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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:52pm On Jun 06, 2017
Kog45:
Yea i read a comment on Onigbinde sometimes ago on this thread and i was wondering coz he was tagged a tribalism man for taken Opadiran to world cup

A lot forget that d same Onigbinde made young Stephen Keshi his captain in Afcon 84 over Muda Lawal a yoruba man who was making 5th Afcon appearance at Afcon 84.

Good Rohr is not a Ibo man,he could have been tagged a tribalism for inviting Osimieh to camp.

@bolded you dey mind those ones. When I went through Onigbinde lists during his times with the national team, I couldn't find more than 5 players of his kind on his list yet you will find 7- 10 of..... pointing accusing fingers. grin yeye dey smell. grin

Last @bolded has something to do with connection who know man.

I am beginning to think those who employed Rohr could also influence him.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by soetanoreoluwa(m): 5:54pm On Jun 06, 2017
Bafana Bafana hard at work ahead of match against Nigeria


Bafana Bafana are hard at work in camp ahead of their pivotal match against Nigeria in the Africa Cup of Nations Qualifier.

Stuart Baxter can however be happy that the injured players were all training on Tuesday, except Rivaldo Coetzee and Tokelo Rantie who are expected in full training on Wednesday.

South Africans know that any match against Nigeria is an immense battle. Bafana have only beaten Nigeria once with the win coming in 2004 when the two teams played in the Nelson Mandela Challenge Cup at Ellis Park Stadium.

Bafana have found it difficult to break the hoodoo against Nigeria.

However, Baxter, who was the coach when they won the match in 2004, says the squad is buzzing and are ready for the big match on Saturday:

"If you are a good player you want to play big games and Nigeria in the Afcon is a big game. So they want to test themselves against good players and they have undoubtedly a good squad of players. So I think it could be that, it could be the fact that there are few new faces that want to establish themselves and I think it’s probably a few of that them think they have made good moves that have enhanced their careers and they want to show that. Whatever the reason I’m taking so I hope we can keep that buzz.”

Newly named Bafana Captain, Thulani Hlatshwayo says they have soldiers who will die for the nation in this crucial match.

"I am a guy who always likes to compete and I’ve captained against Nigeria when we played them against Mbombela unfortunately we didn’t convert the penalty we received and when you look back at that game we dribbled them we controlled the game. It’s just the critical phases the coach is always talking about, so it’s a familiar environment I’m aware of playing against Nigeria. We know that we have to go there and come back with a good result to make sure the country is proud of us, though we know that it will demand a lot of soldiers around the team and I’m one of them.”

After not being part of the last Bafana team, Bongani Zungu made sure the new coach recalled him in Portugal.

He says he hopes his experience will help the team. "If I get a chance I will make sure I grab it with both hands cause it’s very important for the nation the completion is very good. There’s also a bunch of good players who play locally and it’s exciting and I’m looking forward to taking my experience from Portugal to bring it here."

The head coach is confident that he will have a full squad to choose from after injury scares to a few players.


http://www.sabc.co.za/news/a/ede0888041697c8591addfbafe45a256/-

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by soetanoreoluwa(m): 5:57pm On Jun 06, 2017
Kog45:
Thank God Rohr is not from Niger deltan

There is no person that can't be influence so far you are human being.. Rohr is not an exception!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by soetanoreoluwa(m): 5:58pm On Jun 06, 2017
forgiveness:


@bolded you dey mind those ones. When I went through Onigbinde lists during his times with the national team, I couldn't find more than 5 players of his kind on his list yet you will find 7- 10 of..... pointing accusing fingers. grin yeye dey smell. grin

Last @bolded has something to do with connection who know man.

I am beginning to think those who employed Rohr could also influence him.

There is no person that can't be influence so far you are human being.. Rohr is not an exception!

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 5:59pm On Jun 06, 2017
grin how Na? Lol
AIG07:
@Joebie. Sir, you're not kind o... You must have been a clinical finisher as a young boy. THIS IS BRUTAL.

*winks*
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 6:00pm On Jun 06, 2017
OMANBALA1:


Sometimes there are circumstances that influence coaches choices and players invitation and these things can be a little confusing. For instance,Kayode was already an established striker in Austria when Osimhen was still at the U17 ,yet Osimhen was invited ahead of Kayode due to the fact that Austrian league was lowly ranked while in Osimhen we discovered a super duper talent that needs to be nurtured on time.

