Henry240:


Dropping bombs in the bush can never be compared to the NAF bombing targets with pin-point accuracy in a fully built up area in a combined assets deployment.

Like i said, show me operational efficiency, maybe then we can talk.

Shinning new toys, we got them

ActivateKruger:


The only invasion that could ever occurred could have been from Zim. So Zim is down and out then nothing will over occur.

My biggest concern with South Africa's defence affairs is the sensationalised media. I once read a main media article years ago banishing the purchase of the Badger. The reporter who obviously had no military background information went on about how many schools would have been built with the money.

As I said, the military should have a black budget and place things under the Secrecy Bill to stop journalists from snooping around on sensitive defence issues.

61mech:
What would you think Zuma and his Indian buddies would do if they had access to a "black budget" with zero oversight ?
Corruption has a far bigger influence over your live in SA (or any other African country) than war.

If there were less secrecy and more oversight when the arms deal happened ,we would have probably ended up with a better deal for the taxpayer and the SANDF. Lots of items on that shopping list came from greedy politicians smelling an easy buck and not necessarily from what the SANDF wanted or needed.

61mech:
What would you think Zuma and his Indian buddies would do if they had access to a "black budget" with zero oversight ?
Corruption has a far bigger influence over your live in SA (or any other African country) than war.

If there were less secrecy and more oversight when the arms deal happened ,we would have probably ended up with a better deal for the taxpayer and the SANDF. Lots of items on that shopping list came from greedy politicians smelling an easy buck and not necessarily from what the SANDF wanted or needed.

Henry240:


Dropping bombs in the bush can never be compared to the NAF bombing targets with pin-point accuracy in a fully built up area in a combined assets deployment.

Like i said, show me operational efficiency, maybe then we can talk.

Shinning new toys, we got them

chkil0:


sorry but when you see this south african technology on the Umbani precision-guided bomb kit for exemple , we dont need to ask more about accuracy , beside the fact that grippen have much better technology of bombing then an F7 or alpha jet

https://www.youtv=zwbTabCqNsI

Henry240:


Dude, anybody can buy technology or a bomb kit. lt is not rocket science. NAF combat videos are available everywhere.

Refute my comment with an intelligent reply.

Show me operational efficiency.

Henry240:


Dude, anybody can buy technology or a bomb kit. lt is not rocket science. NAF combat videos are available everywhere.

Refute my comment with an intelligent reply.

Show me operational efficiency.

61mech:
What would you think Zuma and his Indian buddies would do if they had access to a "black budget" with zero oversight ?
Corruption has a far bigger influence over your live in SA (or any other African country) than war.

If there were less secrecy and more oversight when the arms deal happened ,we would have probably ended up with a better deal for the taxpayer and the SANDF. Lots of items on that shopping list came from greedy politicians smelling an easy buck and not necessarily from what the SANDF wanted or needed.

chkil0:


so you want south african air force to bomb an imaginary local insurgency to have nice videos of terrorist burned ? common ,

algeria for exemple have some terrorist and dont use its fixed wing air force against them only Mi 24 mk III , so i dont inderstand that you expect videos of south african grippen bombing operation in this peaceful country with no internal big insurgency or terrorists ,

and you think seriously that an alpha jet or F7 have better bombing capacity than a grippen with Rafael/Zeiss Optronics LITENING III targeting pod and last guided bombs ? You exaggerate on this point

chkil0:


sorry but when you see this south african technology on the Umbani precision-guided bomb kit for exemple , we dont need to ask more about accuracy , beside the fact that grippen have much better technology of bombing then an F7 or alpha jet


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwbTabCqNsI

chkil0:


so you want south african air force to bomb an imaginary local insurgency to have nice videos of terrorist burned ? common ,

algeria for exemple have some terrorist and dont use its fixed wing air force against them only Mi 24 mk III , so i dont inderstand that you expect videos of south african grippen bombing operation in this peaceful country with no internal big insurgency or terrorists ,

and you think seriously that an alpha jet or F7 have better bombing capacity than a grippen with PS-05/A radar and Rafael/Zeiss Optronics LITENING III targeting pod + last guided bombs technology ? You exaggerate on this point

Henry240:


Dude, anybody can buy technology or a bomb kit. lt is not rocket science.

Henry240:

Operational efficiency, bombing targets with accuracy in a fully built up area.

I didn't ask you to start listing equipment. Take out operations in Nigeria, we have deployed to Cameroun, Chad, Mali and Gambia in recent years.

I can also start listing in our disposal, CH-3A, MI-35M etc etc, but i didn't ask for these.

You cannot compare an Air Force bombing empty fields and running after Rhinos in the bush to the Nigerian Air Force.

All Air Forces conduct exercises, that's nothing new.

tdayof:
A dufus posted up there about NAF bomb on the IDP.

Now, let me tell you some story if you are finding it hard to comprehend.

After investigation, NAF claimed they received information from ground troops on approaching BHT then A-jets were deployed fast with no ISR platform.

The pilot was unable to ID people on ground him self. Now let me tell you, the USAF bombed civilians locations twice already with 4th Generation and 4+ aircrafts after the NAF incident.


NAF described the incident as unfortunate. So back to topic, you bringing up such point means you're a coward with zero point, it's like a guy posting his ex nudes because she broke up with him.

Mr, try an intelligent argument.

jln115:

@chkil0 this ret@rd is calling you a dufus and a coward yet he doesn't even have the balls to quote you.

fufubear:
Let's all just agree that both the SAF and NAF are trash. I like reading a good flamewars but some people here are getting ridiculous.

tdayof:
A dufus posted up there about NAF bomb on the IDP.

Now, let me tell you some story if you are finding it hard to comprehend.

After investigation, NAF claimed they received information from ground troops on approaching BHT then A-jets were deployed fast with no ISR platform.

The pilot was unable to ID people on ground him self. Now let me tell you, the USAF bombed civilians locations twice already with 4th Generation and 4+ aircrafts after the NAF incident.


NAF described the incident as unfortunate. So back to topic, you bringing up such point means you're a coward with zero point, it's like a guy posting his ex nudes because she broke up with him.

Mr, try an intelligent argument.

ssaengine:


*****

tdayof:


It's obvious you can't comprehend. You're actually the dufus here.

Don't bring chkil in here. Your level of pettiness amazes me.