Isahalbash:






The most sincere people on this thread...wenedem

Huge Thanks for wenedem Isahalbash

9jakool:

I'm just wondering, I've noticed that the rate of adherents of Ethiopia Tawedo Orthodoxy has declined with an upsurge in Pentay adherents looking at the census data.

I've noticed a lot of the upsurge in Pentay and noticeable decline in Orthodoxy can be attributed to the Oromia region. Do you think this has to do with some resentment among the Oromo community due the association of the Orthodox church with Habesha if the church is actually associated with Habesha in Ethiopia since I don't really know the situation. I just want your view on this matter and I'll appreciate your feedback.

Oromos didn't had a very strong bonds with Ethiopia Orthodox, since it was only in the 17th century they were introduced to Christianity. So when Protestant Christianity introduced to Ethiopia by European missionaries in the 19th and 20th centuries, some of the Oromos, other non Habesha and few Habesha Ethiopians converted to Protestant.

I don't know that much on religion, but Inknown that Protestantism is a reform version of Orthodox and Catholic Christianity. So this reason and the association of Ethiopian Orthodox with Habesha like you mentioned could be the reason in the decline of Orthodox Oromos and other non Habeshas Ethiopians.

Most of Ethiopian Protestant are Oromos and other southern Ethiopians. There are only few Habesha Protestant.

mtis:


You need to look at the peeps who are use this products..it the Chinese for pete's sake..want to know their number..its in billion...dropping price will no reduce demand coz the demand for this products outstrips supply..for Gods sake it economics 101

Yes ret@rd I know.......legalising and flooding the market reduces the price, thus making it less attractive for poachers, simple law of demand vs supply.

When it was illegal there was obviously less supply thus higher price, now all the Rhino horn which not only include those confiscated but also those of Rhino which were dehorned to protect them are on the market.

Thus all Rhino can now be humianly dehorned and their horns sold, thus supply will now always be much higher than it was and price will always lower than it was, making it less attractive for poachers.

Simple Econ101!!

Hati13:

Thanks dear


Other Cushitic languages.


Amhargn is relatively similar with Agew languages compared to other Habesha languages, since most of it's Cushitic characteristics is from Agew. Amhargn grammar structure is completely Cushitic-Omotic, but it's still a Semitic language. By the way, Amhargn is the least Semitic language in the world to show Semitic behaviors. Amhargn is also more similar with Argobbagn(Semitic language) than any other languages.

Tigragn is also affected by Agew languages, but not like other Cushitic languages like Beja, Shano and Afar.

Other Semitic Habesha languages like Guragegn and Harargn has also been affected by Agew languages at a certain extent.

Geez language(Semitic) is one of the many mother languages of Amhargn, Tigragn, Guragegn and Harargn. It has also been affected by Agew languages.


No, it isn't. Even the place in the video is a city/town. It's weird, but it's. There are also other cities/towns in other Agew areas of Agew Awi and Quara.

I would guess 15-20% urban and 80-85% rural in all Agew areas.


Yes, there is. For example, our national food "Injera" was first invented by the Agews and later it was shared to Abyssinians and other Ethiopians. The Ashenda festival I mentioned it to you previously was also invented by Agews and shared to the Tigrays. I'm sure there are also others they shared to Habeshas, because large percentage of Habeshas DNA is Agew.


No, it was built in the early years of the 13th century AD.

The Portuguese had seen it in the 16th century, but when more Europeans started to see it in the 19th and 20th century, those racist Europeans said, how can this unique architectural Churches be built by black Africans? No, either it must be built by Egypt-Syrians or Ethiopians aren't black Africans, but a black Hamitic-Semitic mixs Caucasian.
You see how they degrade Africans. They forgot they were savages living in caves when much of Africans were in great civilizations.

Holly this is great.

**** Your last paragraph got me rolling on the floor.
''egypt-syrians, black hamitic-semitic mix caucasians' Lol
I never knew you were such a funny person.

Well, these Europeans can try to deny the empires of Horn africa by watering down the africaness or blackness of Horn africans just as they did the ancient egyptians buh they hell cannot play with that of West Africa.

