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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Marcelo290(m): 10:02am On Jun 23, 2017
ednited:



Because I think he's democratic, fights corruption and fight terrorism.

You guys have a choice, you can un elect him next tym. While we are stuck with the- - - -. You know am not even sure how safe I am having all these words about my govt.

Don't expect no probs from a govt. Only expect the least. You guys think the problem you are facing now is bigger than under the rule of Johnathan? or vice versa?
Don't ever put Jonathan and Buhari in one sentence again, there is no comparison! Buhari is an abyssal failure! He is a tribal bigot, also lacks what it takes to govern a 21st century country, his 97 and 5% statement during his early days in office is one reason you see ethnic divisions/haterd and bashing even here on NL. His useless policies and appointments has brought the country to a halt, while Jonathan appointed technocrats in various fields to run the country, Buhari who it took almost 7 months to appoint his ministers did so with much sentiments and along ethic/tribal lines, Jonathan wasn't a tribalist, Buhari is... check most of his appointments and you would see the definition of tribalism aside what he says, most are from one section of the country.

Jonathan was a great leader, naturally, he is a good man, he embarked on huge infrastructural development, built 12 new federal universities to make sure each state has one, (this helped to reduce tension in the country thus emphasizing that what is good for the goose is also good for the gander), he revived our trains which stopped working about 30 years ago hitherto, built 130 almajiri schools for the northerners who so hated him, gave subsidies to farmers as to increase yield, made favourable policies and provided a good environment for local and foreign investors, all his major appointments were held by technocrats who were intellectuals in the field not minding the region they came from, this in contrast to Buhari who made appointments along religious, tribal, party and ethic lines, there was meritocracy rather than the mediocre we have now, our current minister for power is a Lawyer, minister for Petroleum same, now tell me the correlation. Even sensitive positions that ought to be handled by intellectuals like the ICT, Agriculture, Education etc are held by old dummies who don't know shii.

I can go on and on, a liberal democrat who despite the critics, he didn't hurt a fly, sponsored many Nigerians scholarship abroad, have you heard of the Abuja centenary city? have you heard of the world's Trade Centre in Abuja? these and many more infrastructural developments are his brainchild, that is the kind of man I would like to call my leader, an educated and experienced man who has seen life from both ends, his shortcomings was the media, he didn't make good use of it, he felt since he was doing well for all to see, he would still be voted, but you know how gullible some people are, easily brainwashed, mostly the core northerners, Buhari came to power with no plans to solve the problems he pointed out with is "Change and fight corruption mantra"... now many are crying and wishing Jonathan would come back.

He would award projects without proper scruntization of the cost which led to embezzlement, that was his major short fall, he lacked that bit of dictator spirit which every African leader ought to have, so anybody you hear insult Jonathan or said he did nothing, just know that person is a tribalist or just choose to be blind.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 10:02am On Jun 23, 2017
mtis:

undecided undecided

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ao3JcT2Ahbg

Is she Kenyan? If yes, then it's cool. I hope things like this are promoted by Kenyans themselves.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Lionessza(f): 10:03am On Jun 23, 2017
mtis:


I really do like the guy an usually read how Trumptards are so pissed with him










Hahahaha, they really hate him and want his ass deported back to South Africa grin. They should send him back , we miss him down here.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ednited(f): 10:04am On Jun 23, 2017
genieluv:


Thanks.
Well, most neighbouring Nigerian countries do not really have a variety of African clothes like Nigeria buh they still do wear. Nigerians we developed ours far better than theirs.
The man's upper cloth, hmm, well i'm not sure the material it was made of. Cos we have many of such materials n also import many.

****Here are some samples of cultural clothes of other west africans. Ednited check them out.

Cameroonians
Ghanaians
Senegalese


WOW, is there a name for the attire?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ednited(f): 10:05am On Jun 23, 2017
Lionessza:








Lol, I love him too and hope he doesn't get deported soon for his frequent Trump jokes grin. Do you watch his show?.

Not his show. But his standup shows


grin grin grin grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 10:08am On Jun 23, 2017
Hati13:


And also let me show you the Afar people(they live largely in Ethiopia and in small number in Eritrea and Djibouti).

