Penboy:


Reading for 13hours is the easiest route for failure in medical school.
You must read Atleast 19-20hours daily if you must remain in medical school.

I will bet my life that there are people who barely study and still make it. Know yourself and apply yourself according to the level of your abilities.

tensazangetsu20:

I will bet my life that there are people who barely study and still make it. Know yourself and apply yourself according to the level of your abilities.

Hmmm...
Boss, this is medical school.
Barely sturdy??

Penboy:


Reading for 13hours is the easiest route for failure in medical school.
You must read Atleast 19-20hours daily if you must remain in medical school.

nor go give pipo children hypertension o.
The bottom line is "O man know thyself". What worked for others might not work for you.. find out what work for you. I usually advice 2hours everyday.

Penboy:


Hmmm...
Boss, this is medical school.
Barely sturdy??

And so? Medical school does not mean death... Yes hard work and most importantly SMART WORK it is but which one be study 19-20hrs? Even your brain will be fatigued after 4hrs of straight jacking

Ekpekus:

nor go give pipo children hypertension o.
The bottom line is "O man know thyself". What worked for others might not work for you.. find out what work for you. I usually advice 2hours everyday.

Haha...
2 hours everyday?
For real?

Penboy:

Haha...
2 hours everyday?
For real?

Yep, for real

Penboy:
Haha... 2 hours everyday? For real?

I find this hard to believe sha

hellohgy:

I find this hard to believe sha

Don't mind em jare. One page of "Keith moore'' that can take someone 30mins to assimilate.

Penboy:


Reading for 13hours is the easiest route for failure in medical school.
You must read Atleast 19-20hours daily if you must remain in medical school.

19-20 hours? this is impossible. do you go to classes at all? the only time you can do something close to this is when you have free time to read for boards.

when I first read this I thought Dr Abdulmalik was on NL. that's a brilliant piece. he took a class before. He's certainly a brilliant man no doubt. the last class I enjoyed like that was Prof MT Shokunbi.

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Jozprecious:
when I first read this I thought Dr Abdulmalik was on NL. that's a brilliant piece. he took a class before. He's certainly a brilliant man no doubt. the last class I enjoyed like that was Prof MT Shokunbi.

Joseph precious...2K17??

Dr Jubril Abdulmalik, thank u for this wonderful piece
Thanks for being one of those outstanding consultants/lecturers in UCH

shegestiga:


Joseph precious...2K17??

shegestica aye

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Irshittabey:

you are my role model

Honestly? You need and deserve a better one
-student-wise
Good luck!

Very wonderful piece..was really interested in the story the moment he mentioned how he left engineering school to pursue his dreams and didn't even tell his folks..Weldon sir

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See the way people are overhyping MBBS...
Engineering students suffer alot..Imagine having 10 straight hours of lectures per day and you still have to read and do practical, workshop practice....

In my 200L second semester,I offered courses in all engineering department i.e 8 bulky courses..
The smallest textbook out of these courses have (1040 page that was Electronics engineering by Hughes)..That means we finished 8 bulky courses within 3months while MBBS students have solid 1 year for just 3 courses...
To be sincere, this two courses are difficult but Engineering is more demanding..coupled with stress and alot of workshop practice...

I respect doctors alot Sha ..

yusman14:
See the way people are overhyping MBBS...
Engineering students suffer alot..Imagine having 10 straight hours of lectures per day and you still have to read and do practical, workshop practice....

In my 200L second semester,I offered courses in all engineering department i.e 8 bulky courses..
The smallest textbook out of these courses have (1040 page that was Electronics engineering by Hughes)..That means we finished 8 bulky courses within 3months while MBBS students have solid 1 year for just 3 courses...
To be sincere, this two courses are difficult but Engineering is more demanding..coupled with stress and alot of workshop practice...

I respect doctors alot Sha ..

Oga, it's not competition!

Overhyping you say? Okay let me give you a bit of the stress we go through in med school. In the pre-clinical class yes we study just 3 courses in 18 months. But those courses are not mere courses; they are biochemistry, Physiology and Anatomy. And u know Anatomy is like 3 courses in 1:- Gross Anatomy, Embryology and Histology. And the Gross Anatomy has it own sub-sections - Upper and lower limbs, Thorax and Abdomen, Head and Neck, etc. You know normal anatomy and physiology students spend 4 years to study these basic medical science courses. So you can say we use just 18 months to study courses of 4 years.

What about the numerous tests, steeple chase, etc. we write almost every week? And the 2nd MBBS exam we write at the end of the pre-clinical classes. We use just 1 week to write this exam. We write each paper each day. So we use only a night to revise something we did for 1 year.