>>>>The richest man that ever lived in the world MUSA MANSA of the mali empire was a very black west african and the University of Timbuktu built in the 12th century, one of the first in the world was also built in West africa by west africans. Lol

genieluv:


Oooh, n i tot he was amhara. He seems to have such a command over the language!

Yes, he have. He was born and raised in Addis. I'm confident he more about Amhargn than most Amharas do. He also knows his own language Guragegn and other Ethiopian languages.

genieluv:
Which region belongs to the gurages n how many r they?

Gurages don't have their own region, but have their own Zone. There zone is located in Southern Nations, Nationalities and People Region. I think it's about 200-250km South of Addis Ababa.

There population is about 5% of Ethiopians(about 5,000,000).

genieluv:
*** is his wife also a gurage lady?

Her father was Oromo and mother Eritrean. She was born in Gondar, Amhara region(Ethiopia).

I don't know if she identify herself as Ethiopian or Eritrean.

Jay254:


In health?? Kenyans have along life expectancy than Nigerians almost 10 years difference.

In health care facilities I believe Nigeria is a joke.

Dearest wenedem,

So you think Nigeria uses herbs, and roots for surgeries, go do your research bro,

As for expectancy the world is even expecting Nigeria to be 3rd most populous nation on earth by 2050,"overtaking us,

Unless Nigeria disintegrates


http://www.google.com.ng/url?q=http://dailypost.ng/2017/06/22/nigeria-overtake-us-worlds-third-populous-country-un/&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwitk_fK6NjUAhWDAxoKHbVJDLcQFggRMAI&usg=AFQjCNHYBUau3HwL0z1MzjSKdYINollmew

9jakool:

Kenya has culture just like Nigeria, so I am not here to argue that. I have heard if the Samburu before especially a few years back for the creation of all female village called Umoja. The truth is, there are a lot ethnic groups in Nigeria and Western Africa alike who predominantly practice their native religions. For example, there is a cultural region in parts of NE Nigeria and Northern Cameroon known as Kirdi with dozens of ethnic groups who adhere to their native ethnic religions. In fact, the word Kirdi means Pagan in Fulani because when the Muslim Toroobe Fulani settled in the region and attempted to convert the locals, they were very resistant to their Jihad.

Also, there are many ethnic groups in Nigeria like Hausa or Igbo who are predominantly Christian or Muslim, However there are also many who are mixed in terms of religion like Yoruba, Igala, Etsako, Gbagyi, etc. Even among the Hausa and Igbos, you can till find notable indigenous element like Maguzawa or Odinani respectively.

Similarly in Kenya, you have ethnic groups that are predominantly Muslim like Somali or Swahili and ethnic groups that are majority Christian like the Kikuyu. You can also find those who are mixed like Oromo and those that are majority traditional adherents like the Samburu.

Wonderful analysis from you as usual.

****Buh just to correct some things in your first paragraph to TayserMahiri about North-east Nigeria, there was never a kirdi zone in Gongola (North-east Nigeria). This only existed n still exists in northern Cameroon, where all the non-fulani northern minority groups r classified as 'kirdi' (the derogatory name) ethnically n heck even nationally. So pathetic!

Yes, fulanis might have called Gongola tribes 'Kirdi' in the past buh that name has probably died many decades ago due to the linguistic hausanization of the region, heavy christianization of the so called 'Kirdi' tribes n the political classifications of Nigeria.

Lemme explain the 3 points further.

**** Hausas call all non-hausa minorities in the north as KABILU (meaning tribes or people of tribes), so, most north-east fulanis who also face hausanization have largely adopted that name to adress their surrounding tribes long ago. Or better still, if they want to go islamically, they adress the tribes (the christian ones, mostly as ARNA or KAFIRI) meaning 'infidels' as we all know, n this name really applies to all non-muslims in the world, so, to be specific, they localize by saying 'Arnan arewa' or 'Arnan Adamawa' or 'Arnan Taraba' (depending on their states).

**** Now in the aspect of christianity n politics, Most formerly Gongola pagan tribes have been heavily christianized since 100 years ago by christian missionaries, so the name Kirdi could really no longer apply unlike in northern cameroon where the kirdis over there still have many pagan n non-christian peoples n are relatively primitive.
Missionary work really fluorished in Gongola axis n today the christian tribes r the majority there, most of them are also now more educated than the fulanis themselves n some large tribes like the Kilbas, Marghis, Bachamas, Higgis n Chambas there even absorbed some fulanis culturally n linguistically.

