldo even though he's younger and has always been a playmaker since he started playing for d senior team.

And when it comes to the Spanish team.Pls how many goals did Spain score during both the world cup and euro that they worn?,And also how many goals did barca need to carry all those laliga and champions league with a high scoring Madrid as their competitor.

Subtract all those messi goals and assists from the entire barca goals,and then tell me whether barca would ve been able to carry all those trophies with a high scoring club lyk Madrid as their competitor.
And if ur analysis is correct,it also means that Ronaldo is also useless to Madrid.Since all he does is position well and score goals,which
good scorers lyk Suarez and lewandoski can equally do.

And also wake me up when ronaldo scores 73goals in a season and also 91 goals in football calendar year.
Mark my words,Messi will have more goals and assists than ronaldo b4 he retires from football.

lodphil:
All you typed does not negate d fact that messi has a better GTM and also assists than Ronaldo even though he's younger and has always been a playmaker since he started playing for d senior team.

And when it comes to the Spanish team.Pls how many goals did Spain score during both the world cup and euro that they worn?,And also how many goals did barca need to carry all those laliga and champions league with a high scoring Madrid as their competitor.

Subtract all those messi goals and assists from the entire barca goals,and then tell me whether barca would ve been able to carry all those trophies with a high scoring club lyk Madrid as their competitor.
And if ur analysis is correct,it also means that Ronaldo is also useless to Madrid.Since all he does is position well and score goals,which good scorers lyk Suarez and lewandoski can equally do.

I wonder o, Spain that David Villa save with lone goal every game.

You people should understand the difference btw hard work and talent. Hardwork is always trying to meet up. But talent is evergreen

Ronaldo de lima, Ronaldinho, Zidane, Henry, Messi, Okocha, Kanu, Maradona.. etc.. You see these players. even if they were injured for 1 year.. it won't affect their abilities..

If Christiano wants to be the best.( he is always trying to prove that, which as benefited him and his team) he needs to show these things he does is natural. I don't know if you have ever seen his leg over, snake bike etc. a situation whereby only the leg moves.. wheras other parts of the body suppose to..just compare his skills to those footballers I listed above.

That Madrid team could have beat Juve without cr7, take for instance, the Portugal in euro final against France. Unlike Messi contribution to Barca in champions league finals. But I know cr7 will want to claim all the glory. Modrick is more important in that Madrid squad than anyone

I just de look wetin u de type since wan cry for u.....guy even ur enemy no try for u.....for u to say barca never needed messi means u don't know or dwatcg football....did u watch messi from 2008? Ronaldinho once said I might b d best player in d world BT not the best player in barca .....elif guacho can say DAT of messi who u b to say messi de overrated.... Guy in fact it a big fool oh.......see wetin u de talk?even Madrid fan go fit slap u if u talk dis shit....:'dis ur hate na from hell abeg carry am go there .....even wen xavi was around messi never stayed in the box...he still came deep a times to get d ball Nd dribble past many cones....u de say him de overrated.... If messi is overated ,na him b say football no exist in d real.world ....na dream u de dream .....na d most stupid insanely idiotic tin wey I dn hear since somebody tel me say u fit do sprite with water Nd sugar(

LordAdam16:


You're talking about goals to match ratio and more assists.

Talk to me when he scores 10 goals in the knockout stages of the UCL.

You forget most of Cristiano Ronaldo's goals has come in the last 10 years. Before then he was more of a playmaker than scorer (he scored only 5 goals in 31 games in Sporting senior team). He scored more goals in his last two seasons at Man U than throughout his first five seasons at the competitive stage.

All this while, Messi had been honing his playmaking and scoring ability in La Masia for 5 years since he is was 13.

And even in his debut he scored 1 goal in 9 games. A worse debut than Ronaldo.

Ronaldo matured at Man U. After moving through 3 clubs.

Messi matured at La Masia without moving from another club.

In the last 10 seasons when they both have broken through, CR7 GTM ratio is 0.96 vs LM10's 0.93. This is despite CR7 being older than LM10 and LM10 playing with better midfielders than CR7. I did not include CR7 International GTM stats where he beats LM10 again because LM10 plays a more central role in Argentina than in Barca.

As far as assists is concerned, with Barca's gameplay and LM10's free role, that is to be expected.

Your argument is illogical. National teams don't play that often so, they should have less coherence than a club side. Which means the Spanish team is less coherent than the Barcelona side. Still, they didn't need LM10 to win all the tournaments they participated in the same peak period as LM10 (2008-2012). Is it just coincidence or does it just expose LM10 as unnecessary to Barcelona's title winnings between 2009-2012?

You see why you LM10 fans should stop denying the obvious and stop overrating LM10?

