ferhyntorlah:
It's such a pity your cousin got deported. Having an international criminal resident isn't a good thing.

I thing I know is US, UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and a few EU countries share information with one another.

Those who are familiar with visa applications will know what I'm talking about.

Let your cousin go to lenient countries like the poster above suggested.

Closed

realone009:



Truthfully he was schooling before this happened, he even got a 1 year probabtion sentence from the judge but instead of getting released he got placed on an immigration hold by immigration, detained and deported, and what they kept saying to him was everyone who is convicted of any crime must face deportation. Except the person prayer strong wella. He didnt get into anything more serious than that, the only thing is he had two assault charges, na when dem catch am the second one come show but na chick lie to the cops sey him assault her. The guy dey very worried, abeg which other country him fit try wey no go see say dem deport am.

Are we talking about physical or sexual assaults? Both of them are bad and whichever one it is, it happened twice, meaning after the first time he should've​ gotten his act together to ensure it didn't happen again. What do you mean the girl lied? I'm sure they investigated and he was the one at fault.

realone009:
Hello Nairalanders,

My close cousin who was on a student visa just got deported from Canada not to long ago for assault, and he wasn't even done school. According to him, he still wants to travel to somewhere else to study, any ideas of which country he can go to without being refused for the reasons of his deportation? He is thinking of France, Switzerland, or Netherlands. Do you know if these countries will be able to find out about his deportation. Another thing is when he provides a transcript from Canada will they not ask why he left Canada? And if he hides it and decides to start over will these countries (France, Switzerland, or Netherlands) not question the gap years? Please I need some ideas for him. Assist if you can.

He should stay in Nigeria, there are schools there too.

realone009:



True talk, but we searched the internet and found that some countries don't even ask those questions, and that their schools apply for the visa on behalf of the student. I no wan mention the countries before spy go check see am dem go come start to dey ask about criminal record. Anyway, OK I'll tell him to try Germany but aren't their programs taught in German? Yes I have heard about someone who got deported from Malaysia but later left for S.A, but I heard that South Africa isn't so good for Nigerians and that Nigerians are getting killed due to xenophobia. But that's a very good option.

Thanks man!

I recommended Germany with the assumption that he is going for a PG program.
How many Nigerians have been killed in SA?

NotOfThis:


Are we talking about physical or sexual assaults? Both of them are bad and whichever one it is, it happened twice, meaning after the first time he should've​ gotten his act together to ensure it didn't happen again. What do you mean the girl lied? I'm sure they investigated and he was the one at fault.

Maybe you're right, maybe you're not but it has happened, it has happened. How can he move forward? Do you know if he can go to France, Switzerland, or Netherlands? Do you have anyone in these countries? Do you know how their study visa processing works?

dustydee:

I recommended Germany with the assumption that he is going for a PG program.
How many Nigerians have been killed in SA?

Okay, I'll ask him to try Germany, he is still yet to finish his bachelors, he wasn't even done. Thanks.
Here's the link on xenophobia in S.A, na serious issue o: https://www.google.com.ng/amp/www.vanguardngr.com/2017/03/xenophobia-attacks-nigerians-south-africa/amp/

TWoods:


He should stay in Nigeria, there are schools there too.

Omo naija no be country, especially for person wey don tey for ouside.

realone009:


Okay, I'll ask him to try Germany, he is still yet to finish his bachelors, he wasn't even done. Thanks.
Here's the link on xenophobia in S.A, na serious issue o: https://www.google.com.ng/amp/www.vanguardngr.com/2017/03/xenophobia-attacks-nigerians-south-africa/amp/

You said Nigerians are getting killed and I asked how many? Is he going to SA to do petty jobs?

dustydee:

You said Nigerians are getting killed and I asked how many? Is he going to SA to do petty jobs?

I'm not sure how many got killed but according to Vanguard "Many suffered only the destruction of their homes and business while some who lost their lives were not so lucky". Yes he would want to work and study at the same time, so he can save up some more money for himself.

