nelszx:

The Ivorians played like they have never played together before well the Dutch paraded a near strong team on the night

nelszx:

The Ivorians played like they have never played together before well the Dutch paraded a near strong team on the night

maidaboi:
GBAM
komekn will not see this one because he is not in england

BascoVanVeli:

How can the Dutch second tier be the equivalent of league 2? U do too much hyping of England but wat have they won? Anyway I never said that he should be invited but I wouldn't be against it just like I'm not against Osimhen.

maidaboi:
is like he is an agent and has his players in england

adegwurulez:

This season, simmy Nwankwo, Fred Friday, Stephen odey, Joseph Akpala, Ighalo, salami, Ajayi, Martins, Awoniyi all have more playing time in their belts than iheanacho. I guess we should call one of them in his stead just so we don't seem biased

Oasis007:
Sentiment aside, the Invitation of Osimhen is wrong. Like some Dudes here, I keep asking myself the justification behind his Invitation but I couldn't come up with any tangible Reason.

Some are saying the Coach knows what he's doing and believes in the Potentials of the Lad, but to me that's simply an Excuse. Why are we clamoring for Iheanacho to leave Man City for any Club for playing Time?!

Is it not because we want him to justify the Coach's Confidence in him as well as for him to perfect his Skills on the Pitch?! Ain't we sure of his Potentials?! Osimhen should have been allowed to fully recuperate and prove himself next Season before inviting him to the SE Camp.

45 mins of playing Time for a whole Season doesn't justify his Inclusion in the Team presently.

tbaba1234:


Onyekuru and Kayode forced their call-up by continously scoring not by any pressure. Who and who were applying pressure?

We have already seen that he does not make drastic changes and prefers his team to evolve gradually. The coach mentioned that the Osimhen role is geared towards the future not today.

Joebie:
This Osimhen matter don tire me. Does he usually make matchday squad for SE until the latest friendlies? There is room for a joker in a team. Ronaldo 9 went to USA 94 without kicking a ball. Did he deserve it? But the rest is history. What Rohr sees is what we can't see. When you have ran the rule over the boy personally, you can criticize. It's too early to judge Osmhen's club performance unless you just hate the boy.

All the players we are clamoring for cannot make the starting 11. Invitation and integration is a gradual process especially in a winning team like ours.

Icon4s:
Italy came from 1 goal down and 1 man down to beat Zambia 3-2.

Since after eliminating France and now Zambia even with 1man down from the 43rd mins, they have become strong favorites.

goldfish80:


To the best of my knowledge, nobody said Osimhen is not talented, even Million Koma is talented. The question have been if he has done enough to merit a senior national team call up in the past season? The answer is a resounding No! If we had qualified for the U20 world cup in Korea, he might not even be a sure starter for the team because someone else must have stepped up to the plate, just like Awoniyi stepped up and took Isaac Success's place at the last championship.

goldfish80:


To the best of my knowledge, nobody said Osimhen is not talented, even Million Koma is talented. The question have been if he has done enough to merit a senior national team call up in the past season? The answer is a resounding No! If we had qualified for the U20 world cup in Korea, he might not even be a sure starter for the team because someone else must have stepped up to the plate, just like Awoniyi stepped up and took Isaac Success's place at the last championship.

Joebie:
The problem is when we think a player has done better at the club level and should be considered ahead of another right away. Guys there are several factors in play. Invitation and dropping of a player is not based SOLELY on club performance.

Personally as a coach, if Osimhen impresses me in camp, the likelihood of me inviting him again is higher than inviting someone who JUST STARTED shining at club level. Coaches know that club form does not automatically translate internationally, which is why they give it time, until they are convinced they should give a new player a chance. Guys lets not forget that Mikel Agu has been in form all season. He just got his chance. But Orji just started shining..

If some of us here were coaches our player invitation list will change drastically every time because we go by the players performance after every club match. na wa oh.

And to the Ajagun matter. It is one thing to say he deserves a call up. It's yet another to say he is better than someone who have been flawless for SE, just because he seems more versatile. If Okocha were playing today will you say Ajagun is better because he is more versatile? Rohr may not need that versatility in the team at the moment. A jack of all trade is not necessarily a master of any. Versatility does not always mean better. Yes Ajagun could be an option in the future. I'm not saying he is not good enough. Just because he is #10 in his club does not mean if he were in SE right now he will be considered ahead of Mikel, Iwobi, or Etebo in that role. We are talking about Roda JC for God sake. Can you name another player in that team? Are they even still in the Eredivisie?

komekn:


Totally different parameters and circumstances KC is contending with World class tried and tested players in one of the richest and biggest clubs in the world.

