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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:50pm On Jun 05, 2017
Oasis007:


grin

I really so much appreciate the highlighted Part. That's exactly my Point too.

He doesn't deserve the Call up, but we have to respect and support the Decision of the Coach.

As Safarigirl pointed out..... he's unlikely to start or play a Part in the Match, except an unwanted Situation calls for it.

Hence I'm expecting Iheanacho to lead the Attack, with Iwobi playing behind him, and flanked by Onyekuru and Musa.

Honestly, I would prefer Kayode to lead the Attack, Iheanacho as SS and flanked by Iwobi and Musa/Onyekuru.


Are you a Babylonian by profession? cheesy

Rohr is in the best position to say if Osimhen deserves a call or not. Me saying I did not say does not make Osimhen's call up wrong. I am saying Rohr is in the best position. If he believes we have a dynamite about to blow and he wants to prepare Osimhen, Rohr has my blessings.

Unlike Babylonians who do not know about what happened in camp, have no connection to the youth system in Germany, want to criticise the Young man's call-up.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 3:52pm On Jun 05, 2017
TheGoodJoe:



Are you a Babylonian by profession? cheesy

Rohr is in the best position to say if Osimhen deserves a call or not. Me saying I did not say does not make Osimhen's call up wrong. I am saying Rohr is in the best position. If he believes we have a dynamite about to blow and he wants to prepare Osimhen, Rohr has my blessings.

Unlike Babylonians who do not know about what happened in camp, have no connection to the youth system in Germany, want to criticise the Young man's call-up.

grin

Who cares! LOL!

If you do not say he deserves the Call up then what?! Stop playing Politics with your Answer. You've already made the Point known..... you are simply respecting the Coach's Decision.

Period!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:53pm On Jun 05, 2017
goldfish80:

Before the U17 world cup, Awoniyi was the second choice until Success got injured.
What would you call a deputy who held sway when Oga went on sick leave? Is that not stepping up? Looks like you have a problem understanding the context or direction a discussion is going.

We are talking about someone stepping up in the absence of Osimhen just like someone stepped up in the absence of Success and you're talking about Granada. How those these two pronouncments relate?

Are you saying someone that is not as good as Osimhen playing on Osimhen's absence? If that is stepping up to you, that is okay. You were talking of searching the whole country for a better talent.

Awo just played his role. He was second choice.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 3:53pm On Jun 05, 2017
Ok thanks for the correction. Someone is quickly making Ajagun a golden horse o.

safarigirl:
on this thread, goldeñ horses are not necessarily indispensable, they are the players who we defend come rain come shine. Na because of them we fit rack up 10 pages in an hour. Those are the golden horses in this context.

And while V Moses may be an important player, he is not a golden horse because he is not.dedicated to the National team and quite frankly, I have not seen an argument concerning him that has racked up to four pages, even less ten. Generally, there is a lukewarm feeling to him.

Etebo is certainly on a maybe list


The golden boys are the ones threadmates are most passionate about. Even Aluko and Solanke could make the list of maybes
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:57pm On Jun 05, 2017
Oasis007:


grin

Who cares! LOL!

If you do not say he deserves the Call up then what?! Stop playing Politics with your Answer. You've already made the Point known..... you are simply respecting the Coach's Decision.

Period!

As I said before, none of us called for the inclusion of Osimhen. Osimhen is there because of Rohr's belief in him and that is within the Manager's jurisdiction. As I also said, this is not the time to argue but watch the master do his thing.

I trust Rohr's opinion. If the Boss says the young man should stay in camp, then the young man stays in camp. Comprende.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 3:57pm On Jun 05, 2017
Speculation has it that,Seven S.A players are battling with injuries including tekolo rantie.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 3:57pm On Jun 05, 2017
How many positions has Shehu played under Rohr? The last time I checked we needed reinforcements in both full back positions. The problem have not been solved yet.

So why has Shehu only featured as a right back but not considered as the solution there?

