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Re: Nigeria’s Problems Started With Awo’s Introduction Of Tribal Politics — Unongo by jargo89(m): 6:13pm On Jun 26, 2017
obamabinladen:


OBJ's presidency is a case of dog eating his own meat. After the Hausas had killed MKO, they made OBJ the President just to pacify your people. This is the reason MKO's son said that the Yorubas killed his father and shared his meat. The Yorubas shouldn't have accepted that offer, they should have rather went for the killers of MKO.
Same way Ojukwu wanted the presidency in a country that killed millions of his people? Maybe you should have adviced him instead.

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Re: Nigeria’s Problems Started With Awo’s Introduction Of Tribal Politics — Unongo by shukuokukobambi: 6:15pm On Jun 26, 2017
obamabinladen:


OBJ's presidency is a case of dog eating his own meat. After the Hausas had killed MKO, they made OBJ the President just to pacify your people. This is the reason MKO's son said that the Yorubas killed his father and shared his meat. The Yorubas shouldn't have accepted that offer, they should have rather went for the killers of MKO.

shameless boy you're. 3 million ibos died yet ojukwu came back to contest under the party of their killers. Are you guys that valueless? angry

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Re: Nigeria’s Problems Started With Awo’s Introduction Of Tribal Politics — Unongo by positivetaught: 6:15pm On Jun 26, 2017
[quote author=StOla post=57856488]

He won a seat because he took up residence along the fringes of Lagos prior to the election. He won his single seat, and has national leader of NCNC he would become their leader in government due to the way the parliamentary system is structured. You don't need to be generally popular, you only need to win your own seat, and by priviledge of being party leader you become the leader either as opposition or as government. Awolowo ensured Azikiwe would only have the role of opposition leader as he formed an alliance with the Ibandan People's Party and other independents to achieve a majority over NCNC.

Azikiwe ran back to the East and usurped the Premiership of Dr Eyo Ita. [/courseThis is the very point unongo was trying to stress,zik had to run to the east became Awo played the tribal card to deny him the premiership in the west,the westerners knew from onset that the leader of the majority party would be the premier, they also knew zik as the party leader,Awo probably never thought of zik as any significant force in his enclave only to be shocked n result to the tribal card,Awo was not entirely wrong but he should have foreseen that probability of zik's party victory at least during the build up n work against it at that stage,now like it or hate it Awo will always be blame for introducing tribal politics in Nigeria even though for a good course.so instead of insulting unongo for stating a fact you can with sound reason justify his actions.
Re: Nigeria’s Problems Started With Awo’s Introduction Of Tribal Politics — Unongo by jargo89(m): 6:18pm On Jun 26, 2017
HzRF:

Are with Ur senses
Or wait u think m igbo?
U must be a bubbling fool

Answer my question

Who introduced tribalism?

Awolowo?

If u can't when swerve to a nearby lagoon
It you who is the fool. Asking who introduced tribalism. Is that even a sensible question? Its like asking who introduced racism. Brother you have nothing else to say.

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Re: Nigeria’s Problems Started With Awo’s Introduction Of Tribal Politics — Unongo by reuben79: 6:21pm On Jun 26, 2017
BuariCopyPaste:
May you live long for saying the truth sir. For the first time in the history of Nigeria, someone from the northern part of Nigeria has said the bitter truth.
Awolowo introduced tribalism in to Nigeria government.

His e-rats will soon come online to disagree with this old man that witnessed what Awo did.

I have said it earlier that Yorubas are the real problem of Nigeria.
if yorubas ar real problem of nigeria,wat abt northern?ar dey nt terriorist for nigeria nd eastern ar criminals who spoil nigeria name both home nd abroad

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Re: Nigeria’s Problems Started With Awo’s Introduction Of Tribal Politics — Unongo by sangresan(m): 6:24pm On Jun 26, 2017
You can see ill-educated Nigerians abusing one another over a false revision of history by a man with a shady past.
Was there any cross carpet in the Western Region?

NO NO NO

Who propagated the falsehood?

Nnamdi Azikwe did so through his West African Pilot.

If you know the power of the mass media today,just imagine how powerful a widely read newspaper could have been in the Nigeria of the 50s..

Why do people persist in spreading a discredited myth?

Because Nigerians are very lazy intellectually.


Can't Zik or Unongo abi wetin him dey call himself provide the names of those who cross carpeted?

Am waiting for the supporters of Chief Paul Unongo to furnish us with the names of those who cross carpeted from the so-called NCNC to the Action Group.