There is no comparison furthermore he is not on the same level of Aguero and yes as bitter as it may be for some Gabriel.

Finally Pep really doesn't rate him enough to give him the game time. Currently I would say he is about our best truly top class forward player.

goldfish80:

How about those Rohr haven't seen? Have Rohr taken a close up look at Fenando Adi, Nwakaeme, Paul Onachu? If not for the pressure mounted in him, ONYEKURU and Kayode wouldn't have been invited.
These 4 players between them have scored. (+/-) 100 goals this season.
Why doesn't he want to see these other top performers?

Don't try to justify the inclusion of an inactive player in place of those who have actually performed this season.

Joebie:
The problem is when we think a player has done better at the club level and should be considered ahead of another right away. Guys there are several factors in play. Invitation and dropping of a player is not based SOLELY on club performance.

Personally as a coach, if Osimhen impresses me in camp, the likelihood of me inviting him again is higher than inviting someone who JUST STARTED shining at club level. Coaches know that club form does not automatically translate internationally, which is why they give it time, until they are convinced they should give a new player a chance. Guys lets not forget that Mikel Agu has been in form all season. He just got his chance. But Orji just started shining..

If some of us here were coaches our player invitation list will change drastically every time because we go by the players performance after every club match. na wa oh.

And to the Ajagun matter. It is one thing to say he deserves a call up. It's yet another to say he is better than someone who have been flawless for SE, just because he seems more versatile. If Okocha were playing today will you say Ajagun is better because he is more versatile? Rohr may not need that versatility in the team at the moment. A jack of all trade is not necessarily a master of any. Versatility does not always mean better. Yes Ajagun could be an option in the future. I'm not saying he is not good enough. Just because he is #10 in his club does not mean if he were in SE right now he will be considered ahead of Mikel, Iwobi, or Etebo in that role. We are talking about Roda JC for God sake. Can you name another player in that team? Are they even still in the Eredivisie?

Joebie:
This Osimhen matter don tire me. Does he usually make matchday squad for SE until the latest friendlies? There is room for a joker in a team. Ronaldo 9 went to USA 94 without kicking a ball. Did he deserve it? But the rest is history. What Rohr sees is what we can't see. When you have ran the rule over the boy personally, you can criticize. It's too early to judge Osmhen's club performance unless you just hate the boy.

All the players we are clamoring for cannot make the starting 11. Invitation and integration is a gradual process especially in a winning team like ours.

Joebie:
The problem is when we think a player has done better at the club level and should be considered ahead of another right away. Guys there are several factors in play. Invitation and dropping of a player is not based SOLELY on club performance.

Personally as a coach, if Osimhen impresses me in camp, the likelihood of me inviting him again is higher than inviting someone who JUST STARTED shining at club level. Coaches know that club form does not automatically translate internationally, which is why they give it time, until they are convinced they should give a new player a chance. Guys lets not forget that Mikel Agu has been in form all season. He just got his chance. But Orji just started shining..

If some of us here were coaches our player invitation list will change drastically every time because we go by the players performance after every club match. na wa oh.

And to the Ajagun matter. It is one thing to say he deserves a call up. It's yet another to say he is better than someone who have been flawless for SE, just because he seems more versatile. If Okocha were playing today will you say Ajagun is better because he is more versatile? Rohr may not need that versatility in the team at the moment. A jack of all trade is not necessarily a master of any. Versatility does not always mean better. Yes Ajagun could be an option in the future. I'm not saying he is not good enough. Just because he is #10 in his club does not mean if he were in SE right now he will be considered ahead of Mikel, Iwobi, or Etebo in that role. We are talking about Roda JC for God sake. Can you name another player in that team? Are they even still in the Eredivisie?

Joebie:
Na wa. To determine the golden horses, the question is who is indispensable as regards starting for us when we have a full house. Please don't put etebo in that league of maybes. I won't start Iwobi against Cameroon. Etebo has been unplayable CONSISTENTLY. No commit sin o..

Modified
And you no mention a whole Victor Moses. I hope say u no get hidden criteria

Xlad:
Having watched like 4 matches of England U20 team at this on going FIFA U20 world cup,
I will like to rate these Nigerian players:
1.) Ademola Lookman ~ 9 is the best among them.
2.) Onomah Josh ~ 8 had his best match against the
Korean team
3.) Fikayo Tomori ~ 7.5
4.) Seyi Ojo ~ 7
5.) Ovie Ejare ~ 6.5 too much sideway passes
6.) Dominic Solanke ~ 5.5 just average... Nothing special

Cc icon4s, joebie, TheGoodJoe, Forgiveness, The supernerd, Tbaba123, Mickael2, goldfish80, komekn, BascoVanVeli, Safari girl, etc

TheGoodJoe:



Just see as you are writing like if you are an Oracle. Isaac Success arrived late to camp while Awoniyi had time to blend with the team and coaches tactics. That is not stepping up in my dictionary. After Mikel's U17 until today, we are yet to see someone stepping up to his level.

