Image123:


You failed yet again to answer simple straight forward questions. When you struggle to answer simple conversation, it shows the depth of your thinking and why you gullibly arrived at the point of misthinking that there's no God. God sent Moses to Pharaoh in Egypt to ermmmm Let my people go. Does that sound familiar in any way?

hehehehe... what made you assume I don't know that story? next time say "according to the Bible" alright?
as far as opinions go? we don't all agree. A Inca sheman would ask you who the f is Moses. oh Mr sheman why don't you consult God after all you can access God can't you?
"oh yeah I can"
so he gets high on some hemp and does a voodoo dance. goes into trance and shouts mosesssssss! I see him. the man who flew on a dragon and saved the Israelites... ehh??



it's just a mythology.

God is universal or so it is supposed to be but asking different mediums to verify what God had with Moses would only yeild concussion so it is not a fact for me. it is a myth

bennyann:
HardMirror don come again ooo. Na wa for all of una

No matter what you say, whether our hardwork does it for us or our laziness and idleness, whatever comes we will give thanks to God.

You can't stop us from doing that now...

That's why we are theists and you are an atheist.

Infact that's why we are Christians, that's our lifestyle.

So dear, stop teaching us how to live our lives cos you're not the one we worship, Gerrit?

When you're done with life, go thank yourself for helping yourself but leave us to give glory to whom we believe is worthy of it..

I tire for una

are you trying to silence the voice of reason?
may seem a waste to you, but a call to reason for others.

and it is worthy of note that none can deny that man has always solved mans problems not God. if fact we even help solve God's problems cost we are the ones always defending God. wonder what God can do for himself.

E be like say this image123 guy get Hardmirror for mind o

HardMirror:

are you trying to silence the voice of reason?
may seem a waste to you, but a call to reason for others.

and it is worthy of note that none can deny that man has always solved mans problems not God. if fact we even help solve God's problems cost we are the ones always defending God. wonder what God can do for himself.

Oh, I've forgotten. You have to win souls for today. It's really been long you did that.

You can only take what belongs to you but not God's.

As for they that love God, in sickness, in tears, in joy, in riches, in anything, whatever may be, we acknowledge God in everything and we give thanks to Him through it all.

HardMirror enjoy yourself ok

bennyann:


Oh, I've forgotten. You have to win souls for today. It's really been long you did that.

You can only take what belongs to you but not God's.

As for they that love God, in sickness, in tears, in joy, in riches, in anything, whatever may be, we acknowledge God in everything and we give thanks to Him through it all.

HardMirror enjoy yourself ok

for a moment let's assume we are both Christian missionaries.
we travel around the world trying to win souls for Christ.
everywhere we go we get the same reply, the very reply you just typed above. people insisting not to reason with us. people insisting that they would serve their idols no matter what. people insisting that their idols are good to them.

imagine we are doctors and we try to save lives as best as we can by knowledge we have come to have, but people insist that our knowledge is no good, they insist that the old ways wld save them. they insist a child with sickle cell anemia is an ogbanje. we would we be?

that is how dum dum many of you are. you think you are protecting an heritage and even tho you see the truth, the fact that you feel you are protecting your heritage keeps u in darkness and close minded to reason. funny the heritage aint yours to even start with.

Hard mirror has, in his two threads today, exposed the disgusting and annoying hypocrisy of christians. A friend is sick, he went to doctors and got his medication. On Sunday, he thanks god for healing him.

HardMirror:

for a moment let's assume we are both Christian missionaries.
we travel around the world trying to win souls for Christ.
everywhere we go we get the same reply, the very reply you just typed above. people insisting not to reason with us. people insisting that they would serve their idols no matter what. people insisting that their idols are good to them.

imagine we are doctors and we try to save lives as best as we can by knowledge we have come to have, but people insist that our knowledge is no good, they insist that the old ways wld save them. they insist a child with sickle cell anemia is an ogbanje. we would we be?

that is how dum dum many of you are. you think you are protecting an heritage and even tho you see the truth, the fact that you feel you are protecting your heritage keeps u in darkness and close minded to reason. funny the heritage aint yours to even start with.

