hopefulLandlord:
if you're smart enough to know 1+1=2 you would've seen that this is not an atheist vs theist debate, the first "Doctor" on this thread said he/she is a theist, Christian to be specific

about "holding on to belief" I'd expect people not only question my beliefs, but ridicule them when they're ridiculous. Someone who lets me keep believing the moon is made of green cheese isn't doing me any favors at all.

And if you are smart enough to know that 2+2=4, you would have realised that the female medical doctor whose credentials you were trying to discredit, did not say anything illogical or out of the ordinary. The account given by the patient shows clearly that multiple tests were performed on him, by his Nigerian consultant as well as the Indian and Australian doctors, both before and after he suffered from the ailment.

Are you saying both the foreign & local doctors were lying? As for saying the moon is green...surely, you exaggerate. That comparison does not correlate with the situation on ground. Now, if you'd still like to continue disputing the patient's account..... It is your call. I am done with you.

hopefulLandlord:


aka, "God of the Gaps"

Exactly. A place holder.

hopefulLandlord:


are you sure you're in the UK?

cuz a nurse was recently fired in the UK for offering prayer to patients

That's why I love my job and why I chose doing it this way rather than being cooped up in a hospital where I initially was. Outside those confines I can offer prayer for patients as we journey to hospitals without any resultant backlash and we do it a lot.

laudate:


And if you are smart enough to know that 2+2=4, you would have realised that the female medical doctor whose credentials you were trying to discredit, did not say anything illogical or out of the ordinary. The account given by the patient shows clearly that multiple tests were performed on him, by his Nigerian consultant as well as the Indian and Australian doctors, both before and after he suffered from the ailment.

Are you saying both the foreign & local doctors were lying? As for saying the moon is green...surely, you exaggerate. That comparison does not correlate with the situation on ground. Now, if you still like to continue disputing the patient's account. It is your call. I am done with you.

if you're smart enough to know 3+3=6 you would notice this post of yours doesn't in any way counter mine, I proved that this is not an atheist vs theist debate owing to the fact that the first person said he/she is a Christian and argued with another doctor who is also a Christian

its not a sin to study discussions and understand it, is it?

Toks2008:


An ijebu man can never stoop so low to be jealous of other Nigerian tribes because it's on record that we are the most sophisticated... no need arguing. ...if you want facts just ask for it and I will dish them out in a jiffy.

Too classy to be crassy.

Baba ijebu. Carry ur crassy put 4 pocket em not interested........

spacetacular:


That's why I love my job and why I chose doing it this way rather than being cooped up in a hospital where I initially was. Outside those confines I can offer prayer for patients as we journey to hospitals without any resultant backlash and we do it a lot.

so its not illegal to offer prayers to a patient on the way to hospital but its illegal if one does that in a hospital?

spacetacular:



Why would I not call it by its given name or should I have constructed a non existent name for it? My calling it by name does not show acknowledgement but it shows reference to another position which wasn't mine. Get it?

Lazarus syndrome is a known entity in medicine which is shrouded in mystery so do not make it sound like its a known entity as a fact of medicine which is empirically verifiable. That would be dishonesty.

Why don't you try this. The next time a person dies on your watch and you try resuscitation and it does not work, do not put down time of death but leave him to experience the Lazarus syndrome since all who came back according to you all had resuscitation attempts first carried out on them.

Try this on 100 dead people under your watch then state your observations. Deal?

Spontaneous remission of cancers is a known entity in medicine, with thousands of occurrences. Theories have been put forward, some more convincing than the others, that doesn't make it any less of a medical entity.

I've never submitted that all patients that had resuscitation attempts will achieve Autoresuscitation.

If a patient dies on my watch, after resuscitation attempts, I'll call it.
If the person regains spontaneous circulation, that's all swell. Just know that I won't call it a miracle though.

hopefulLandlord:
if you're smart enough to know 3+3=6 you would notice this post of yours doesn't in any way counter mine, I proved that this is not an atheist vs theist debate owing to the fact that the first person said he/she is a Christian and argued with another doctor who is also a Christian

its not a sin to study discussions and understand it, is it?