Mickael2:


this thread tire me. When people question Shehu's inclusion in the team because we have better fullbacks some people will say it's because he is versatile(I even accepted that assumption), now it's Ajagun's turn and you guys are saying Rohr doesn't want versatile players, what then does Rohr want?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by minfelix(m): 3:58pm On Jun 05, 2017
plsss oo is there no news regarding the SE in camp..thought they are retreating in camp today

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by PROVERBZ(m): 3:59pm On Jun 05, 2017
Daninya11:
Speculation has it that,Seven S.A players are battling with injuries including tekolo rantie.
hlompo kekena had pulled out mabunda will replace him for me he was the biggest threat sa posed

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 3:59pm On Jun 05, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


Are you saying someone that is not as good as Osimhen playing on Osimhen's absence? If that is stepping up to you, that is okay. You were talking of searching the whole country for a better talent.

Awo just played his role. He was second choice.
So you belive there's no hidden talent somewhere in Nigeria as good as if not better than Osimhen?
Osimhen is now a god.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:01pm On Jun 05, 2017
goldfish80:

Osimhen is now in the league of Pele and Neymar? I know he's a personal favourite of yours but do you really have down this route?

Who said Osimhen is in their league? I used it to explain special talent to you. Amunike believes the young man is special. Osimhen proved Amunike right by breaking the U17 scoring record. Rohr sparked my interest by continuing the pursuit of this young man's potential. We can not tell how good Osimhen is until Rohr is through. Time will tell.

As for me, I am interested.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:03pm On Jun 05, 2017
goldfish80:

So you belive there's no hidden talent somewhere in Nigeria as good as if not better than Osimhen?
Osimhen is now a god.

They are very few special talents. Even if there is someone as good or better, it is very few. When we find the person, we will celebrate him. Just as we celebrated Iheanacho before Osimhen. Comprende?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 4:09pm On Jun 05, 2017
If you read my logic about limelight in our Orji vs Osimhen argument you will get the point. Even in other spheres of life timing is a big factor.
Osihmen got to limelight after scoring a record 10 goals at the U17 WC. Subsequent coaches ran the rule over him and were very impressed.
Rohr inherited the idea of Osimhen. Watched him in training and was convinced he is a prodigy. The boy has already made a solid impression.
It will take a season of failure for his light to fade. If it bothers you so much that he gets invitation, I'm sorry you are going to be troubled for a long spell, ESPECIALLY when the boy starts showing his stuff in Wolfsburg. Awoniyi kept making the matchday squad and was fielded consistently despite his inability to score in the Eredivisie. It took him a few final games to prove that he is not finished yet. Both NEC coaches were not fools. You can's see what they see by being an internet coach.

Oasis007:


That's the Reason I've been avoiding making Comments on this Thread. Hatred?! Why should I hate him?

Why should I take my Critics on his Invitation so personal to the extent of hating him?! Can you tell me the Reason Isaac didn't make List?! He's also a great Lad with huge Potentials. So why didn't he make the List and no one is crying or wailing over it?!

It's very simple to answer - he's unfit, match rusty and couldn't get enough playing time at his Club. Forget what some Newspapers were saying about his Attitude at the Camp, we ain't there, hence we can't be so sure of their Reports on him.

Are you saying Osimhen is fit enough to be in the Team?! How many Goals did he score for his Club that warrants is inclusion in the List?! Guess you wanna tell me he's just back from Injury?! Then he should be allowed to recuperate, coz we ain't playing friendly Match against South Africa in Uyo.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 4:11pm On Jun 05, 2017
i've been following the osimhen debate since the weekend and frankly speaking i don't get all frenzy and hyperventilation over his invitation. rohr the coach has watched him several times in close quarters and by his own judgment he feels the boy has something. all of us unless someone says otherwise don't have coaching badges so what makes us more knowledgeable than the man who has so far been delivering? osimhen is just one player out of 20 plus invites. the other invitees we all for the most part agree are spot on so what's the beef. erickson took walcott to 2006 world cup heaven did not collapse. if we argue that that decision affected england's performance before that tournament the english were poor and have continued to be poor in subsequent competitions. samuel etoo an unknown 17 year old was taken to france 98. cameroon football didn't implode from that decision. coaches take risk in young players all the time some pay off some don't but it's all part of grooming new players. let's view him first before passing judgment on him. as for certain players not being called up instead of using the victim card why not encourage them to continue to work hard churning out impressive performances so the coaches can no longer ignore them. ogu was ignored for so long he's now back in the fold. ikeme wasn't given a second look now our undisputable number 1. if aluko plays for say a crystal palace and proves his quality in the EPL settlement or no settlement he will be called up. same for ajagun. onyekuru, kayode, mikel agu, balogun, ogu among others have through determination and persistent good performances been recognized and invited. yes we know how things operated in the recent past as regards invitation but lets not allow our scepticism to blind us to the fact that we are moving in the right direction
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 4:14pm On Jun 05, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


They are very few special talents. Even if there is someone as good or better, it is very few. When we find the person, we will celebrate him. Just as we celebrated Iheanacho before Osimhen. Comprende?