On the visa form, there is a question ''have you been convicted of an offence in any country''. He should get his lawyers to write a statement that explains the whole incident, this statement should be included in future visa applications. He doesn't loose anything by applying to the countries the people above have mentioned, he has a dim chance of being granted anyway. Don't waste time applying to USA or the UK, I wouldn't want to give a convicted Nigerian criminal the opportunity to assault my female friends and colleagues.

realone009:


I'm not sure how many got killed but according to Vanguard "Many suffered only the destruction of their homes and business while some who lost their lives were not so lucky". Yes he would want to work and study at the same time, so he can save up some more money for himself.

Let him try Germany or Mexico or the Caribbean somewhere.

dasparrow:


Let him try Germany or Mexico or the Caribbean somewhere.

I think Germany sounds like a good bet. I've been hearing that alot. Thanks for your opinion, much appreciated.

claremont:
On the visa form, there is a question ''have you been convicted of an offence in any country''. He should get his lawyers to write a statement that explains the whole incident, this statement should be included in future visa applications. He doesn't loose anything by applying to the countries the people above have mentioned, he has a dim chance of being granted anyway. Don't waste time applying to USA or the UK, I wouldn't want to give a convicted Nigerian criminal the opportunity to assault my female friends and colleagues.

Do you know if Germany, and Switzerland asks that question? Do you of any good country that doesn't ask that question. And off course getting a lawyer to write a statement is a good idea.

realone009:


Do you know if Germany, and Switzerland asks that question? Do you of any good country that doesn't ask that question. And off course getting a lawyer to write a statement is a good idea.

Most first world countries ask the conviction question. I suggested Germany because Germany is more interested in wanting to know if you committed crime in your home country than outside your home country. I don't know about Switzerland.

realone009:


I think Germany sounds like a good bet. I've been hearing that alot. Thanks for your opinion, much appreciated.

You're welcome.

dasparrow:


Most first world countries ask the conviction question. I suggested Germany because Germany is more interested in wanting to know if you committed crime in your home country than outside your home country. I don't know about Switzerland.

That makes a lot of sense.Thanks again.

realone009:


So true because a good lawyer would know what to do to help him escape deportation, I heard about something they call ARC Authorisation to Ruturn to Canada, but the process is a bit tricky. Is there another way one can appeal? Its sad cuz Now his is saying stuffs like he thinks his cursed and so on, everything just dey fall apart for am. He's getting depressed.

Bros, tell me say na you do am abeg...stop using your cousin to seek advice.

mryoung16:



Bros, tell me say na you do am abeg...stop using your cousin to seek advice.

Bro, me sef dey reason am. This op moniker seems familiar on canada visa thread and I think he was granted TRV 2years ago or so..I don't know why e dey lie for us here..u assaulted someone get deported omo na wa o
How your side bro? E be like say na Canny u sef dey na I can relate

Mcslize:


But I am wondering why the guy go on fighting in another man's land. Who manage comot naija supposed drop all those naija mentalities na.

Na fight I wan go dey fight for abroad? Even if it's the person that is at fault. This should be a lesson to him.

Na the sign of a spoilt child from home. A well brought up child and that remembers where he comes from and how his parents suffer to get money to send him abroad and that remembers his background disciplines will not be fighting in another mans land knowing fully well , what would land a local in a jail term could land a foreigner deportation. Well...maybe he is one of those politicians children. I live in the US. I'm not a citizen yet. If anyone hear slap my right ear, I will quickly turn the left with thank you on top because I know how I left home and my parents. What do I gain from fighting?

realone009:

I understand, but she didnt say he raped her, it wasn't sexual assault. She said he smacked her but I believe him becuz he really fought the other guy, and he admitted to that, only that the other guy said he hit him first, and called the police on him, he also admitted to that, so why would he lie to us about hitting the girl. His study visa was still okay and he was enrolled that semester; I saw proof.

