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Re: Starting Up My Vegetable Farm Garden From Scratch (ugwu, Tomato, Green-leaf) by Seun(m): 9:14pm On Jun 13, 2017
jidestroud:
Day 57: (Beetles Infestation)

It's been a very week on my garden. Recently, a new development sprung up on my Corn plants. My Corn kept losing its ears every morning so tonight I decided to keep watch. Lo and behold, This is what I saw; beetles beetles beetles, a very scary sight.

Any suggestions in getting rid of these pests is highly welcomed. As of tonight, I have already hand-picked about 60 of the insects.

Help needed ASAP.
You may need to abandon your organic approach and spray some effective pesticides. You can consciously choose pesticides that are less damaging to the environment than others but are fully effective. There is no advantage to using organic pesticides. They are all poisons.

Alternatively, you could just keep handpicking them nightly until they are all gone. If you are persistent, just like with weeding, it will work.

I've seen pictures of people wrapping developing grains in nylon bags, presumably to protect them from certain pests. It might work for corn.

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Re: Starting Up My Vegetable Farm Garden From Scratch (ugwu, Tomato, Green-leaf) by jidestroud(m): 9:29pm On Jun 13, 2017
Seun:

You may need to abandon your organic approach and spray some effective pesticides. You can consciously choose pesticides that are less damaging to the environment than others but are fully effective. There is no advantage to using organic pesticides. They are all poisons.

Alternatively, you could just keep handpicking them nightly until they are all gone. If you are persistent, just like with weeding, it will work.

I've seen pictures of people wrapping developing grains in nylon bags, presumably to protect them from certain pests. It might work for corn.

Thanks boss. Can't wait for tomorrow. (Still insisting on a organic means though). Sprayed with vegetable oil, they seem to just abandon the sprayed one. Let me keep observing for tonight though.
Re: Starting Up My Vegetable Farm Garden From Scratch (ugwu, Tomato, Green-leaf) by pdozie: 9:35pm On Jun 14, 2017
I agree with Seen on use of inorganic pesticides if it persists.
Take a beetle u picked, spray the neem solution on it as you would if spraying the plants. See if it kills it.

If it dies then ensure you target the plants well while spraying. If not, straight to inorganic pesticides. (Or manual picking)

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Re: Starting Up My Vegetable Farm Garden From Scratch (ugwu, Tomato, Green-leaf) by oyetpel(m): 12:10pm On Jun 15, 2017
Trivia.
Who knows what seed this is??

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Re: Starting Up My Vegetable Farm Garden From Scratch (ugwu, Tomato, Green-leaf) by oyetpel(m): 12:16pm On Jun 15, 2017
Day 25 (Correction of erosion on my maize plant)

This side of the house, the rain is causing the top soil to erode away, so i had to patch some of the maize up with some firm soil to assist them to stand firm and more top soil.

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Re: Starting Up My Vegetable Farm Garden From Scratch (ugwu, Tomato, Green-leaf) by oyetpel(m): 12:20pm On Jun 15, 2017
Day 20 (Weeding operation on my 2nd maize farm)

Front section

So there are some tiny weed growing besides these maize plants, so since i didn't have anywhere to go. I uprooted them off, so that they won't be sucking nutrients meant for my maize.

Re: Starting Up My Vegetable Farm Garden From Scratch (ugwu, Tomato, Green-leaf) by oyetpel(m): 12:21pm On Jun 15, 2017
My snake potatoes seems to be growing well.

Re: Starting Up My Vegetable Farm Garden From Scratch (ugwu, Tomato, Green-leaf) by oyetpel(m): 12:38pm On Jun 15, 2017
Please i need where to get vegetable seeds in ibadan for my small garden.
Re: Starting Up My Vegetable Farm Garden From Scratch (ugwu, Tomato, Green-leaf) by 1kinggy(m): 2:50pm On Jun 15, 2017
oyetpel:
Please i need where to get vegetable seeds in ibadan for my small garden.