You're free to hold whatever belive you want. Its neither my prerogative nor my obligation to change your opinion. You're totally free to hold onto your belive that Osimhen is irreplaceable while I cling to my belive that better talented players are bound in almost every local government across the country.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 4:20pm On Jun 05, 2017
Joebie:
If you read my logic about limelight in our Orji vs Osimhen argument you will get the point. Even in other spheres of life timing is a big factor.
Osihmen got to limelight after scoring a record 10 goals at the U17 WC. Subsequent coaches ran the rule over him and were very impressed.
Rohr inherited the idea of Osimhen. Watched him in training and was convinced he is a prodigy. The boy has already made a solid impression.
It will take a season of failure for his light to fade. If it bothers you so much that he gets invitation, I'm sorry you are going to be troubled for a long spell, ESPECIALLY when the boy starts showing his stuff in Wolfsburg. Awoniyi kept making the matchday squad and was fielded consistently despite his inability to score in the Eredivisie. It took him a few final games to prove that he is not finished yet. Both NEC coaches were not fools. You can's see what they see by being an internet coach.

spot on! now let me bring the issue of agbim constant selection under keshi. we all rightly doubted his quality but we waited to observe him in some of our matches before we placed a final judgment that he is not super eagles material. i haven't formed an opinion on osimhen yet because i've not seen him in action for the super eagles yet. i think the boy at least deserves the benefit of doubt to prove his quality or lack thereof
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 4:21pm On Jun 05, 2017
tbaba1234:


Onyekuru and Kayode forced their call-up by continously scoring not by any pressure. Who and who were applying pressure?

We have already seen that he does not make drastic changes and prefers his team to evolve gradually. The coach mentioned that the Osimhen role is geared towards the future not today.
With so much talents popping up I don't think Rohr will do our football good if he just takes hold of what is available now without laying foundation for the future. If he doesn't do that our potential dominance would be shortlived. Why is it so difficult to just fold our arms and watch in this Osimhen issue. What if he turns out good for us? What if not? Both ifs can only be settled when the young man is tested. Their arguments is that at this stage he ought not to be tested at all. Tomorrow beckons, brothers.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 4:21pm On Jun 05, 2017
Icon79:
I hope you're being sarcastic. I mean, who can they displace amongst the following players:
VicMo
Nacho
Iwobi
Ndidi
Etebo
Obi Mikel

Please enlighten me.

O pari



Hahahahahah! You dey find my turobulu ooooooo Mr Opari. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 4:29pm On Jun 05, 2017
goldfish80:


Initially it was reported that Kayode's and Onyekuru's names were missing from the initial list.
Alot of eye brows were raised. Dont tell me you've forgotten.

Much is expected of Osimhen obviously, but I have seen you argue that Nwakali should bid his time and wait because we have our midfield already stock. Time and time again, you have ran with this line of argument. Can't one make same arguement about Osimhen since we have strikers in Europe performing at top gear.
Nwakaeme, Onachu, Kayode and Onyekuru were top scorers in their league.
Why can't the same argument be made about Osimhen if not the fact that he's a personal favorite of most people here?
Chai (it literarily came out of my mouth when I read Nwakaeme) that guy is another Oduamadi and what's the name of the other striker we took to confederation cup again ooo. Bros leave that guy with his high goal scoring. Ee no be am. The others you mentioned are contenders for a place in our team but not Nwakaeme.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 4:31pm On Jun 05, 2017
goldfish80:


You're free to hold whatever belive you want. Its neither my prerogative nor my obligation to change your opinion. You're totally free to hold onto your belive that Osimhen is irreplaceable while I cling to my belive that better talented players are bound in almost every local government across the country.
nobody is irreplaceable not even the great ronaldo or messi if they start posting consistent poor performances. what the goodjoe and other monikers have said is rohr has looked at osimhen and sees something special in the boy. its left for him to prove rohr right or wrong. its not like the boy is blocking the destiny of anybody abi were onyekuru, kayode, muazzem and even odey not called up? whoever you feel wasn't called up now if he continues to impress will get his chance

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 4:32pm On Jun 05, 2017
Since, some people claimed that club performance is not necessary once you are talented, I will advise the coaching screw to go to Ajegunle, Aba secondary schools, etc so that he can be spoiled for choice when Rohr sees them 'at close quarters'. grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Orkpekyandega(m): 4:32pm On Jun 05, 2017
TheSuperNerd:
China : Ighalo Misses Penalty As Changchun , Guizhou Draw
By James Agberebi




Super Eagles striker Odion Ighalo, who has been left out of the Nigeria squad to face South Africa in an Africa Cup of Nations qualifier on Saturday, missed from the penalty spot in his club Changchun Yatai’s 1-1 home draw against nine-man Guizhou Hengfeng in the Chinese Super League on Sunday, Completesportsnigeria.com reports.


Former Everton striker Nikica Jelavic gave Guizhou Hengfeng the lead in the first minute of the game.


Guizhou were reduced to 10 men following a straight red card shown to Pengfei Han.

Changchun had a chance to level the score when they were awarded a 28th minute penalty which Ighalo failed to convert.
The one-man advantage eventually paid off for Changchun as Long Tan made it 1-1 in the 50th minute.

Guizhou had another player sent off in the 90th minute as Boyang Su received his second yellow card.

The draw leaves Changchun in 13th position on nine points in the 16-team league table, one point above the drop zone.
Ighalo has scored two goals in 10 CSL appearances for Changchun so far.


Source: http://www.completesportsnigeria.com/china-ighalo-misses-penalty/
Chisos!!!
Somebody still went ahead to like this post

Nawaoooo I am not understanding ooooo
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 4:33pm On Jun 05, 2017
do4luv14:


good say Dem lose, make dat popsi called FASHION SEKALA go wire him wifey small, chaiii im fashion im age go U-20, but him face and body no gree follow am grin shocked
Hahahaha hahahaha. You bad. If him catch you him go fashion your face with slap.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 4:35pm On Jun 05, 2017
Mujtahida:

With so much talents popping up I don't think Rohr will do our football good if he just takes hold of what is available now without laying foundation for the future. If he doesn't do that our potential dominance would be shortlived. Why is it so difficult to just fold our arms and watch in this Osimhen issue. What if he turns out good for us? What if not? Both ifs can only be settled when the young man is tested. Their arguments is that at this stage he ought not to be tested at all. Tomorrow beckons, brothers.

exactly! the yekinis, okochas, kanus of before did they just drop and become mainstays in the national team overnight?
forgiveness:
Since, some people claimed that club performance is not necessary once you are talented, I will advise the coaching screw to go to Ajegunle, Aba secondary schools, etc so that he can be spoiled for choice when Rohr sees them 'at close quarters'. grin
forgiveness:
Since, some people claimed that club performance is not necessary once you are talented, I will advise the coaching screw to go to Ajegunle, Aba secondary schools, etc so that he can be spoiled for choice when Rohr sees them 'at close quarters'. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 4:37pm On Jun 05, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


Who said Osimhen is in their league? I used it to explain special talent to you. Amunike believes the young man is special. Osimhen proved Amunike right by breaking the U17 scoring record. Rohr sparked my interest by continuing the pursuit of this young man's potential. We can not tell how good Osimhen is until Rohr is through. Time will tell.

As for me, I am interested.

If we were talking about Gambia or Seychelles I would have understood. But we are talking about Nigeria, do you know how many top goal scorers at the u17 level we have produced down the years?
What's so special about scoring at the u17 anyway? Synema Pogolle used to the the record holder of the most goals at the U17 level till Souleymane Coulibally equalled the record in 2011. What did scoring goals at the u17 help Synema Pogolle achieve in his career? How about Coulibally? I hear he plays for Al Ahli these days. That's a far cry from his days breaking goals records at the u17s.

