EasyWork001:



So according to you, its impossible to be a citizen of one country and at the same time live/work in another

There are no Yoruba people (Nigerians) living in Germany, for instance? Or Niger? Or Benin Republic?

So achieving a Biafran state is predicated on every Igbo citizen in Nigeria living within the borders of that Biafran state at all times?

Your comment is confusing

You will need to get permission of the Nigerian state thru its immigration if you want to stay and do business in Nigeria and hold your passport at all times except if you don't kook like IBO or can speak Hausa, Fulani or Yoruba fluently

Cooly100:


You have no idea. The country is operating an suppressive regime...I gave you an example...The government wants a loan of about $39 billion. The SE is excluded...Why didn't the government give each region $5 billion to develop their infrastructure? Why would the project be for mainly SW and North? So why would you blame the representatives of the SE region? The central government are playing a script to deal with the easterners for the civil war. Besides, there is no trust among the tribes. So good governance would never achieve anything...The mistrust is so deep. The best would be to grant autonomy to the region that believes they can go it alone...

you have not answered the question
What have the leaders done with the paltry allocation given to them? Squandered
Same thing with the South West north and Co. The political class have been using tribalism as a fuel to drive their selfish motor.
Poverty in the so called north is stupendous, ANDY, I repeat ONLY the political class are enjoying the wealth of Nigeria.
Same thing goes for South West, South South.
E. T. C.
The same fate that befell Nigeria is the same that awaits Biafran (if it materializes)
Secondly your own elites would not allow it cos of their selfish interest

And he has not been arrested and jailed!

vayne:
Ultimatum or no ultimatum,our stance remains thesame!

Let the country divide peacefully after which everyone can relocate!

You can't ask anyone to relocate when the division process has not been concluded,conclude it and see if any Igbo remains anywhere outside igboland!

If the north wants a breakup,they have their members in the HOR through which to channel their idealogies!

1)Why is the SW so scared of condemning the approach of the north towards secession as it did to NK led agitation,under the guise of "following due peaceful process",what are they scared of?

2)why can't the SW tell the north to represent their case through their members in the house of reps like they always tell igbos?

3)why haven't they threatened the north with war like they did to Igbos?

What are they scared of?

The earlier the better for ignorants like you to realize that Yorubas are liberal people.
A Yoruba group Afenifere has condemned the AREWA youths quit notice.
Stop ranting online as if you know anything about nation building or break up

Cooly100:
This is not the issue...the Igbos and other tribes who are contagious to the SE want out...We want to be able to develop at our own pace. We want to be able to get foreign loans and develop our cities without going to Abuja to beg..We want be able to build our roads without asking Abuja, we want to be able to compete without quota system. We want to have our embassies without travelling to Abuja or Lagos. We want all foreign airlines to come to the East...we have suffered having to travel to Lagos and Abuja first...We want to go to space by serious investment in R&Development..We want out people to be employed as they are recruited into Biafra army, police,Immigration, Customs, National Guard, Biafra elite commandos, Biafra Secret Service...We want to build international Stadia in our region,etc, etc...

It will be a win win situation for the rest of Nigeria and Biafra...as development would be enhanced. We hope to create mutual relationship and respect for each other.

Did any of the person who gave you the more than 200likes told you that all of these can be achieved while still being in Nigeria? The problem is that if only you people can expend half the energy you are expending on this Biafra thing on your leaders to do the right thing with what they get from Abuja and from the little they make internally, all these rants wouldn't have been necessary.

For me, all I see is one man taking advantage of the gullibility of some sets of people to get cheap popularity, laying the foundations for his own relevance in the political calculations of the SE in time to come. Mark my words!

Cooly100:
This is not the issue...the Igbos and other tribes who are contagious to the SE want out...We want to be able to develop at our own pace. We want to be able to get foreign loans and develop our cities without going to Abuja to beg..We want be able to build our roads without asking Abuja, we want to be able to compete without quota system. We want to have our embassies without travelling to Abuja or Lagos. We want all foreign airlines to come to the East...we have suffered having to travel to Lagos and Abuja first...We want to go to space by serious investment in R&Development..We want out people to be employed as they are recruited into Biafra army, police,Immigration, Customs, National Guard, Biafra elite commandos, Biafra Secret Service...We want to build international Stadia in our region,etc, etc...

It will be a win win situation for the rest of Nigeria and Biafra...as development would be enhanced. We hope to create mutual relationship and respect for each other.

then blame your brother Aguyi Ironsi who introduce the present unitary system

conductor3:
Rubbish. Ango is who we know. The Northerners have threatened us and we won't take it lying down.