Try any agro store for local varieties like pepper, tomato, okro, soko, tete and ewedu. Some of them also have "foreign" veggies. For foreign veggies like radish, cucumber, beetroot, etc, you can get at shoprite.

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Re: Starting Up My Vegetable Farm Garden From Scratch (ugwu, Tomato, Green-leaf) by lovelani(m): 2:50pm On Jun 15, 2017
oyetpel:
Please i need where to get vegetable seeds in ibadan for my small garden.
what type of vegetable? you can get some at agro shop in or around IAR&T apata
Re: Starting Up My Vegetable Farm Garden From Scratch (ugwu, Tomato, Green-leaf) by Ufeolorun(m): 4:09pm On Jun 15, 2017
jidestroud:
Day 50 (The Rains and Diseases)

Sad day for me in my garden. Why won't the rain just stop?!!! Tomato plants and the rains is a no no. It's been a week with barely a day going without the constant downpours. It has started to take its toll on my Tomato plants with many of them coming down with diseases. Had to destroy a couple of them (there's no coming back from it honestly, prevention is the key. Once infected, best option, pull out and dispose appropriately).

Moreover, I have got my pretty little garden flooded.

Time to replace the empty holes with new seedling (Rio degrande), and do a little adjustment to the garden.

1. The need for mulching
2. Use of black nylon bags to cover the whole beds (prevents the rainwater hitting the spoil, splashing on the plant leaves)
3. Spray the whole surroundings (this will be of little benefit though, all will still get washed away by the rain)
4. Get a more resistant variety.

The fluted pumpkins, cucumbers, Lagos spinach, Corn are doing just fine though.

Lesson learnt: Farming is no joke at all biko! It's real business.

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Heartbreaking. You have to raise the Beds a little higher and considering your soil looks sandy,it will cave at the touch of consistent water pressure.
My beds were higher than this but after the rains beat them they caved a little but still OK to drain well if any flooding.

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Re: Starting Up My Vegetable Farm Garden From Scratch (ugwu, Tomato, Green-leaf) by oyetpel(m): 9:35pm On Jun 15, 2017
lovelani:

what type of vegetable? you can get some at agro shop in or around IAR&T apata

Thanks
Re: Starting Up My Vegetable Farm Garden From Scratch (ugwu, Tomato, Green-leaf) by oyetpel(m): 9:37pm On Jun 15, 2017
1kinggy:


Try any agro store for local varieties like pepper, tomato, okro, soko, tete and ewedu. Some of them also have "foreign" veggies. For foreign veggies like radish, cucumber, beetroot, etc, you can get at shoprite.

Thanks
Re: Starting Up My Vegetable Farm Garden From Scratch (ugwu, Tomato, Green-leaf) by jidestroud(m): 9:49pm On Jun 15, 2017
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Thanks for the observation. Will make necessary corrections with the next batch.
Re: Starting Up My Vegetable Farm Garden From Scratch (ugwu, Tomato, Green-leaf) by jidestroud(m): 9:53pm On Jun 15, 2017
oyetpel:
Day 20 (Weeding operation on my 2nd maize farm)

Front section

So there are some tiny weed growing besides these maize plants, so since i didn't have anywhere to go. I uprooted them off, so that they won't be sucking nutrients meant for my maize.

Wow...this is lovely. Please like I said earlier, do make provision for fertilizers. Corns are such heavy feeders, you need to make up for this to get maximum yield.

Keep it up. (I could trade my garden for yours right now grin )
Re: Starting Up My Vegetable Farm Garden From Scratch (ugwu, Tomato, Green-leaf) by oyetpel(m): 10:32pm On Jun 15, 2017
jidestroud:


Wow...this is lovely. Please like I said earlier, do make provision for fertilizers. Corns are such heavy feeders, you need to make up for this to get maximum yield.

Keep it up. (I could trade my garden for yours right now grin )

I am flattered, thanks.

Which fertilizer can you recommend for maize, because i am going to an agro shop tomorrow to buy vegetable seeds.