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Re: Nigeria’s Problems Started With Awo’s Introduction Of Tribal Politics — Unongo by jargo89(m): 6:25pm On Jun 26, 2017
Marcelo290:
Before you jump into people's mention, you have to check where the argument started to avoid sounding stupid, the poster I quoted was doubting the known fact that it was Awolowo who brought in tribal politics into Nigeria, my afromentioned statement was to correct his assertions when he was saying Zik started it.

My aim was to make corrections, so you can now run along with your tribal e-war cos am not part of you guys.
You've actually sounded stupid, only your brain tells you otherwise. You made a statement which i disagreed with and that to you has led to a so-called e-war.

And the 'you guys' line shows how deluded you are. If you cant accept people having a differing opinion, its best you shut it.

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Re: Nigeria’s Problems Started With Awo’s Introduction Of Tribal Politics — Unongo by Dedetwo(m): 6:27pm On Jun 26, 2017
StOla:
Why didn't Azikiwe resume in the Western Region as a leader of opposition? Atleast he still had his single seat he won and his party was now holding minority seats when compared to the majority seat that Awolowo and his independents alliance held?

Because he only wanted to lead and not follow. So he ran back to the Eastern region and usurped Dr Eyo Ita as the Premier of that region. All of a sudden, Azikiwe remembered he had a village in the East, yet he wanted to be a Western Premier, when the North had a Northerner and the East had Eyo Ita an Easterner. Or could Awolowo have ran to the East to contest for Eastern Premier if he had failed in his Western bid like Azikiwe quickly retraced his steps?

A man who having schooled in the US and not UK like Awolowo, did not understand parliamentary system of government. He foolishly chose to partner with the Northern NPC to become ceremonial president as opposed to being executive Prime Minister in an NCNC and AG alliance. The same American education would not allow Azikiwe to agree to Awolowo's demand to have a secession clause in the constitution. America had fought a civil war to keep it's territory intact between the slave owning South and the emancipated North Yankees. While a parliamentary Britain had managed to settle for Irish separation from the UK.
In the end, it is his people that suffered for his political ignorance, and ended up fighting a civil war like the Southern Americans and lost like them.

But seriously, how can a tremendously educated Western Region have an Easterner who was only the first generation of educated Igbos as Premier? Even the poorly educated North had a Northerner. What did Azikiwe who was a Lagos politician know about the yearnings and aspirations of the Western Region?

In retrospect, Awolowo proved to be a blessing to the Western region and scored many firsts in Africa, that the rest of Nigeria had to play catch-up.

Abeg, cry me a river.

Are you this lazy? How could Zik stay in western region when the peeps he strategized in dark corners in order to win election all of a sudden remembered they were Yar.ba? The dude was lucky or very intelligent to still have his life intact. The Alaafin of Oyo, who was an epitome son of the soil, paid dearly for his opposition to tribal politics in western region. It appears there are too many goofy kids on this forum.
Re: Nigeria’s Problems Started With Awo’s Introduction Of Tribal Politics — Unongo by ThatFairGuy: 6:27pm On Jun 26, 2017
When hypocrites, one sided and demented soul speaks, peoples of intellect knows. Pa Awo can't be a dumbass and that's why we(Yorubas( praise and will continue extolling him till eternity!

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Re: Nigeria’s Problems Started With Awo’s Introduction Of Tribal Politics — Unongo by drmuri(m): 6:28pm On Jun 26, 2017
Ofemmanu1:


If you can read and understand this post, your paranoia will cease.

