NairobiWalker:

You need classes on demographics. You're so ignorant in that.

Wenedem, I even need classes on how to poo,
You can believe what you want bro,

TayserMahiri:


This is beginning to sound like quantum mechanics. From your point of view, Rhinos should (legally) serve the purpose of supplying horns to backward minded Asians?

It's about saving our Rhinos before we end up like Kenya where we have nothing left. If that means legalising Rhino horn trade so be it...... obviously legalising is much easier than trying to change the mind of a billion people.

NNS KARADUWA cont

jln115:

It's about saving our Rhinos before we end up like Kenya where we have nothing left. If that means legalising Rhino horn trade so be it...... obviously legalising is much easier than trying to change the mind of a billion people.

First of all, populations of Rhinos is increasing in kenyan sanctuaries. You want very much to bask in the bad old days when little was done to protect them.

TayserMahiri:


So you think calling people retards is part of proving the point? What kind of flooding are you talking about? You must be very shortsighted. We also dehorn them here to make them less prone to poachers but we dont sell them. Let no one fool you there can be enough rhino horn to flood the market in the longrun. The result in the end will be a catastrophic shortage of the same product and a exceedingly high thirst of the same. Remember flooding the market with rhino horns creates additional niche markets for the same. We should be aiming at minimizing access to rhino horns for these chinese people so that the culture gradually dies, but people with a very low IQ and greed for money cant see that. It seems straightforward but the economists in your country, for obvious reasons, cant see that. Thats like saying illegal hard drugs should be supplied freely to flood the market and hence lower prices to make the hard drugs unattractive to peddlers. Absolute nonsense.

We have tons of Rhino horns that's what we flood the market with, and legalising it means Rhino on private and government land can be dehorned and sold thus supply will always be much higher than it was and the price will always be lower than it was.

This about saving our Rhino not changing the minds of a billions of people, obviously the way Kenya is doing it failed dismally, hence you basically have no Rhino left.......I guess that means your economists and conservationists have an even lower iq!!!!!!

arinzeejikonye:



And you believe this ish,

Wenedem do you know that even in war time during bokoharam crisis, and in idp camps thousands of women delivered their bouncing babies in good condition,
The facts are there,
To hell with such fallacious unsubstantiated obfuscation of blatant falsification, those ngo call report

You actually believe that safe child delivery under such crisis would match that of peace time? How about pregnant women caught up in the melee or the starvation caused by the same crisis?

TayserMahiri:


First of all, populations of Rhinos is increasing in kenyan sanctuaries. You want very much to bask in the bad old days when little was done to protect them.

Yet we have 93% of the total Rhino population in Africa......so tell me who's doing better in conserving Rhino??

jln115:

We have tons of Rhino horns that's what we flood the market with, and legalising it means Rhino on private and government land can be dehorned and sold thus supply will always be much higher than it was and the price will always be lower than it was.

This about saving our Rhino not changing the minds of a billions of people, obviously the way Kenya is doing it failed dismally, hence you basically have no Rhino left.......I guess that means your economists and conservationists have an even lower iq!!!!!!

I just told you Rhino numbers are rising in KEnya because there are now concerted efforts to safeguard them.Back in the days, they were not protected and poachers were having field day. What you dont even know is that the poaching era of the 70s, 80s and 90s is responsible for creating so much demand for rhino and elephant tusks today. If the poaching had been stopped early enough the Chinese would not be so crazy about horns! I maintain that economists should be left out of this conservation work. People like Yao Ming are doing an excellent job of changing the mindset of Chinese and other Asians on this issue.

jln115:

Yet we have 93% of the total Rhino population in Africa......so tell me who's doing better in conserving Rhino??

It means you have better equipment to track the rhinos and began serious efforts to safeguard them early enough. You think I dont know you guys were debating as late as this year whether to legalize trade in Rhino horn? If you legalized the trade it must have been in the last few months and no earlier. So lets wait and see where your economists take you

TayserMahiri:


You actually believe that safe child delivery under such crisis would match that of peace time? How about pregnant women caught up in the melee or the starvation caused by the same crisis?

Have the crisis lasted forever, haven't Rwanda recovered from genocide , what of Japan and Germany of the second world War, what about the Jewish holocaust didn't alshabab affect Kenya too,

Gee, you got absolutely no point,
Do you know millions of people undergoing reintegration into the larger society since the past two years,

Do you know that only about 1 local government is within the hold of bokoharam, which hitherto, was engulfing almost the three states and many local governments, within the north east region including territorial boundaries of neighboring nations within West African region and Cameroon,


Guy only Nigerians are in a better position to give you a clear picture of reality here,

TayserMahiri:



I just told you Rhino numbers are rising in KEnya because there are now concerted efforts to safeguard them.Back in the days, they were not protected and poachers were having field day. What you dont even know is that the poaching era of the 70s, 80s and 90s is responsible for creating so much demand for rhino and elephant tusks today. If the poaching had been stopped early enough the Chinese would not be so crazy about horns! I maintain that economists should be left out of this conservation work. People like Yao Ming are doing an excellent job of changing the mindset of Chinese and other Asians on this issue.