I have heard of the Afar people. Are they cushitic?

**** They look quite different from other horn-africans, except for the lady. Why does the lady look very different facially from the men?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ednited(f): 10:08am On Jun 23, 2017
Marcelo290:
Don't ever put Jonathan and Buhari in one sentence again, there is no comparison! Buhari is an abyssal failure! He is a tribal bigot, also lacks what it takes to govern a 21st century country, his 97 and 5% statement during his early days in office is one reason you see ethnic divisions/haterd and bashing even here on NL. His useless policies and appointments has brought the country to a halt, while Jonathan appointed technocrats in various fields to run the country, Buhari who it took almost 7 months to appoint his ministers did so with much sentiments and along ethic/tribal lines, Jonathan wasn't a tribalist, Buhari is... check most of his appointments and you would see the definition of tribalism aside what he says, most are from one section of the country.

Jonathan was a great leader, naturally, he is a good man, he embarked on huge infrastructural development, built 12 new federal universities to make sure each state has one, (this helped to reduce tension in the country thus emphasizing that what is good for the goose is also good for the gander), he revived our trains which stopped working about 30 years ago hitherto, built 130 almajiri schools for the northerners who so hated him, gave subsidies to farmers as to increase yield, made favourable policies and provided a good environment for local and foreign investors, all his major appointments were held by technocrats who were intellectuals in the field not minding the region they came from, this in contrast to Buhari who made appointments along religious, tribal, party and ethic lines, there was meritocracy rather than the mediocre we have now, our current minister for power is a Lawyer, minister for Petroleum same, now tell me the correlation. Even sensitive positions that ought to be handled by intellectuals like the ICT, Agriculture, Education etc are held by old dummies who don't know shii.

I can go on and on, a liberal democrat who despite the critics, he didn't hurt a fly, sponsored many Nigerians scholarship abroad, have you heard of the Abuja centenary city? have you heard of the world's Trade Centre in Abuja? these and many more infrastructural developments are his brainchild, that is the kind of man I would like to call my leader, an educated and experienced man who has seen life from both ends, his shortcomings was the media, he didn't make good use of it, he felt since he was doing well for all to see, he would still be voted, but you know how gullible some people are, easily brainwashed, mostly the core northerners, Buhari came to power with no plans to solve the problems he pointed out with is "Change and fight corruption mantra"... now many are crying and wishing Jonathan would come back.

He would award projects without proper scruntization of the cost which led to embezzlement, that was his major short fall, he lacked that bit of dictator spirit which every African leader ought to have, so anybody you hear insult Jonathan or said he did nothing, just know that person is a tribalist or just choose to be blind.



All ya have different opinions on your current govt. undecided
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Lionessza(f): 10:11am On Jun 23, 2017
ednited:


Not his show. But his standup shows


grin grin grin grin












Ok great smiley. He's really fun , I wish he could release a new video about the current political situation in SA coz I know he makes great zuma jokes grin. Does Ethiopia have stand up comedians?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by freshest4live: 10:11am On Jun 23, 2017
Lionessza:



I think the biggest problem in Africa is lack of education. When the majority of a nation is educated , you won't find civil wars, the people will come up with reasonable solutions for the problems they are facing. Until Africans invests heavily on educating it's people, we will never stop hearing of civil wars and tribal wars. I'm not a fan of zuma but I respect him for giving a big part of our budget to education. Diversity yes does have its advantages, you get to learn a lot from each other's ways . Lol @ slaves, we all know those are the butthurt ones who hate anything progressive because they are not progressing but regressing.
You are wrong, civil wars are not majorly caused by lack of education. America had a civil war at a point even with high literacy rate. The first and second world wars were fought by very educated men.
For now, l reserve my comment on the slave/white/regressing issue.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 10:11am On Jun 23, 2017
Nabhani:


Everyone that is born and raised in TZ speak Swahili as their mother tongue. I swear, nowhere in the world have Arabs assimilated into the local population as they have in East Africa. its quite impressive when you compare them to the North African Arabs for example.

