jomonic:


All the long gibberish you put down here is very easy when you are not on the receiving end. Yes political positions is a game of numbers when it is based on a mutually agreed democratic systems. The Nigerian constitution which forms the basis of everything was crafted by the military government without the free input of all the diverse people that make up the nation. Evidently, those who are favoured by this status quo like yourself appear to be at peace. What you cannot deny other people who are aggrieved is their right to self determination. It is possible to attain self determination through formal processes where there are provisions for it in the constitution. Apparently this is not the case with Nigeria at present. That is why we will have to seek other ways to achieve it and that is the present agitation and conversations that we are having hoping to appeals to your dead consciences. We are mindful that oppressors never release their hold freely but they always do in the long run. Many nations have passed through more difficult oppression that the Igbo; even under more lethal opponents. I tell you my friend Nigeria never see anything.

Nobody is against your self determination your representatives in the national assembly should be bold enough to start the process, if truly you people are serious. Be informed that there will be 2 referendum, one by the South East whether they want Biafra or not and one by the North whether to allow the Igbos to stay in the North or not after Biafra. One thing is clear, you can never have the two.

Gotze1:
No, to your second person.

Kk... Now face your front.

How can you call this a country? When citizen are being evicted from certain region and yet they won't be allowed to have a country of their own. For so long the so called power holder from the north have been in the helm of affair of the Nigerian state, poverty, illiteracy, violence and disease is still a northern phenomenon

southpole:

Nobody is against your self determination your representatives in the national assembly should be bold enough to start the process, if truly you people are serious. Be informed that there will be 2 referendum, one by the South East whether they want Biafra or not and one by the North whether to allow the Igbos to stay in the North or not after Biafra. One thing is clear, you can never have the two.

Coveting properties of other people. How does it feel to wish your neighbours ill so you can acquire his properties. That is a very low state of human existence.

jomonic:


Coveting properties of other people. How does it feel to wish your neighbours ill so you can acquire his properties. That is a very low state of human existence.

In case you don't those properties were obtained with money from the North. The building blocks were made from the sand dug from the North. Have you read the story where the ibos ran to the emir of katsina for protection following the quit notice?

Kingsley1000:
WE IGBOS ARE GOING TO SUFFER IF EVENTUALLY BIAFRA IS ACTUALIZED...WE ARE UNDERDEVELOPED COURTESY OF OUR SELFISH GOVERNORS

For seeing the truth and also saying the truth God bless you abundantly.

Igboesika:


Hahaha. Those people are terrible. Everybody wants disintegration except afonjas. Afonjas can never stand for anything, they are always on the fence waiting for a ground that wl favour them to land. I am patiently waiting for 12th June to see the best thing that can come of it their topless protest if they won't pick race at the sight of police van.

COWARDS!!

Anyways, anything that will fast track disintegration is a welcome development.

hahaha see idiot north said u should leave u are here calling afonja, u don' t want to leave north again u are now the unity begger osu man.

southpole:

In case you don't those properties were obtained with money from the North. The building blocks were made from the sand dug from the North. Have you read the story where the ibos ran to the emir of katsina for protection following the quit notice?

That threat is an empty one. Please quit making reference to it. Even if you take those properties it will all turn to alma Jiri settlement before long. The sweat, discipline and hard work that produced it is peculiar to the owners. Please keep quiet.

mekuzi09:
See them running their mouth up and down against Igbos. I don't blame any of you here. If the north believe so much in politics of election and agitation, why have they been so much agaisnt the emergence of Osibanjo in 2019. The massacre of 2011 general election is still fresh in our memory. The North believes that they are born to rule. Nobody should lay the blame on the Igbos. If not for my stupid brothers living in the North, una for get mouth talk. Nonsense.

Oya call them back unity begger.

magoo10:
this old man should know that no one owns monopoly to violence ,I pray for a situation whereby all the Igbo's will move away from the north,they should also know that a lot of them and their leaders own properties including oil wells down south ,they will also be forced to abandon them or they will all go up in flames

Are u begging for d unity mr man pack ur things n leave simple.

jomonic:


Have you got a proof. Show it.

"In January of 1966, a group of army officers, consisting mostly of the Ibo peoples, and led by General Johnson Aguiyi-Ironsi, overthrew the central and regional governments, killed the prime minister, took control of the government, and got rid of the federal system of government to replace it with a central government with many Ibos as advisors."

