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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 6:43pm On Jun 06, 2017
forgiveness:


Yes! Yekini wasn't an instant hit with the national team (na who tell you that one) yet was an instant hit with his clubs. Na still d same thing I dey talk. grin

Chinekemeee! You mean Kanu Nwankwo was chopping bench in Iwanyanwu in 1993 and Ajax 1994 before Clement called him? shocked shocked grin

Abeg! Like your mouth, na lie full am. grin


what was yekini's goal record between 84 and 89 for the national team? In the build up to USA 94 Nigeria played against Sweden in a friendly kanu featured after the world cup we played against England kanu also played. I'm tired of giving you free history lessons. You claim to be smart the least you could have done was check Google or YouTube before branding me a lie
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 6:43pm On Jun 06, 2017
ok kayode is in camp.

goldfish80:

Being top scorer in Austria and most scoring Nigerian player in Europe for 2 seasons in a row, all achieved while still under 25yrs, seriously indicate he's a talent who deserves a look in.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 6:48pm On Jun 06, 2017
Ok he is from Edo state.

Kog45:
This is d reason i love nairaland especially this thread.I said d guy is from Igbo tribe but goldfish80 said NO d guy is from Benin now Icon4 baba said Esan.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 6:55pm On Jun 06, 2017
Kog45:
This is d reason i love nairaland especially this thread.I said d guy is from Igbo tribe but goldfish80 said NO d guy is from Benin now Icon4 baba said Esan.
Osimhen sounds very much Edo. Icon4s is right.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:57pm On Jun 06, 2017
tglobal:


Kanu wasn't an Ajax regular in 1994. He played about 5 or 6 matches all season. I will submit that it is legitimate to conclude the basis for his invitation was the interaction Westerhof had with him when he was working the U17 team prior to their final qualifiers against Algeria a year earlier.

At least, there was 'he played about 6 matches'. Besides, he played regularly in the NPFL then, even scoring goals.

Kanu situation is different from Osimhen.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 6:57pm On Jun 06, 2017
Kog45:
This is d reason i love nairaland especially this thread.I said d guy is from Igbo tribe but goldfish80 said NO d guy is from Benin now Icon4 baba said Esan.

If you call an Esan man Benin or vice versa if cutlass dey near your life may never remain the same.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 6:58pm On Jun 06, 2017
Man City Make Check On Bayern Munich's Nigerian Superkid Ezekwem, Dubbed The Next Alaba
Published: June 06, 2017
Man City Make Check On Bayern Munich's Nigerian Superkid Ezekwem, Dubbed The Next AlabaBayern Munich's young Nigerian defender Kimberly Ezekwem displayed his skills at the recently concluded Puskás Cup.

A representative of Premier League side Manchester City was spotted at the Pancho Arena for the U17 tournament involving the youth teams of Bayern Munich, Real Madrid, Puskás Akadémia, Panathinaikos, Sporting CP and Budapest Honvéd.

The Citizens talent spotter was in Hungary to keep an eye on the most outstanding players in the tournament.

Ezekwem, a left wing-back who models his game on David Alaba, went the distance in all the matches played by Bayern, and came close to scoring in his team's loss to Panathinaikos.

Born June 19, 2001, the highly-rated Ezekwem represented the youth team of 1860 Munich before he joined city rivals Bayern Munich.

http://allnigeriasoccer.com/read_news.php?nid=23314

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 7:00pm On Jun 06, 2017
yes, two rival tribes in Edo state.
Icon4s:


If you call an Esan man Benin or vice versa if cutlass dey near your life may never remain the same.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 7:05pm On Jun 06, 2017
goldfish80:


True, Ighalo had 2 prolific seasons in Europe. However, compare a 24 yr old Ighalo vs 24 yr old Kayode, the difference is quite glaring.

About Osimhen, are you honestly saying that you can't list Nigerian strikers in Europe last season who scored a raft of goals while Osimhen played a paltry 41 minutes?

This reminds me how England dropped an inform Premier league winner in Danny Drinkwater and instead went to battle with Jack Wilshere who registered just 141 minutes enroute Euro 2016.
Roy Hudson hung and dried by this decision which ultimately cost him his job.
bro kayode is now in the team. Boss you still haven't named the striker who has been wrongly ignored. Mikel obi because of his transfer saga in 2005 didn't play almost a year of competitive football yet that didn't stop siasia and eguavoen from picking him for the 2005 u20 and 2006 AFCON squads

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 7:08pm On Jun 06, 2017
Mujtahida:
Osimhen sounds very much Edo. Icon4s is right.
He is from Edo state...the esan speaking tribe likewise ighalo
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by OMANBALA1: 7:11pm On Jun 06, 2017
goldfish80:

Osimhen is not Igbo.