Why are you sounding as if God or let me say Christians are against education? Please face fact

The difference between me and you is I acknowledge a God, i have God and you don't. So what's your problem?

And you also sound as if you're the only ones that have "reasons" .. We are reasonable too, our reasons are just contrast of each other.

Tell me how reasonable you are sounding now, if the very words you use against me I can also throw them at you and they will make sense too.

Always shouting reasons as if you're the creator of reasons. Na wa ooo

I like the post below:

DoctorAlien:


A person who performs an action without a reason is not necessarily unreasonable. Just like doing something with a reason doesn't necessarily make a person reasonable.

Up till now I do not know the standard you guys use to measure your reasonability or reasonableness that makes you think you're reasonable than other humans on earth.

Again, another difference between us is the choice factor.. Don't call me unreasonable because I'm not on your side.

I repeat again, in the good and the bad times, I will give glory to God.

Sometimes I wonder who is crazier, me living humanly with what you guys call imaginations or you being unstable, restless and disturbed due to my imaginations you can't even see or you have no idea of. How can my imagination affect you so badly to the extent you always come online to tell me how unreasonable I am?

And don't tell me Christians are causing problems in the society because we have an outstanding number of them who have brought intense positiveness in the society also, in any sector you decide to mention.

If you can't reason with us, why calling us dummy for not falling for your reasons?

We reason like you, at the same time we stay above reason. We have the grace to both, you only have one, stick to it.

Image123:


It's unfortunate you had to run to the emotional angle instead of the rational or reasonable. You can easily prove if there's is poop in my head or yours same way a doctor determines if you had fever or diabetes. There are scans, machines and signs that can be used to determine and ascertain this. There are studies and trends on the human body, the digestive tract, circulatory system etc. Indeed, it is one thing to go to school, it is another for school to pass through you or find it applicable in real life scenarios. No need sending a scanned copy of your C6 result in basic science/biology. It misses the point.

And since man existed your god cannot be proven like poop on your head

Evidently, poop exists and your god doesn't

bennyann:


Why are you sounding as if God or let me say Christians are against education? Please face fact

The difference between me and you is I acknowledge a God, i have God and you don't. So what's your problem?

And you also sound as if you're the only ones that have "reasons" .. We are reasonable too, our reasons are just contrast of each other.

Tell me how reasonable you are sounding now, if the very words you use against me I can also throw them at you and they will make sense too.

Always shouting reasons as if you're the creator of reasons. Na wa ooo

I like the post below:



Up till now I do not know the standard you guys use to measure your reasonability or reasonableness that makes you think you're reasonable than other humans on earth.

Again, another difference between us is the choice factor.. Don't call me unreasonable because I'm not on your side.

I repeat again, in the good and the bad times, I will give glory to God.

Sometimes I wonder who is crazier, me living humanly with what you guys call imaginations or you being unstable, restless and disturbed due to my imaginations you can't even see or you have no idea of. How can my imagination affect you so badly to the extent you always come online to tell me how unreasonable I am?

And don't tell me Christians are causing problems in the society because we have an outstanding number of them who have brought intense positiveness in the society also, in any sector you decide to mention.

If you can't reason with us, why calling us dummy for not falling for your reasons?

We reason like you, at the same time we stay above reason. We have the grace to both, you only have one, stick to it.

address my post above. you said u don't care about facts or circumstances no matter what you will serve God. does that not sound foo.lish? why serve a God that can't pass simple scrutiny

HardMirror:

address my post above. you said u don't care about facts or circumstances no matter what you will serve God. does that not sound foo.lish? why serve a God that can't pass simple scrutiny

That's the lifestyle of a Christian my dear. If I don't do it which is a natural thing for me, then there wouldn't be any difference between you and I.

Even right now, i know what I'm going through but by His grace I won't trade Him for anything.