Till Osimhen starts producing at wolfsburg, his invite will always be questionable with an asterisks

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 4:37pm On Jun 05, 2017
Mujtahida:

Hahahaha hahahaha. You bad. If him catch you him go fashion your face with slap.


nah if him fit catch me, infact ah go use that him fine wifey
show am how to cheat grin grin shocked
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 4:39pm On Jun 05, 2017
Oasis007:


That's the Reason I've been avoiding making Comments on this Thread. Hatred?! Why should I hate him?

Why should I take my Critics on his Invitation so personal to the extent of hating him?! Can you tell me the Reason Isaac didn't make List?! He's also a great Lad with huge Potentials. So why didn't he make the List and no one is crying or wailing over it?!

It's very simple to answer - he's unfit, match rusty and couldn't get enough playing time at his Club. Forget what some Newspapers were saying about his Attitude at the Camp, we ain't there, hence we can't be so sure of their Reports on him.

Are you saying Osimhen is fit enough to be in the Team?! How many Goals did he score for his Club that warrants is inclusion in the List?! Guess you wanna tell me he's just back from Injury?! Then he should be allowed to recuperate, coz we ain't playing friendly Match against South Africa in Uyo.
I read one time that Isaac Success has injury. Even his club had to write to the NFF. I think that's why he was not invited.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 4:41pm On Jun 05, 2017
Exactly. Let's shift our attention to those are being fielded. Invitation alone is not a big issue.
chrisooblog:
spot on! now let me bring the issue of agbim constant selection under keshi. we all rightly doubted his quality but we waited to observe him in some of our matches before we placed a final judgment that he is not super eagles material. i haven't formed an opinion on osimhen yet because i've not seen him in action for the super eagles yet. i think the boy at least deserves the benefit of doubt to prove his quality or lack thereof
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 4:42pm On Jun 05, 2017
Xlad:
Having watched like 4 matches of England U20 team at this on going FIFA U20 world cup,
I will like to rate these Nigerian players:
1.) Ademola Lookman ~ 9 is the best among them.
2.) Onomah Josh ~ 8 had his best match against the
Korean team
3.) Fikayo Tomori ~ 7.5
4.) Seyi Ojo ~ 7
5.) Ovie Ejare ~ 6.5 too much sideway passes
6.) Dominic Solanke ~ 5.5 just average... Nothing special

Cc icon4s, joebie, TheGoodJoe, Forgiveness, The supernerd, Tbaba123, Mickael2, goldfish80, komekn, BascoVanVeli, Safari girl, etc
Joebie shey you see what I said about Ejaria and affirmed by omanbala if I remember well enough?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by eterisan(m): 4:43pm On Jun 05, 2017
forgiveness:


No comment until I see the matches with my korokoro eyes because I no trust the way people take watch their ball come analyse. grin

However, based on my previous examination on them, this is how I rate them.

Lookman
Solanke grin
Onomah
Sheyi

I have not really seen Ovie and Fikayo but until den that is my rating. grin

Those boys can displace most of the players in the Super Eagles with ease. grin
Forgive me forgiveness but you can make unnecessary nd unguarded comments eh! Displace who now? Abeg explain

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 4:43pm On Jun 05, 2017
Mujtahida:

Chai (it literarily came out of my mouth when I read Nwakaeme) that guy is another Oduamadi and what's the name of the other striker we took to confederation cup again ooo. Bros leave that guy with his high goal scoring. Ee no be am. The others you mentioned are contenders for a place in our team but not Nwakaeme.
Nwakaeme was the Mvp at Isreal this past season. He's a performer for his club, the same club which parades a super Eagles player. He also had a decent campaign in the Europa league to show he should be taken seriously.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 4:43pm On Jun 05, 2017
forgiveness:
Since, some people claimed that club performance is not necessary once you are talented, I will advise the coaching screw to go to Ajegunle, Aba secondary schools, etc so that he can be spoiled for choice when Rohr sees them 'at close quarters'. grin
has anybody from ajegunle or aba secondary school won golden boot at u17 world cup? anyway the opinion of coaches who have actually seen him is what matters and not of someone who is doing cry baby because their favourites weren't called up

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