Lol...I bet he thought Osimhen was Igbo.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 7:12pm On Jun 06, 2017
I just dey one side dey watch una debate this Osimhen case.

I think I was one of the earliest persons that raised eyebrows since last year about this Rohr's romance with Osimhen. Of which he has never made match day squads. Meaning he is making little or no impact in the team. Just drills. I don't have any issues with that.

However, from the angle of Rohr preparing him for the future, I'll say ok na we are watching. But he should also not that other teen strikers are coming up like Tammy Abraham and Orji Okonkwo and they also deserve a look-in too. Something like a rotation will do.

The forward position is a major place I tolerate rookies. So if Rohr reserves a slot for a 3rd striker who will be a highly rated teen I think it's a good development. After-all qualifier games are typically played with two CF options.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 7:12pm On Jun 06, 2017
chrisooblog:
what was yekini's goal record between 84 and 89 for the national team? In the build up to USA 94 Nigeria played against Sweden in a friendly kanu featured after the world cup we played against England kanu also played. I'm tired of giving you free history lessons. You claim to be smart the least you could have done was check Google or YouTube before branding me a lie

Wetin concern me with how many goals he scored for the national team?

I am asking, how many goals did he score or how many matches did he play for his club that warranted his call to the national team?


Was Kanu a professional Footballer with regular playing time or a newbies like Osimhen with only 2 or 3 (total 50 minutes) matches of club professional league Football before he was invited to the national team?

I am not interested in those history of yours because it is inconsequential to the debate, why call Osimhen who only played 3 matches with very few minutes to the national team?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 7:15pm On Jun 06, 2017
Joebie:
yes, two rival tribes in Edo state.

Yes o. As close as they are they hardly understand their languages due to the hatred.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 7:30pm On Jun 06, 2017
forgiveness:


Wetin concern me with how many goals he scored for the national team?

I am asking, how many goals did he score or how many matches did he play that warrant his call to the national team?


Was Kanu a professional Footballer with regular playing time or a newbies like Osimhen with only 2 or 3 (total 50 minutes) matches of club professional league Football?

I am not interested in those history of yours because it is inconsequential to the debate, why call Osimhen who only played 3 matches with very few minutes to the national team?
dude are you for real? Someone wasn't scoring regularly for the national team for almost 6 years yet he was constantly being invited and you're comfortable with that? Ok o kanu was still up and coming but westerhof called him up how many minutes and how many goals had he scored before he was invited?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 7:32pm On Jun 06, 2017
4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 which of these two formations would u prefer against SA??


For me,the 4-2-3-1 would be good. I wanna see Iwobi playing the no.10 role just behind Iheanacho. Iwobi doesn't play like a typical winger to me
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by OMANBALA1: 8:11pm On Jun 06, 2017
goldfish80:

Kayode have been the highest scoring Nigerian player in Europe for 2 seasons in a row. He's a super talent who haven't been given an opportunity at the top level.
He's a lot like Mane. Any good talent spotter will see that.

Kayode is a super talent in a lowly rated Austrian league. If so,then Nwakaeme is equally a super talent...Personally,I rate Israeli league above the Austrian league.
He needs to move to a more competitive league like the Netherlands,Belgium or even Russia.
If he remains in Austria young bloods like Osimhen and Orji will displace him.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by OMANBALA1: 8:13pm On Jun 06, 2017
goldfish80:

Yes. Same Austria Mane was poached from. Kayode hae scored more goals than Mane did at Austria, you can do that maths.

But Mane is a Liverpool player today. Let Kayode move.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:31pm On Jun 06, 2017
goldfish80:

I highlighted his exploits over the 2 seasons to indicate he's not a watered down talent in comparison to Kelechi and Osimhen like someone was trying to us believe. Because he haven't had a shot at bugger league shouldn't be used to measure how talented he actually is.

Osimhen, Kelechi and Kayode are team mates. No one is running down any. We might have preference but they are Super Eagles players with common goals.

I do not think anyone expects a watered down talent in any role.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:36pm On Jun 06, 2017
goldfish80:

If Alaba and Mane were discovered in Austria not so long ago, it clearly should indicate to you that the league is coming in leap and bound.
The fact that Redbull recognised the potential there and decided to invest heavily in the Austrian market by their ownership of Redbull salzburg should tell you something. Even top. German managers like Ralph Ragnic, Otmar Hitzfield and Roger Shmidt have all worked in Austria.

Go watch how Austra Vienna destroyed As Roma, you will get the gist about the tremendous growth currently witnessed in Austria.