And lets be honest,Kayode is not a rare super talent like Osimhen and Iheanacho.
Kayode have been the highest scoring Nigerian player in Europe for 2 seasons in a row. He's a super talent who haven't been given an opportunity at the top level.
He's a lot like Mane. Any good talent spotter will see that.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 6:02pm On Jun 06, 2017
Kog45:
ok boss.Pls d guy is from which part of naija
He's from Benin sire.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:02pm On Jun 06, 2017
komekn:


So what about those who stand out in thier teams proven, tested and established top consistent performers in top level teams and league.

They should be left aside denied opportunity, excluded until Rohr decides according to his own self based and self justified unit of measurement that they are worthy.

That's defies reasoning.

These players may be outstanding in their clubs and what they do. However, they may not fit into the system and immediate plans of the coach.
A good example is Coach Monday Sinclair and Okocha. Okocha was one of the best players in the game of football but when Coach Sinclair was to select his team, he left out Okocha for Oruma. He preferred Oruma because Coach Sinclair had a philosophy that a player should only dribble when in tight situations. Meanwhile Okocha preferred holding the ball when in space and attracting players to him to create room for the other players.

If Okocha was a foreign player and Coach Sinclair left him out, you will feel he is being unfair but contrary to that view, Coach Sinclair was being true to his philosophy.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:03pm On Jun 06, 2017
goldfish80:

Kayode have been the highest scoring Nigerian player in Europe for 2 seasons in a row. He's a super talent who haven't been given an opportunity at the top level.
He's a lot like Mane. Any good talent spotter will see that.

In Austria.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 6:05pm On Jun 06, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


In Austria.
Yes. Same Austria Mane was poached from. Kayode hae scored more goals than Mane did at Austria, you can do that maths.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:06pm On Jun 06, 2017
goldfish80:

Kayode have been the highest scoring Nigerian player in Europe for 2 seasons in a row. He's a super talent who haven't been given an opportunity at the top level.
He's a lot like Mane. Any good talent spotter will see that.

Keep in mind that Ighalo was also hot property and we had the likes of Ideye and Emenike.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:07pm On Jun 06, 2017
goldfish80:

Yes. Same Austria Mane was poached from. Kayode hae scored more goals than Mane did at Austria, you can do that maths.

Mane poached from, not called up to the Super Eagles. Even Alaba got poached from Austria. The point is that you should not make it look as if topping the league in Austria is similar to the EPL and La Liga. The competition is less.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 6:09pm On Jun 06, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


Keep in mind that Ighalo was also hot property and we had the likes of Ideye and Emenike.
Ighalo only had one good season,same as Emenike. Kayode have been prolific for 2 seasons in a row and he's younger than both of them., hence my submission that his celine is quite high.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:09pm On Jun 06, 2017
goldfish80:

Ighalo only had one good season,same as Emenike. Kayode have been prolific for 2 seasons in a row and he's younger, hence my submission that his celine is quite high.

Prolific for two seasons in Austria. Not the same as what Ighalo did.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 6:12pm On Jun 06, 2017
ChrisKels:
Sir forgiveness, how come u couldn't broker a better deal for Abdul Ajagun? While others are stepping up, he is headed for a small team in Lokeren.

If Azubike's move to either Monaco or Besiktas comes to fruition, with Mathews imminent move to Anderletch (Belgium's biggest club) this transfer window, then ur boy would be on a long thing.


Modified ; I think Onazi should find a way outta Turkey or better yet, make a move to a bigger club(in the mould of Besiktas, Galatasaray, Fener) because the competition might make him a victim of this looming stampede. I said this because in Nigeria, we respect clubs more than the talent in clubs. If Esiti (poor man's wanyama), moves to PSG hmm...I doubt Onazi would still be getting invites playing for Trabzonspor
Agreed but i remember Onazi had a great career with Lazio and have a good experience as a national team player,so what a fuss about Esiti moving to PSG.

Honestly is good to play for bigger club but is not a guarantee for automatic shirt in d national team.Remember Owubokiri and Mike Obiku were painting Europe red with goals respectively with Boavista and Feyenord and Yekini was playing for Setubal in d Portuguese 2nd div.