You don't expect everyone to give up on God like you did. Some of us have to stay to experience what you never stayed to experience. I will finish this race in Christ Jesus by His special grace and by then He will give me more grace to win souls for Him because I would have gotten more experience in Him.

Not all of us will give up on God dear. I won't be surprised if it's those who are perceived to be weak in the Christian race, that will eventually win it.

So I'm trading God for nothing. And that's because I'm satisfied with the God I'm serving.

And again, who are you to say my position is foolish? You are a case ooo. After you've become the judge, you will keep on asking the same questions so as to keep giving the same judgment... Does that make sense to you too?

hahn:


And since man existed your god cannot be proven like poop on your head

Evidently, poop exists and your god doesn't

It cannot be proven that there is no God, duh. It actually makes more sense that there must be a God. Run along.

bennyann:


That's the lifestyle of a Christian my dear. If I don't do it which is a natural thing for me, then there wouldn't be any difference between you and I.

Even right now, i know what I'm going through but by His grace I won't trade Him for anything.

You don't expect everyone to give up on God like you did. Some of us have to stay to experience what you never stayed to experience. I will finish this race in Christ Jesus by His special grace and by then He will give me more grace to win souls for Him because I would have gotten more experience in Him.

Not all of us will give up on God dear. I won't be surprised if it's those who are perceived to be weak in the Christian race, that will eventually win it.

So I'm trading God for nothing. And that's because I'm satisfied with the God I'm serving.

And again, who are you to say my position is foolish? You are a case ooo. After you've become the judge, you will keep on asking the same questions so as to keep giving the same judgment... Does that make sense to you too?

what is more foolish than saying "I don't care what facts are against my belief, I wld adamantly stick to my believes no matter how unfounded they are.? now that is foo.lushness defined

Image123:


It cannot be proven that there is no God, duh. It actually makes more sense that there must be a God. Run along.

So, because you cannot disprove the existence of the toothfairy means there must be a toothfairy?

Is this the nonsense you are trying to defend?

bennyann:


That's the lifestyle of a Christian my dear. If I don't do it which is a natural thing for me, then there wouldn't be any difference between you and I.

Even right now, i know what I'm going through but by His grace I won't trade Him for anything.

You don't expect everyone to give up on God like you did. Some of us have to stay to experience what you never stayed to experience. I will finish this race in Christ Jesus by His special grace and by then He will give me more grace to win souls for Him because I would have gotten more experience in Him.

Not all of us will give up on God dear. I won't be surprised if it's those who are perceived to be weak in the Christian race, that will eventually win it.

So I'm trading God for nothing. And that's because I'm satisfied with the God I'm serving.

And again, who are you to say my position is foolish? You are a case ooo. After you've become the judge, you will keep on asking the same questions so as to keep giving the same judgment... Does that make sense to you too?

Hypocritical nonsense. If you are serving God just because of who he is and not what you get from him, then you could as well serve my butt 'cos after all, you don't gain anything from my ass. What kind of god is a god that does not contribute anything to the life of his followers? A god that does not heal or raise the dead, is that one a god?

The jewish bastards who wrote the bible knew that prayer and miracles from the biblical god is wishful thinking at best so they invented the story of Job to keep you tied down to your religion no matter the circumstances and how long it takes. How else would you know that power of god is true if it is not test and demonstrated? Hard times test religious gods, not you, to see if these gods are real and what they say they are. If your god can't help you and is non-existent during hard times, why call him god?

For you to believe in the book of Job and you still see god as justified despite what happened, then it implies that you are evil. This is because you believe is right that children should be killed and can be replaced like properties to test their parents faith. The jews knew that anything could happen to anyone, god or no God, so the book of Job was created to cater for that. Anybody who is upset with being scrutinised is a charlatan. My friend, wake up

HardMirror:

address my post above. you said u don't care about facts or circumstances no matter what you will serve God. does that not sound foo.lish? why serve a God that can't pass simple scrutiny

HardMirror:

what is more foolish than saying "I don't care what facts are against my belief, I wld adamantly stick to my believes no matter how unfounded they are.? now that is foo.lushness defined

What scrutiny has GOD not passed? Bring up any proven scientific fact that is at variance with the teachings of the Bible.