Not to talk of the viva (oral) part of the exam with the tension, fear, etc. medical students have for it.
And this is just the tip of the iceberg o. There are also 3rd MBBS, 4th MBBS and 5th MBBS exams where you have to write the core clinical courses like O&G, Pediatrics, Medicine, Surgery, etc.
Oga, you can't compare the difficulty of Medicine to that of Engineering. The comparison should be between Medicine and Pharmacy instead.

I have a lot of friends that are Engineering students and Engineers, and I respect them so much.

Uniquely:

Oga, it's not competition!

Overhyping you say? Okay let me give you a bit of the stress we go through in med school. In the pre-clinical class yes we study just 3 courses in 18 months. But those courses are not mere courses; they are biochemistry, Physiology and Anatomy. And u know Anatomy is like 3 courses in 1:- Gross Anatomy, Embryology and Histology. And the Gross Anatomy has it own sub-sections - Upper and lower limbs, Thorax and Abdomen, Head and Neck, etc. You know normal anatomy and physiology students spend 4 years to study these basic medical science courses. So you can say we use just 18 months to study courses of 4 years.

What about the numerous tests, steeple chase, etc. we write almost every week? And the 2nd MBBS exam we write at the end of the pre-clinical classes. We use just 1 week to write this exam. We write each paper each day. So we use only a night to revise something we did for 1 year.

Not to talk of the viva (oral) part of the exam with the tension, fear, etc. medical students have for it.
And this is just the tip of the iceberg o. There are also 3rd MBBS, 4th MBBS and 5th MBBS exams where you have to write the core clinical courses like O&G, Pediatrics, Medicine, Surgery, etc.
Oga, you can't compare the difficulty of Medicine to that of Engineering. The comparison should be between Medicine and Pharmacy instead.

I have a lot of friends that are Engineering students and Engineers, and I respect them so much.

Fantastic!!
It is not a matter of competition but I want you to know that Engineering courses too have sub-sections i.e Engineering mechanics is sub divided into;Statics(for first semester)
And Dynamics (for second semester) and it is damn broad...This is just one course oooo out of 8...
I salute the fact that you guys do write your MBBS exam per year .It is not easy because one can get easily forget some stuff or get stranded.....

As I said earlier,both courses are demanding and I can't say one is tougher than the other....
Please note that; Technology can change but science can never change (Think about this)...

Ok,The human anatomy is still the same it can never change ..the same organ that is in Adam's body is the same organ in your body...
That means I can know everything about human body but I can never know everything about technology and Engineering because it is alterating...
And human problem keep increasing everyday...
This makes Engineering to be more demanding bro....

Hope you grab??
This is not debate or competition..
Thanks.

yusman14:
Fantastic!!
It is not a matter of competition but I want you to know that Engineering courses too have sub-sections i.e Engineering mechanics is sub divided into;Statics(for first semester)
And Dynamics (for second semester) and it is damn broad...This is just one course oooo out of 8...
I salute the fact that you guys do write your MBBS exam per year .It is not easy because one can get easily forget some stuff or get stranded.....

As I said earlier,both courses are demanding and I can't say one is tougher than the other....
Please note that; Technology can change but science can never change (Think about this)...

Ok,The human anatomy is still the same it can never change ..the same organ that is in Adam's body is the same organ in your body...
That means I can know everything about human body but I can never know everything about technology and Engineering because it is alterating...
And human problem keep increasing everyday...
This makes Engineering to be more demanding bro....

Hope you grab??
This is not debate or competition..
Thanks.

Science cannot change you say?�
Let me tell you, no one can ever know everything there is in the human body except God! Scientists and Doctors just know more compared to the common man. Medicine is actively changing. We are continuously finding new diseases, new group of cells, new surgical procedures, new mechanisms, etc. Even the basic cell as microscopic as it is, there are more than a billion things going on in it, and Scientists don't know all , they only know a little more. That is why they will always write in medical textbooks "the mechanism remains unknown". So they are actively researching, testing to know more. Wasn't it just the previous century that Watson and Crick successfully defined the structure of the DNA? And Wasn't it just last year a group of physiologists properly defined the mechanism of response of cells to hypoxia, and won Nobel prize for it?

Guy, medicine is actively changing. Let me come back to something familiar- Wasn't it not December last year scientist discovered the covid-19 virus after mutating twice, and uptil now the cure hasn't been found? Guess what- they have to update the old pathology textbooks to include the Covid-19 disease, its pathogenesis, signs, symptoms, etc.

So you see, you can't say Medicine or Anatomy will always remain the same. And no one can know everything about the human body, not even our Profs nor the great Ben Carson. They can only know all what have been researched and taught them.