Till then we have no other option, legalising the trade is the most effective way of decreasing poaching.

genieluv:


Kk.
Buh if the Danfodio kind of islam was the yoruba kind of islam, why did Danfodio still go ahead to kill all the hausa sarkis claiming that they were mixing paganism with islam? Danfodio radically advocated for the purification of northern islam from every form of paganism.
This was never the case in yoruba land where paganism was allowed to co-exist with islam

**** where then did this islamic extremism come from to hausa land?

Maybe you should study more about Islam to knw more. Qaddariyya is d Usman fodio Islam while d extremism u talking abt is wahhabism. Most of d Muslims bn killed and their mosques burnt in those arab con3s r Sufis.

Usman Dan fodio might hv forcefully conquered ND killed people, but his form of Islam is not radical. His descendants Sardauna bello ND co had western education ND they r still seeking for it. I knw saying all dis because of d Fulani jihad.




Sunni is divided into two(2): Sufism d liberal one ND d Sunni which comprises wahabism, salafiyya, Izala( Nigeria), ahlu sunnah etc.



Take ur time ND read abt Dem with an open mind to get a clearer picture of each one of Dem.

TayserMahiri:


Those were not scientists. The guy clearly said they are economists like himself (and Kikuyu1 ) Scientists would never support trade in ivory or any animal parts.

I see the problem. Like I said you've anthropomorphised animals. You've projected nonextant human characteristics onto lions,buffalo and elephants. That's why you don't see wildlife products like zebra skins,ivory or hippo teeth are just that -animAl products,albeit immensely valuable not human body parts. You're looking at this like I advocate trade in poor people's corneas or livers!!

TayserMahiri:


It means you have better equipment to track the rhinos and began serious efforts to safeguard them early enough. You think I dont know you guys were debating as late as this year whether to legalize trade in Rhino horn? If you legalized the trade it must have been in the last few months and no earlier. So lets wait and see where your economists take you

Rhino poaching has already decreased by 10% since we legalised Rhino horn trade and there have been 0 Rhino poached in the Kruger park compared to 300 at the same time last year!!

kikuyu1:


Dude, remember the phrase,'consumption data?' We've talked about this before and its implications on REAL GDP. With that in mind lets look at Pakistan. Its been found out their GDP is at least 25% larger than stated due to consumption data;we can't escape that phrase!!


https://tribune.com.pk/story/1346902/real-size-pakistans-gross-domestic-product/

Its not complicated;its an easy read even for moderately intelligent mid level school goers.

Now,if for example our oil consumption per capita is 110 barrels,yours 93. We're still not a producer like you guys,as you know.

http://world.bymap.org/OilConsumption.html

Your sugar consumption is 1.6 mn for 180 mn. Ours is 800k for 45 mn. You outnumber us 4 times. Per capita Kenyan sugar consumption yearly is 18 kg while yours is an unbelievable half at only 9kg -HOWW?!


http://sundiatapost.com/2017/01/31/nigeria-consumes-1-6m-tons-of-sugar-annually-enelamah/

I could go on with cement but really,nigga,if you must insist your GDP per capita is truly 5800$ then ours is twice the official figure at 7200$.

Dude, if you want l could show you documentaries that argue that Nigeria and lreland should have higher GDP than what was recorded.
I stopped this arguement the moment you began comparing your 70 Billion dollar GDP to Nigeria known in the world as the largest economy in Africa. So like l said present your facts to the economic bodies and the Nigerian finance sector, so the data can change. When you do that then you'll be taken seriously.You are disputing the facts on ground not me, until you show me a recognized data that agrees with you. Until then allow this matter rest,even if l go by your logic and take osibanjo's 90 trlln naira political statement as fact, it is still about 290 billion dollars, using the worst ever official rate of 320-330 naira. So you see why your comparison of Kenya with Nigeria is annoying.
You are talking about cement and sugar, what about telecommunication, banking, and Agriculture. Are you saying you know more than the important bodies that matter whose job it is to calculate these things, and still tells us that Nigeria's per capita PPP is 5900 dollars? I don't think so.

arinzeejikonye:



How does that make Kenya greater than Nigeria? So having lowest infant mortality made Kenya greater than Nigeria?

DUNHHHH?? Nigga,da fuq? Is that even a question? I realise this Is why its so hard to debate with you. We don't even share universal values common to all like respect for life,especially that of the young.

jln115:

Till then we have no other option, legalising the trade is the most effective way of decreasing poaching.

You have a point, nonetheless Rhinos now have such a pitiful legal obligation, to fulfill the ignorance and greed of people in a far away continent. We should also start demanding for Panda claws and fuel legalization of trade in Panda Claws!

