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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:01pm On Jun 10, 2017
Oasis007:
undecided



More drilled PLAYERS are needed in this Team.

When Forgiveness rated many of them low, some Dudes think he's crazy.

Hahahahahah! Dem eyes go clear soon. grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:01pm On Jun 10, 2017
Icon4s:


Go back and watch that replay but this time with an open mind.

Close range headers are the most difficult to deal with. You cannot tell which direction the vial would travel.

Awaziem was responsible for that goal.

And if anyone is to replace Akpeyi it will definitely not be Alampasu.


After you will say you are not sentimental. Why not Alampasu? What did he do to you except on repeated occassions being our best performing goal keeper in camp. You do not want the best in goal but accuse me of sentiments.

I repeat, that Rantie's header we close to Akpeyi, he should have saved it but messed it up. It is his fault.

At least he spilled the ball for all to see. The guy is poor.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:01pm On Jun 10, 2017
We obviously missed our big players today: Balogun, Moses and Mikel.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:02pm On Jun 10, 2017
Right now we need the best players that are available to Nigeria no youth players and or bench warmers.

Simply proven tested and quality irrespective of age the best. Today we did not have our best.

I even believe if Efe Ambrose was in that defense it would not have looked this bad.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 8:02pm On Jun 10, 2017
komekn:


Be objective and realistic if you bring a half decent striker from non league and you give him 10 minutes to throw in everything he has when everyone is tired and lethargic.

Of course he will look fired up and even a little bit dangerous. For me I didn't see anything exceptional beyond initial grateful gra gra, sorry but that's my opinion.

supported actually. like Iheanacho performing better in preseason than other top stars because he wants to impress, IGG THAT'S ALL
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 8:03pm On Jun 10, 2017
WORLDPEACE:

Yes, the players just needed to pass the ball around faster than they did, to not give the opponent too much time to time to sit back and defend. Then the flanks were not used enough. When they used them the crosses were poor. No single set-piece resulted in anything tangible. As an Arsenal fan I have seen these kind of scenarios play out a thousand times. There is always one way out - quick, precise and direct football. It looks to me like the coach is tired of coaching our team and he wants to be fired.


Lmao
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:03pm On Jun 10, 2017
komekn:


Be objective and realistic if you bring a half decent striker from non league and you give him 10 minutes to throw in everything he has when everyone is tired and lethargic.

Of course he will look fired up and even a little bit dangerous. For me I didn't see anything exceptional beyond initial grateful gra gra, sorry but that's my opinion.

I can respect that but you missed the fact that Kayode came in. With his experience and form, he should have showed the initial gra gra but he could not. Instead Osimhen with even less time looked more dangerous. So the notion that any decent striker could do the same simply does not work.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 8:05pm On Jun 10, 2017
Base on our defence today. I throway cap for Sir Icon4s.

He is always of the opinion that you don't use a young(rookie) in d heart of your defence. Awaziem did had a good game but his lack of experience cost us for the first goal and he almost gifted a penalty to the SAs. Echiejile too didn't come to the party today. I was impressed with Shehu... The guy is a baller.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 8:06pm On Jun 10, 2017
komekn:
Right now we need the best players that are available to Nigeria no youth players and or bench warmers.

Simply proven tested and quality irrespective of age the best. Today we did not have our best.

I even believe if Efe Ambrose was in that defense it would not have looked this bad.

not supported, Ambrose? that guy looks more like TB Joshua than an actual footballer and quite frankly we have better players around
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 8:06pm On Jun 10, 2017
Congrats to the southies Good discipline game execution on their part. As for us What a bad Loss but this is no time to panic just to note our mistakes and learn from them.

My observations I hope the technical crew will finally look for a reliable back up for ikeme. Akpeyi without a shadow of a doubt is not super Eagles material.
Iheanacho can't play the sole 9 role. I feel if he plays slightly behind the main striker his good passing range will help unlock teams that park the bus.
Iwobi hasn't been effective in the wing role since the Zambia match. It's either we try him in the 10 role or he drops to the bench.
Like others have said onazi/Ndidi combo can't work. Frankly Speaking Wilfred bring more to the table than onazi who is nowadays more hustle and bustle than end product.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:07pm On Jun 10, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


After you will say you are not sentimental. Why not Alampasu? What did he do to you except on repeated occassions being our best performing goal keeper in camp. You do not want the best in goal but accuse me of sentiments.