Regardless, I understand you he may have lied but eventhough he lied or didn't I'd still sympathize with him and tell him to learn from his mistakes then help him move on if he can. This country doesn't impress me at all, and your blood na your blood.

This should be a lesson to others. Forget the sexual assault or smacking someone. Many have been deported for lesser assault e.g utterances of threats, subtle resisting arrest or pushing. The RCMP have also started to charge people for online threats.

You live in canada and should by now understand how the system works. If your lawyer couldnt stop the deportation of your cuz, it's not because he wasnt good enough (becoming a lawyer in Canada is not beans). Main reason is that the law is very clear on assault and deportation. People coming here especially on any sort of immigrant visa should leave the gra-gra at home and endeavor to abide by the rules of this great nation.

drakeli:
Na the sign of a spoilt child from home. A well brought up child and that remembers where he comes from and how his parents suffer to get money to send him abroad and that remembers his background disciplines will not be fighting in another mans land knowing fully well , what would land a local in a jail term could land a foreigner deportation. Well...maybe he is one of those politicians children. I live in the US. I'm not a citizen yet. If anyone hear slap my right ear, I will quickly turn the left with thank you on top because I know how I left home and my parents. What do I gain from fighting?

Exactly. That's it.

mryoung16:



Bros, tell me say na you do am abeg...stop using your cousin to seek advice.

Me ke, wetin this one dey talk, why I no go fit tell u sey na me, and btw wetin concern you sef, wetin that one go add to your life, e go give u money?, help my cousin with ideas if u want to help man. You be winch? how u take know sey na me? Ha Na wa. Abi u be native doctor?

bayocanny:

Bro, me sef dey reason am. This op moniker seems familiar on canada visa thread and I think he was granted TRV 2years ago or so..I don't know why e dey lie for us here..u assaulted someone get deported omo na wa o
How your side bro? E be like say na Canny u sef dey na I can relate

Omo, take the story as e be cuz na true, stop drawing conclusions, Im trying to help him cuz we are blood, u should know what I mean. And I wasn't granted any visa 2 years ago, and no be lie, use the answer u get here if they are helpful to you. My side dey okay, and no be me dey face the problems, and I no dey Canny. Una dey tire person na wa.

drakeli:
Na the sign of a spoilt child from home. A well brought up child and that remembers where he comes from and how his parents suffer to get money to send him abroad and that remembers his background disciplines will not be fighting in another mans land knowing fully well , what would land a local in a jail term could land a foreigner deportation. Well...maybe he is one of those politicians children. I live in the US. I'm not a citizen yet. If anyone hear slap my right ear, I will quickly turn the left with thank you on top because I know how I left home and my parents. What do I gain from fighting?

Guy make teach u, na spoilt kids dey take coke, na hustlin kids wey no been get much dey push chalk, dey do g to survive, fight dey come from anger, anger dey come from frustration. Na people wey no fit control their anger dey fight, some na trouble dey come meet dem, some na devil dey spoil tinz for dem, some na God want make e be like dat for something better to come. You no fit just judge person like that. No let God show you personally wetin happen to the guy so u go fit understand, help people, forgive dem, and encourage dem not bring dem down. Everybody dey find greener pastures, and people dey make miatakes, On the other hand sef people here no be the law, and dem no be God dem probably really no fit answer these questions, but atleast the ones wey dey give ideas dey try, and thumbs up to them for dat.

salford1:

This should be a lesson to others. Forget the sexual assault or smacking someone. Many have been deported for lesser assault e.g utterances of threats, subtle resisting arrest or pushing. The RCMP have also started to charge people for online threats.

You live in canada and should by now understand how the system works. If your lawyer couldnt stop the deportation of your cuz, it's not because he wasnt good enough (becoming a lawyer in Canada is not beans). Main reason is that the law is very clear on assault and deportation. People coming here especially on any sort of immigrant visa should leave the gra-gra at home and endeavor to abide by the rules of this great nation.