We're not a like a tribe whom the Northerners imprisoned their traditional ruler after killing them at Ile Ife (I didn't call name o )

October 1 loading.

The sun is rising

how many time have you been threatening the nation under the guise of iPad and Biafra. Just a statement from northern youth the whole nation is on fire

mbhs139:


Did any of the person who gave you the more than 200likes told you that all of these can be achieved while still being in Nigeria? The problem is that if only you people can expend half the energy you are expending on this Biafra thing on your leaders to do the right thing with what they get from Abuja and from the little they make internally, all these rants wouldn't have been necessary.

For me, all I see is one man taking advantage of the gullibility of some sets of people to get cheap popularity, laying the foundations for his own relevance in the political calculations of the SE in time to come. Mark my words!

I don't know how else to break this thing down to you...You can never achieve those in Nigeria...Never...have you ever heard of the word Patrotism...? Forget about what they get from Abuja as we are satisfied with what they have achieved with it. If these can be achieved in Nigeria, why were the technogy outputs of the Biafrans not developed 50 years after the war...? You still import mere bullet...I will stop here...Igbos will never meet their eternal goals by being in Nigeria...and that's final...

Leiman100:
then blame your brother Aguyi Ironsi who introduce the present unitary system

The only thing that don't change is a non-living thing...are you are non living thing...? If Ironsi who ruled the country for just 6 months can introduce something...and it cannot be changed after 50 years...then there are issues...and these issues are part of what is happening today...

vayne:
Ultimatum or no ultimatum,our stance remains thesame!

Let the country divide peacefully after which everyone can relocate!

You can't ask anyone to relocate when the division process has not been concluded,conclude it and see if any Igbo remains anywhere outside igboland!

If the north wants a breakup,they have their members in the HOR through which to channel their idealogies!

1)Why is the SW so scared of condemning the approach of the north towards secession as it did to NK led agitation,under the guise of "following due peaceful process",what are they scared of?

2)why can't the SW tell the north to represent their case through their members in the house of reps like they always tell igbos?

3)why haven't they threatened the north with war like they did to Igbos?

What are they scared of?

I am an Igbo man, but I tell you, you are not representing the Ndigbo by confusing important discuss like this.
Why is it that I cannot find reasonable Igbo brothers who will make sense of this ongoing issue here?

Kyase:
i dey boil now

Kyase:
i dey boil now

Kyase:
i dey boil now

eyaa so you are on fire before now and you no wan talk.

sepalapen:
[color=#006600][/color] eyaa so you are on fire before now and you no wan talk.

go sleep

Cooly100:
The Deputy Leader of the Northern Elders Forum (NEF), Elder Paul Unongo has said that Professor Ango Abdullahi is on his own in backing ignorant youths.

Unongo said Northern Elders Forum could not have adopted position of ignorant youths, who were not there when Nigeria lost three million of its citizens to the civil war they fought for keep the country as one united nation.

According to Unongo, “I am the Deputy Leader of the Northern Elders Forum and Ambassador Yusuf Maitama Sule is the leader. So, only the two of us can speak for the forum on sensitive matter like this. Therefore, if Professor Ango Abdullahi is backing those ignorant youths, then he is speaking for himself.

“We cannot support the nonsense those boys said. We fought civil war with our blood to keep Nigeria one. So, any Nigerian can live in any part of the country he feels like. Igbos are welcome in the North, they are welcome in Yoruba land and my own village in Tiv land and they have right to pursue their daily bread and own property.

“We couldn’t have killed three million people to keep Nigeria one and come back and allow these kids (the Northern Youth Groups) to insult our intelligence. We knew why we fought the war, we knew why we killed the people we loved. We knew why we made the sacrifice of three million men dead. So, Northern Elders Forum cannot take same position as those young men, if at all they took a position.

“So, if the young men cannot build a nation, they should not destroy the one we put our lives on the line to build for them. We cannot allow young men who did not fight the civil war with us to destroy our country, because Nigeria cannot afford another civil war,” he said.

http://thenationonlineng.net/ango-abdullahi-northern-elders-forum

The only sentence that captured my attention is

"We couldn't have killed 3 million people to keep Nigeria one and come back and allow this kids to insult our intelligence"

The rest is just stories!

Kyase:
then leave the north quietly without begging na

You are beginning to greatly annoy me these days!! See Fulani overrunning your land and occupying fully, yet you come here to masturbate away your sorrows everyday! Pls get a life Mr.