Uniquely:

Science cannot change you say?�
Let me tell you, no one can ever know everything there is in the human body except God! Scientists and Doctors just know more compared to the common man. Medicine is actively changing. We are continuously finding new diseases, new group of cells, new surgical procedures, new mechanisms, etc. Even the basic cell as microscopic as it is, there are more than a billion things going on in it, and Scientists don't know all , they only know a little more. That is why they will always write in medical textbooks "the mechanism remains unknown". So they are actively researching, testing to know more. Wasn't it just the previous century that Watson and Crick successfully defined the structure of the DNA? And Wasn't it just last year a group of physiologists properly defined the mechanism of response of cells to hypoxia, and won Nobel prize for it?

Guy, medicine is actively changing. Let me come back to something familiar- Wasn't it not December last year scientist discovered the covid-19 virus after mutating twice, and uptil now the cure hasn't been found? Guess what- they have to update the old pathology textbooks to include the Covid-19 disease, its pathogenesis, signs, symptoms, etc.

So you see, you can't say Medicine or Anatomy will always remain the same. And no one can know everything about the human body, not even our Profs nor the great Ben Carson. They can only know all what have been researched and taught them.

I concur with you..But also know that advancement in Engineering leads to advancement in other areas like medicine...The rate at which technology is changing is relatively higher than the rate at which diseases are emerging...

Though medicine has been in existence since life begins and it is the oldest form of science....

Both courses are fantastic and they both have their challenges in one way or the other...If we should continue giving the fact why one is tougher than its counterpart then this thread will reach page 1000....lol
There is alot to argue on about this two courses..
I learnt somethings from you..I gained also... thanks docki

yusman14:
I concur with you..But also know that advancement in Engineering leads to advancement in other areas like medicine...The rate at which technology is changing is relatively higher than the rate at which diseases are emerging...

Though medicine has been in existence since life begins and it is the oldest form of science....

Both courses are fantastic and they both have their challenges in one way or the other...If we should continue giving the fact why one is tougher than its counterpart then this thread will reach page 1000....lol
There is alot to argue on about this two courses..
I learnt somethings from you..I gained also... thanks docki

Yes, very true! And I don't have much knowledge about Engineering, I can only talk about that of Medicine.

I was just bored. This Corona virus pandemic coupled with the indefinite ASUU strike really disrupted my plans.

Thank you very much for this sir.

yusman14:
See the way people are overhyping MBBS...
Engineering students suffer alot..Imagine having 10 straight hours of lectures per day and you still have to read and do practical, workshop practice....

In my 200L second semester,I offered courses in all engineering department i.e 8 bulky courses..
The smallest textbook out of these courses have (1040 page that was Electronics engineering by Hughes)..That means we finished 8 bulky courses within 3months while MBBS students have solid 1 year for just 3 courses...
To be sincere, this two courses are difficult but Engineering is more demanding..coupled with stress and alot of workshop practice...

I respect doctors alot Sha ..

Engine students should engage in discourse also. It might seem that everywhere you go it's medicine this medicine that but sometimes it's just that they're the only ones interacting with each other and others from other fields.

SirWarlock:
Engine students should engage in discourse also. It might seem that everywhere you go it's medicine this medicine that but sometimes it's just that they're the only ones interacting with each other and others from other fields.

Whatever..

I am unreservedly grateful for this wonderful piece you put together. It might have taken you days to produce this amidst your many other daily cares. I must say you also have a calling for motivational writing (as it is evidence in my case of reading this write up). I in a way towed your part by delving into a course that did not make me happy. I spent 2 years studying information and communication technologies in the university. I was doing quite well in my grades within those years but surprisingly quit school for no just reason. I had always been excited about studying medicine and surgery. I sat for JAMB twice and failed to meet the required cut off for admission into medicine and surgery in my post UME. I thought I was running out of time (age) and decided to accept an admission into ICT studies. I did not struggle much with my courses, yet I was surprised that I just lost interest in the course and left school. I am now 34 years old and still want to go back to school. But my mind is still all over studying medicine and surgery. I am married with 3 kids already. My wife just finished her second (masters) degree and is about to pursue her PHD. We have the resources to spare and I have strong desire to study the workings of the human systems. I am encouraged rather than scared by your write up. I love the challenges as they create lots of adventures to unravel. I did not stumble over this write up by chance. I was actually searching for the expectations and how to cope with a medical school in Nigeria. Now I have a clue and it is worth giving a try. Thanks doctor.

yusman14:
Fantastic!!
It is not a matter of competition but I want you to know that Engineering courses too have sub-sections i.e Engineering mechanics is sub divided into;Statics(for first semester)
And Dynamics (for second semester) and it is damn broad...This is just one course oooo out of 8...
I salute the fact that you guys do write your MBBS exam per year .It is not easy because one can get easily forget some stuff or get stranded.....

As I said earlier,both courses are demanding and I can't say one is tougher than the other....
Please note that; Technology can change but science can never change (Think about this)...

Ok,The human anatomy is still the same it can never change ..the same organ that is in Adam's body is the same organ in your body...
That means I can know everything about human body but I can never know everything about technology and Engineering because it is alterating...
And human problem keep increasing everyday...
This makes Engineering to be more demanding bro....

