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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Lionessza(f): 6:35pm On Jun 22, 2017
QueenOfNepal:
angry I love learning from the other side. My friend here has made Zuma a Saint.

I'm not surprised he led SA twice into recession because he has same thought process like buhari.


Eph321 come and read about the Zuma they refused to tel us about











Who made zuma a saint? So you expected me to lie and say nothing has changed in the country since he took over ?. I've been saying I'm no fan of his but not everything about his government has been shytty.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 6:36pm On Jun 22, 2017
QueenOfNepal:
Zuma should have done mor. We are talking about an attack of foreign nationals and you are passing it off as a local fight between two Xhosa.



What he should have done is deport all Nigerians to protect them from attacks. This is my only issue with Zuma.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Isahalbash(m): 6:36pm On Jun 22, 2017
QueenOfNepal:
undecided Is that all



I dunno
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:36pm On Jun 22, 2017
jln115:

Zupta has made no progress......... all he would ever be known for is being the only President who has led SA to 2 recessions......the second being 100% avoidable.

How you can even think of choosing Zuma above presidents like Ian Khama or Saara kuugongelwa is beyond me.

Lastly he has brought nothing more with regards to infrastructure than the presidents before him.

Not even the patriot in me could ever defend that man.
And it was that maniac called Malema that help put that two-headed psycho in power angry .If I had a sniper I would have JFK'ed Zuma long time ago

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ednited(f): 6:36pm On Jun 22, 2017
Isahalbash:



Yes of course... You knw their attitudes toward Nigeriagrin
Am just sympathising with Nigeria in advancegrin
Tho they haven't said anything bad.
Looks like someone's taking my advice. . .grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 6:39pm On Jun 22, 2017
Hati13:

It isn't the flag of Oromia region in Ethiopia. It's the flag of Oneg(Oromo Liberation Front).

Oneg was formed during the Derg regin(1974-1991) and it's objective is to create an independent Oromia country. It's trying to achieve this by using propaganda. It's indoctrinating Oromos, especially young Oromos that they had been directly oppressed and colonized by Abyssinians(especially by Shewa Amharas) from 1880s till 1974 and from indirectly from 1974 till present.

Now, let me tell you the truth. Oromos hadn't been colonized. Atse Menelik II(Shewa Amhara) expanded to SW, S and SE of Abyssinia to conquer the previously lost territories because of Abyssinia-Adal war and Oromo population movement. Only few areas were newly conquered. The other truth is, most of Menelik soldiers were Oromo themselves. The great Generals who mostly achieved this objective was also Oromo(Shewa Oromo to be specific) named Ras Gobana Dacca. Gobana was the first Oromo elite to be Christianized and Amharanized. Some unpatriotic Oromos consider him as a betrayal, but Abyssinians and patriotic Ethiopians consider him as a hero.

Some southern Oromos also supported Ras Gobana and the Ethiopian centralization was "welcomed as a way to put an end" to 'intertribal fighting' between the Oromo communities. So most Oromo and Christian Gurage territories reunificated peacefully. Some Oromo territories, Muslim Gurages, Silts, Hararis, Sidama, Wolyata and few were conquered by force.

The bad thing was, some Menelik army had carried out large scale atrocities(torture, mass killings and large scale slavery) against the some Oromos, Dizi people and the people of the Kaficho kingdom. Some estimates that the number of people killed as a result of the conquest from war, famine and atrocities go into the millions. According to Alexander Bulatovich, Menelik's Russian military aide, Menelik's armies "dreadfully annihilated more than half of the Oromo(Galla) population down to 5 million people. This took away from the Gallas(Oromos)all possibility of thinking about any sort of uprising.

Let me tell you also Oromos atrocities. During their population movement from mid 16th century to early 18th, they massacred, mutated organs and enslaved many Amharas and other ethnicities. They enlarged their territories very big and many different ethnic groups were assimilated and became Oromos. Those that resisted faced horrible atrocities like their organs were mutated while they are alive. Most of Abyssinia territories were taken and some Oromos like Yejjus, Wellos and Rays penetrated further north and settled in Bete-Amhara and southern Tigray areas. Bete Amhara was an historical place for Amharas because it was in this place where Amharas and Amhara culture originated. The Oromos in that area massacred and tortured many Amharas. The Wello Oromos changed the name Bete Amhara to Wello in 1855.

Do I support what Menelik soldiers atrocities against the Oromos? Yes, I support. They faced the same thing what they did to others, so I believe they deserved it.

Oromos can leave Ethiopia if they want. I don't care, but they can't take all the Oromo territories with them.

Great piece. You guys really have some strong history.

**** You see, this is one reason why Nigerian governmt has removed history from our academic curriculum because Nigerian kingdoms & empires in the past fought terrible wars, conquered n enslaved each other n many more bitter things.