Source : http://www.glpinc.org/Classroom%20Activities/Nigeria%20Articles/Nigeria-history%20since%201960.htm

While you are at it, you should read this as well.

http://thecommonwealth.org/our-member-countries/nigeria/history

Educate yourself a little..
Stay blessed. One Nigeria

akpamuomenka:


Na so. Military ko millipede ni

That's the problem with our young people of today in nigeria.to many have no sense of sobriety about issues
That can decide life or death...'

The 1st casualty in any war is the truth....it's verbal and mental statecraft games being played by Kanu now..he has handlers
From so far away who are pulling his strings...

Your received a sub_standard education and don't really understand how the real world works... so I can't really blame
You for your ignorance...

Sheeple will always follow blindly untill its too late..by then have lost thier wool and maybe even more...

This issue is not one to be trivialized.....

fleshbone:
Winter has Finally COME!

Yet its adverse cold effect has always been more devastating in the north.

fleshbone:
Winter has Finally COME!

Yet its adverse cold effect has always been more devastating in the north.

LordCrimson:

I'll just leave you to wallow in your ignorance and shallowness........Twist his words to suit your demented mind.....Rubbish!!!

And you can also do same, I will not trade insult with you..

princdebola201:
Igbos una too like wahala, arewa say him no want union with u a again, leave him land they not asking for too much.
This is a call to glory for ur Biafra dreams

when it come to slaughtering of people, u think house/Fulani knows the difference between Igbo and Yoruba? ho to kano and see how Yoruba people are relying on the Igbo's for protection in sabon gari. I pity Yoruba Muslims that sit in Lagos, Ibadan and Ilorin to talk trash. Ask questions before u talk. The Hausa's keep referring to the Igbo's because that is where they can get some resistance. The Yoruba people are written off already.

DrGoodman:
Let me wait and see if DSS will not arrest Ango Abdullahi for inciting violence against a section of the country.

As usual, its the yorubas who will carry the matter for head while their roofs still remain brown.

....see how stupid u always are ...the man said u are mad but instead of facing front u start turning your opolo eyes and flattie to Yoruba....una well so?

chinjo:


when it come to slaughtering of people, u think house/Fulani knows the difference between Igbo and Yoruba? ho to kano and see how Yoruba people are relying on the Igbo's for protection in sabon gari. I pity Yoruba Muslims that sit in Lagos, Ibadan and Ilorin to talk trash. Ask questions before u talk. The Hausa's keep referring to the Igbo's because that is where they can get some resistance. The Yoruba people are written off already.

....

...usual IPOB fiction based on too much ogogoro....

femolii:
hahaha see idiot north said u should leave u are here calling afonja, u don' t want to leave north again u are now the unity begger osu man.

....face the north and stop pretending u don't know who slapped u....you are the biggest cowards in Nigeria!....

EVERY Social RELATIONSHIP IS NEGOTIABLE, EVEN UNSOCIAL RELATIONSHIP IS NEGOTIABLE ( the victim and victimizer can negotiate a way to end bad situations) your money or your life? can be some of your money or your life?


I guess the wise and foolish igbo or ibo man and even south south can be mistaken for igbos therefore everyone should take this treat seriously, and make adequate plan to leave the north or properly prepare to defend himself unto death whenever and wherever the occasion arise (market office on the road and even in his room. be ready to take at least an attacker with you to haven and meet God to settle it there. Be brave! Because death comes but once and no one or group has a monopoly of violence, weapon knows so one.

Go through the history and see that most of the northerners and even the South-Westerners do not really know what they want.
because the igbos have gone and done further than any ethnic group or ethnic nationality in Nigeria to cement brotherhood, they build best houses and business whenever they found themselves (from buying ocean and sand filling to build grand home in Lagos to leveling of sand dome in kano) they bring about social development in the same strike too. if in doubt check out the old Orile iganum and the current one, same with Okota Ijesha, Maza-maza and Amuwo Odofin and Festac extension in Lagos, I don't want to mention Lekki axis we all know what the Ibos (Igbos developers if you like) did. then compare same with Mushin, Isale eko, Oko oba Agege to sango axis and even Ikorodu just read evening news and you can draw conclusion on the areas listed above with most backward uncivilized happening news

e.g man killed and eyes plugged for rituals, Area boys raid street or shops, woman raped at night, and man 50years defile 7 year old girl lured with Agege bread. all forms of odd unbelievable retrogressive news

and where do you read news like New 3 star hotel build by?(Okoro) Man gift his girlfriend a new car, grand opening of Uche Plazza etc?