So you can not say you are sure that someone would have stepped up. Football does not work like that.

Has Osimhen done enough to merit a call-up? Rohr already identified his special talents. Had camping sessions with them. He is in the best position to tell if Osimhen has done enough. Not you. Keep in mind, Rohr is conversant with German youth football system and has more insight into the development area of young talents in Germany.

If Rohr feels Osimhen needs to come to camp, he has my one hundred percent support.

Oasis007:


That's the Reason I've been avoiding making Comments on this Thread. Hatred?! Why should I hate him?

Why should I take my Critics on his Invitation so personal to the extent of hating him?! Can you tell me the Reason Isaac didn't make List?! He's also a great Lad with huge Potentials. So why didn't he make the List and no one is crying or wailing over it?!

It's very simple to answer - he's unfit, match rusty and couldn't get enough playing time at his Club. Forget what some Newspapers were saying about his Attitude at the Camp, we ain't there, hence we can't be so sure of their Reports on him.

Are you saying Osimhen is fit enough to be in the Team?! How many Goals did he score for his Club that warrants is inclusion in the List?! Guess you wanna tell me he's just back from Injury?! Then he should be allowed to recuperate, coz we ain't playing friendly Match against South Africa in Uyo.

Oasis007:


That's the Reason I've been avoiding making Comments on this Thread. Hatred?! Why should I hate him?

Why should I take my Critics on his Invitation so personal to the extent of hating him?! Can you tell me the Reason Isaac didn't make List?! He's also a great Lad with huge Potentials. So why didn't he make the List and no one is crying or wailing over it?!

It's very simple to answer - he's unfit, match rusty and couldn't get enough playing time at his Club. Forget what some Newspapers were saying about his Attitude at the Camp, we ain't there, hence we can't be so sure of their Reports on him.

Are you saying Osimhen is fit enough to be in the Team?! How many Goals did he score for his Club that warrants is inclusion in the List?! Guess you wanna tell me he's just back from Injury?! Then he should be allowed to recuperate, coz we ain't playing friendly Match against South Africa in Uyo.

Xlad:
Having watched like 4 matches of England U20 team at this on going FIFA U20 world cup,
I will like to rate these Nigerian players:
1.) Ademola Lookman ~ 9 is the best among them.
2.) Onomah Josh ~ 8 had his best match against the
Korean team
3.) Fikayo Tomori ~ 7.5
4.) Seyi Ojo ~ 7
5.) Ovie Ejare ~ 6.5 too much sideway passes
6.) Dominic Solanke ~ 5.5 just average... Nothing special

Cc icon4s, joebie, TheGoodJoe, Forgiveness, The supernerd, Tbaba123, Mickael2, goldfish80, komekn, BascoVanVeli, Safari girl, etc

goldfish80:


Awoniyi established himself in the team immediately Success got injured, Awoniyi didn't stand still, after the U17 WC, he went to to have a fine tournament at the AYC spear heading the attack. He was simultaneously playing for the U20s and U 23s at a point.
His fine run of form made him undroppable at the WYC.


If we can't boast of another player within the age of Osimhen who could replace him in our U20 team through out the length and breath of the country, we should forget about playing football and invest our time in other sport.

TheGoodJoe:


You do not know why Rohr left out Success. Just as you do not know why Rohr is interested in Osimhen. Finito. So writing off the possibility of Rohr having a problem with Success' attitude does not add up.

goldfish80:


Awoniyi established himself in the team immediately Success got injured, Awoniyi didn't stand still, after the U17 WC, he went to to have a fine tournament at the AYC spear heading the attack. He was simultaneously playing for the U20s and U 23s at a point.
His fine run of form made him undroppable at the WYC.


If we can't boast of another player within the age of Osimhen who could replace him in our U20 team through out the length and breath of the country, we should forget about playing football and invest our time in other sport.

Oasis007:


That ain't my Concern, and I've made my Point on the Invitation of Osimhen very clear. See..... we can't all sleep on the same Bed with our Heads on the Direction.

Mickael2:


this thread tire me. When people question Shehu's inclusion in the team because we have better fullbacks some people will say it's because he is versatile(I even accepted that assumption), now it's Ajagun's turn and you guys are saying Rohr doesn't want versatile players, what then does Rohr want?