And if you are smart enough to know that 4+4=8, you would have realised that my initial post was not focused on an atheist vs. theist debate. I merely objected to the fact that one doctor was attacking another doctor by questioning her credentials, simply because she had made a statement borne out of her beliefs. Abeg, just swerve and stop seeking attention like a toddler.

MzJin:






No....just Dat variety Is the spice of life..... u know bro.

YEE

MzJin:


You never can tell iooooooo......besides deputy na good position

wow I never knew.

hopefulLandlord:


so its not illegal to offer prayers to a patient on the way to hospital but its illegal if one does that in a hospital?

Prayer is not illegal in hospitals here. Just that some people tend to push extremes which I have personally witnessed so I resolved to "suffer a temporary loss" by going out on the road in order to be able to do this without anyone making a video or complaining. If a Patient can only find comfort from God in a time of distress why should I deny them that comfort? We would pray together even while they have been strapped down and hooked up in the van.

CatfishBilly:

Shey you see, other healthcare professionals are calling out Space.tacular, let it not be that I was saying that I'm ignorant of.
Maybe you 2 can learn a thing or two.
Lazarus Syndrome is not a miracle.

A syndrome is not an explanation.
Maybe u need to check a dictionary.
The last time I checked, u couldn't explain the pathophysiology which is as good as the reason behind it
You also couldn't tell us your specialty.

laudate:


And if you are smart enough to know that 4+4=8, you would have realised that my initial post was not focused on an atheist vs. theist debate. I merely objected to the fact that one doctor was attacking another doctor, by questioning her credentials simply because she had made a statement borne out of her beliefs. Abeg, just swerve and stop seeking attention like a toddler.

lol, attention seeking toddler indeed, look in the mirror to see one

in your initial post, you said Spacetacular should "leave the atheists alone" even though the discussion isn't about atheism or theism at all

try using your brain, a trial would convince you

dalaman:


Mumu that can't read.
Felixmumu,
Shebi you said Mumudeen is an argument.
Mr lie lie blockheaded doctor.

No wonder you are
Dullard-man,
If you don't have any meaningful talk,
Allow those who can spell to come forward.

Ciao

CatfishBilly:

Spontaneous remission of cancers is a known entity in medicine, with thousands of occurrences. Theories have been put forward, some more convincing than the others, that doesn't make it any less of a medical entity.

I've never submitted that all patients that had resuscitation attempts will achieve Autoresuscitation.

If a patient dies on my watch, after resuscitation attempts, I'll call it.
If the person regains spontaneous circulation, that's all swell. Just know that I won't call it a miracle though.

We are not talking about cancer. We are talking about death and autoresuscitation not spontaneous remission and you and I know why you would rather drop dead than agree that your Lazarus syndrome is not tenable in medicine as it is not an empirically verifiable medical position but simply an attempt to give a name to a mystery.

hopefulLandlord:
lol, attention seeking toddler indeed, look in the mirror to see one

in your initial post, you said Spacetacular should "leave the atheists alone" even though the discussion isn't about atheism or theism at all

try using your brain, a trial would convince you

Yeah...thank you for letting us know that you are truly an attention seeking toddler. In your own little world, using the phrase "leave the atheists alone," is synonymous with an atheism vs. theism debate? Feel free to continue ranting. Here, you can have the floor...

felixomor:

No wonder you are
Dullard-man,
If you don't have any meaningful talk,
Allow those who can spell to come forward.

