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Re: I Need A Professional Advice N Mechanic Please by AutoElectNG: 8:52pm On Jun 06, 2017 |
mayor2013: My personal vehicle has hit 200,000 miles, and I still use 5w30 and will use it till the engine grenades itself. But you can teach me why I shouldn't. I am very open-minded and will consider your suggestions on the basis of its merits. I know people who have used the same oil weight to 500,000 miles 1 Like |
Re: I Need A Professional Advice N Mechanic Please by mayor2013: 9:02pm On Jun 06, 2017 |
AutoElectNG: This suggests why you want to check a ghost service history. Don't gamble on this sir |
Re: I Need A Professional Advice N Mechanic Please by AutoElectNG: 9:22pm On Jun 06, 2017 |
mayor2013: Back up your position with facts. 5w30 flows better than 20w50 because it is thinner, hence better fuel economy. 20w50 does not flow as well as 5w30 because it is thicker, hence worse fuel economy. Why condemn the OP to 20w50 without thorough analysis that proves that is a wise decision? Not all high mileage engines are condemned to run 20w50! What of protection when it matters most at startup? Everything is give an take - which is more important - greater oil film thickness or flow (how quickly it gets to protect moving parts)? To me flow matters more than film strength unless the engine is certified worn, then the decision will be different. I know how to check service history for American used vehicles, I just confirmed to a guy who was worried, if ever his timing belt was changed down to the date and the mileage, same for the coolant, the shocks, and a lot more. I can pull up the same data for the OP May I know which ghost you have in mind? Sir? Thank you. 2 Likes |
Re: I Need A Professional Advice N Mechanic Please by mayor2013: 9:51pm On Jun 06, 2017 |
AutoElectNG: The internet is different from the field of play. |
Re: I Need A Professional Advice N Mechanic Please by AutoElectNG: 2:54am On Jun 07, 2017 |
mayor2013: -I know what is driving you, my post that provided official proof that you did not do your homework well. |
Re: I Need A Professional Advice N Mechanic Please by AutoElectNG: 3:50am On Jun 07, 2017 |
AmandaLuv, it is up to you who you listen to. Here is third party explanation for the position that oil is critical to the behavior of the VVT system, and therefore by mandating that we start this fix from the point of view of running the correct oil, I have not deviated for engineering and scientific principles. Although the system is party electrical and partly mechanic, without oil which takes care of the hydraulic angle, everything falls apart. As the link I will provide proves, it is not just any oil, it has to be oil of the correct viscosity, which translates to the manufacturer's recommendation which translate to 5W30 in your case. Here are excerpts to help you make up you appreciate where my recommendation so far comes from:
Observation: Your engine is particularly prone to sludge by the way! Observation: This is standard practice in more than one service location. I am not an exception, its the simple things first, not the complex things first. Some shops even go further to check for sludge formation, I have not ruled that out for your ride either. Why conduct invasive surgery without ruling out everything else? Note: Instead of rushing into electrical or mechanical issues, I made you realize that oil, the correct oil is pivotal to a perfectly functional VVT system, so that if and when the system is fixed, the repair will stand the test of time. Secondly, I did not try to talk above you, it is your vehicle afterall, so I made sure to carry you along and made sure that you at least appreciated if not understood the fix I proposed. Observation: You are in business for profit, would you knowing carry coins in a bag with a hole? If your answer is no, why use an oil that robes your vehicle of fuel economy. 20w50 is fine if you are racing the vehicle at 110MPH day in day out, but you are not, there is just no justification for 20w50 at this time. Observation: Done that for you already, use 5w30! Source: http://www.underhoodservice.com/video-fuel-pump-filters-current/ Although they do not mention the exact code you have, it does not take away from the fact that the use of the correct type of oil is a must for proper operation of the VVT system. There are at least two guys on this forum who have constituted themselves into opposition parties in relation to me because I had cause to call them out, and so that must be borne in mind when considering their points of view, they have an axe to grind and they can't even disguise it, until they do away with that bias, take everything they say with a grain of salt. Anyone who has an alternative point of view is welcome to state it but provide proof why it should be that way, instead of blanket sweeping statements without basis. 5 Likes |
Re: I Need A Professional Advice N Mechanic Please by captainking(m): 11:30am On Jun 07, 2017 |
AmandaLuv:nah.. It only solved the cylinders misfire.. File guzzling should relate to your other codes.. |
Re: I Need A Professional Advice N Mechanic Please by emmaak2(m): 2:35pm On Jun 07, 2017 |
AutoElectNG: THEN IS IT ADVISABLE FOR 2001 CAMRY DRIVEN FOR 5YRS WITH 20W50 TO BE CHANGE TO 5W20? |
Re: I Need A Professional Advice N Mechanic Please by erico2k2(m): 8:13pm On Jun 07, 2017 |
AmandaLuv:Still, it aint that new loads of things needed changing, Injectors fuel filters suspensions water pump timing belt the list goes on unless these where done B4 the car was imported |
Re: I Need A Professional Advice N Mechanic Please by AutoElectNG: 2:11am On Jun 08, 2017 |
emmaak2: Seen. Will revert with a response. But I will need to get answers to some questions from you as well |
Re: I Need A Professional Advice N Mechanic Please by AutoElectNG: 2:12am On Jun 08, 2017 |
Re: I Need A Professional Advice N Mechanic Please by GAZZUZZ(m): 4:50am On Jun 08, 2017 |