>>>>For instance, the kingdom i descended from (Kwararafa kingdom) n the kingdom someone like Ishalbash here descended from (Kanem- Bornu kingdom) were very bitter enemies in the past who attacked n mutilated themselves. N not to talk of how my people were continously attacked n raided for slaves by Islamic Hausa-fulani kingdoms (emirates) n some were islamized.

Now if these kind of things are repeatedly taught to young Nigerians, they would grow up hating each other for no reason.
Infact we are facing serious hatred already, not to talk if we add these bitter histories. Or is it the Nigerian civil war where over 3 million lives were lost? History is just very bitter.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Isahalbash(m): 6:40pm On Jun 22, 2017
ednited:



You are right on that. I really admire Nigerian govt btw. You must thank God. Yours is democratic for real



I like ur sincerity wenedemgrin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by freshest4live: 6:43pm On Jun 22, 2017
ednited:



Why so in beef with Kenyans? Guys please stop fighting and stuffs


NO ONE IS AHEAD THE OTHER
Lol no beef dear, why should we beef them? If you read back, you'll see that they mock genieluv on her love for such things. They wouldn't disagree with me.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 6:43pm On Jun 22, 2017
ednited:


Really? Wow,

They are BEAUTIFUL!!!!! AMAZING!!

@TayserMahiri, mtis would love to see Kenyan wedding ceremony too

Yaaah they are. I don't think Kenyans do traditional weddings. They are 'European Africans' culturally. Lol
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Isahalbash(m): 6:43pm On Jun 22, 2017
QueenOfNepal:
Yes. Fulani herdsmen will lose their protective cover



U mean Fulani herdmens dat have bn killing bfore I was born?grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:43pm On Jun 22, 2017
ednited:



But trust me, Ethiopia need a type of dictator who can't allow tribal controveries and begging on streets not working. Only for Ethiopia, that's how it will work

@Hati13, don't get mad at me but I was given a chance to rule ET. I will be a scary dictator. I am serious
I totally agree with you. Begging is a very huge problem and it makes me angry when some of beg and degrade Ethiopia reputation when they can at least work low level works. Begging is becoming a big business and this needs to stop.

But my question is how can you stop ethnic controversies? Who's culture will be adapted as a national culture? If it's going to be Amhara or Agew, I will agree smiley
If not, then..... angry

I believe I'm talking the future first female Dictator PM of Ethiopia. cool Isn't right Ednited?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Lionessza(f): 6:43pm On Jun 22, 2017
Jayceon:
And it was that maniac called Malema that help put that two-headed psycho in power angry .If I had a sniper I would have JFK'ed Zuma long time ago








Hahahaha, Jace I wish I could fuckn shoot the whole anc top six.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jay254(m): 6:44pm On Jun 22, 2017
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ednited(f): 6:45pm On Jun 22, 2017
Isahalbash:



I like ur sincerity wenedemgrin

kikikikikiiki
am 'ehit'- sister
wendem means brother
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:47pm On Jun 22, 2017
Lionessza:









Lol, he can point the gau , the new university and the roads financed by government being built all over the country.
Lived in Pretoria most of my life, there were road works everyday since I was born ! So nothing special about building roads, Mbeki built roads and so did Mandela .

Also I'm not very impressed by 2 tiny universities and the gautrain was financed by the Mbeki regime not Zuma.

I judge presidents on how the country's economy preforms.....why? Well because a strong economy is the solution to 99% of a country's problems, a strong economy creates jobs, financed infrastructure, decreases crime, lowers poverty ect ect a weak one those the exact opposite.

Mandela's regime brought us from a recession stricken Junk status economy to one with possitive growth and a very good credit rating, Mbeki grew the economy at 5%.......Zuma has destroyed all that hard work in half the time.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ednited(f): 6:47pm On Jun 22, 2017
genieluv:


Yaaah they are. I don't think Kenyans do traditional weddings. They are 'European Africans' culturally. Lol


lol, lets just see what they will be posting
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Isahalbash(m): 6:48pm On Jun 22, 2017
QueenOfNepal:
No he is a Yoruba. undecided





gringringrin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:49pm On Jun 22, 2017
ednited:


If they take their territory they will also take Addis Ababa. Hati13, where we both be ending up?? undecided
We will not going to leave Ednited. We will fight not only to keep Addis, but also west, south and east Shewa.

If we needs to leave and fight later, I would go to Debre Brehan(north Shewa) or Bete Amhara(Wello) or Wag Hemra.

What about you?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:50pm On Jun 22, 2017
Jayceon:
And it was that maniac called Malema that help put that two-headed psycho in power angry .If I had a sniper I would have JFK'ed Zuma long time ago
What if I borrowed you my .303 cool cool
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 6:51pm On Jun 22, 2017
Hati13:

It's very beautiful. Is it northern Nigerians dress(since you are northern)?

