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Re: Men And Women Are Equal Fellow Nigerians Its Time To Accept This Fact by Nobody: 2:46pm On Jun 09, 2017 |
Re: Men And Women Are Equal Fellow Nigerians Its Time To Accept This Fact by rawgurl(f): 2:53pm On Jun 09, 2017 |
proudafrogal:are you a Christian ? |
Re: Men And Women Are Equal Fellow Nigerians Its Time To Accept This Fact by Nobody: 3:16pm On Jun 09, 2017 |
rawgurl:I used to be, I'm not anymore |
Re: Men And Women Are Equal Fellow Nigerians Its Time To Accept This Fact by NigerianScholar: 4:05pm On Jun 09, 2017 |
proudafrogal: I see your point. But, there is a good chance that his perception of you that you are weaker than he is is right. You should have just let him cut in front of you. And maybe...one day, when he jumps a queue. The atm will debit him without dispensing cash and swallow the card. My point is that you cant change the belief that men are physically stronger that women in general. And some men use that fact to bully women. You just have to live with it. If the man was stronger than you her which he most likely is and he had a kind of madness within him. Your story would have been one of those nairaland front page stories Eg. Woman bites off mans ear in an atm queue Or woman lands in hospital after being battered by a man You can end up being hositalised or arrested and youll only change the mind of one man. Other men will still be condescending towards women |
Re: Men And Women Are Equal Fellow Nigerians Its Time To Accept This Fact by NigerianScholar: 4:11pm On Jun 09, 2017 |
ilynem: Men and women are not equal. Biology and statistics prove this. In short, human beings are not equal You cant say these people are equal. Usain bolt, lim kardashian,dwayne johnson,michelle obama. Both genders generally have their strength and weaknesses. And according to the bolded. Imagine if all humans were of the same gender. Are you saying there wont be violence? If there was gender equality therll still be violence among us. Its simply human nature If its not gender based violence. The violence would be based on sth else like height ,complexion etc. My point is.... this world is bleeped up and we all have to deal with it. We cannot change it |
Re: Men And Women Are Equal Fellow Nigerians Its Time To Accept This Fact by Nobody: 4:22pm On Jun 09, 2017 |
NigerianScholar: I'm not the Op. all men do not think the same.I'm speaking for my self now I choose my battles and I know I will not win all all them. but I will not let him get off easily just because he owns a dick. I may not be physically stronger but I can fight my battles. changing the mindset of one man is enough he will go and preach the gospel. I don't believe in karma. I'm a master at revenge and manipulation. I have my strengths and weaknesses and I'm fine with it and use it to my advantage. 1 Like |
Re: Men And Women Are Equal Fellow Nigerians Its Time To Accept This Fact by NigerianScholar: 4:47pm On Jun 09, 2017 |
proudafrogal: |
Re: Men And Women Are Equal Fellow Nigerians Its Time To Accept This Fact by Nobody: 5:09pm On Jun 09, 2017 |
NigerianScholar:I don't get your point. humans share in equal humanity that's humanitarian ideology. we are one human race whether male or female, white or black that's my point. Of course among each individual some have strengths and weakness and some ass holes prey on the others weaknesses except you show them you cant be bullied. that's why today there is no slavery on a large scale as b4. women now vote and hold positions in government's. they can be doctors and engineers some centuries past they were prevented from all these. Men and women are different biologically but we are both human non is superior to another. 1 Like |
Re: Men And Women Are Equal Fellow Nigerians Its Time To Accept This Fact by NigerianScholar: 5:33pm On Jun 09, 2017 |
proudafrogal: |
Re: Men And Women Are Equal Fellow Nigerians Its Time To Accept This Fact by ilynem(m): 6:15pm On Jun 09, 2017 |
NigerianScholar:I know where your confusion is. You confuse a person with a being. As persons we have different but as beings we are equal in the sense that we are all humans. Bolt is probably a bigger person than me (that is still up for debate ![]() |
Re: Men And Women Are Equal Fellow Nigerians Its Time To Accept This Fact by ichuka(m): 8:24pm On Jun 09, 2017 |
Lifeislife:Same relevance the Bridegroom has with His Bride.you get?? |
Re: Men And Women Are Equal Fellow Nigerians Its Time To Accept This Fact by rawgurl(f): 8:30pm On Jun 09, 2017 |
proudafrogal:atheist ? ![]() |
Re: Men And Women Are Equal Fellow Nigerians Its Time To Accept This Fact by efficiencie(m): 8:51pm On Jun 09, 2017 |
Lifeislife: Men and women are equal...that is a laughable delusion taken far enough to border on outright insanity! If a man is equal to a woman then they will have the same genitals, the same frame, the same frailties, the same strengths, the same roles, the same challenges, the same socially ascribed privileges and the same realities...Hence a woman being equal to a man should not need a man for anything! This makes GOD look foolish for making men or evolution being an accident made an even more detrimental accident by allowing men coexist with women...Men are not equal to women and vice versa, both are uniquely different and complement eachother in socially functional ways! |
Re: Men And Women Are Equal Fellow Nigerians Its Time To Accept This Fact by efficiencie(m): 8:59pm On Jun 09, 2017 |
ilynem: It is funny you mentioned GOD! You really should not involve GOD in your clamor for gender equality because clearly this same GOD never agreed or agrees to it. Genesis 3:16 literally came out of the mouth of this same GOD and it clearly says "...and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee". So if you an ally of GOD you should not bring HIM into gender equality...you should probably ally yourself with the largely atheistic stance of evolution and you might have a moral backing for your gender equality position. |