I put it to you that the simple argument below demolishes whatever argument you have against Christianity:

1. The Bible is always true.

2. The Bible says that GOD exists.

3. Therefore GOD exists.

Martinez19:
If you are serving God just because of who he is and not what you get from him

Then you're on the right path, because GOD deserves worship as the Creator(Rev. 4:11)

What kind of god is a god that does not contribute anything to the life of his followers? A god that does not heal or raise the dead, is that one a god?

I am a living testimony to what GOD can do in a man's life. Anyway, what if I die? I'll live forever in a perfect world.

The jewish - who wrote the bible knew that prayer and miracles from the biblical god is wishful thinking at best so they invented the story of Job to keep you tied down to your religion no matter the circumstances and how long it takes.

No. While the book of Job doubtless leaves many questions unanswered, it makes it clear that GOD' righteous judgment will settle everything.(Job 19:25-27). Though we be impoverished in this wicked world, we will walk on streets made of gold in that beautiful City.

Martinez19:
Hypocritical nonsense. If you are serving God just because of who he is and not what you get from him, then you could as well serve my butt 'cos after all, you don't gain anything from my ass. What kind of god is a god that does not contribute anything to the life of his followers? A god that does not heal or raise the dead, is that one a god?

The jewish bastards who wrote the bible knew that prayer and miracles from the biblical god is wishful thinking at best so they invented the story of Job to keep you tied down to your religion no matter the circumstances and how long it takes. How else would you know that power of god is true if it is not test and demonstrated? Hard times test religious gods, not you, to see if these gods are real and what they say they are. If your god can't help you and is non-existent during hard times, why call him god?

For you to believe in the book of Job and you still see god as justified despite what happened, then it implies that you are evil. This is because you believe is right that children should be killed and can be replaced like properties to test their parents faith. The jews knew that anything could happen to anyone, god or no God, so the book of Job was created to cater for that. Anybody who is upset with being scrutinised is a charlatan. My friend, wake up

And who are you again? an atheist or a hater of God?

Why speak with so much bitterness in you? Even the 'evil' me has no such violent bitterness in my write up

Well, I expect the others to follow suit

I also wonder where you get all those lies you attribute to God from and you seem not to know your place as a creature, then how would you know the place of a creator

What God does for me and what He will do leave it to Him and to those that are interested. But I'm sure you'll be reminded of all you've said here someday in one way or the other. If we all can't make a difference here, I'm sure at least one person would.

So please leave the Christians with their obsessions because they're no stumbling block to your dreams and desires.

And don't worry, to me your write up is no hypocritical nonsense cos I understand you but calm down, bring yourself together. If Job didn't get angry, who are you to get angry on his behalf? Are his children yours? So please calm down.

DoctorAlien:
Then you're on the right path, because GOD deserves worship as the Creator(Rev. 4:11) I am a living testimony to what GOD can do in a man's life. Anyway, what if I die? I'll live forever in a perfect world.

No. While the book of Job doubtless leaves many questions unanswered, it makes it clear that GOD' righteous judgment will settle everything.(Job 19:25-27). Though we be impoverished in this wicked world, we will walk on streets made of gold in that beautiful City.

whao, so you agree that the book of Job leaves many things unanswered. What foolishness, the book of Job need no extra interpretation, metaphor or allegory to know that the God of the bible has no morality and is petty, insecure, psychopathic and sadistic. May what happened to Job not happen to you.

It amazes me anytime I see the atheists and haters of God always wanting to teach God how to be holy, how to act like a creator that He is, how to be God, how to carry Himself, how to act, how to be good?

It's so amazing

What a world, what a people!

Do your part, you won't do. You will leave your roles and concentrate on another's. How then will the world not be in uproar.

bennyann:


And who are you again? an atheist or a hater of God?