I repeat, that Rantie's header we close to Akpeyi, he should have saved it but messed it up. It is his fault.

At least he spilled the ball for all to see. The guy is poor.

Who said Alampasu is our best keeper in camp?

Do you understand what being 'best' means in this context?

You keep saying 'the ball was close to Akpeyi so he should have saved' it but you have never blamed the player that left Rantie in position after missing his own header . And you say you are not being sentimental.

I repeat if it was Omeruo that had the kind of game Awaziem had today you would have crudified the boy with words here.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:07pm On Jun 10, 2017
Iheanacho made lots of brilliant runs today. With neat tidy through passes, he would have torn the South African team to shreds today and we would be singing a different tune.

We need to find our weaknesses and today we did not have good final balls. We also did not have a good standing four performance. A minor tweak can sort this. Iwobi going behind the forwards, seeing more of the ball and getting to reap defenses with his passing ability will solve this.

Also, Ndidi sticking to shielding the defence will make us stronger.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 8:08pm On Jun 10, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


I can respect that but you missed the fact that Kayode came in. With his experience and form, he should have showed the initial gra gra but he could not. Instead Osimhen with even less time looked more dangerous. So the notion that any decent striker could do the same simply does not work.

I said this before the game, psychology is an important aspect of football. You are the mvp in your league, the goal king over there and you are forced to sit on the bench for someone who does not even have a permanent spot on the city bench, if I am Kayode I will be saying it serves the coach right and I wouldn't be playing with all my heart.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:08pm On Jun 10, 2017
Icon4s:


Who said Alampasu is our best keeper in camp?

Do you understand what being 'best' means in this context?

You keep saying 'the ball was close to Akpeyi so he should have saved' it but you have never blamed the player that left Rantie in position after missing his own header . And you say you are not being sentimental.

I repeat if it was Omeruo that had the kind of game Awaziem had today you would have crudified the boy with words here.




As if you were not there when Omeruo made a terrible mistake when playing for us. The ball was close to Akpeyi. Simple. He should have saved it. Too Close to him.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 8:08pm On Jun 10, 2017
forgiveness:


Hahahahahah! Dem eyes go clear soon. grin

grin

Seriously their Eyes ain't clear yet. Some of them are claiming you are sentiment, yet they are the ones being sentiment.

Some were even calling for the Head of Simon Moses as if the Lad was the most poor in the Pitch.

Iheanacho played nothing, he couldn't drop to the middle to help, Iwobi was disappointed, Ndidi was lost, Etebo couldn't convert a well laid Pass, also couldn't make a single decisive Pass as an AM, yet Simon was the one to be blamed.

Thank God Musa didn't play in the first Half, he would have been condemned to Death.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:12pm On Jun 10, 2017
Mickael2:


I said this before the game, psychology is an important aspect of football. You are the mvp in your league, the goal king over there and you are forced to sit on the bench for someone who does not even have a permanent spot on the city bench, if I am Kayode I will be saying it serves the coach right and I wouldn't be playing with all my heart.

Kayode would have been stranded upfront. I doubt he would have made the kind of runs Iheanacho made but yet Iheanacho could not get the passes needed to cause damage. Daddy and Iwobi were dangerous also but we lacked the perpetrating passes from the middle.

So I do not think the choice of who we the striker was the problem. We need to work on having a replacement when we do not have Mikel Obi.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 8:12pm On Jun 10, 2017
WORLDPEACE:

Yes, the players just needed to pass the ball around faster than they did, to not give the opponent too much time to time to sit back and defend. Then the flanks were not used enough. When they used them the crosses were poor. No single set-piece resulted in anything tangible. As an Arsenal fan I have seen these kind of scenarios play out a thousand times. There is always one way out - quick, precise and direct football. It looks to me like the coach is tired of coaching our team and he wants to be fired.
wow! Sir, You'll make a great coach. You can do your country a great service by forwarding your CV to the glass house. We'll follow it from there.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:14pm On Jun 10, 2017
Oasis007:


grin

Seriously their Eyes ain't clear yet. Some of them are claiming you are sentiment, yet they are the ones being sentiment.

Some were even calling for the Head of Simon Moses as if the Lad was the most poor in the Pitch.