HMDplease:


Illitrate goan finish ur junior waec first b4 coming on nairaland to spew rubbish. Nonsense!

Even your father does not have the certificate I'm holding, that you will call me illiterate, if you are looking for illiterates go to igbo land where a stupid guy called kanu has brainwashed those that claim to have gone to school!

nagoma:


He said 3 million were killed , he didn't say 3 million Igbos, all the Nigerian tribes lost hundreds of thousands of young men in that war. The Nigerian side lost at least a million men, but the noise making is one sided.

The Nigerian side lost about 250,000 soldiers whereas the Biafran side lost about 30,000 soldiers. The vast majority of the people who died in the war were Biafran civilians and that amounted to around 3,000,000 people. The noise making is "one sided", as you put it, because the war was mostly fought on that side and that side bore the brunt of the civilian casualties.

[Pls stop thinking with ur pen. How do u expect the South East to accomodate all the ibos? Lets not jeopardise the lifes of innocent and hardworking Ibos because of ur senseless grandstanding. I am an ibo man if u care to know.
quote author=vayne post=57361132]Ultimatum or no ultimatum,our stance remains thesame!

Let the country divide peacefully after which everyone can relocate!

You can't ask anyone to relocate when the division process has not been concluded,conclude it and see if any Igbo remains anywhere outside igboland!

If the north wants a breakup,they have their members in the HOR through which to channel their idealogies!

1)Why is the SW so scared of condemning the approach of the north towards secession as it did to NK led agitation,under the guise of "following due peaceful process",what are they scared of?

2)why can't the SW tell the north to represent their case through their members in the house of reps like they always tell igbos?

3)why haven't they threatened the north with war like they did to Igbos?

What are they scared of?
[/quote]

Abduljabbar1313:



Even your father does not have the certificate I'm holding, that you will call me illiterate, if you are looking for illiterates go to igbo land where a stupid guy called kanu has brainwashed those that claim to have gone to school!

E pain am.

Ngozi123:


The Nigerian side lost about 250,000 soldiers whereas the Biafran side lost about 30,000 soldiers. The vast majority of the people who died in the war were Biafran civilians and that amounted to around 3,000,000 people. The noise making is "one sided", as you put it, because the war was mostly fought on that side and that side bore the brunt of the civilian casualties.

Those are your figures of course.

tecboss:
[Pls stop thinking with ur pen. How do u expect the South East to accomodate all the ibos? Lets not jeopardise the lifes of innocent and hardworking Ibos because of ur senseless grandstanding. I am an ibo man if u care to know.
quote author=vayne post=57361132]Ultimatum or no ultimatum,our stance remains thesame!
Let the country divide peacefully after which everyone can relocate!
You can't ask anyone to relocate when the division process has not been concluded,conclude it and see if any Igbo remains anywhere outside igboland!
If the north wants a breakup,they have their members in the HOR through which to channel their
1)Why is the SW so scared of condemning the approach of the north towards secession as it did to NK led agitation,under the guise of "following due peaceful process",what are they scared of?
2)why can't the SW tell the north to represent their case through their members in the house of reps like they always tell
3)why haven't they threatened the north with war like they did to Igbos?
What are they scared of?

Sorry but you are making a mistake, North is not threatening secession. North is conceding, is giving in, north is accepting, north is yielding to the years of intense agitation by the SE to secede and I think they ( S.Easterners) should welcome this opportunity and do the needful.

nagoma:


Those are your figures of course.

Just as those figures you reported are your own made up, heavily embellished figures. If the Nigerian side lost 250,000 soldiers during the war but 1,000,000 people over all, doesn't that mean that they lost 750,000 civilians? Please tell me how on earth the Biafran side managed to kill that many civilians despite the fact that the war was fought mostly on their side and their soldiers only really started to kill Nigerian civilians as they were retreating... How can retreating soldiers kill 750,000 people in a matter of weeks?

NothingDoMe:
Your brother in the southwest indeed. Hahaha.

Bia, we resemble your children that you would teach lessons to abi?

Don't worry. Let the song start and then we will know the fate of The Zoo. Don't mind all those people coming out to declare that they are not part of biafra.

Let a war start and you will know your true allies.

Opinion:

NIGERIA CANNOT DO WITHOUT THE NORTH

By Femi Aribisala

Without the North, Nigeria and Nigerians would be reduced to nonentities.

In 2005, Goldman Sachs Investment Bank forecast that Nigeria will be the 20th largest economy in the world by 2025 and the 12th largest by 2050; ahead of Italy, Canada and South Korea. Having identified Brazil, Russia, India and China as four emergent powerhouses of the world economy referred to as the BRICS; it included Nigeria among “the Next Eleven” countries of Bangladesh, Egypt, Indonesia, Iran, Mexico, Nigeria, Pakistan, Philippines, South Korea, Turkey, and Vietnam.