Re: Men And Women Are Equal Fellow Nigerians Its Time To Accept This Fact by ilynem(m): 9:18pm On Jun 09, 2017 |
efficiencie:Hmmmm. I think you should stop quoting a book you don't understand. I already explained this here. Help yourself. The Bible doesn't say women should be submissive to men. It says a wife should be submissive to her husband. That doesn't make women inferior to men. When Adam fell, God cursed the woman in Gen 3 that the man shall rule over her. That's why in the old testament, women were seen as inferior. Their place was to be ruled by men. Men could have as many wives as possible because women were like property. |
Re: Men And Women Are Equal Fellow Nigerians Its Time To Accept This Fact by Nobody: 9:24pm On Jun 09, 2017 |
[quote author=NigerianScholar post=57357583][/quote] Mr man keep telling yourself women don't want to be doctors and engineers. My sister is a lover of football men are not the only ones who like sports. have 3 female cousins who are engineers and they choose for themselves. female doctors are like sand men and women can do the same work as long as they have strength for it. when I say equal I mean no gender should the marginalized or deprived based on gender. remove cultural and social barriers women want and desire those things you think they are not interested in. p.s. why do you keep inserting ur responses in my post. is it so that I can't quote you? 1 Like |
Re: Men And Women Are Equal Fellow Nigerians Its Time To Accept This Fact by efficiencie(m): 11:56pm On Jun 09, 2017 |
ilynem: The equality spoken of in that verse is spiritual. That verse speaks of the new creature which is not bound by the vagaries and differences of the flesh...that is why that verse goes on to say there are no jews, or greeks, bond or free...because these are physical dimensions not reckoned with in the life of a regenerated spirit...but when we come to the natural sphere these differences abound and were recognized by Paul in 1 Corinthians 7:18. Well, in your judgment my understanding of the bible is poor but do you understand the bible more or have access to the revelation of the word more than Paul who penned down: 1 Corinthians 14:34-35? My conclusion is that as a woman (after the flesh) you are subject to a man; your father or your husband, but as a new creature (after the spirit) you are subject to no one but God alone! |
Re: Men And Women Are Equal Fellow Nigerians Its Time To Accept This Fact by ilynem(m): 7:00am On Jun 10, 2017 |
efficiencie:Spiritual dimension you say? But the spiritual controls the physical. It is as clear as day in that passage. All beings in Christ are equal. The Jews used to think they were still a special people but Paul made them realise Christ changed that and all are seen as equal in his site. Also that passage is also clearly against slavery and misogyny. Those in Christ are to see everyone as equal whether race, gender or status. Knew you would throw 1 Corinthians 14 at my face. Again, stop trying to quote a book you don't understand. The church is Corinth was a disorganized one. Paul wanted orderliness in that church hence that passage. That verse was clearly meant for that particular church. Try reading the whole chapter sir. You will get a clearer perspective. That verse in no way suggests that women are inferior to men. |
Re: Men And Women Are Equal Fellow Nigerians Its Time To Accept This Fact by Lifeislife: 4:49pm On Jun 10, 2017 |
efficiencie: What does a woman need a man for? Are women not earning salaries, paying thier bills. |
Re: Men And Women Are Equal Fellow Nigerians Its Time To Accept This Fact by Lifeislife: 5:05pm On Jun 10, 2017 |
efficiencie: The only thing laughable is you are still stuck in your hut, when you decide to relocate from your village you will discover this is the twenty-first century. efficiencie: What does a woman need a man for? Are women not going to school, graduating? Earning salaries? There are Nigerian women refusing bride price because they don't want to be bought. In countries like America there is no bride price. In India its women that even pay the bride price. Please educate yourself. Are women not presidents, prime ministers? Women are paying for thier weddings, sometimes the couple split the wedding cost equally. It's low self-esteem women that want to depend on a man, most of those girls are happy to be baby mama's. Most of them have been raised to feel inferior to a man. They've been told they are not equal to thier brothers. They have been taught to depend on a man for everything. [/quote] |
Re: Men And Women Are Equal Fellow Nigerians Its Time To Accept This Fact by NigerianScholar: 5:06pm On Jun 10, 2017 |
proudafrogal: I insert my responses in your post because i like to adress each and every issue you make. Missing a point could be taken for uncertainty. I didnt say women dont want to be doctors,engineers etc. Ok, i can agree that a relevant amount of women do medicine. But i am talking about engineering and mathematics courses. I am not saying women dont do them. I am just saying how many. In a university find out how many percent of students in an engineering classroom are female. Im my university class. I studied computer science btw we had just 12 girls among 100+ boys I am not saying women dont like football. I am saying most of them dont like watching football. Minority do. Have you ever asked yourself why female football isnt as popular as the male version Man u, real madrid and other clubs have female teams. If you ask you sister to name them. I am preety much sure they wont be able to All the premier league and champions league competitions have female versions. Same for other sports |
Re: Men And Women Are Equal Fellow Nigerians Its Time To Accept This Fact by NigerianScholar: 5:09pm On Jun 10, 2017 |