The same thing can be said of Godwin Okpara playing for PSG but find it so hard to play for Super Eagles.What of Victor Ikpeba doing it so well for Monaco but find Amuneke of Zamalek so difficult to bench or what do u have to say of Etebo of lowly Farense breaking into starting Eleven of Super Eagles or Tijani Babaginda of Roda Jc watching Finidi George then home based doing it perfectly well.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 6:12pm On Jun 06, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


Mane poached from, not called up to the Super Eagles. Even Alaba got poached from Austria. The point is that you should not make it look as if topping the league in Austria is similar to the EPL and La Liga. The competition is less.
Being top scorer in Austria and most scoring Nigerian player in Europe for 2 seasons in a row, all achieved while still under 25yrs, seriously indicate he's a talent who deserves a look in.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 6:14pm On Jun 06, 2017
Right! Because it is in camp tht the coach instils his own tactics. If you can't measure up to his winning philosophy you will be phased out.

TheGoodJoe:


I do not develop ideologies. I study and you can find out that they make big sense. A good example is Osimhen's case. When I was hammering about training above game time, people argued. Today, Rohr is doing precisely that.

Someone like you should see that I was right but you decide to bury your head from the fact right in front of your eyes.

Another example is how you argued against Rohr checking on Oshaniwa. At the end, Rohr did precisely what I said. Invited him to camp, neglecting the lack of game time and seeing for himself if Oshaniwa was still good enough.

If Rohr is impressed with Osimhen's form in training, all those game time talk is nothing but Super Story. What matters is those who stand out in camp. Not historical data.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:15pm On Jun 06, 2017
goldfish80:

Being top scorer in Austria and most scoring Nigerian player in Europe for 2 seasons in a row, all achieved while still under 25yrs, seriously indicate he's a talent who deserves a look in.

Talent but not strong enough to displace the likes of Ighalo and Emenike at that time. By the way, the second season just happened. So it shows why it took long for him to get a call-up. The competition is stiff. Austrian goals is not strong enough. The young man needs to keep working hard.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 6:15pm On Jun 06, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


Prolific for two seasons in Austria. Not the same as what Ighalo did.
Add his exploit in the Europa league to that and you're looking at a real talent.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:17pm On Jun 06, 2017
goldfish80:

Add his exploit in the Europa league to that and you're looking at a real talent.


Just happened too and he is in camp now. So, what is the problem?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 6:17pm On Jun 06, 2017
Nice move. In fact I love the competition in the SE. Esiti will have to wait to get another chance.

ChrisKels:
While others were fighting their ways into reckoning, igiebor and his likes were busy blabbing


Exclusive – PSG Open Transfer
Talks With Gent Over Out Of
Favour Eagles Ace Anderson
Esiti
Anderson Esiti is in line for a big move away
from Belgium side Gent with French giants PSG
currently holding talks over his transfer.
Owngoalnigeria.com exclusively gathered that
talks are already on regarding his possible
transfer with Gent willing to let the midfielder
nicknamed the beast leave this summer.
Esiti joined Gent last summer for €1.5m from
Portuguese side Estoril, but the club have a
15% sell on clause in the deal that took him to
the Belgium side, which means they are also
entitled to a chunk of his transfer fee if he
moves to PSG.
Already Gent has quoted €20m as his price tag
to PSG, who are now looking for ways to beat
the price down a bit, as the player is high on
the summer transfer wishlist of coach Unai
Emery.
The 23 year old has fallen out of favour with
the national team selectors of Nigeria, and
despite his fine form for Gent in the recently
concluded season, he still wasn’t considered for
the training camp in France, and the game
against South Africa this weekend.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:18pm On Jun 06, 2017
goldfish80:

Add his exploit in the Europa league to that and you're looking at a real talent.

If Kayode was not a talent, he would not be in camp. He was always promising from his U17 days. I doubt anyone is saying Kayode is not a talent. I am just saying you should not overhype his Austrian exploits.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 6:20pm On Jun 06, 2017
goldfish80:
He's from Benin sire.
Esan not Benin.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 6:21pm On Jun 06, 2017
Onazi will keep getting invites until he is overshadowed in camp by one these newbies. That's how it works. Onazi is already part of the winning set up.

It will be impossible to ignore players shinning in big clubs. However they will still have to fit in to Rohrs tactics.

ChrisKels:
Sir forgiveness, how come u couldn't broker a better deal for Abdul Ajagun? While others are stepping up, he is headed for a small team in Lokeren.

If Azubike's move to either Monaco or Besiktas comes to fruition, with Mathews imminent move to Anderletch (Belgium's biggest club) this transfer window, then ur boy would be on a long thing.