Hope you grab??
This is not debate or competition..
Thanks.

I understand you aren't in a debate, but then, I'd agree with him that medicine is tougher than engineering. You know why?
Engineering is already subdivided into different branches that you pick from and specialize just from the UG years. There's mechanical, chemical, civil, etc. That is not the case for medicine; it is in their post graduate studies they specialize.
Maybe you can say engineering is tougher when the name of the course is "Engineering" and you have to study all the branches in 5 years and specialize after UG studies.
Secondly, your assertion that you offered 8 engineering courses with textbooks up to over a thousand pages is flawed, because, you can attest to the fact that you didn't read up that textbook entirely, in fact, not even up to a half of it. Each semester has it's course content and synopsis, so you study most times what you're taught. In fact, if you study just the lecture hand out your lecturer gives and solve past questions, you can score a great mark and earn at least a B; studying the textbook isn't a must, except for personal gratification. Most of these engineering textbooks are still in use at post graduate level.
I hope you understand my point

imustmakeit:
I understand you aren't in a debate, but then, I'd agree with him that medicine is tougher than engineering. You know why?
Engineering is already subdivided into different branches that you pick from and specialize just from the UG years. There's mechanical, chemical, civil, etc. That is not the case for medicine; it is in their post graduate studies they specialize.
Maybe you can say engineering is tougher when the name of the course is "Engineering" and you have to study all the branches in 5 years and specialize after UG studies.
Secondly, your assertion that you offered 8 engineering courses with textbooks up to over a thousand pages is flawed, because, you can attest to the fact that you didn't read up that textbook entirely, in fact, not even up to a half of it. Each semester has it's course content and synopsis, so you study most times what you're taught. In fact, if you study just the lecture hand out your lecturer gives and solve past questions, you can score a great mark and earn at least a B; studying the textbook isn't a must, except for personal gratification. Most of these engineering textbooks are still in use at post graduate level.
I hope you understand my point

Medicine is also sub-branched...the textbooks are for both semesters too...half for first semester while the other part in second semester...it depends on school though.. textbooks are very important in my school because sales of handouts is prohibited...it is not allowed...so we gat read from textbooks..

yusman14:
Medicine is also sub-branched...the textbooks are for both semesters too...half for first semester while the other part in second semester...it depends on school though.. textbooks are very important in my school because sales of handouts is prohibited...it is not allowed...so we gat read from textbooks..

how is medicine also sub-branched at the level of undergraduate..
let me give u a pix of wat medicine at the level of undergraduate means...imagine all the engineering causes (mechanical, chemical, civil e.t.c ) are merged to form a course called say GENERAL ENGINEERING.. this General engineering is what Medicine and surgery entails..in medicine u offer complete biochemistry, physiology, anatomy, medical microbiology , pharmacology( note these are Individual courses people study for 4years) then then u touch the whole branches of medicine and then surgery...
secondly, the MB exams is not just semester based, but u are asked questions from 2years' work including oral exams that u av just 10-15minute to proof that ur stuffs are still intact .now after undergraduate, there is an exam know as primaries, here u will b asked detailed questions from 200l wup to 600level..this continue and continue till u retire..
medicine may not be d most complex brain tasking course( I give dat to physics, maths and those aerospace guys) but medicine is unarguably the most cumbersome and bulkiest course requiring highest level of brain retaining capacity in the world

qwertie1234:

how is medicine also sub-branched at the level of undergraduate..
let me give u a pix of wat medicine at the level of undergraduate means...imagine all the engineering causes (mechanical, chemical, civil e.t.c ) are merged to form a course called say GENERAL ENGINEERING.. this General engineering is what Medicine and surgery entails..in medicine u offer complete biochemistry, physiology, anatomy, medical microbiology , pharmacology( note these are Individual courses people study for 4years) then then u touch the whole branches of medicine and then surgery...
secondly, the MB exams is not just semester based, but u are asked questions from 2years' work including oral exams that u av just 10-15minute to proof that ur stuffs are still intact .now after undergraduate, there is an exam know as primaries, here u will b asked detailed questions from 200l wup to 600level..this continue and continue till u retire..
medicine may not be d most complex brain tasking course( I give dat to physics, maths and those aerospace guys) but medicine is unarguably the most cumbersome and bulkiest course requiring highest level of brain retaining capacity in the world

wow!!

Any student experiences a lot of stress while studying. In higher education, the competition is much than in school. Students are trying to maintain their level and manage to learn a lot of information. For medical students, the stress is even more significant because they have more responsibility. Before applying, my parents asked me if I was ready for this kind of workload and really wanted to do it. We found the newest acceptance rates of medical schools, and I found my university. Frankly speaking, my family helps me to cope with stress. They support me even if I don't get the best result.