Kk. So, does that mean that no Tanzanian speaks his/her native languages as a first language other than swahili? If yes, then the native languages must be going extinct?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:11am On Jun 23, 2017
Marcelo290:
Don't ever put Jonathan and Buhari in one sentence again, there is no comparison! Buhari is an abyssal failure! He is a tribal bigot, also lacks what it takes to govern a 21st century country, his 97 and 5% statement during his early days in office is one reason you see ethnic divisions/haterd and bashing even here on NL. His useless policies and appointments has brought the country to a halt, while Jonathan appointed technocrats in

.....


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I wouldn't comment much on Jonathan development thingy coz am not from naija but have to agree to a certain degree with what you said..had a friend from North (Fulani or Hausa can't remember) before election an I can tell many guys from north did not like Jonathan ..it wasn't because of development stuff but more to do with tribal or even religious affiliation.

The guy told me Jonathan will loss an when that happens the guy will travel back to naija.an that what happened..
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:21am On Jun 23, 2017
angry That's the problem of Nigeria. The country is polarised along Muslim North and Christian South. The North see government as a career so they make sure they use gerrymandering to create more voting blocks for themselves thereby staying in power in perpetuity
mtis:


I wouldn't comment much on Jonathan development thingy coz am not from naija but have to agree to a certain degree with what you said..had a friend from North (Fulani or Hausa can't remember) before election an I can tell many guys from north did not like Jonathan ..it wasn't because of development stuff but more to do with tribal or even religious affiliation
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:22am On Jun 23, 2017
Lionessza:











Hahahaha, they really hate him and want his ass deported back to South Africa grin. They should send him back , we miss him down here.

I like the joke where Puerto Ricans confuse him as their own grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:24am On Jun 23, 2017
Nowenuse:


Is Adis an Oromo territory? I always tot it was amhara? Are amharas not the dominant population there?
Addis isn't Oromo territory. It's federal territory surrounded by Oromia region.

Even if Addis inhabitants are from all over the country, majority are Amharas. Oromos are 2nd.

It was Shewa Amhara Menelik II who founded Addis Ababa, so Addis should belong to Amharas. By the way, I'm north Shewa Amhara. cool

Addis is found in west Shewa.

Shewa history is complicated, but very interesting. Read about it.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shewa
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Lionessza(f): 10:25am On Jun 23, 2017
freshest4live:

You are wrong, civil wars are not majorly caused by lack of education. America had a civil war at a point even with high literacy rate. The first and second world wars were fought by very educated men.
For now, l reserve my comment on the slave/white/regressing issue.










Then what is the cause of all these civil and tribal wars in Africa?. @ the bolded , you are free to entertain them anytime you want.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by freshest4live: 10:25am On Jun 23, 2017
mtis:


True true..but can I also suggest the quality of education grin coz looking at what is happening in naija today ( Biafra thingy n other stuff ) one would say the guys are educated buut something is wrong somewhere
You are been sarcastic, secessionist agenda is nothing new and has always been common with all large countries even the U.S had that problem.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:25am On Jun 23, 2017
QueenOfNepal:
angry That's the problem of Nigeria. The country is polarised along Muslim North and Christian South. The North see government as a career so they make sure they use gerrymandering to create more voting blocks for themselves thereby staying in power in perpetuity

But how did it happen that the north ( being more poor an less educated) come to control the politics of Nigeria. Am not saying that they are that poor but comparing with the southern part ya can see the difference
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Lionessza(f): 10:28am On Jun 23, 2017
mtis:


I like the joke where Puerto Ricans confuse him as their own grin









Lol I like that one too. One of my favorites is the one about his mom dropping him like a bag of weed when the apartheid police saw them together grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:30am On Jun 23, 2017
Lionessza:










Lol I like that one too. One of my favorites is the one about his mom dropping him like a bag of weed when the apartheid police saw them together grin

An that grin grin an also where his grandfather used to call him master
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 10:30am On Jun 23, 2017
Hati13:

3 million deaths in Nigeria civil war
Oh I never knew. You guys had a serious suffering times. Really sorry for that.

Is the number of your ethnic people small compared to others because of the atrocities committed against your people?