IGBOS in their confusion, infusion and frustration arising from pride and over estimation of themselves leading them to a series of saboteur maniac syndromes.
Igbos broadly divided other Nigerians into three broad categories. Those they hate, those they deride and those they fear. Those they hate are the yorubas whom they call traitors, tribalists and cowards. Yet no race in Nigeria have been more tribal than the lbos.
There are historical facts to prove this. If something is ten and igbos are not allowed to take 15, so that the rest of us can share minus 5, lgbos will cry marginalisation and label the rest us tribalists. However there is no race in this country that have been more accommodating of the lgbos than the Yorubas, there is no single igbo leader that did not grow up in the South West or is a beneficiary of Yoruba largesse.
Zik went to CMS GRAMMAR SCHOOL, Adolphus wabara went to AHMADIYA COLLEGE AGEGE, Ken Nnamani went to LOYOLA COLLEGE IBADAN, Ojukwu and Ekwueme went to KINGS COLLEGE, Okpara went to YABA TECH while Phillip Emegwali went to AQUINAS COLLEGE, AKURE. Even my brother Anadu went to IMADE COLLEGE OWO etc All major Igbo politicians cut their political teeth in the West. Their major religious leaders cannot thrive outside the West. Pastor Muoka, Pastor Ezekiel of Four Square and Okonkwo of TREM are examples.
I remember that after the civil WAR, Igbos who came back to ILE IFE were allowed TUITION FREE while the YORUBAS in NSUKKA were rusticated. Example is Pastor Adeboye. Yet lgbos reserve their greatest hatred for the Yorubas for reasons being that the yorubas refused to be dominated by the lbos to confront the North.
As to the label of cowardice, had there been any war between the yorubas and the lbos in which the lbos defeated the Yorubas? In the whole ancestral history of Ndigbo, which war has the forefathers or great forefathers fought? Any empire in their history? Yet the yorubas have worsted the lgbos four times in the political history of Nigeria.
As to the label of treachery, had there been any agreement the yorubas signed with the lbos and they reneged? The answer is no. Yet the yorubas have records of Igbo treachery on the two occasions they formed alliance with them. In 1964 to fight the federal election, the yorubas formed an Alliance called UPGA with the Ibos to be led by Okpara because major Yoruba leaders were in jail. There was an agreement that the election must be boycotted. The Igbos sabotaged it, went and contested election while the West kept to the agreement.
In 1979 the West went into alliance with the lbos and formed PPA - PROGRESSIVE PEOPLE ALLIANCE. Again Igbo sabotaged it so that they can produce Speaker house of Representatives. Who then is traitor? The second category are the Eastern minorities made up of present Rivers, Akwa lbom, Cross Rivers and Bayelsa. The igbos see them as subhuman with tidal brain. Until the creation of Rivers State by Gowon, no OGONI man can sleep on the hospital bed in Bori GENERAL HOSPITAL . As at 1977 only UYO ,PHC and CALABAR had electricity light. They were so underdeveloped by their Igbo overseers that you will think that you were in the Congo jungle.
Until Diette Spiff, there was no Ikwere named Street in Port Harcourt. To show how deep the derision is, the present Biafran agitatators changed the name of RIBISI (Phc) to IGWOCHA as if the IKWERES do not exist.
The third category are the Hausa Fulani. The igbos pretend to hate the Fulanis but the truth is that the Igbo man is subservient to them. Ignore the noise. There are historical facts to justify this. Zik served under BALEWA, EKWUEME served under SHAGARI and EKEREMANDU zoned the PDP presidency to the North because he wants to be the VICE PRESIDENT to a Northerner. After the civil war and OJUKWU was granted amnesty for his rebellion against constituted authority, he returned to Nigeria and he joined the Hausa fulani party (NPN) of those he accused of genocide against his Igbo people. It is Igbo tragedy that they hate and deride those who grow and sustain them while they cringe to those(the hausas) who kick them like balls. Igbos are the only race in nigeria that celebrate failure. In 1982, the igbos celebrated the defeat of biafra by welcoming ojukwu with fanfare on his return from asylum haven been granted amnesty by the igbo overlords- the hausa fulani. He revelled in the fanfare and promptly married FFK left over- forgotten the over 3million lgbos that died in the war and with many of them languishing at OJI RIVER CAMP.
The second celebration is the release of kanu with the most humiliating bail conditions ever granted an accused in the annals of Nigerian justice system. A bail conditions targeted at the entire Igbo race and granted by an Hausa Fulani judge. I could not believe that with all the noise, such bail conditions will be signed. But he signed and in his eagerness to leave kuje he abandoned his two conspirators in kuje. The bail conditions wiped out the Identity of the ibos and EKEREMANDU was made the enforcer of the conditions. FFK is a polemist like Femi ARIBISALA etc. They have the capacity to argue both sides of the same point. The igbos regard him as their hero just like Ayo fayose the Eze gburugburu the second. I hope very soon the by Igbo will not start blaming fayose as they blamed Awo for everything that went wrong with their prosecution of the biafran war. I rest.
#Akin writing from PH.

a cold bottle if zobo for this brilliant chap

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Re: Nigeria’s Problems Started With Awo’s Introduction Of Tribal Politics — Unongo by fayaayoa: 6:31pm On Jun 26, 2017
obamabinladen:


Pls don't mind these set of people, they are naturally lazy. Out of their laziness and stupidity, they will be shouting that the Igbos imports fake products and I asks, what stopped them from importing original products and leave the Igbos with their fake products?. Their laziness is legendary.

in your country Biafra, you will have enough of fake products and likes of Evans.