Why speak with so much bitterness in you? Even the 'evil' me has no such violent bitterness in my write up

Well, I expect the others to follow suit

I also wonder where you get all those lies you attribute to God from and you seem not to know your place as a creature, then how would you know the place of a creator

What God does for me and what He will do leave it to Him and to those that are interested. But I'm sure you'll be reminded of all you've said here someday in one way or the other. If we all can't make a difference here, I'm sure at least one person would.

So please leave the Christians with their obsessions because they're no stumbling block to your dreams and desires.

And don't worry, to me your write up is no hypocritical nonsense cos I understand you but calm down, bring yourself together. If Job didn't get angry, who are you to get angry on his behalf? Are his children yours? So please calm down.

who told you Job didn't get angry? Even if he didn't, does it justify the wickedness of the christian god? If Job never complained, does that justify the killing of children? Job never existed and his response as given in the bible is what the jewish bastards expect of you.

bennyann:


And who are you again? an atheist or a hater of God?

Why speak with so much bitterness in you? Even the 'evil' me has no such violent bitterness in my write up

Well, I expect the others to follow suit

I also wonder where you get all those lies you attribute to God from and you seem not to know your place as a creature, then how would you know the place of a creator

What God does for me and what He will do leave it to Him and to those that are interested. But I'm sure you'll be reminded of all you've said here someday in one way or the other. If we all can't make a difference here, I'm sure at least one person would.

So please leave the Christians with their obsessions because they're no stumbling block to your dreams and desires.

And don't worry, to me your write up is no hypocritical nonsense cos I understand you but calm down, bring yourself together. If Job didn't get angry, who are you to get angry on his behalf? Are his children yours? So please calm down.

each time I criticise the christian god on nairaland, people think I am suffering and I am discouraged with my faith. This nonsense has got to stop . The gods of religion don't exist. Mtewwwwwww.

Martinez19:
who told you Job didn't get angry? Even if he didn't, does it justify the wickedness of the christian god? If Job never complained, does that justify the killing of children? Job never existed and his response as given in the bible is what the jewish bastards expect of you.

At least you know what's expected of the Christians but you don't know what is expected of you. You only know what you desire to do, to be and to carry out. So soothe yourself and leave those that know what's expected of them to carry out the expected expectations

Stay your lane ok

Martinez19:
each time I criticise the christian god on nairaland, people think I am suffering and I am discouraged with my faith. This nonsense has got to stop . The gods of religion don't exist. Mtewwwwwww.

Oh boy! Soothe yourself dear.

It seems you guys can't do without the word "nonsense". No need talking too much ok

DoctorAlien:


What scrutiny has GOD not passed? Bring up any proven scientific fact that is at variance with the teachings of the Bible.

I put it to you that the simple argument below demolishes whatever argument you have against Christianity:

1. The Bible is always true.

2. The Bible says that GOD exists.

3. Therefore GOD exists.

interesting.
you say the Bible is always true. from Genesis the Bible is based on myths than facts. night and day before creation of the sun? light before creation of the astral bodies? or shld we even talk about the serpent? the so called serpent that tempted Eve and then God cursed all the serpents to start crawling on their bellies? if you don't see the falsehood in that already then you are lacking in common sense. and we have barely covered 3 chapters of the Bible.

Martinez19:
whao, so you agree that the book of Job leaves many things unanswered. What foolishness, the book of Job need no extra interpretation, metaphor or allegory to know that the God of the bible has no morality and is petty, insecure, psychopathic and sadistic. May what happened to Job not happen to you.

Yes, true Christians are very honest to admit that there are many lessons which GOD would still teach us from the life of Job in Heaven.

Job's was a beautiful ending. The Bible records it that "the LORD blessed the latter end of Job more than his beginning".(Job 42:12).

DoctorAlien:

Job's was a beautiful ending. The Bible records it that "the LORD blessed the latter end of Job more than his beginning".(Job 42:12).