Our Habesha libs(cloth) is bulky, but not bulky like yours.

Do you guys usually wear traditional clothes or for festivals?

Naaah, those clothes belong mostly to Yorubas (South-western Nigerians) buh they are also worn by other groups.
Here are northern Nigerian clothes (core-northern)

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:51pm On Jun 22, 2017
Lionessza:









Hahahaha, Jace I wish I could fuckn shoot the whole anc top six.
lol

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:52pm On Jun 22, 2017
Isahalbash:






gringringrin
Stop following me around, it's getting irritating. Allow me to mix with other African sisters. I will have your time when your demi god in London is brought back.


I'm not repying you again.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jay254(m): 6:52pm On Jun 22, 2017
arinzeejikonye:
Nigeria which way?
Even the devil trembles on how devilish you demonize yourself,

Why all the killing, backbiting, bloodshed, devastating dehumanization

Happy bday Arinze.

You are so sad today, what is happening at home?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:54pm On Jun 22, 2017
Jayceon:
And it was that maniac called Malema that help put that two-headed psycho in power angry .If I had a sniper I would have JFK'ed Zuma long time ago
If by chance you come across such power kindly collect two to do a double on Zuma and buhari
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ednited(f): 6:56pm On Jun 22, 2017
Hati13:

I totally agree with you. Begging is a very huge problem and it makes me angry when some of beg and degrade Ethiopia reputation when they can at least work low level works. Begging is becoming a big business and this needs to stop.

But my question is how can you stop ethnic controversies? Who's culture will be adapted as a national culture? If it's going to be Amhara or Agew, I will agree smiley
If not, then..... angry

I believe I'm talking the future first female Dictator PM of Ethiopia. cool Isn't right Ednited?


By the way, I now come to understand how dictators will be created, it's because they have a big sensitivity to their country. Some go wrong but this is the main reason.

My first step would be removing the tribe section on our ye newari metawekia

Kezama tigray nesh Amhara, be tribe mitala maser ejemiralehu. Ye Ethiopian hizb andande reget kalarekew aygebawim. Koshasha metaya azegajtehlet meret lay yemitel hizb eko new yalen

Ene timhert bet erasu koshasha meret lay endaytal beye kiflu eyanegagerku endaytilu wereket eletif nebr


esum altesakam undecided
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:56pm On Jun 22, 2017
jln115:

What if I borrowed you my .303 cool cool
I would gladly appreciate smiley.i'll get him on his flight to Dubai

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:56pm On Jun 22, 2017
jln115:

Lived in Pretoria most of my life, there were road works everyday since I was born ! So nothing special about building roads, Mbeki built roads and so did Mandela .

Also I'm not very impressed by 2 tiny universities and the gautrain was financed by the Mbeki regime not Zuma.

I judge presidents on how the country's economy preforms.....why? Well because a strong economy is the solution to 99% of a country's problems, a strong economy creates jobs, financed infrastructure, decreases crime, lowers poverty ect ect a weak one those the exact opposite.

Mandela's regime brought us from a recession stricken Junk status economy to one with possitive growth and a very good credit rating, Mbeki grew the economy at 5%.......Zuma has destroyed all that hard work in half the time.
Take this Igbo dish and continue

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ednited(f): 6:57pm On Jun 22, 2017
Hati13:

We will not going to leave Ednited. We will fight not only to keep Addis, but also west, south and east Shewa.

If we needs to leave and fight later, I would go to Debre Brehan(north Shewa) or Bete Amhara(Wello) or Wag Hemra.

What about you?


Bahir dar grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:05pm On Jun 22, 2017
QueenOfNepal:
If by chance you come across such power kindly collect two to do a double on Zuma and buhari
It would be my pleasure,Africa needs fresh minds to lead.does it not bother you that in other parts of the world they got 32-year-old presidents while Africa is stuck with old power hungry block heads? angry

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Isahalbash(m): 7:05pm On Jun 22, 2017
ephi321:


All because you want to famz. Have some dignity dude.




Lolz! Not really, ur monikers r obvious here on Nairaland.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:06pm On Jun 22, 2017
Lionessza:












Who made zuma a saint? So you expected me to lie and say nothing has changed in the country since he took over ?. I've been saying I'm no fan of his but not everything about his government has been shytty.
Two contrary opinion here said everything about Zuma is shitty which i feel happy buying because it needs more than bleach to wash Zuma's clueless off
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:09pm On Jun 22, 2017
Jayceon:
It would be my pleasure,Africa needs fresh minds to lead.does it not bother you that in other parts of the world they got 32-year-old presidents while Africa is stuck with old power hungry block heads? angry
An Africa stuck with Buhari, Zuma, Mugabe, Museveni, Biya cannot make any headway in a computer age. These grandpas i mentioned can't open a new Twitter account on their own

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