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Re: Nigeria’s Problems Started With Awo’s Introduction Of Tribal Politics — Unongo by OgaBuhari: 6:33pm On Jun 26, 2017
Razorblades:

Poisoned shit food you all eat is affecting your brain.

Re: Nigeria’s Problems Started With Awo’s Introduction Of Tribal Politics — Unongo by Marcelo290(m): 6:33pm On Jun 26, 2017
shukuokukobambi:


Before you start hyperventilating next time, learn to comprehend issues above your level of intellect. What is tribalistic about Awo asking Zik to go back to his homeland to rule? Have you called out Zik's wickedness in preventing Eyo Ita, a non-ibo esterner from being premier of eastern region? If you and Paul Unongo call it tribalism, it's your cup of garri. I endorse it fully!!

Zik was the ultimate tribalist and it started a long time before 1959. Read up on the politics of the Nigerian Youth Movement, NYM, and stop embarrassing your education in public angry
I needn't read up anything cos I have it all at the tip of my fingers, look for ignorant people you can toss around, Herbert Macaulay was the leader of NYM, and Zik took over after his death, what politics did he play there? he ain't a saint neither, but the point of argument here is that he brought tribal politics into Nigeria, if you accept with that, then case closed, I'm not in the habit of running around in circles.
Re: Nigeria’s Problems Started With Awo’s Introduction Of Tribal Politics — Unongo by ThatFairGuy: 6:33pm On Jun 26, 2017
Hmmmmn question to ask! He is nonentity
shukuokukobambi:


shameless boy you're. 3 million ibos died yet ojukwu came back to contest under the party of their killers. Are you guys that valueless? angry
Re: Nigeria’s Problems Started With Awo’s Introduction Of Tribal Politics — Unongo by sangresan(m): 6:34pm On Jun 26, 2017
[quote author=positivetaught post=57859695][/quote]You don't know what you are saying.
Ibadan People's Party and the other minority parties were free to negotiate with any other party they deemed fit to form government.
Adegoke Adelabu of the IPP joined NCNC while 5 others joined the AG.
I don't know why people are crying tribalism here.
Independent candidates also contested in the election and many of them were card carrying Action Group members.After the election,they also swelled up the ranks of Action Group parliamentarians...NCNC never had the majority unlike the falsehood Zik sold his gullible supporters.

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Re: Nigeria’s Problems Started With Awo’s Introduction Of Tribal Politics — Unongo by obamabinladen(m): 6:35pm On Jun 26, 2017
shukuokukobambi:


shameless boy you're. 3 million ibos died yet ojukwu came back to contest under the party of their killers. Are you guys that valueless? angry


Shataaap. I will kill you with the truth.
Re: Nigeria’s Problems Started With Awo’s Introduction Of Tribal Politics — Unongo by obamabinladen(m): 6:37pm On Jun 26, 2017
fayaayoa:

in your country Biafra, you will have enough of fake products and likes of Evans.

Just as you have enough human skull and likes of Ishola Oyenusi
Re: Nigeria’s Problems Started With Awo’s Introduction Of Tribal Politics — Unongo by sunbracosun(m): 6:38pm On Jun 26, 2017
This man unogo or what do you call your name, expect yoruba to surrender their land to an over ambitious man
No Yoruba is wiser than that.

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Re: Nigeria’s Problems Started With Awo’s Introduction Of Tribal Politics — Unongo by darediamond(m): 6:39pm On Jun 26, 2017
StOla:
Why didn't Azikiwe resume in the Western Region as a leader of opposition? Atleast he still had his single seat he won and his party was now holding minority seats when compared to the majority seat that Awolowo and his independents alliance held?

Because he only wanted to lead and not follow. So he ran back to the Eastern region and usurped Dr Eyo Ita as the Premier of that region. All of a sudden, Azikiwe remembered he had a village in the East, yet he wanted to be a Western Premier, when the North had a Northerner and the East had Eyo Ita an Easterner. Or could Awolowo have ran to the East to contest for Eastern Premier if he had failed in his Western bid like Azikiwe quickly retraced his steps?

A man who having schooled in the US and not UK like Awolowo, did not understand parliamentary system of government. He foolishly chose to partner with the Northern NPC to become ceremonial president as opposed to being executive Prime Minister in an NCNC and AG alliance. The same American education would not allow Azikiwe to agree to Awolowo's demand to have a secession clause in the constitution. America had fought a civil war to keep it's territory intact between the slave owning South and the emancipated North Yankees. While a parliamentary Britain had managed to settle for Irish separation from the UK.
In the end, it is his people that suffered for his political ignorance, and ended up fighting a civil war like the Southern Americans and lost like them.