At the U.S.-Nigeria Trade and Investment Forum organised by the Nigerians in Diaspora Organisation of the Americas (NIDOA) in Washington D.C. in 2012, President Barack Obama of the United States acknowledged Nigeria not only as a strategic centre of gravity in Africa; he went further to proclaim the country “the world’s next economic giant.” Early this year, with the rebasing of the country’s GDP, Nigeria emerged as the biggest economy in Africa, surpassing South Africa.

Manifest destiny

It is no secret that Nigeria is a country of great potentials, even if that potential is yet to be appreciably realised. One of the strengths of the country is its large population. Currently estimated at 170 million, Nigeria is the seventh largest country in the world. By 2050, Nigeria’s population is projected by the United Nations to reach 389 million, rivaling that of the United States at 403 million. By the end of the century, the U.N. projects that Nigeria’s population would be between 900 million and 1 billion, nearing that of China which would then be the second most populous country in the world after India.

Nigeria’s economic size is a blessing in disguise. It means the country will have a ready domestic market for its eventual industrial growth. It means it can envisage economies of scale not possible in smaller countries. Even now, Nigeria offers alluring returns for investors. Says Charles Robertson, Global Chief Economist at Renaissance Capital: “We know it’s not risk free, but look around the world and find another economy with 160 million people growing at 7 percent with such potential. It’s a struggle to find them.”

Countries go to war to acquire the kind of real estate that is Nigeria. This makes it all the more ludicrous that there are noises coming out of Southern Nigeria demanding that the country should be divided. The most ethnically jingoistic of these is the insistence that Nigeria would be better off without the North. It would appear that some Southern Nigerians have been intoxicated by oil. Since there is no oil in the North, they conclude that the North is no more than an albatross on the neck of the South and castigate it as a region defined by dependency.

This view is nothing short of idiotic. No serious-minded country relinquishes a region as rich and as resourceful as Northern Nigeria. Without the North, Nigeria’s much-vaunted potentials would vanish. Without the North, Nigeria would be nothing more than yet another balkanized and insignificant African country, or group of countries. Take the North out of the Nigerian equation and there can no longer be any black country in the world that can possibly attain the status of a major power in the world. Without the North, Nigeria and Nigerians would be reduced to nonentities.

Northern imperative

Nigerians have been blinded by oil. Because of oil, we have become unproductively mono-cultural in our economy. However, oil is hardly the only major resource we have. Although oil revenues have brought us a great deal of financial prosperity, at the same time it stunted the inexorable emergence of agro-based industries in Nigeria. The backbone of such promissory local industries is in Northern Nigeria.

The North is the breadbasket of Nigeria. A significant proportion of the food we eat down South comes from the North. The North occupies 70% of Nigeria’s land mass, giving it comparative advantage vis-à-vis the South in terms of agriculture, raw materials and livestock. A large chunk of the North is arable and supportive of year-round food production. Thanks largely to the North, there is no tropical agricultural crop known to man that cannot be grown in Nigeria. With a transition from subsistence to mechanized agriculture, Northern Nigeria alone can produce enough food to feed the whole of Africa.

Northern Nigeria is bigger than most African countries. Currently, Nigeria wastes a staggering 1.3 trillion naira on food imports; virtually one-third of the annual budget. But the North can produce all the food we need, thereby liberating valuable resources. Already, it is the North that feeds the South in Nigeria. Virtually all Southern food crops and livestock come from the North. Much of Nigeria’s water resources are also in the North. With the right policy mixes, the North will earn for Nigeria billions of dollars annually from agriculture.

Our Niger-Delta brothers should not get too carried away by their oil. If their oil is a national resource today, so will Northern agriculture and agro-allied industries be national resources tomorrow. Oil is a wasting asset. Short of new discoveries, Nigeria’s oil will expire within the next 50 years. However, Northern agriculture will never expire.

Northern resources

There is something else besides. There can be no doubt that there is oil in the North. It is only a matter of time before it is discovered. The geography and topography of the North and the discovery of oil in surrounding areas is a testament to this eventuality. Since there is oil in Cameroon, Chad and Niger Republic, the chances are pretty good that Northern states like Bauchi, Borno, Sokoto and Niger will one day become oil-producing states.