Iheanacho played nothing, he couldn't drop to the middle to help, Iwobi was disappointed, Ndidi was lost, Etebo couldn't convert a well laid Pass, also couldn't make a single decisive Pass as an AM, yet Simon was the one to be blamed.

Thank God Musa didn't play in the first Half, he would have been condemned to Death.

Iheanacho drop to the middle!!!

The midfield was overcrowded with Etebo, Onazi and Ndidi pushing forward. Our defenders also aided playing the high line.

We just lacked accurate through passes. Not dropping to the middle.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:14pm On Jun 10, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


As if you were not there when Omeruo made a terrible mistake when playing for us. The ball was close to Akpeyi. Simple. He should have saved it. Too Close to him.

The ball was close to him how?

Was the ball still that he will just pick it up?

If you had said he didn't do well enough to Marshall the defense I will whole heatedly agree with you.

But to single him out for a blame on that first goal you are just being unfair.

Omeruo made a mistake against Zambia but his overall play was very much OK.

Awaziem was damn terrible today. Rohr thought he was playing a joker but the gamble turnrd out really bad. Awaziem caused us that fist goal.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by enomakos(m): 8:14pm On Jun 10, 2017
Mickael2:
happy Sunday my people
it is not Sunday yet ,today is friday
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tglobal(m): 8:15pm On Jun 10, 2017
Haha, people coming out to defend their favorites and lay blame on players they dont like as usual. I imagine how much stick Omeruo and Musa would have taken if they had started the match today
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 8:15pm On Jun 10, 2017
Icon4s:


So he was also responsible for the second goal. Give out instructions to defenders that were no where to be found.
why can't him call them when they all went further forward pushing for a goal. He couldn't just co-ordinate the men in his front... He was poor. Though I rooted for him to man the post
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:16pm On Jun 10, 2017
AIG07:
Base on our defence today. I throway cap for Sir Icon4s.

He is always of the opinion that you don't use a young(rookie) in d heart of your defence. Awaziem did had a good game but his lack of experience cost us for the first goal and he almost gifted a penalty to the SAs. Echiejile too didn't come to the party today. I was impressed with Shehu... The guy is a baller.

What about experience in the post? The Akpeyi was a calamity. Please explain the spilling of the ball.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by enomakos(m): 8:16pm On Jun 10, 2017
Napoleon55:
I blame VICTOR MOSES FOR THIS,HE SHOULD BE PLAYING THIS GAME
even with victor moses we will still lose
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 8:16pm On Jun 10, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


Kayode would have been stranded upfront. I doubt he would have made the kind of runs Iheanacho made but yet Iheanacho could not get the passes needed to cause damage. Daddy and Iwobi were dangerous also but we lacked the perpetrating passes from the middle.

So I do not think the choice of who we the striker was the problem. We need to work on having a replacement when we do not have Mikel Obi.

have you watched his matches for Austria? that team lacks creativity, his goals are all about grit and hard work unlike Nacho who needs constant deliveries. this Kayode boy is a speed star and a pressing machine, Nacho did not press at all in this match and I wonder why

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by WORLDPEACE(m): 8:17pm On Jun 10, 2017
AIG07:
wow! Sir, You'll make a great coach. You can do your country a great service by forwarding your CV to the glass house. We'll follow it from there.
So that they will owe me salary, abi?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tglobal(m): 8:17pm On Jun 10, 2017
I preface my comment by saying I am not someone who understands tactical formations. I however have an observation on Nigeria's perfomances in the past using the 4-3-3 formation.

I have never understood why coaches try to shoehorn the Super Eagles into this formation that has never brought out the best in our teams. The golden era of our football saw us thrive with playing 2 at the front. We had a Yekini/Amokachi, Yekini/ Siasia, Kanu/Amokachi pairing at different times. I also observed that Keshi's team did well with playing Emenike/Ideye in front at Afcon 2013. Keshi appeared to have experimented with 4-3-3 prior to the quarter finals and the team barely scaled through our group. We were more devastating when he reverted to using two men upfront resulting in Nigeria breezing through the rest of our matches. For some reason, even he didn't stick with his winning formula with the exception of he match against Italy where he used Ameobi / Dike combo to devastating effect.