TayserMahiri:


Wenedem, how can you say this? Shervy will obviously be denied marriage if he jets in with Edo Airways

wenedem, what is Edo Airways?

kikuyu1:


I see the problem. Like I said you've anthropomorphised animals. You've projected nonextant human characteristics onto lions,buffalo and elephants. That's why you don't see wildlife products like zebra skins,ivory or hippo teeth are just that -animAl products,albeit immensely valuable not human body parts. You're looking at this like I advocate trade in poor people's corneas or livers!!

No, I havent anthrodone anything! Your beef is that any animal would DARE posses similar rights to you!! People like you would advocate for a game of hitting and running over wild animals (with your jeeps) just for fun, simply because they are animals!

genieluv:


Kk.
Buh if the Danfodio kind of islam was the yoruba kind of islam, why did Danfodio still go ahead to kill all the hausa sarkis claiming that they were mixing paganism with islam? Danfodio radically advocated for the purification of northern islam from every form of paganism.
This was never the case in yoruba land where paganism was allowed to co-exist with islam

**** where then did this islamic extremism come from to hausa land?

And that paganism is d reason y when an Oba dies in Yorubaland, many innocent people's head r butchered ND buried with him. Ask those in yorubaland abt oro ND its carnage.

TayserMahiri:


Damn you. Stay on your lane. Ednited is my treasured one.

wenedem , I think I must agree with you.

Hati13 n Ednited.

Do you guys have traditonal Monarchs/Kings in ET? If yes, i'd like to know them pls.

*** Here r some Nigerian kings. They r quite powerful in their territories/cities here in Nigeria.

jln115:

Rhino poaching has already decreased by 10% since we legalised Rhino horn trade and there have been 0 Rhino poached in the Kruger park compared to 300 at the same time last year!!

Okay. Go right ahead. If it works then why not? So whats happening down there at Kruger? The poachers come to the head offices and buy the rhino horn and set off for Asia?

NairobiWalker:


You love diverting from the topic of discussion.

Okay you want me to stick to the discussion by accepting the false claim,

Wenedem, the tides have changed now,

Bokoharam does only skeletal intermittent suicides, whose possibility of success is at barest minimum, they no longer hold territories, abducting thousands with unscrupulous coordinated syndicates,
Such tactical forms of perpetuation of dastardly acts have been hugely decimated with the recalibration and reinforcement of the reconnaissance and intelligence of the army, jtf and free volunteers

Hati13:

wenedem, what is Edo Airways?

It is the State Carrier of Edo State in Nigeria

Hati13:

wenedem , I think I must agree with you.

Isahalbash:






And that paganism is d reason y when an Oba dies in Yorubaland, many innocent people's head r butchered ND buried with him. Ask those in yorubaland abt oro ND its carnage.

Lol. I don't need to ask, i know na . Am i not a Nigerian?

*** Gaskiya al'adun yarbawa da yawancin yan kudu akwai damuwa. Mu, a kasashen mu, mun rigar mun daina irin shegu al'adun tun da. Ama yarbawa da yan Edo, sai Ubangiji.

arinzeejikonye:


Okay you want me to stick to the discussion by accepting the false claim,

Wenedem, the tides have changed now,

Bokoharam does only skeletal intermittent suicides, whose possibility of success is at barest minimum, they no longer hold territories, abducting thousands with unscrupulous coordinated syndicates,
Such tactical forms of perpetuation of dastardly acts have been hugely decimated with the recalibration and reinforcement of the reconnaissance and intelligence of the army, jtf and free volunteers

Is Boko behind the many abductions/kidnaps going on ?

Hati13:

Yes, he have. He was born and raised in Addis. I'm confident he more about Amhargn than most Amharas do. He also knows his own language Guragegn and other Ethiopian languages.


Gurages don't have their own region, but have their own Zone. There zone is located in Southern Nations, Nationalities and People Region. I think it's about 200-250km South of Addis Ababa.

There population is about 5% of Ethiopians(about 5,000,000).


Her father was Oromo and mother Eritrean. She was born in Gondar, Amhara region(Ethiopia).

I don't know if she identify herself as Ethiopian or Eritrean.

Kk. I see.
Is there still intermarriage between Ethiopians n Eritreans nowadays? Cos i heard that Eritreans dislike Ethios a lot.

kikuyu1:


DUNHHHH?? Nigga,da fuq? Is that even a question? I realise this Is why its so hard to debate with you. We don't even share universal values common to all like respect for life,especially that of the young.

Yes no respect to life in Nigeria, all kids are killed immediately at the instance of their birth,
Those of us you engage in nairaland were killed, but we are superhuman with immortality, so we die and resurrect countless of times.

mtis:

A terminus somewhere in Africa

I can see the yellow rail wagons

TayserMahiri:


Is Boko behind the many abductions/kidnaps going on ?

Since you know it better than even Nigerians,
Why not tell us how many millions of Nigerians have been kidnapped and abducted,
Waiting for your reply.................