I don't leave in Canada, and the lawyer was his. But that thing you said about gra-gra is very true, it starts from home, Naija. People should learn to leave that life. I know this thread is going to save and help someone. And when we help someone, God helps us. What goes around comes around.

realone009:


I don't leave in Canada, and the lawyer was his. But that thing you said about gra-gra is very true, it starts from home, Naija. People should learn to leave that life. I know this thread is going to save and help someone. And when we help someone, God helps us. What goes around comes around.

I don't live in Canada, not leave

Mcslize:


Exactly. That's it.

What's it? Having premarital sex is spolit. A prostitute is spoilt. A drug addict is spoilt. So when a good woman slaps you for cheating on her she's spoilt? Make some sense, or give your ideas, or just read and leave.

realone009:


What's it? Having premarital sex is spolit. A prostitute is spoilt. A drug addict is spoilt. So when a good woman slaps you for cheating on her she's spoilt? Make some sense, or give your ideas, or just read and leave.

A land where you know the law favour the female folks, when one slap u, u supposed turn the other cheek for her. That's what ur bro supposed do. You know abroad babes always take relationship so serious that they won't like to see u with other girls. It is either u stick to her or remain single to avoid this kinda story. Even in places like US u see a gal shooting a guy just because she sees him with another gal. Singleness na sure pass bro in situation like this

realone009:


Omo, take the story as e be cuz na true, stop drawing conclusions, Im trying to help him cuz we are blood, u should know what I mean. And I wasn't granted any visa 2 years ago, and no be lie, use the answer u get here if they are helpful to you. My side dey okay, and no be me dey face the problems, and I no dey Canny. Una dey tire person na wa.

No vex o, na guess I dey guess so..the manner in which u carry the matter for head con be like say na u be the person na why I reason like dat..sorry about that, I feel for your cousin o e for no tresspass na. Well there's hope for him sha.. Me I neva see person wey dey into dat problem before so I no know the kind advice to give, but e fit try european countries except UK cus canada, US and UK share immigrant info..germany, norway, sweden dey there for him or make e try those gulf countries den..lastly, if there's way he can appeal or better still try to know the duration of his ban in canada that would shed more light to the issues at hand.

drakeli:
Na the sign of a spoilt child from home. A well brought up child and that remembers where he comes from and how his parents suffer to get money to send him abroad and that remembers his background disciplines will not be fighting in another mans land knowing fully well , what would land a local in a jail term could land a foreigner deportation. Well...maybe he is one of those politicians children. I live in the US. I'm not a citizen yet. If anyone hear slap my right ear, I will quickly turn the left with thank you on top because I know how I left home and my parents. What do I gain from fighting?

Chai! u don resemble Jesus finish, me sef fit yab you hot slap be dat

bayocanny:

Chai! u don resemble Jesus finish, me sef fit yab you hot slap be dat

No be small thing my brother. With all these noise wey Trump dey make upandan, I don resemble Jesus by force . Because for small thing, you go just land for prison. And if you go to prison for any offense whether small or big, you son get criminal record be that and yourt own don finish. No more job for you. How to fight and argue with people now sef for this country I no even remember again. Why I go fight or argue with you and you go carry gun come shoot me? Na so dem dey shoot shoot, kill kill over small fight for here o.

bayocanny:

No vex o, na guess I dey guess so..the manner in which u carry the matter for head con be like say na u be the person na why I reason like dat..sorry about that, I feel for your cousin o e for no tresspass na. Well there's hope for him sha.. Me I neva see person wey dey into dat problem before so I no know the kind advice to give, but e fit try european countries except UK cus canada, US and UK share immigrant info..germany, norway, sweden dey there for him or make e try those gulf countries den..lastly, if there's way he can appeal or better still try to know the duration of his ban in canada that would shed more light to the issues at hand.

Ehen you no see as you dey think like better person now. Ok so you sabi think like this, omo thats good thinking.