AmandaLuv: From all the long chatter I read in all the posts, I can deduce your engine has a sludge problem. I will not advice you to use the right weight of engine oil at this time 5w30, because it will shorten the lifespan of your engine There are 2 strainers on both banks of the cylinder, they allow oil flow to the VVTI solenoids, presently the one on bank 1. Is blocked, I will show you the location of both strainers once I get to the workshop at 9am. Remove both, have them cleaned. Change engine oil more regularly on shorter intervals to keep engine clean. In case I forget quote me. 1 Like |
Re: I Need A Professional Advice N Mechanic Please by ironheart(m): 5:28am On Jun 08, 2017 |
AutoElectNG:at our current temperature, 20w30 is ok. As long as he is not planning to visit Jos town. American spec use 5w30 because there temperature does drop fast. Wear n tears happen in the few minutes of an engine start. 20w50 is ok |
Re: I Need A Professional Advice N Mechanic Please by AutoElectNG: 7:07am On Jun 08, 2017 |
GAZZUZZ: I will help with the pictures and a how to guide Credits: http://au.toyotaownersclub.com/forums/topic/31918-diy-servicingchanging-oil-control-valve-ocv-filtersstrainers/ NOTE: Guide is for illustrative purposes. OP's vehicle is a V6, how to guide is for an i4, the exact same principles apply though. OP's vehicle looks more like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_Yw0tJS9cQ
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Re: I Need A Professional Advice N Mechanic Please by AutoElectNG: 7:11am On Jun 08, 2017 |
The solenoid at work See the difference between a known good and a known bad https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnbJ6-nc6Oo?list=LLLuK8C8YajMHNB-x7dCix3w
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Re: I Need A Professional Advice N Mechanic Please by AutoElectNG: 7:14am On Jun 08, 2017 |
As for the issue of loss of fuel economy along with P1349, I have checked every single case of this issue in an aftermarket database, it always comes along with a significant loss of fuel economy. So what you experience is normal in the light of the presence of that code. Presented above is the mechanical side of things! |
Re: I Need A Professional Advice N Mechanic Please by AutoElectNG: 7:15am On Jun 08, 2017 |
ironheart: Did you mean to say 20w30? Or something else? Thanks by the way. |
Re: I Need A Professional Advice N Mechanic Please by ironheart(m): 7:19am On Jun 08, 2017 |
AutoElectNG:I mean 20w50 |
Re: I Need A Professional Advice N Mechanic Please by AmandaLuv(f): 9:39am On Jun 08, 2017 |
GAZZUZZ:Thank u so much engineer GAZZUZZ. Please is this mechanical or electrical problem? Who is to fix it? The selonoid what will they clean it with? No need to buy a new one? Sorry for too many questions. I await the location of the strainer u talked about. |
Re: I Need A Professional Advice N Mechanic Please by AmandaLuv(f): 9:42am On Jun 08, 2017 |
AutoElectNG:Thanks alot sir. A journey of 8 mile gulps upto 4 litres of fuel. Loss of fuel is hugely significant. |
Re: I Need A Professional Advice N Mechanic Please by GAZZUZZ(m): 2:34pm On Jun 08, 2017 |
AmandaLuv: This is Not DIY for you, please show pics to your mechanic.
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Re: I Need A Professional Advice N Mechanic Please by emmaak2(m): 2:36pm On Jun 08, 2017 |
AutoElectNG: Am with you sir |
Re: I Need A Professional Advice N Mechanic Please by AmandaLuv(f): 2:53pm On Jun 08, 2017 |
GAZZUZZ:please is this strainer or solenoid? Is solenoid and strainer same thing? Wats the name of picture u sent me and wat do I tell d mech to do on it. U did not answer me if its mechanical or wat an electrician will do. Tnx for ur input. |
Re: I Need A Professional Advice N Mechanic Please by dannydevito(m): 3:03pm On Jun 08, 2017 |
happy with the response here but the level of expertise is way higher than what she can get except for two mechanics in that town.....she being a woman wont be taken serious by the average kazzeem cos they believe they know all if u are conversant with d town check aba road (oando fuel station) show them d pics and codes...... |
Re: I Need A Professional Advice N Mechanic Please by GAZZUZZ(m): 3:08pm On Jun 08, 2017 |
AmandaLuv: I am still uploading pics
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Re: I Need A Professional Advice N Mechanic Please by AmandaLuv(f): 5:30pm On Jun 08, 2017 |
GAZZUZZ:OK sir. Will dat be all? |
Re: I Need A Professional Advice N Mechanic Please by GAZZUZZ(m): 5:32pm On Jun 08, 2017 |
Re: I Need A Professional Advice N Mechanic Please by AmandaLuv(f): 6:03pm On Jun 08, 2017 |
GAZZUZZ:I'm so grateful sir for ur time and efforts. God bless u real good. Plz one more thing, the strainer is it to be cleaned dry or with solvent like carberator cleaner? God bless u real good sir. |
Re: I Need A Professional Advice N Mechanic Please by GAZZUZZ(m): 8:03pm On Jun 08, 2017 |
AmandaLuv: Replacing would have been ideal. Unfortunately you will not fint it to buy in your area, so just bath it in carb cleaner ![]() 1 Like |
Re: I Need A Professional Advice N Mechanic Please by AutoElectNG: 9:19pm On Jun 08, 2017 |
Thank you Gazzuzz! I can always count on you!! 2 Likes |
Re: I Need A Professional Advice N Mechanic Please by GAZZUZZ(m): 9:52pm On Jun 08, 2017 |
Re: I Need A Professional Advice N Mechanic Please by AutoElectNG: 10:13pm On Jun 08, 2017 |
I kept asking for the VIN to take a look at the full service history of the vehicle To answer the question how well taken care of (or how badly abused) was it, and to catch other problems before they manifest but I never got. When one has to diagnose a vehicle sight unseen, the more the information shared, the better There is no substitute for physical inspection, but if you share as much information as possible, the clearest picture of the state of the vehicle emerges, distance notwithstanding. When the issue is resolved do report back to the forum. Cheers. |
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