>>>>So, most north-eastern fulanis had to adjust n take up the islamic arewa identity (which the British definitely helped them to propagate through indirect rule alongside the hausas) in order to keep the christians in check, if not they would have been swept under the carpet completely by these tribes they call 'Kirdi' derogatorily.

So, a lot of things have not really favoured fulani superiority in Gongola axis unlike the way fulani superiority is almost absolute in Northern Cameroon n they can keep on calling the tribes Kirdi, discriminating n dominating them forever.

shervydman:
damn!!............. i'm liking @ednited every day by day.

I think taysermahiri will face a stiff competition here....

I don't mind flying edo airways to Ethiopia as long as fanficgirl will be the pilot.....

as a matter of fact, tayser should just go along with hati13's sister n leave ednited for me....

i'm very sorry to muafrika2, my African queen......sorry to every female on the thread too......

*runs outta thread*.........along with ednited

Wenedem shervydman

I want to be your best man in your wedding day with Ednited.

But first, you have to send your representative to Ednited family to know if they are willing or not for the wedding. It's an Ethiopian culture and I'm confident the answer will be "OF COURSE YES".

9jakool:

Kenya has culture just like Nigeria, so I am not here to argue that. I have heard if the Samburu before especially a few years back for the creation of all female village called Umoja. The truth is, there are a lot ethnic groups in Nigeria and Western Africa alike who predominantly practice their native religions. For example, there is a cultural region in parts of NE Nigeria and Northern Cameroon known as Kirdi with dozens of ethnic groups who adhere to their native ethnic religions. In fact, the word Kirdi means Pagan in Fulani because when the Muslim Toroobe Fulani settled in the region and attempted to convert the locals, they were very resistant to their Jihad.

Also, there are many ethnic groups in Nigeria like Hausa or Igbo who are predominantly Christian or Muslim, However there are also many who are mixed in terms of religion like Yoruba, Igala, Etsako, Gbagyi, etc. Even among the Hausa and Igbos, you can till find notable indigenous element like Maguzawa or Odinani respectively.

Similarly in Kenya, you have ethnic groups that are predominantly Muslim like Somali or Swahili and ethnic groups that are majority Christian like the Kikuyu. You can also find those who are mixed like Oromo and those that are majority traditional adherents like the Samburu.

Thanks. Are you from the South? You cannot be northerner. The northerners here seem to be fixated on clothes as the only sign of culture, even prompting me to wonder whether they consider themselves more cultural than the Khoisan. Basically if I got you right, every country has a culture, and in most cases the cultures overlap between traditional and modernity. We are not any less cultural than Nigerians, only that admittedly, Kenyans tend to leave behind things they find unnecessary for modern ones. And not all, some tribes are very resistant to modernisation and you gotta give them time. You fascinated me with the Kirdi region, seems there some badass people living there and I appreciate them for resisting nonsense Jihad. Were there instances of forceful conversion in Nigeria especially by Muslims?

genieluv:



Holly this is great.

**** Your last paragraph got me rolling on the floor.
''egypt-syrians, black hamitic-semitic mix caucasians' Lol
I never knew you were such a funny person.

I'm not being funny dear. I'm telling what I read. Why associate us with Hamitic-Semitic mix Caucasian, when we are definitely Cushite Africans.

genieluv:
Well, these Europeans can try to deny the empires of Horn africa by watering down the africaness or blackness of Horn africans just as they did the ancient egyptians buh they hell cannot play with that of West Africa.

True!
Hell no with West Africa and in the near future, hell no with East and North Africa.

genieluv:
>>>>The richest man that ever lived in the world MUSA MANSA of the mali empire was a very black west african and the University of Timbuktu built in the 12th century, one of the first in the world was also built in West africa by west africans. Lol

I knew about him and the empire, but never know he is the richest person that ever lived. Learning new things everyday from you guys and thanks.

Mali Empire and Timbuktu university and other achievements were and are the bright face of Africa and this and other African states achievements should motivate us to be proud African.