-Lord

pacespot:
That Madrid team could have beat Juve without cr7, take for instance, the Portugal in euro final against France. Unlike Messi contribution to Barca in champions league finals. But I know cr7 will want to claim all the glory. Modrick is more important in that Madrid squad than anyone

In addition to Casemero, Cavarjan and Marcelo.They won the match yesterday..

Rapahel1116:
I just de look wetin u de type since wan cry for u.....guy even ur enemy no try for u.....for u to say barca never needed messi means u don't know or dwatcg football....did u watch messi from 2008? Ronaldinho once said I might b d best player in d world BT not the best player in barca .....elif guacho can say DAT of messi who u b to say messi de overrated.... Guy in fact it a big fool oh.......see wetin u de talk?even Madrid fan go fit slap u if u talk dis shit....:'dis ur hate na from hell abeg carry am go there .....even wen xavi was around messi never stayed in the box...he still came deep a times to get d ball Nd dribble past many cones....u de say him de overrated.... If messi is overated ,na him b say football no exist in d real.world ....na dream u de dream .....na d most stupid insanely idiotic tin wey I dn hear since somebody tel me say u fit do sprite with water Nd sugar(

The guy hatred just too much.

Lolx....I can't stop tinking of wat he just said....messi is overated .?....I sleep wake up....I still de tink am? Ask any pure Madrid fan wey know ball.....is messi overated ?...him go first tel up pesn....who's the highest gol scorer in clasico.?

Johnpaul09:
What of the two copa American finals against Chile? Messi lost to Germany in 2014 World Cup final, 2015 Copa America final and 2016 Confederated Copa America final. How could a talented footballer lose three finals in a row? Ronaldo lost Euro 2004 final and won 2016 final.

messi is unlucky, he his also surrounded with names not stars , they didn't stand for him when he needed them the most, take Portugal's triumph for example and see how they win the final without there talisman . that was what messy needed but couldn't get.

SirTee02:
messi is unlucky, he his also surrounded with names not stars , they didn't stand for him when he needed them the most, take Portugal's triumph for example and see how they win the final without there talisman . that was what messy needed but couldn't get.

you won't blame higuain and they are praising eder
had he score that goal now
this story for don end since 2014

teamsynergy:

so u agree messi also needs better players around him to flourish??. football is a team work thing not for lone wolves...

sure now, take Pele last World Cup win for example he was injured throughout, but still ended up winning the title With the help of garincha and is other team mate, and now Pele is known as the only player to ever win 3worldcup , had it mean his teammate were not there for him , the record would have not stand for years

lodphil:
All you typed does not negate d fact that messi has a better GTM and also assists than Ronaldo even though he's younger and has always been a playmaker since he started playing for d senior team.

And when it comes to the Spanish team.Pls how many goals did Spain score during both the world cup and euro that they worn?,And also how many goals did barca need to carry all those laliga and champions league with a high scoring Madrid as their competitor.

Subtract all those messi goals and assists from the entire barca goals,and then tell me whether barca would ve been able to carry all those trophies with a high scoring club lyk Madrid as their competitor.
And if ur analysis is correct,it also means that Ronaldo is also useless to Madrid.Since all he does is position well and score goals,which
good scorers lyk Suarez and lewandoski can equally do.

And also wake me up when ronaldo scores 73goals in a season and also 91 goals in football calendar year.
Mark my words,Messi will have more goals and assists than ronaldo b4 he retires from football.

How can you read all I type and still make that first sentence?

How body dey do u diz evening?

I gave you viable explanation and analysis and you still had the effrontery to talk about Messi having better GTA ratio and making a big deal about the assist.

Oga, have you been reading anything I typed? I said, you could replace Messi with any world class player in the 2009-2012 squad and they'll still win the trophies they did. And that world class player will win the Ballon D'ors Messi won.

And when you talk about the number of goals Spain scored, it just shows you're trying to argue for the sake of it. Not just to make points.

The number of goals Spain scored is irrelevant, even though they were butchering teams left and right. The fact is that they were outscoring every other team in the world and winning all the tournaments between 2008 and 2012 without the runs of anyone like Messi.

The point I'm trying to make is that Messi did not carry the Xavi Barcelona squad. He took advantage of an exceptional team like Ronaldo is currently doing. So you can't say Messi is better than CR7 by overrating his achievement. That is the point. If that is too complex for you to understand, then we should stop prolonging this discussion.

After all, the comparison hasn't ended. Both players still have at least 5 years in them, and a lot can happen in the next five years. But as it stands now, CR7 is the better player. In 2012, LM10 was the better player.

EOD!

Good night!

-Lord

branham890:
@ lord..
Guy you are just sentimental simple and short......you are a good analyst no doubt.
but saying messi is overrated is just another tactics by cr7 fans to belittle him

As if LM10 fans have not done worst.

All I'm saying is clear. Maybe it is comprehension that is you guys problem.