Also, what type of fertilizer cam you recommend for vegetables.
Re: Starting Up My Vegetable Farm Garden From Scratch (ugwu, Tomato, Green-leaf) by Seun(m): 9:23am On Jun 16, 2017
oyetpel:
My snake potatoes seems to be growing well.
This is great, but pls create a separate thread for updates on your farm. So that it won't look as if you hijacked this thread.

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Re: Starting Up My Vegetable Farm Garden From Scratch (ugwu, Tomato, Green-leaf) by oyetpel(m): 9:38am On Jun 16, 2017
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Re: Starting Up My Vegetable Farm Garden From Scratch (ugwu, Tomato, Green-leaf) by oyetpel(m): 9:41am On Jun 16, 2017
Seun:
This is great, but pls Please create a separate thread for updates on your farm. There is no need to hijack this thread.

Ok thanks, i will.

I am not trying to hijack, i understand that it will clash with jidestroud's work, but he was the one that urged me to post my updates here.
Re: Starting Up My Vegetable Farm Garden From Scratch (ugwu, Tomato, Green-leaf) by jidestroud(m): 1:34pm On Jun 27, 2017
Day 71: Garden Update (Corn first Harvest)

It's been awhile since I last updated on my garden activities. Lol. Well, so far so good, aside for the last loss I suffered with regards to my tomato plants due to heavy downpour of rain, everything has been going on fine.

The corns did perfectly well. @seun, I didn't have to use any insecticides or inorganic chemicals at all. The Vegetable oil did wonders. (Pictures included)

The tomato plants I was able to mulch did very well compared to the ones I didn't. (Now I knw better)

The cabbage is just wooaaah. Doing just fine. (Spraying with homemade neem leave/seed mixtures daaailllly, can't afford insect eating my precious)

And the cucumbers are very much visible on the vines.

The tomato plants in sacks are also doing excellently well to my surprise. The average height of the tomato is about 50 - 60 cm.

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Re: Starting Up My Vegetable Farm Garden From Scratch (ugwu, Tomato, Green-leaf) by Ndbc(m): 3:24pm On Jun 27, 2017
jidestroud:
Day 71: Garden Update (Corn first Harvest)

It's been awhile since I last updated on my garden activities. Lol. Well, so far so good, aside for the last loss I suffered with regards to my tomato plants due to heavy downpour of rain, everything has been going on fine.

The corns did perfectly well. @seun, I didn't have to use any insecticides or inorganic chemicals at all. The Vegetable oil did wonders. (Pictures included)

The tomato plants I was able to mulch did very well compared to the ones I didn't. (Now I knw better)

The cabbage is just wooaaah. Doing just fine. (Spraying with homemade neem leave/seed mixtures daaailllly, can't afford insect eating my precious)

And the cucumbers are very much visible on the vines.

The tomato plants in sacks are also doing excellently well to my surprise. The average height of the tomato is about 50 - 60 cm.

How did you succeed in Cabbage, I have tried to grow Cabbage but it seems not to adapt to my soil.. what's the best method to use ?
Re: Starting Up My Vegetable Farm Garden From Scratch (ugwu, Tomato, Green-leaf) by jidestroud(m): 4:51pm On Jun 27, 2017
Ndbc:


How did you succeed in Cabbage, I have tried to grow Cabbage but it seems not to adapt to my soil.. what's the best method to use ?

First tip to record success in any plant I am to grow in my garden is KNOWING THE SEED TYPE and ITS REQUIREMENTS for growth i.e, Soil for optimum growth.

For the cabbage, as stated earlier, I plant the F1 VICTORY Cabbage. (It's an Hybrid that supports both extreme weather: Excess Heat and Too much rainfall).
I simply nursed it in cups (a seed per cup) and transplated in about 3weeks.
I only transplant healthy ones (main looking at it, you should be able to tell which)

Soil requirements:
Well, wished I had a kit to do the actual soil testing (in the pipeline though), I simply used a well drained sandy-loamy soil. Ofcos, I added my chicken compost for amendments for a more compact soil.