Could you tell me some of the achievements of your ancestors kingdoms?

jln115:
Don't think, it's not your strong suite!!

Every expert recommended legalising rhino horn trade and flooding the market thus dropping the price and demand dramatically!! But seem like some nairaland ewarrior knows more about economics than actual economists

Bruh/sis, I am intentionally avoiding arguing with you because you come off as shallow. Seems you think there can be enough rhinos to sustain the demand from Asia (and thus lower the price). So kindly, let SA stay with its expert advise, its good for you.

mtis:

msee this is the kind of stuff happening in the science field where honorable scientists pervert science to benefit themslves an that is not soo sciency

cc Muafrica2

Those were not scientists. The guy clearly said they are economists like himself (and Kikuyu1 ) Scientists would never support trade in ivory or any animal parts.

shervydman:
damn!!............. i'm liking @ednited every day by day.

I think taysermahiri will face a stiff competition here....

I don't mind flying edo airways to Ethiopia as long as fanficgirl will be the pilot.....

as a matter of fact, tayser should just go along with hati13's sister n leave ednited for me....

i'm very sorry to muafrika2, my African queen......sorry to every female on the thread too......

*runs outta thread*.........along with ednited

Damn you. Stay on your lane. Ednited is my treasured one.

PissedYagami:

You know so much about other African countries mate, I salute thee

9jaKool knows awesome stuff

NairobiWalker:


Their own babes look like men in wigs.

genieluv:
arinzeejikonye, you are such a badass just see the way you embarrassed Nairobiwalker, mtis n other kenyans with hard facts above n dumbfounded them for good. Lol

***now i know that most Kenyans r dumb, they can't even google about what they want to brag against to check the situation in Nigeria before bragging.

>>> I bet you, many years from now if Kenya probably start manufacturing cars, you will see some Kenyans coming to try n brag how they r now manufacturing cars n how apart from them n South africa no other country in Africa does. How pathetic.

You went right ahead and did what you castigating kenyans for

PissedYagami:
125metres T/O
Parliament Tower

What is it about government and ugly buildings?

PissedYagami:

Her intelligence is questionable. And btw Bantus are the most successful Black ethnicity. All the way from Central Africa to South Africa. They had iron tools, assimilated most of all other non Bantu tribes that were along the way.
She needs to know more about Kenya.

Back in the stone and Bronze ages, other African ethnicities used to see Bantus with the same awe naija people see Oyinbo today

Jay254:


In health?? Kenyans have along life expectancy than Nigerians almost 10 years difference.

In health care facilities I believe Nigeria is a joke.

If I was Nigerian I would run to kenya once I hit the age of life expectancy

genieluv:


Lol, i have been hearing of TEA N BLANKET PARTIES here, is it a kind of party in Kenya? The name sounds weird n pathetic.

Can we contrast pictures of your Calabar Carnival with our Blankets and Wines and see who wins?

TayserMahiri:


My bro, I am intentionally avoiding arguing with you because you come off as shallow. Seems you think there can be enough rhinos to sustain the demand from Asia (and thus lower the price). So kindly, let SA stay with its expert advise, its good for you.

Their will never be enough Rhinos yes! But that's not the point, it's about lowering the price of Rhino horn by legalising the trade of it and thus making it much much less profitable for poachers.

Its about decreasing poaching!!

NairobiWalker:



Are you for real? FYI countries with the lowest infant mortality have the lowest population growth rate. Anyone who's seen the doors of a decent High School should know that.

How does that make Kenya greater than Nigeria? So having lowest infant mortality made Kenya greater than Nigeria?

mtis:

A terminus somewhere in Africa

jln115:

Yes ret@rd I know.......legalising and flooding the market reduces the price, thus making it less attractive for poachers, simple law of demand vs supply.

When it was illegal there was obviously less supply thus higher price, now all the Rhino horn which not only include those confiscated but also those of Rhino which were dehorned to protect them are on the market.

Thus all Rhino can now be humianly dehorned and their horns sold, thus supply will now always be much higher than it was and price will always lower than it was, making it less attractive for poachers.

Simple Econ101!!