Ndi-Igbo have always been regarded as second class citizens in deed, indirectly and directly! just like the Black Americans in the USA
it's Systematic maybe unofficial and unwritten but it has been an accepted and practiced code-red since the end of the Nigerian-Biafra Civil War of 1969. the hatred is palpable as soon as you say your names and it sound IBO their face countenance change to 6:30 o'clock(AM or PM) sleepy. they are in a hurry to dismiss you or frustrate you, but WHY? Igbos are bad yet they pay the highest house rental shop or house, they pay higher transportation to and fro to Ibo dominated areas, like Masha, Lawason etc. TEJUOSHO AND OYINBO markets are at lost to Lagos Government because the NDI-IGBO are unwilling to buy. go to markets at ALABA, TRADE FAIR, WARE HOUSE TINCAN APAPA, LADIPO MARKET.
compare with market dominated by Hausas and Yorubas like Mushin, Oyinbo, Alaba rago ojo, suru alaba ojo, Boundary ajegunle, Ijora Badia, Pen cinema Agege, Ikorodu, Ojota mile12, Itire Bariga, so unclean unkempt and disorganized, they cook and sleep in some of the markets

prove me wrong and list out Federal Government presence(built assets) in all the regions and compare same with the South-East region or states
in the same manner other Ethnic nationalities in Nigeria should also list there businesses and properties in the Igbo nation (the South-East Governors would have and should used this major neglect by Federal as their joint barging chips irrespective of their party affiliations) they should also form consortium and develop Roads and toll them for the development of their states(joint water broad, joint industrial layouts at their interstate bounders will make sense that each state going solo with huge project and fail to complete them. they can build interstate dual carriage ways to link themselves and open up the South-East, Tourist and youth recreational centers and produce Stars. let it be know that the Federal Government plan is to under develop the South-East. Am not pro Biafra but hey they are right because they feel neglected.

If the Federal Government will be wise and develop each region Nigeria will be great no region that is lacking in resources and human capital,
if they can't am begging them to consider outsourcing (to import) governance to Indians, Chinese and Germans consortium and see what will happen in just 5 years.
They will clearly and accurately map out our resources make projection and balance our books and business will take shape, the Generals and cabal will still have their percentage coming if not even flowing to them with much ease and Nigeria will remain stable too (win-win for all)

The Ndi-Igbos should use this opportunity well and put their foot down, for a clear cut referendum, restructuring and possible constitutional backing or accommodation of protection and compensations of life and properties from warring youths of the north and south west.

Anytime the youths of the North and South-West wants to[b] loot and rape[/b] they go for Ndi-Igbos and in the end no one is jailed and no guarantee it won't happen again or a compensation to Propitiate and as a palliative measures for the lost of life and properties on the side of the targeted victims (be it Ndi-Igbos, Christians or any non indigenes may suffer from Indigenous groups or State official fiat with bad socioeconomically but political motivated and unwarranted affliction)

to this I call the Good people of The North, the South-West and Igbos and all the Good and God fearing Minds to press it on the Government and especially our bicameral Legislators to as a matter of urgency enact laws that will make it mandatory, for victims to receive compensations and unhindered access to health and basic needs to ameliorate the pains of ethnic brutality visited on non indeigenes, if possible their should be a clear formula to make every government organ fill the impact so that they will be on the watch to prevent further and future accordance,

e.g Federal government will own 40%
State Government will pay 30%
and Local Government will pay 20%
and political office holders will make 10%

this way the all will see the sense in keeping the peace and prosecuting the parties involve to the full extent of the law

Same for resource control, the people should own a giving percent in the resources of their state or local governments and pay tax.

if Mr. A and Mr. X are from Lagos mainland local government and buy to own a share of 1% in any company or resources located in their Local Government Area (LGA) They will be willing to expose any act of sabotage or vandalism that may want to befall the company or the illegal mining of the resource because they have direct and indirect interest in the affairs of the companies or resources in that their local government, and may suffer direct lost if any bad operation befall the normal operations of the companies and resources.

so if you own a share from the resources or big company in your local government that gives you about 10k monthly or even yearly, will you want to loose it to bad guys in your community that wants to spoil show? oh No you will give info that will give them out to the police.