That's all I did. Hope it helped. (Just know the seed you are to plant and read up on it, THAT'S MY SECRET)

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Re: Starting Up My Vegetable Farm Garden From Scratch (ugwu, Tomato, Green-leaf) by irynterri(f): 5:55pm On Jun 27, 2017
Nice job you got here, I'm looking towards planting tomatoes, but the rains are so heavy, I would love if you could give more info on the sack planting,e.g how many seeds per sack,are the sacks indoors or outdoors to prevent the rain + pictures too.. Thanks
Re: Starting Up My Vegetable Farm Garden From Scratch (ugwu, Tomato, Green-leaf) by jidestroud(m): 7:01pm On Jun 27, 2017
irynterri:
Nice job you got here, I'm looking towards planting tomatoes, but the rains are so heavy, I would love if you could give more info on the sack planting,e.g how many seeds per sack,are the sacks indoors or outdoors to prevent the rain + pictures too.. Thanks

Thanks.

On the issue of sacks for planting tomatoes, the root structure of the plants comes into play. The type of tomato (either determinate or indeterminate) will determine if it would do well in sacks or not. Determinates do well in sacks because most are shrub type plants. So my advice is first of all, go for determinate type.

Secondly, one tomato will do per sack. Ofcos, you have to first of all nurse the tomato from the nursery stage up to the transplanting into the sack.

The sack helps in controlling the issues raised with the heavy downpours. You can move the sacks. Lol...I do that most times. Aside that, the raise sacks helps prevent splashes of raindrops hitting the ground.

A picture of my sack tomato is included. Feel free to ask other questions.

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Re: Starting Up My Vegetable Farm Garden From Scratch (ugwu, Tomato, Green-leaf) by Ndbc(m): 7:03pm On Jun 27, 2017
jidestroud:


First tip to record success in any plant I am to grow in my garden is KNOWING THE SEED TYPE and ITS REQUIREMENTS for growth i.e, Soil for optimum growth.

For the cabbage, as stated earlier, I plant the F1 VICTORY Cabbage. (It's an Hybrid that supports both extreme weather: Excess Heat and Too much rainfall).
I simply nursed it in cups (a seed per cup) and transplated in about 3weeks.
I only transplant healthy ones (main looking at it, you should be able to tell which)

Soil requirements:
Well, wished I had a kit to do the actual soil testing (in the pipeline though), I simple used a well drained sandy-loamy soil. Ofcos, I added my chicken compost for amendments for a more compact soil.

That's all I did. Hope it helped. (Just know the seed you are to plant and read up on it, THAT'S MY SECRET)

Thanks for the explanation,

i didn't do nursery process but what i did was to sprout the seed and plant direct to the garden, i also plant with a good soil "full of Organic matter (a mixture of loamy soil, chicken manure and compost) which i normally use only on planting holes.

On the seed aspect, i have not seen any other Cabbage seed to compare with the type i have (F1 though) but i believe that the rain was just too much for the tender sprouts.

I have to follow the nursery process that u used and see what will be the outcome.

Thanks for your help.

Re: Starting Up My Vegetable Farm Garden From Scratch (ugwu, Tomato, Green-leaf) by jidestroud(m): 7:28pm On Jun 27, 2017
Ndbc:


Thanks for the explanation,

i didn't do nursery process but what i did was to sprout the seed and plant direct to the garden, i also plant with a good soil "full of Organic matter (a mixture of loamy soil, chicken manure and compost) which i normally use only on planting holes.

On the seed aspect, i have not seen any other Cabbage seed to compare with the type i have (F1 though) but i believe that the rain was just too much for the tender sprouts.

I have to follow the nursery process that u used and see what will be the outcome.

Thanks for your help.

Glad I could be of help. For best approach, nurse your cabbage seeds first. Then u harden them gradually before transplanting them into mother earth. Even if you where to use dispersal method. You still have to create a level of shade for them and ofcos, you still need to transplant using proper spacing because the heads needs enough spacing when it starts to form.