So you think calling people retards is part of proving the point? What kind of flooding are you talking about? You must be very shortsighted. We also dehorn them here to make them less prone to poachers but we dont sell them. Let no one fool you there can be enough rhino horn to flood the market in the longrun. The result in the end will be a catastrophic shortage of the same product and a exceedingly high thirst of the same. Remember flooding the market with rhino horns creates additional niche markets for the same. We should be aiming at minimizing access to rhino horns for these chinese people so that the culture gradually dies, but people with a very low IQ and greed for money cant see that. It seems straightforward but the economists in your country, for obvious reasons, cant see that. Thats like saying illegal hard drugs should be supplied freely to flood the market and hence lower prices to make the hard drugs unattractive to peddlers. Absolute nonsense.

Jay254:


In health?? Kenyans have along life expectancy than Nigerians almost 10 years difference.

In health care facilities I believe Nigeria is a joke.

Why then is Nigeria about to tople us in population by 2050,why is Nigeria still the most populous black nation, if people don't have longevity


http://www.google.com.ng/url?q=http://dailypost.ng/2017/06/22/nigeria-overtake-us-worlds-third-populous-country-un/&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwitk_fK6NjUAhWDAxoKHbVJDLcQFggRMAI&usg=AFQjCNHYBUau3HwL0z1MzjSKdYINollmew

Hati13:

Wenedem shervydman

I want to be your best man in your wedding day with Ednited.

But first, you have to send your representative to Ednited family to know if they are willing or not for the wedding. It's an Ethiopian culture and I'm confident the answer will be "OF COURSE YES".

Wenedem, how can you say this? Shervy will obviously be denied marriage if he jets in with Edo Airways

arinzeejikonye:



How does that make Kenya greater than Nigeria? So having lowest infant mortality made Kenya greater than Nigeria?

You love diverting from the topic of discussion.

jln115:

Their will never be enough Rhinos yes! But that's not the point, it's about lowering the price of Rhino horn by legalising the trade of it and thus making it much much less profitable for poachers.

Its about decreasing poaching!!

This is beginning to sound like quantum mechanics. From your point of view, Rhinos should (legally) serve the purpose of supplying horns to backward minded Asians?

arinzeejikonye:



Why then is Nigeria about to tople us in population by 2050,why is Nigeria still the most populous black nation, if people don't have longevity


http://www.google.com.ng/url?q=http://dailypost.ng/2017/06/22/nigeria-overtake-us-worlds-third-populous-country-un/&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwitk_fK6NjUAhWDAxoKHbVJDLcQFggRMAI&usg=AFQjCNHYBUau3HwL0z1MzjSKdYINollmew

Don get it wrong wenedem, Nigerians die very badly in their infancy. But Nigerians redouble their baby making efforts every time.

NairobiWalker:


Too many words empty points. I told you what happened at the University of Nairobi was a first in SSA outside SA. Stop giving me mere separations that have been happening in Kenya since the 60s.

http://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2017/02/07/successfully-separated-twins-show-remarkable-recovery-enjoy-playful_c1502351

Gee, I have established my argument with clear facts, what you achieved in Kenya is not the extraordinary,

I ain't talking simple siamese separation,
We both talking about complex intricate situation, where the twin share same vital organs ain't it, I gave you proof, it was done here without any bravado,

For long a time, before you achieved it, so why are you going round in circles,
The facts are there for the blind to see

arinzeejikonye:



Why then is Nigeria about to tople us in population by 2050,why is Nigeria still the most populous black nation, if people don't have longevity


http://www.google.com.ng/url?q=http://dailypost.ng/2017/06/22/nigeria-overtake-us-worlds-third-populous-country-un/&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwitk_fK6NjUAhWDAxoKHbVJDLcQFggRMAI&usg=AFQjCNHYBUau3HwL0z1MzjSKdYINollmew

You need classes on demographics. You're so ignorant in that.

TayserMahiri:


Don get it wrong wenedem, Nigerians die very badly in their infancy. But Nigerians redouble their baby making efforts every time.

And you believe this ish,

Wenedem do you know that even in war time during bokoharam crisis, and in idp camps thousands of women delivered their bouncing babies in good condition,
The facts are there,
To hell with such fallacious unsubstantiated obfuscation of blatant falsification, those ngo call report