Not including History subject in Nigeria curriculum is understandable at a certain extent, but every country has a bitter history and history will teach others to not make mistake what their ancestors had done. Nigeria has great culture and history like the Benin kingdom and others, so the youths must know his.

By the looks of your concern for Nigeria, I'm sure you are no Biafran.

Yeah we did. Nigeria was divided by the Biafrans (Igbos n other minority groups) who declared seccession. The war lasted for 3 years until Biafra was defeated and re-merged back to Nigeria.
My people were direct neighbours to the Igbos (Biafra), so we suffered casualties, molestation and rape from Biafran soldiers. But the Biafrans suffered more because most countries of the world supported Nigeria.

~~~~~The attrocities i was talking about earlier were pre-colonial wars between Nigerian Kingdoms & empires. So there was really nothing like minority or majority then. Every kingdom for itself. The kingdom i descended from also conquered and enslaved other people/kingdoms, and likewise themselves were also enslaved, attacked n later islamized. It was a pre-colonial thing.

Yes, in today's Nigerian settings, my people are classified as minorities. If you are not Igbo, Hausa or Yoruba in Nigeria, you are a minority.
Buh being a minority in Nigeria is not so bad anymore since we now have dozens of state governments and most minority groups rule their own states. Minority groups only suffered oppression during the old regional governments.

**** I agree with you about history, buh even though history is not included in our academic curriculum as a subject, some bit of it is taught in other subjects n many Nigerians do educate themselves on their histories. Either ways, there are advantages n disadvantages of teaching history.

If history should be taught, i think it would be selective. They should remove the bitter parts and teach only the beautiful parts cheesy

>>>>>Your last statement is not really correct. Not all Igbos n Southern minorities support Biafra, many of them are patriotic Nigerians.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by freshest4live: 10:31am On Jun 23, 2017
Lionessza:











Then what is the cause of all these civil and tribal wars in Africa?. @ the bolded , you are free to entertain them anytime you want.
What was the cause of the first and second world wars? And all the wars of the educated west in the 20th century? You are not addressing the problem if you blame it squarely on education.
Nigeria has the most educated populace in Africa both home and abroad.
As for the other part, l would not discuss that because the degenerate and the e wars would begin again.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:35am On Jun 23, 2017
mtis:


But how did it happen that the north ( being more poor an less educated) come to control the politics of Nigeria. Am not saying that they are that poor but comparing with the southern part ya can see the difference
The British gave power to the North when they were leaving because the North were illiterate and won't pose much problem with their
nneocolonialism unlike the South that are more educated and exposed.



The North also have large population and landmass bordering Niger and Chad with no secured borders whereby you can't diffrentiate a Chadian from a Northerner which helps during Election.



The South is not United because the two major ethnic group there Igbos and Yorubas are busy battling for supremacy while the North holds tight to itself using Islam as a factor for homogeneity.


Lastly the Civil war made the north to control the armed forces that 80% of Nigeria defence apparatus are in the North with them having about 70% of the personnel

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Isahalbash(m): 10:36am On Jun 23, 2017
mtis:


I wouldn't comment much on Jonathan development thingy coz am not from naija but have to agree to a certain degree with what you said..had a friend from North (Fulani or Hausa can't remember) before election an I can tell many guys from north did not like Jonathan ..it wasn't because of development stuff but more to do with tribal or even religious affiliation.

The guy told me Jonathan will loss an when that happens the guy will travel back to naija.an that what happened..









Lolz! I tink you do dsame for those who hate d current govt ND see where most of Dem come from too. The tribal war didn't start today, it has been there since d 60s.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Lionessza(f): 10:43am On Jun 23, 2017
freshest4live:

What was the cause of the first and second world wars? And all the wars of the educated west in the 20th century? You are not addressing the problem if you blame it squarely on education.
Nigeria has the most educated populace in Africa both home and abroad.
As for the other part, l would not discuss that because the degenerate and the e wars would begin again.












I have no proof that the majority of people who fought those wars were educated , do you? . I wouldn't even be suprised if the people who start these wars are the manipulative educated ones using the uneducated hate filled masses to do the dirty work while they benefit from the destruction.