Should I give a list of stars in the La Liga, EPL, Serie A and Bundesliga for you to understand the gap in the quality of these leagues to Austria? All I am saying is do not make being the top scorer in Austria such a big deal. The competition is far less there.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 8:45pm On Jun 06, 2017
OMANBALA1:


Kayode is a super talent in a lowly rated Austrian league. If so,then Nwakaeme is equally a super talent...Personally,I rate Israeli league above the Austrian league.
He needs to move to a more competitive league like the Netherlands,Belgium or even Russia.
If he remains in Austria young bloods like Osimhen and Orji will displace him.


I will assume you were busy when you typed this. when you are less busy, take a cold water bath to relax your mind then come online and read this stuff you just typed and you will realise how crazy it sounds. Israeli league is better than the Austrian league? can you name four teams in the Israeli league without the aid of Google?

and yes, Nwakeme is equally good, why these two guys are left out for players like Oshimen is what we are complaining about
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:46pm On Jun 06, 2017
Danielnino00:
4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 which of these two formations would u prefer against SA??


For me,the 4-2-3-1 would be good. I wanna see Iwobi playing the no.10 role just behind Iheanacho. Iwobi doesn't play like a typical winger to me

I will wait for results from camp before making my suggested list but I think we will play a 4-2-3-1 formation.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 8:46pm On Jun 06, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


Should I give a list of stars in the La Liga, EPL, Serie A and Bundesliga for you to understand the gap in the quality of these leagues to Austria? All I am saying is do not make being the top scorer in Austria such a big deal. The competition is far less there.

do you even understand the point the guy is trying to pass across?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Napoleon55(m): 8:51pm On Jun 06, 2017
forgiveness:


Ayaaaa! Chai! There's God ooooooo! cry cry

Some have to work ×5 while some get it on a plata of gold with free allowances on top. There's God ooooooo! cry cry

No wonder I keep hearing the bias and deceitful advice 'let him work harder (×20 and until he grows grey hair) he will be noticed' while others are getting called on a plata of gold. Chai! There's God ooooooo. cry cry grin

that's life for you,there is nothing strange here,life itself is not fair,some are born with silver spoon while some are born with kpako spoon.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:52pm On Jun 06, 2017
Mickael2:


do you even understand the point the guy is trying to pass across?

Pass which point?

He said because Austria Vienna beat Roma, we should take the league seriously. I disagree because the point is that the competition in the league for the top goal scoring position is weak. So a team doing well does not change the fact.

So please, tell me the point he was passing across that changes the fact that the Austrian leagueis weak.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 8:54pm On Jun 06, 2017
I came across the squad list of our *bredas* from the former Gold Coast, I couldn't help but feel pity for them. They really are passing through a rough patch presently. They badly are in dearth of super talents unlike their West African neighbors like ; Senegal, Nigeria, Cote d'ivore et al.


Ghana squad

Goalkeepers:

Richard Ofori (Wa Allstars); Adam Kwarasey
(Brondby, Denmark); Felix Annan (Kotoko);
Joseph Addo (Aduana Stars)
Defenders:
Harrison Afful (Columbus Crew, USA); Daniel
Amartey (Leicester City, England); Lumor
Agbenyenu (Munich 1860, Germany); Daniel
Darkwah (Aduana Stars, Ghana); John Boye
(Sivasspor, Turkey); Rashid Sumalia (Al Gharafa,
Qatar); Nicholas Opoku (B.Chelsea, Ghana);
Jonathan Mensah (Columbus Crew, USA); Jerry
Akaminko (Eskiserhispor, Turkey); Samuel Sarfo
(Liberty, Ghana)

Midfielders:

Mohammed Abu (Columbus Crew, USA); Afriyie
Acquah (Torino, Italy); Isaac Sackey
(Alanyaspor, Turkey); Thomas Partey (Atletico
Madrid, Spain); Ebenezer Ofori (Stuttgart,
Germany); Kingsley Sarfo (Sirius, Sweden);
Winful Cobbinah (Hearts of Oak); Yaw Yeboah
(FC Twente, Holland); Godsway Donyoh
(Nordjaelland, Denmark); Andre Ayew (West
Ham, England); Frank Acheampong (Anderlecht,
Belgium); Thomas Agyepong (NAC Breda,
Holland)

Forwards:

Asamoah Gyan (Al Alhi, UAE); Jordan Ayew
(Swansea City, England); Majeed Waris (Lorient
FC, France); Raphael Dwamena (FC Zurich,
Switzerland)
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:57pm On Jun 06, 2017
” What do you need to succeed in Europe?, good work ethics, skills, mental strength and focus. Osimhen has it all, he only needs some little bit of fine tuning and body strength. He will be a big hit in Germany just like Iheanacho in England”, he told Owngoalnigeria.com.
” I trained both players at U-17 level, they are different in a way but similar in front of goal. Over the years we have as a nation produced real quality players who can survive in any league, if given the necessary support and training (aka Drills wink).”... Emmanuel Amunike.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 8:59pm On Jun 06, 2017
ChrisKels:
I came across the squad list of our *bredas* from the former Gold Coast, I couldn't help but feel pity for them. They really are passing through a rough patch presently. They badly are in dearth of super talents unlike their West African neighbors like ; Senegal, Nigeria, Cote d'ivore et al.