All the best. Keep me posted on its development.

Attached is a picture of my nursed cabbage. (I plant 2 seeds per cup and later reduce to 1 per cup that's after cutting down the weakling among the two...lol)

Re: Starting Up My Vegetable Farm Garden From Scratch (ugwu, Tomato, Green-leaf) by irynterri(f): 8:04pm On Jun 27, 2017
jidestroud:


Thanks.

On the issue of sacks for planting tomatoes, the root structure of the plants comes into play. The type of tomato (either determinate or indeterminate) will determine if it would do well in sacks or not. Determinates do well in sacks because most are shrub type plants. So my advice is first of all, go for determinate type.thanks, I intend getting my seeds from the local market close to me, I'm not certain the seller understands what is a determinate tomato seed, I would also love if you can share the price of the seeds you got and any idea where I can get it in Abuja?

Secondly, one tomato will do per sack. Ofcos, you have to first of all nurse the tomato from the nursery stage up to the transplanting into the sack.

The sack helps in controlling the issues raised with the heavy downpours. You can move the sacks. Lol...I do that most times. Aside that, the raise sacks helps prevent splashes of raindrops hitting the ground.

A picture of my sack tomato is included. Feel free to ask other questions.
Re: Starting Up My Vegetable Farm Garden From Scratch (ugwu, Tomato, Green-leaf) by irynterri(f): 8:05pm On Jun 27, 2017
jidestroud:


Thanks.

On the issue of sacks for planting tomatoes, the root structure of the plants comes into play. The type of tomato (either determinate or indeterminate) will determine if it would do well in sacks or not. Determinates do well in sacks because most are shrub type plants. So my advice is first of all, go for determinate type.
Secondly, one tomato will do per sack. Ofcos, you have to first of all nurse the tomato from the nursery stage up to the transplanting into the sack.

The sack helps in controlling the issues raised with the heavy downpours. You can move the sacks. Lol...I do that most times. Aside that, the raise sacks helps prevent splashes of raindrops hitting the ground.

A picture of my sack tomato is included. Feel free to ask other questions.
thanks, I intend getting my seeds from the local market close to me, I'm not certain the seller understands what is a determinate tomato seed, I would also love if you can share the price of the seeds you got and any idea where I can get it in Abuja?
Re: Starting Up My Vegetable Farm Garden From Scratch (ugwu, Tomato, Green-leaf) by Ndbc(m): 8:42pm On Jun 27, 2017
jidestroud:


Glad I could be of help. For best approach, nurse your cabbage seeds first. Then u harden them gradually before transplanting them into mother earth. Even if you where to use dispersal method. You still have to create a level of shade for them and ofcos, you still need to transplant using proper spacing because the heads needs enough spacing when it starts to form.

All the best. Keep me posted on its development.

Attached is a picture of my nursed cabbage. (I plant 2 seeds per cup and later reduce to 1 per cup that's after cutting down the weakling among the two...lol)

Thanks, will put it into practice.
Re: Starting Up My Vegetable Farm Garden From Scratch (ugwu, Tomato, Green-leaf) by lekrich: 12:27pm On Jun 28, 2017
jidestroud:


Thanks.

On the issue of sacks for planting tomatoes, the root structure of the plants comes into play. The type of tomato (either determinate or indeterminate) will determine if it would do well in sacks or not. Determinates do well in sacks because most are shrub type plants. So my advice is first of all, go for determinate type.

Secondly, one tomato will do per sack. Ofcos, you have to first of all nurse the tomato from the nursery stage up to the transplanting into the sack.

The sack helps in controlling the issues raised with the heavy downpours. You can move the sacks. Lol...I do that most times. Aside that, the raise sacks helps prevent splashes of raindrops hitting the ground.

A picture of my sack tomato is included. Feel free to ask other questions.

This is so beautiful Op, Now I can grow my very own tomatoes just behind my house in sacks. This about the most practical thread I have ever seen on nairaland. Keep it up. Could you explain the term determinate and indeterminate sir?

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