In fact, they will blow the whistle so loud that the police have no choice but to arrest the bad guys and will not even think of taking bribe


Nigeria need to move on to greater things not i be Ibo or i be Yoruba or Hausa. i see sane people do business with insane people because of common interest. yes madmen give lucky number to gamblers of baba ijabu and nairabet, all they want is win win situation,
if this can happen in Nigeria there is hope and there is God, all i want is to see Nigerian and in fact all the human race unite, If the sky is large enough to contain all the stars so how big are we?

martinosi:


That's the problem with our young people of today in nigeria.to many have no sense of sobriety about issues
That can decide life or death...'

The 1st casualty in any war is the truth....it's verbal and mental statecraft games being played by Kanu now..he has handlers
From so far away who are pulling his strings...

Your received a sub_standard education and don't really understand how the real world works... so I can't really blame
You for your ignorance...

Sheeple will always follow blindly untill its too late..by then have lost thier wool and maybe even more...

This issue is not one to be trivialized.....

Story story. all the time

A major factor in the Biafra war was the inclusion of the oil rich delta. oil was just discovered then, and Ojukwu wanted to corner it, also they were the first to introduce political assassination on a large scale murdering many, yet they were not armed to fight the war they started, not all ibos want this biafra thing, but many (stupidly) do. It cant happen let it go ... continue to prosper in Nigeria, struggle for relevance (in fact u are already relevant) but stop cursing your own country, stop insulting other tribes cos you are not innocent in this Nigeria, all tribes have sinned . I wonder if y'all are cursed, if you secede you may succeed. Succeed in breaking Nigeria because they say no country survives 2 civil wars, but so many ibos will suffer and die and you may never recover. remember that you will be land locked so the same blockade tactics may be used again. Let me tell the Igbos Nigeria loves Ibos, but many Ibos are so arrogant and hateful to others..even before the war they had this attitude leading to unprovoked murder of Sardauna and others, a terrible act...Maybe God wants to punish them for their sins and lies and abominations because many of you will suffer, hate life and die if u try it again be warned ooooo. A lot of the things your elders told u is propaganda. Yes we know the British gave the North some advantage when setting up Nigeria but ultimately the hand of God created us as we are, under this democratic setting we can restructure Nigeria's government so that all may enjoy the good of he land. No country consists of a single ethnic group lets live together. If you make Nigeria enter war, the rest of the country will enjoy it. Those u call Afonjas, Northerners and other tribes will be massively recruited into NA..Giving them a chance to wield automatic weapons tanks and bombs,to rape your women and take your property as is the way of war. No one is oppressing you because you guys are everywhere making money in Naija. Stop it now i beg u all. Dont listen to Kanu or Achebe the propagandist. You have soo much to lose and so little to gain. If Nigeria allows you go what will stop every other tribe from seeking their own country. The fact is Nigeria needs positive change and true democracy as well as an end to "Kworrupshion"..Nigeria does not need to break. If Ibos were all in the East you would be overcrowded. Wake up ndigbo reason well. If another war is triggered by your agitations, Nigeria may decide to completely wipe you out so that we can have some peace because if you look well it was you who set Nigeria on the path of negativity she is in today. If there was no 1st coup, there would not have been all the other coups, Northerners would not have become so aggressive, we would be far better now if the actions of your fathers had not occured. I know it hurts when history says your people lost a war.. but get over the past and move on..Or move all your people to the East and continue as Nigeria then slowly seek a referendum or wahtever other peaceful means to separate yourselves, but with all your people scattered over Nigeria making money from other tribes how will you cope when you are all forced back to your territory,? completely surrounded by others because from this thread ss says they are not with you.

femolii:
Are u begging for d unity mr man pack ur things n leave simple.

God forbid begging for which unity,while am already based in the east ,as a matter of fact I can't wait for October 1st when the gadam contraption breaks

femolii:
Are u begging for d unity mr man pack ur things n leave simple.

And may I ask ,where will you be standing when Nigeria eventually break up?

femolii:
Are u begging for d unity mr man pack ur things n leave simple.

It is like you just heard of the word 'unity beggers' and it is realy 'sweeting your belle' as a matter of fact igbos are not unity beggars as clearly demonstrated on may 30th .i know you are still in shock including those animals threatening to suck blood in the north . even the emir of katsina said he will shed his blood to protect the igbo so who is begging who?, who are you and where do you come from ?

naturebase:


"In January of 1966, a group of army officers, consisting mostly of the Ibo peoples, and led by General Johnson Aguiyi-Ironsi, overthrew the central and regional governments, killed the prime minister, took control of the government, and got rid of the federal system of government to replace it with a central government with many Ibos as advisors."