ilynem: This is all i have been trying to say |
Re: Men And Women Are Equal Fellow Nigerians Its Time To Accept This Fact by efficiencie(m): 10:11pm On Jun 10, 2017 |
ilynem: Really!!! I applaud your impeccable understanding of the bible..you might as well have written it yourself! |
Re: Men And Women Are Equal Fellow Nigerians Its Time To Accept This Fact by efficiencie(m): 10:16pm On Jun 10, 2017 |
Lifeislife: Oh really! Well if men are not needed at all then evolution or GOD goofed terribly by creating an aberration called men...evolution or GOD also goofed seriously by ensuring that you were born by the union of a man and a woman and not the union of two women or a scientific experiment...I believe strongly you have a case against either evolution or GOD for making you bear the X chromosome from a man...you might as well seek redress at some court requesting that you be reborn as the clone of a woman or the result of intercourse between two women! |
Re: Men And Women Are Equal Fellow Nigerians Its Time To Accept This Fact by efficiencie(m): 11:25pm On Jun 10, 2017 |
Lifeislife: On 1 , low self esteem is not what makes women depend on men, it is the lack of power! There are men that are low on self esteem out there but they are not carrying this as a stamp on their foreheads and in their own way they find a way to survive in a world full of predators who really do not care if you are a man or a woman. What makes a woman depend on a man is her lackadaisical attitude towards wealth creation, poor IQ, greed and sometimes sheer stupidity and all these mean she is powerless and has little or nothing to bring to the table. A man with these traits will suffer the same fate as a woman with these traits, so i don't see how the pauperization of women is the fault of the men... On 2 , any girl happy to be a baby mama is exactly what you just called her a 'baby' mama, I mean an overgrown baby who became a mother...no woman in her right senses will accept such a demeaning title let alone allow herself become a glorified wh.ore whose worth is defined by her gen.italia. Girls in this category are often saucy, ill-mannered, with no respect for social values and no regard for the sanctity of marriage. These girls are the champions of unbridled hedonism and are among those ladies who believe they are in no way subject to the dictates of any man...any woman with respect for the marriage institution will not see her role in marriage as subjugation and neither will any man with the same respect see marriage as a license to a tyrannical lifestyle! On 3 our parents do their bit till their children enter into early adulthood (i.e the early 20s) where independent decision making becomes a norm among these, once upon a time, children! In the end we all are architects of our destinies and hence only a fool will, at such a defining moment in life, base his decisions entirely on the often erroneous beliefs of parents and family. That you are raised to be a failure does not mean you must accept to be failure and hence being raised to feel inferior is no justification to feel inferior for the rest of your life...so if a full grown woman feels inferior to a man after seeing the population of ladies in Universities or in top positions in the academia, politics and professional practice then it is the fault of no man... On 4 Funny!!! Look around you and see the teeming population of ladies who want a 'ready-made' man for a husband...were they taught to do that? Did someone sit them down and give them a lecture on how to depend on a man...in social interactions, people seek out ways to maximize their gains by availing well thought out stratagems and I believe strongly that a woman who depends on a man economically, intellectually, spiritually and otherwise must be doing so because she sees it as an opportunity to reap where she has not sowed and make a living out of doing nothing...these women do not need your sympathy and will most definitely reject your pity as I am pretty sure that they will be regale you with tales of Dubai shopping, holiday frolicking and the likes all at the expense of their man's wealth! The proverbs 31: 10-31 woman, the woman whose price is far above rubies, is not someone who sees her role as a wife as one that subjugates her to a man rather she sees it as an opportunity to gain her husband's trust, to surround her man with good tidings all the days of his life, to amass economic power and yet falter not in taking care of her household, to secure her household from uncertainty and win the admiration and praise of her children and husband! I am not ruling out the fact that there are some stupid men out there who give women the impression that all men are brute beasts who do not care for the social, economic, psychological and spiritual well being of women thus making women look like slaves serving task masters. Nevertheless I posit that there are men out their who realize the worth of a powerful woman who can handle the reins of responsibility when they, for any reason, falter and I belong to this category (Ecclesiastes 4:9-12). Submission is not subjugation as far as a real man is concerned...because submission is the consequence of love! It is expected to be a natural tendency for anyone to submit to those who love and cater for them 1 Corinthians 16: 15-16; Hebrews 13: 17...This means that even a woman can earn the submission of a man if that woman pays the price of love and vice versa. Hence, real men do not clamor with loud speakers for their wives to be submissive...they rather purchase the submission of their wives by loving them in the same manner Christ loved the church and gave His life for it (Ephesians 5: 25). |
Re: Men And Women Are Equal Fellow Nigerians Its Time To Accept This Fact by orunto27: 10:37am On Jun 11, 2017 |
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