Moreover, the North is rich in mineral resources; far richer than the South. There is gold in Zamfara; uranium in Taraba; tin-ore in Plateau; columbite in Nassarawa; iron ore in Kogi; gysium in Gombe and limestone in Sokoto among others. Hydroelectricity for the country is provided from Kainji Dam and Shiroro Gorge. There are game reserves in the North including Argungu, which make it a potential money-spinner for tourism, a possible Kenya in the making if we can get rid of the scourge of Boko Haram.

Southern Nigerians should stop underestimating Northern industry. Northerners created the ground-nut pyramids, cotton farms and tanneries of old. With visionary national and regional leadership, these will surely make a comeback. So also will the textile factories of Gusau, Kaduna and Kano. All the Southern bigotry about the North being predominantly Moslem is just nonsense. When you see what economic wonders Moslems are doing in places like Dubai, Oman, Qatar, Abu Dhabi, Saudi Arabia and Turkey, you will realise that Nigeria has a lot to learn from Moslems.

It should not be forgotten that by far the most enterprising Nigerian today is a Northerner from Kano. According to the most recent Forbes Billionaires list of March 2014, Aliko Dangote is now the 23rd richest man in the world with a net worth of $25 billion dollars. This is an amazing feat for an African and a Nigerian. Dangote is now richer than Alisher Usmanov; the richest man in Russia. He is also richer than Mukesh Ambani; India’s richest man. Dangote is all the more remarkable because he achieved this feat primarily through a route far less travelled by Nigerians: the hard, difficult grind of manufacturing.

The Northern problem is the Nigerian problem. It is the problem of bad leadership. Northern politicians and military leaders have been the bane of the North and of Nigeria. They have grown fat at the expense of the poor. They have deliberately kept the poor uneducated, preferring to feed them from the crumbs falling from their table. But as Boko Haram bites deeper, this too shall pass. A new generation of Northern leadership is emerging. An example of this is Rabiu Kwankwaso of Kano who is, by all accounts, redeeming his first-term as Governor with the second-term.

Uneducated hogwash

All things considered, the boast of a Nigeria divorced from the North is balderdash. Nigeria cannot do without the North. We cannot divide Nigeria into 350 ethnic nation-states. Let Southerners stop fooling ourselves. Any attempt to abridge Nigeria because some Southern areas want to go it alone will be disastrous. Ethnic homogeneity is no panacea against internal conflict. Somalia is ethnically homogeneous. Nevertheless, it is a failed state. Southern Sudan only recently obtained independence from Sudan. Nevertheless, it is already embroiled in inter-ethnic conflict.

There can be no romantic Oduduwa Republic, unless we foolishly ignore the long history of Yoruba wars. Try to turn back the clock, and the Egba, the Ekiti, the Ijebu, the Ijesha and the Ilorin will start locking horns yet again. Even now, there are daggers drawn between the Ife and Modakeke in Osun. There can be no return to Biafra, unless we pretend that the differences between the Aguleri and the Umuleri in Anambra or that between the Ezza and the Ezillo in Ebonyi are fiction. The Igbo have never been united. Historically, they were organized into separate and autonomous republics. Biafra itself had problems with its ethnic minorities.

There can be no Republics of the Niger Delta. Are we then to divide the Efik from the Ibibio, the Ijaw from the Itsekiri; the Kalabari from the Ogoja; and the Ogoni from the Urhobos? What then would happen after the oil runs dry?

There can only be the Federal Republic of Nigeria. No matter what anyone says, Nigeria is a country and a country it should remain. You don’t live together for 50 to 100 years and not become a country. It does not matter if some of us are Muslims and some are Christians: we are all Nigerians. It does not matter if some of us speak Hausa and some speak Yoruba: we are all Nigerians. Our diversity is our strength. That is the beauty of Nigeria. It cannot be re-engineered.

Nigeria is a blessed country, carefully-crafted by divine ordinance. This is not time to start hankering after some midget states when the Europeans are busy crafting a super-state. This is no time to think small. It is time for Nigerians to start thinking big and bigger.

(First published in March 2014.)

Kyase:
i dey boil now

i heard that cattle rearers need your land for grazing,should i now call you a GRAZIAN?

HiddenShadow:


You have a good heart

May the True Creator of the world, reveal Himself to you

If Christ Jesus was truly sent by God to save the world, may God reveal to you personally that Christianity is the way of faith He established.

Remain blessed

I am sure, you will never miss heaven

I am absolutely sure that hell will never be your resting place

Ba Amin ba :-/ Kai I will never be a Christian just because I prayed for igbos to have independence from Nigeria does not mean I want to become a Christian plz