Source : http://www.glpinc.org/Classroom%20Activities/Nigeria%20Articles/Nigeria-history%20since%201960.htm

While you are at it, you should read this as well.

http://thecommonwealth.org/our-member-countries/nigeria/history

Educate yourself a little..
Stay blessed. One Nigeria

All lies and propaganda. Nevertheless believe what you want.

jomonic:


All lies and propaganda. Nevertheless believe what you want.

Since you have the truth, you might as well share it. I would like to learn.

Stay Blessed, One Nigeria.

jomonic:
This professor is amazing in his one sided reasoning. Is he aware that there is something called self determination of a people. Did the Igbo seat in a group meeting to plot the first coup? The answer is capital NO. But lets assume that this is the case and that they were defeated in a bitter conflict as a result. What makes this idiot professor think that the condition of overlordship on a defeated nation can go on in perpetuity. Let this man look through history. Even great empires like the Romans or the Greece won, controlled and lost hold of defeated empires. The reasons for their loss is today replicated in the way Nigeria has refused to accommodate the Igbo, a condition that is fast approaching its end time. Blinded by pride and arrogance; intoxicated by the life of unmerited affluence, they fail to realize that this country is expired.

Then you are clearly not a student of history because if you were then you would have learnt that the period of servitude of the vanquished to the conqueror last hundreds if not thousand of years spanning several generations; but in the case of Nigeria, the victorious Gowon led govt immediately and magnanimously started preaching the policy of no victor no vanquished, simply to accommodate the Igbos , who throughout the war he regarded as recalcitrant brothers not outright enemies; a gesture Igbos have so far taken for granted and ceased to appreciate.

Imagine, in less than 15 yrs after the war, the leader of the rebellion, Ojukwu, did not only get a full pardon but was also eligible to run for the highest office in the land - where does that happen?
In fact if not for this magnanimity of the FG, Igbos should by history not be in a position to enjoy any privileges (let alone be shouting marginalisation or agitating for Biafra) but till today be slaves in this country; and you my friend would be lucky to even qualify as my boi boi polishing my shoes.

naturebase:


Since you have the truth, you might as well share it. I would like to learn.

Stay Blessed, One Nigeria.

But what is the point when your mind is made up. Like I said it is your right to believe whatever gels with your own experiencing.

ItsMeAboki:


Then you are clearly not a student of history because if you were then you would have learnt that the period of servitude of the vanquished to the conqueror last hundreds if not thousand of years spanning several generations; but in the case of Nigeria, the victorious Gowon led govt immediately and magnanimously started preaching the policy of no victor no vanquished, simply to accommodate the Igbos , who throughout the war he regarded as recalcitrant brothers not outright enemies; a gesture Igbos have so far taken for granted and ceased to appreciate.

Imagine, in less than 15 yrs after the war, the leader of the rebellion, Ojukwu, did not only get a full pardon but was also eligible to run for the highest office in the land - where does that happen?
In fact if not for this magnanimity of the FG, Igbos should by history not be in a position to enjoy any privileges (let alone be shouting marginalisation or agitating for Biafra) but till today be slaves in this country; and you my friend would be lucky to even qualify as my boi boi polishing my shoes.

I can't help you.

jomonic:


I can't help you.

Who needs your help?
Just tackle the counter arguments if can or keep quiet.

ItsMeAboki:


Who needs your help?
Just tackle the counter arguments if can or keep quiet.

It is a waste of my time. You have not provided any counter argument.

chinjo:


when it come to slaughtering of people, u think house/Fulani knows the difference between Igbo and Yoruba? ho to kano and see how Yoruba people are relying on the Igbo's for protection in sabon gari. I pity Yoruba Muslims that sit in Lagos, Ibadan and Ilorin to talk trash. Ask questions before u talk. The Hausa's keep referring to the Igbo's because that is where they can get some resistance. The Yoruba people are written off already.

lol that's why an Igbo man was grateful for Yoruba man for hiding his coward father from being killed by abokis

www.nairaland.com/3833597/1966-coup-okonjo-iwealas-adviser-appreciates