Ciao

No wonder you are Felixmumu.
Keep deluding yourself that you've been making sense with statement like Mumudeen is an argument.
Allow those that can read to come forward.
Cheers.

laudate:


Yeah...thank you for letting us know that you are truly an attention seeking toddler. In your own little world, using the phrase "leave the atheists alone," is synonymous with an atheist vs. theist debate? Feel free to continue ranting. Here, you can have the floor...

your psychological projection game is not up to scratch at all

nothing in their discussions so far involves atheism, I get this a lot from "intelligent" people like you, you can't get past labels or poisoning the well fallacy to have intelligent discussion and learn

all that's happened so far is "medical talk", nothing concerns "atheists", people that are engaging Spacetacular all claim to be in the medical field, a Christian also did for good measure

and this is the third time you're telling me you're done and its variations, don't you think you should put your money where your mouth is

dalaman:


No wonder you are Felixmumu.
Keep deluding yourself that you've been making sense with statement like Mumudeen is an argument.
Allow those that can read to come forward.
Cheers.

Hehehehe
Dullard-mama

hopefulLandlord:
your psychological projection game is not up to scratch at all

nothing in their discussions so far involves atheism, I get this a lot from "intelligent" people like you, you can't get past labels or poisoning the well fallacy to have intelligent discussion and learn

all that's happened so far is "medical talk", nothing concerns "atheists", people that are engaging Spacetacular all claim to be in the medical field, a Christian also did for good measure

and this is the third time you're telling me you're done and its variations, don't you think you should put your money where your mouth is

Continue ranting....Mr. Pseudo-intellectual.

felixomor:


Hehehehe
Dullard-mama

Felix-moronn

dalaman:


Felix-moronn

By the way, are you still looking for "Jesus" in the koran?

felixomor:


By the way, are you still looking for "Jesus" in the koran?

Baa baa baa sheep.

dalaman:


Baa baa baa sheep.

As if that was not enough,
U came and told us that Nigeria is more religious than Saudi arabia.....

Chai...

felixomor:

As if that was not enough,
U came and told us that Nigeria is more religious than Saudi arabia.....

Chai...

Just the way you told us that you are a doctor with a specialty.

dalaman:


Just the way you told us that you are a doctor with a specialty.

Hehehehe, so you purposely lied ba.....

Like the one on Ebuka not going to church too?
Hmmm

CatfishBilly:

It has been found to occur in patients in whom resuscitation was attempted with medical literature to back them up.
Isn't that significant?
At least, you now agree that Lazarus Syndrome is a thing. In our last conversation it sure didn't sound like it.

Lol, you wanna initiate another drama àbí...

Kwantinue.

spacetacular:


We are not talking about cancer. We are talking about death and autoresuscitation not spontaneous remission and you and I know why you would rather drop dead than agree that your Lazarus syndrome is not tenable in medicine as it is not an empirically verifiable medical position but simply an attempt to give a name to a mystery.

What will you do when science finally describes the pathophysiology behind Autoresuscitation? Declare that there is no god or move on to another medical "mystery"?


Attempt to give a name to Medical mystery is nothing new. Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy when it was initially being studied was thought to happen only to boxers so it was called Dementia Pugilistica but through the good works of Dr. Bennett Omalu, we now know exactly how it happens.
What if Dr. Omalu took the easy way out and said it was god?

felixomor:

Hehehehe, so you purposely lied ba.....

Like the one on Ebuka not going to church too?
Hmmm

Mr lie lie. You lied that you are a doctor with a specialty on purpose abi? Same way you lied that Yahweh had some imaginary agreement with the Amalekites.

adepeter26:
Lol, you wanna initiate another drama àbí...
Kwantinue.

you like wahala

dalaman:


Mr lie lie. You lied that you are a doctor with a specialty on purpose abi? Same way you lied that Yahweh had some imaginary agreement with the Amalekites.

At least mine is imaginary ?
Beisdes everyone knows i explained the amalekite scripture on that same page.
(I will post the mention soon to disgrace u once again here)

Before i do that,
So is that why u lied that Ebuka Doesnt go to church?

felixomor:


A syndrome is not an explanation.
Maybe u need to check a dictionary.
The last time I checked, u couldn't explain the pathophysiology which is as good as the reason behind it
You also couldn't tell us your specialty.

That there's no foolproof explanation now doesn't mean that there won't be one tomorrow.
What now happens then? Render god powerless?