Ghana squad

Goalkeepers:

Richard Ofori (Wa Allstars); Adam Kwarasey
(Brondby, Denmark); Felix Annan (Kotoko);
Joseph Addo (Aduana Stars)
Defenders:
Harrison Afful (Columbus Crew, USA); Daniel
Amartey (Leicester City, England); Lumor
Agbenyenu (Munich 1860, Germany); Daniel
Darkwah (Aduana Stars, Ghana); John Boye
(Sivasspor, Turkey); Rashid Sumalia (Al Gharafa,
Qatar); Nicholas Opoku (B.Chelsea, Ghana);
Jonathan Mensah (Columbus Crew, USA); Jerry
Akaminko (Eskiserhispor, Turkey); Samuel Sarfo
(Liberty, Ghana)

Midfielders:

Mohammed Abu (Columbus Crew, USA); Afriyie
Acquah (Torino, Italy); Isaac Sackey
(Alanyaspor, Turkey); Thomas Partey (Atletico
Madrid, Spain); Ebenezer Ofori (Stuttgart,
Germany); Kingsley Sarfo (Sirius, Sweden);
Winful Cobbinah (Hearts of Oak); Yaw Yeboah
(FC Twente, Holland); Godsway Donyoh
(Nordjaelland, Denmark); Andre Ayew (West
Ham, England); Frank Acheampong (Anderlecht,
Belgium); Thomas Agyepong (NAC Breda,
Holland)

Forwards:

Asamoah Gyan (Al Alhi, UAE); Jordan Ayew
(Swansea City, England); Majeed Waris (Lorient
FC, France); Raphael Dwamena (FC Zurich,
Switzerland)

Our Bredas are just going through a phase with less talent coming through. We have been there before. They are still strong.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 8:59pm On Jun 06, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


Pass which point?

He said because Austria Vienna beat Roma, we should take the league seriously. I disagree because the point is that the competition in the league for the top goal scoring position is weak. So a team doing well does not change the fact.

So please, tell me the point he was passing across that changes the fact that the Austrian leagueis weak.

What he is saying is simple. Mane came from the Austrian league and took the premier league by storm, I mean Liverpool couldn't win a match without him. Alaba for some is easily the best left back in the game and he came from the Austrian league so that tells me and you that their league is great, he merely used the trashing of As Roma to point out the strength but what you are saying isn't even making sense

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 9:01pm On Jun 06, 2017
OMANBALA1:


Kayode is a super talent in a lowly rated Austrian league. If so,then Nwakaeme is equally a super talent...Personally,I rate Israeli league above the Austrian league.
He needs to move to a more competitive league like the Netherlands,Belgium or even Russia.
If he remains in Austria young bloods like Osimhen and Orji will displace him.

Staying in Austria isn't entirely up to him. Transfers don't just happen at the players wish.
Certain things need to be in place before a transfer could happen.
For instance, being a non EU player with zero caps for the national team could prove to be a transfer bottle neck for him. You have to factor some of these things.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:04pm On Jun 06, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


I will wait for results from camp before making my suggested list but I think we will play a 4-2-3-1 formation.

You do not need any results from camp to know that Rohr typically prefers starting off with a 4-2-3-1 formation.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Napoleon55(m): 9:05pm On Jun 06, 2017
tglobal:


Yes. He is the coach and the buck ends at his table. If the team fails, he will be the one who loses his job, not the players selected or ignored. If the ignored players are that ood, they have nothing to lose as a new coach will call them up. Players also don't need their national teams to be successful (George Weah, Ibrahimovich Litmanen etc come to mind). I dont know why this is hard to understand

And by the way, people are appointed to exercise their judgment in certain matters. That is what leaders do. Let's give them the chance to do that. If you become a coach, not everyone who is aligned with you in this current argument will agree with your decisions as well as many will seem irrational. That is why you don't have 2 people with equal powers leading any organization. Someone needs to exercise their own judgment, so they can take responsibility for whatever comes along.

The cameroonian coach took a 38 year old Milla to the world cup against the wishes of many in 1990.
gbam,u can try but u would be wasting ur time. some will never accept this fact. Rohr is d one in change,if he feels a certain player does not fit to his plans that can contribute to d success of his team,he has the right not to invite such player and goes for the ones he need

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