I'm not blaming it squarely on education , clearly there must be other issues at play but I'm saying education does have a role to play also. About Nigerians being the most educated people in the continent? I'm yet to see any proof of this, unless you are doing a head count which of course Nigerians would lead because you have a huge population.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Lionessza(f): 10:45am On Jun 23, 2017
mtis:


An that grin grin an also where his grandfather used to call him master








Lol I've never heard that one.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:48am On Jun 23, 2017
QueenOfNepal:
The British gave power to the North when they were leaving because the North were illiterate and won't pose much problem with their
nneocolonialism unlike the South that are more educated and exposed.



The North also have large population and landmass bordering Niger and Chad with no secured borders whereby you can't diffrentiate a Chadian from a Northerner which helps during Election.



The South is not United because the two major ethnic group there Igbos and Yorubas are busy battling for supremacy while the North holds tight to itself using Islam as a factor for homogeneity.


Lastly the Civil war made the north to control the armed forces that 80% of Nigeria defence apparatus are in the North with them having about 70% of the personnel

The last part is not comforting at all.that is something to worry...
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 10:49am On Jun 23, 2017
ednited:



WOW, is there a name for the attire?

That of Ghana i think is called Kente, buh am not sure of the rest, i'll try to find out.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:51am On Jun 23, 2017
angry We are at their mercy. Nigeria is living on borrowed line except the elders come together and chart a way forward. The division is getting wider daily[quote author=mtis post=57777171][/quote]

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by freshest4live: 10:52am On Jun 23, 2017
Lionessza:













I have no proof that the majority of people who fought those wars were educated , do you? . I wouldn't even be suprised if the people who start these wars are the manipulative educated ones using the uneducated hate filled masses to do the dirty work while they benefit from the destruction.


I'm not blaming it squarely on education , clearly there must be other issues at play but I'm saying education does have a role to play also. About Nigerians being the most educated people in the continent? I'm yet to see any proof of this, unless you are doing a head count which of course Nigerians would lead because you have a huge population.
Education has little to do with wars or lack of wars, power is the main factor.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 10:57am On Jun 23, 2017
QueenOfNepal:
The British gave power to the North when they were leaving because the North were illiterate and won't pose much problem with their
nneocolonialism unlike the South that are more educated and exposed.



The North also have large population and landmass bordering Niger and Chad with no secured borders whereby you can't diffrentiate a Chadian from a Northerner which helps during Election.



The South is not United because the two major ethnic group there Igbos and Yorubas are busy battling for supremacy while the North holds tight to itself using Islam as a factor for homogeneity.


Lastly the Civil war made the north to control the armed forces that 80% of Nigeria defence apparatus are in the North with them having about 70% of the personnel

I think you are misleading mtis in some areas.

**** First of all, i don't think the British gave power to the north because they were illiterate, no, rather, it was because they were the most socially organized, exposed and enlightened.

When the British came to Nigeria, Danfodio n his hausa-fulani jihadists had the largest territory and empire (Sultanate) in Nigeria.
Hausa-fulanis were already reading n writing in Arabic, they were already travelling to the middle-east for Hajj, trading with Arabs, Berbers and others different peoples of the world. All other Nigerian groups lacked this.

This was why the British empowered them over others. They were better administrators.

Yoruba kingdoms were busy fighting themselves. Parts of Benin kingdom (Auchi area) & Kwararafa kingdom were already being ravaged n islamized by these jihadists.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:57am On Jun 23, 2017
Isahalbash:










Lolz! I tink you do dsame for those who hate d current govt ND see where most of Dem come from too. The tribal war didn't start today, it has been there since d 60s.

No noo I don't support any side in ya disagreement.. Personally I don't give a butt about all this politic thingy in Africa..I just want a leader who can pull Africans out of their miserable situation they are in even if that leader is an oyibho (white dude)..I learned that politics has no friends or enemies an the guys who benefits are the one on top of the chain an that they don't care about their people just their stomachs an that religion an tribe is just another toll to control the zombies
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Lionessza(f): 10:58am On Jun 23, 2017
freshest4live:

Education has little to do with wars or lack of wars, power is the main factor.









We can agree to disagree then.

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