OK, well that's great and all, but things didn't work out too well for all of Job's original sons and daughters who got killed! Also, this always bugged me too: wouldn't Job still be sad about the loss of his first children? Losing children is not exactly like losing a car. You can't just get a new one and everything's good. I mean, if I had a son or daughter who got killed, and then God said, "Hey, it's okay, here's a new one - all fixed!" it wouldn't make my loss of the first one any less, no matter how much I loved the new one.

DoctorAlien:


Yes, true Christians are very honest to admit that there are many lessons which GOD would still teach us from the life of Job in Heaven.

Job's was a beautiful ending. The Bible records it that "the LORD blessed the latter end of Job more than his beginning".(Job 42:12).

Of course, the Jewish bastards having achieved their aim of tying you down to your religion, using the book of Job, paint an happy to make you think that everything will turn out well no matter what. People who can't see through this are not as smart. If you have cancer and you pray to the christian god for a miracle cure, nothing will happen because religion is a facade and if you like wait for a thousand years, nothing will happen. The top GOs of churches in this country know that prayer is useless. They are business men masquerading as clergymen.

HardMirror:

interesting.
you say the Bible is always true. from Genesis the Bible is based on myths than facts. night and day before creation of the sun? light before creation of the astral bodies? or shld we even talk about the serpent? the so called serpent that tempted Eve and then God cursed all the serpents to start crawling on their bellies? if you don't see the falsehood in that already then you are lacking in common sense. and we have barely covered 3 chapters of the Bible.

You should know that when the Bible records "the evening and the morning", it is simply referring to the 24-hour period which makes a day. Afterall there was no man on earth to experience evening and morning up until the sixth day of Creation. GOD Himself revealed to man that He created everything within 6 days. He revealed that, for example, He created light with a 24-hour period.

hopefulLandlord:


OK, well that's great and all, but things didn't work out too well for all of Job's original sons and daughters who got killed! Also, this always bugged me too: wouldn't Job still be sad about the loss of his first children? Losing children is not exactly like losing a car. You can't just get a new one and everything's good. I mean, if I had a son or daughter who got killed, and then God said, "Hey, it's okay, here's a new one - all fixed!" it wouldn't make my loss of the first one any less, no matter how much I loved the new one.

How about the fact that the children of Job who were killed by Satan will get righteous judgment, while Satan must surely be punished for all the evil he has done?

DoctorAlien:


How about the fact that the children of Job who were killed by Satan will get righteous judgment, while Satan must surely be punished for all the evil he has done?

what you're saying would happen to your imaginary enemy called Satan would happen regardless of what happened to Job's sons and daughters, its not gonna be greater or lesser cuz of Job's sons and daughters, therefore the point still stands

wouldn't Job still be sad about the loss of his first children? Losing children is not exactly like losing a car. You can't just get a new one and everything's good. I mean, if I had a son or daughter who got killed, and then god said, "Hey, it's okay, here's a new one - all fixed!" it wouldn't make my loss of the first one any less, no matter how much I loved the new one

DoctorAlien:


How about the fact that the children of Job who were killed by Satan will get righteous judgment, while Satan must surely be punished for all the evil he has done?

Bullshit. Rightous judgement from who? The same god that permitted satan to kill them because of the testing of their father's faith?

hopefulLandlord:


what you're saying would happen to your imaginary enemy called Satan would happen regardless of what happened to Job's sons and daughters, its not gonna be greater or lesser cuz of Job's sons and daughters, therefore the point still stands

wouldn't Job still be sad about the loss of his first children? Losing children is not exactly like losing a car. You can't just get a new one and everything's good. I mean, if I had a son or daughter who got killed, and then god said, "Hey, it's okay, here's a new one - all fixed!" it wouldn't make my loss of the first one any less, no matter how much I loved the new one

If Satan is imaginary, isn't the death of the children of Job imaginary too? Are they not recorded in the same Bible?

I'm not surprised. "Freethinkers" always present weak, puerile, disjointed arguments.