Meaning of overrate:

have a higher opinion of (someone or something) than is deserved.

Note the word in bold.

LM10 deserves to be on the list of football legends. He deserves to be compared to any great that played the game. But putting him miles ahead of any of the greats including CR7 is heresy and tantamount to overrating (having an higher opinion than is deserved).

If after this explanation you are still annoyed that I used the word overrate, then you can cry me a river and sob till you sleep.

You guys call CR7 penaldo, just another goal scorer, only scores against small teams and we CR7 fans bring out stats to shut you guys up. I bring out stats and explain my use of the word "overrate" and you guys can't get over it. Mk una go dick-ride Messi jare and pressure Valverde to make better signings.

No be when CR7 and the galacticos win another trophy, una go start dey complain like spoilt children.

Things don level now, same amount of Champions league and Ballon D'or leveling dey sure. We don manage una excuse for the last 5 years, I no one hear excuse again.

As CR7 said, all you critics can put your "guitar back into the case, AGAIN."

-Lord

branham890:



guy you are a cr7 fans and stop saying messi is overrated, what will bale and hazard be?

Have you ever heard the majority of Bale and Hazard fans overstepping their boundaries? Including Neymar fans?

The only fans who overrate their fave player are LM10 fans. And the double standard trash gat end.

Imagine someone here saying Messi dribbles better than Pele. You keep quiet. I say LM10 fans overrate LM10's achievements and you don 1 pull shirt. Letter una go dey talk about sentiments.

Ronaldo is about to win the 4th Ballon D'Or in 5 years and he just won 3 CLs in 4 years (and the first ever back to back), he is CL top scorer for 5 out of 5 years, and you actually have LM10 fans downplaying his achievements on this thread. If na LM10 do these things now, we no go hear word.

Make una go boil stone jor. Una no serious.

When you guys start giving honor to whom honor is due, stop downplaying others achievements, whilst simultaneously overplaying your fave player's achievement, then we can have a chat.

Until then, na how we won use tk lift Confederations Cup we dey look forward to now. No need for needless distractions.

-Lord

"It will take the world another 100years before thy can see another footballer like messi"..........
Messi from another planet
(Pele of Brazil, De Gazette de sporte, March 19th 2015)

LordAdam16:


Have you ever heard the majority of Bale and Hazard fans overstepping their boundaries? Including Neymar fans?

The only fans who overrate their fave player are LM10 fans. And the double standard trash gat end.

Imagine someone here saying Messi dribbles better than Pele. You keep quiet. I say LM10 fans overrate LM10's achievements and you don 1 pull shirt. Letter una go dey talk about sentiments.

Ronaldo is about to win the 4th Ballon D'Or in 5 years and he just won 3 CLs in 4 years (and the first ever back to back), he is CL top scorer for 5 out of 5 years, and you actually have LM10 fans downplaying his achievements on this thread. If na LM10 do these things now, we no go hear word.

Make una go boil stone jor. Una no serious.

When you guys start giving honor to whom honor is due, stop downplaying others achievements, whilst simultaneously overplaying your fave player's achievement, then we can have a chat.

Until then, na how we won use tk lift Confederations Cup we dey look forward to now. No need for needless distractions.

-Lord

and u think cr7 fans don't do that too

messi has raised the bar too high for himself that when he don't get to that high again it looks as if he has not performed!!!
cr7 is really trying to catch up with messi whether you like or not!!!

check through the net and 9 out of 10 would rank messi over cr7 is as simple as ABC!

LordAdam16:


As if LM10 fans have not done worst.

All I'm saying is clear. Maybe it is comprehension that is you guys problem.

Meaning of overrate:



Note the word in bold.

LM10 deserves to be on the list of football legends. He deserves to be compared to any great that played the game. But putting him miles ahead of any of the greats including CR7 is heresy and tantamount to overrating (having an higher opinion than is deserved).

If after this explanation you are still annoyed that I used the word overrate, then you can cry me a river and sob till you sleep.

You guys call CR7 penaldo, just another goal scorer, only scores against small teams and we CR7 fans bring out stats to shut you guys up. I bring out stats and explain my use of the word "overrate" and you guys can't get over it. Mk una go dick-ride Messi jare and pressure Valverde to make better signings.

No be when CR7 and the galacticos win another trophy, una go start dey complain like spoilt children.

Things don level now, same amount of Champions league and Ballon D'or leveling dey sure. We don manage una excuse for the last 5 years, I no one hear excuse again.

As CR7 said, all you critics can put your "guitar back into the case, AGAIN."

-Lord

we day argue ball don't talk about spoilt children!!!

as much as we have different choices in life same would apply to messi and cr7 comparison!!
I must not accept messi to be the best or cr7 every one is entitled to his own opinion

*end of argument*