Modified ; I think Onazi should find a way outta Turkey or better yet, make a move to a bigger club(in the mould of Besiktas, Galatasaray, Fener) because the competition might make him a victim of this looming stampede. I said this because in Nigeria, we respect clubs more than the talent in clubs. If Esiti (poor man's wanyama), moves to PSG hmm...I doubt Onazi would still be getting invites playing for Trabzonspor

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:22pm On Jun 06, 2017
chrisooblog:
well only time can tell if he will become just as good as them. yekini was not an instant hit with the national team but the coaches kept calling him up. kanu fresh off his u17 exploits was invited by westerhof to camp before usa 94. he had barely played professional senior football but clemens saw his potential and wanted to see him up close so brother beg for forgiveness and stop crying wolf where there is none


Yes! Yekini wasn't an instant hit with the national team (na who tell you that one) yet was an instant hit with his clubs. Na still d same thing I dey talk. grin

Chinekemeee! You mean Kanu Nwankwo was chopping bench in Iwanyanwu in 1993 and Ajax 1994 before Clement called him? shocked shocked grin

Abeg! Lick your mouth, na lie full am. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 6:24pm On Jun 06, 2017
goldfish80:

Being top scorer in Austria and most scoring Nigerian player in Europe for 2 seasons in a row, all achieved while still under 25yrs, seriously indicate he's a talent who deserves a look in.
ighalo was also prolific for two seasons in championship and EPL. In all this osimhen debate no one has mentioned the player whose destiny he is blocking
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 6:26pm On Jun 06, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


Talent but not strong enough to displace the likes of Ighalo and Emenike at that time. By the way, the second season just happened. So it shows why it took long for him to get a call-up. The competition is stiff. Austrian goals is not strong enough. The young man needs to keep working hard.
If Alaba and Mane were discovered in Austria not so long ago, it clearly should indicate to you that the league is coming in leap and bound.
The fact that Redbull recognised the potential there and decided to invest heavily in the Austrian market by their ownership of Redbull salzburg should tell you something. Even top. German managers like Ralph Ragnic, Otmar Hitzfield and Roger Shmidt have all worked in Austria.

Go watch how Austra Vienna destroyed As Roma, you will get the gist about the tremendous growth currently witnessed in Austria.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tglobal(m): 6:28pm On Jun 06, 2017
forgiveness:


Yes! Yekini wasn't an instant hit with the national team (na who tell you that one) yet was an instant hit with his clubs. Na still d same thing I dey talk. grin

Chinekemeee! You mean Kanu Nwankwo was chopping bench in Iwanyanwu in 1993 and Ajax 1994 before Clement called him? shocked shocked grin

Abeg! Like your mouth, na lie full am. grin



Kanu wasn't an Ajax regular in 1994. He played about 5 or 6 matches all season. I will submit that it is legitimate to conclude the basis for his invitation was the interaction Westerhof had with him when he was working the U17 team prior to their final qualifiers against Algeria a year earlier.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 6:30pm On Jun 06, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


If Kayode was not a talent, he would not be in camp. He was always promising from his U17 days. I doubt anyone is saying Kayode is not a talent. I am just saying you should not overhype his Austrian exploits.
I highlighted his exploits over the 2 seasons to indicate he's not a watered down talent in comparison to Kelechi and Osimhen like someone was trying to us believe. Because he haven't had a shot at bugger league shouldn't be used to measure how talented he actually is.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by pappyshun(m): 6:32pm On Jun 06, 2017
Guys, is Morouf Youssuf in camp?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 6:34pm On Jun 06, 2017
Icon4s:


Esan not Benin.
This is d reason i love nairaland especially this thread.I said d guy is from Igbo tribe but goldfish80 said NO d guy is from Benin now Icon4 baba said Esan.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 6:42pm On Jun 06, 2017
chrisooblog:
ighalo was also prolific for two seasons in championship and EPL. In all this osimhen debate no one has mentioned the player whose destiny he is blocking

True, Ighalo had 2 prolific seasons in Europe. However, compare a 24 yr old Ighalo vs 24 yr old Kayode, the difference is quite glaring.

About Osimhen, are you honestly saying that you can't list Nigerian strikers in Europe last season who scored a raft of goals while Osimhen played a paltry 41 minutes?

This reminds me how England dropped an inform Premier league winner in Danny Drinkwater and instead went to battle with Jack Wilshere who registered just 141 minutes enroute Euro 2016.
Roy Hudson hung and dried by this decision which ultimately cost him his job.

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