My belief is that teams should be allowed to play to their strengths irrespective of whatever formation is in vogue. Conte rejigged his tea to play to Chelsea's strength and all of a sudden 3-4-3 looks romantic even though its been around forever. Ranieri did the same with Leicester two seasons ago using 4-4-2, only for him to tinker with the team last season to disastrous effect
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 8:17pm On Jun 10, 2017
TheGoodJoe:
Iheanacho made lots of brilliant runs today. With neat tidy through passes, he would have torn the South African team to shreds today and we would be singing a different tune.

We need to find our weaknesses and today we did not have good final balls. We also did not have a good standing four performance. A minor tweak can sort this. Iwobi going behind the forwards, seeing more of the ball and getting to reap defenses with his passing ability will solve this.

Also, Ndidi sticking to shielding the defence will make us stronger.

Re u talking about this particular match?
Iheanacho was lost, too poor.
He should be dragging flop of the match wit alex

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 8:17pm On Jun 10, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


Kayode would have been stranded upfront. I doubt he would have made the kind of runs Iheanacho made but yet Iheanacho could not get the passes needed to cause damage. Daddy and Iwobi were dangerous also but we lacked the perpetrating passes from the middle.

So I do not think the choice of who we the striker was the problem. We need to work on having a replacement when we do not have Mikel Obi.

Guess you are disappointed in Etebo as a No. 10?! Honestly you need to be objective at least for once Dude.

Iheanacho can't play as a lone Striker. Play the Lad as a SS or a No. 10 and it would be a joy watching him play.

I think Rohr should stop visiting this Thread often and often. He seems paying more Attention to wrong Analyzes on this Platform. The Formation he used and the Players he selected were a Reflection of this Thread Analysis.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:19pm On Jun 10, 2017
Icon4s:


The ball was close to him how?

Was the ball still that he will just pick it up?

If you had said he didn't do well enough to Marshall the defense I will whole heatedly agree with you.

But to single him out for a blame on that first goal you are just being unfair.

Omeruo made a mistake against Zambia but his overall play was very much OK.

Awaziem was damn terrible today. Rohr thought he was playing a joker but the gamble turnrd out really bad. Awaziem caused us that fist goal.




Go and watch how many balls Awaziem won. I wonder if you know what damn terrible. The problem came when our defensive midfield guys pushed forward. It is very logical. Even Rio Ferdinand and Tony Adams will get overrun in that situation.

By half time, I warned about it. The gap was too much. Even Ekong had it rough and was not his usual composed self. We left too much gap.

Explain the experience spilling of the ball.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 8:19pm On Jun 10, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


If Enyeama comes back, I will gladly welcome him. If not if Ikeme is fit, I will feel happy. If not, we should select the best and stop the tricks of this is more experienced. Most annoying is Alloy Agu shielding Akpeyi from screening in the name of preparing him with drills. Absolute thrash. Get them to camp early, drill pick the best two that will most likely start, select the best in training.

There is an art to this. If Agu does not know hi job as a keeper trainer, he should get the hell out. Another mishap from Oliseh's reign.
I got your point d best should be picked but Akpeyi remain d best among d trio in camp so conceding two goals against South Africa doesn't mean is not better than Ezenwa and Alampasu.I remember Enyeama conceded two against South Africa In d same uyo stadium.

I already agreed d guy is poor like other players in today's match but nailing him when we have poor midfield comprising d likes of Onazi and Ndidi not to talk of poor defenders.

My man this is d time to face reality and we should stop based our analysis on preference for certain player.The Alloy Agu u are complaining about always picked Ikeme over Akpeyi

My analysis on Dele Alampasu is simple,he need to show us is there already,a player finding it difficult to maintain NO 1 position in third division club in Portugal,honestly he should thank his star for being invited to national team.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by eterisan(m): 8:20pm On Jun 10, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


As if you were not there when Omeruo made a terrible mistake when playing for us. The ball was close to Akpeyi. Simple. He should have saved it. Too Close to him.
Please can you explain how the ball got close to Akpeyi? Who let the striker get free run! Let me repeat icon4s if it were omeruo we for nor hear word today! My conclusion is you are not objective in your analysis. Very one sided ..You and forgiveness? I dont even know who is worse! I support nacho but the guy was piss poor today.. As a striker void of service what are you supposed to do? He stay front there they wait ball.. Dono if he had up to 10 successful passes today

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