But seriously, how can a tremendously educated Western Region have an Easterner who was only the first generation of educated Igbos as Premier? Even the poorly educated North had a Northerner. What did Azikiwe who was a Lagos politician know about the yearnings and aspirations of the Western Region?

In retrospect, Awolowo proved to be a blessing to the Western region and scored many firsts in Africa, that the rest of Nigeria had to play catch-up.

Abeg, cry me a river.
Jo oooo!!!!!
Come on men Nnas, cry us A River. We Afonjas 1 swim grin grin
Se total finishing!!!!!

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Re: Nigeria’s Problems Started With Awo’s Introduction Of Tribal Politics — Unongo by Razorblades: 6:41pm On Jun 26, 2017

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Re: Nigeria’s Problems Started With Awo’s Introduction Of Tribal Politics — Unongo by Guestlander: 6:42pm On Jun 26, 2017
bibe:


Can you kindly furnish me with any available sources for the speech and/or the said publication titled football illiad.
I've searched extensively but can't find it on Google.
Cheers.

This was a passage taken from Awo's autobiograhy which was published in January 1960. Read it and ponder on it, that was your nationalist.
His attitude and tactics are eerily similar to what we read from Igbos today.


An article written by Zik himself, published on the front page of the Pilot, and entitled: "'Football Iliad, 1940 Edition'", shocked many people. It was a big step forward in an insidious campaign which had gone on for more than two years on the pages of the Pilot. A football team composed of students of the Christ the King's College, Onitsha, came to Lagos to play a 'Win the War' football match against St Gregory's College. The CKC team from Onitsha defeated St Gregory's team by 5 goals to 4. To the ordinary man in the street, let alone the highly sophisticated elements, there was nothing extraordinary or unusual in one school or college defeating another in a game of soccer. But not so with Dr Azikiwe. He saw in the sporting exploits and triumph of the team from Onitsha the inherent superiority of the easterners over their opponents, and he went to very great pains to establish this fact, by means of careful choice of words and emphasis. These extracts from the article are relevant: And then to think of the great combination of the Spartan heroes who crossed the lordly Niger, journeyed through the good earth of Benin, hurried across the domains of the Oshemawe of Ondo, of the Atanla of Owo, of the Owa of Ilesha, of the Oni of Ife, of the Alake of Abeokuta in their invasion of these islands!
Who, but heroes of mighty brawn and exceptionally developed brain would have dared to make this invasion and to succeed in carrying to their River Niger home, the Golden Fleece of InterCollegiate Soccer Championship of the Eastern and Western Provinces?
Yet they came to Lagos, they saw the irresistible defence put up by their opponents, and they conquered impressively, convincingly, and were graceful even in victory!
Could their achievement be paralleled?
Would it not be better for me to leave the answer to the laps of the gods?

On 24 August 1940, however, the same CKC team played in Ibadan against the Olubadan XI in another 'Win the War' match. The CKC were beaten 3-2 by the Olubadan XI which were an undiluted Yoruba team. Apart from sending the news to the Daily service myself, I also saw to it that it was wired to the Pilot. It was after there had been clamours in the Daily service, in form of letters to the editor, that the news of this Ibadan match was published some two weeks later in the Pilot. Even then, it was a small item on the back page, and it was explained in it that the CKC team were already tired and that some of them were in fact limping, before they went into the field against Olubadan XI. This was of course untrue.
I said before that the CKC episode was a big step forward in an insidious campaign which had gone on for more than two years on the pages of the Pilot. One or two more instances will be given. By the time the Pilot had published for a year, an important feature of the paper had become manifest. The Igbos in particular were given inordinate publicity on the pages of the paper. Perhaps this was as it should be. The Igbo had never had a share in newspaper publicity before the advent of the Pilot. But equally so, no Yoruba man of the class of the Igbos publicised in the Pilot ever had a share of publicity in any paper either. In those days one had to be an outstanding politician, a big shot in society, or a well-connected person, for one's name to appear in the Nigerian Daily Times, Nigerian Daily Telegraph andLagos Daily News. Of course if you had a friend working in the news or composing section of a paper, no matter who you were, you might be slipped in. Names of people like myself appeared in the papers simply because we were agitators or free-lance journalists. All the same, it was generally agreed that the Igbos needed all the boosting they could get.But Dr Azikiwe went about it in a manner which disgusted those of us who were used to describing citizens of Nigeria as Nigerians or Africans, and regarding their achievements as reflecting credit on Nigeria, indeed Africa, as a whole. The following are typical of the titles of front page news items and of editorial articles in the Pilot.


1. ' Ibo Young Man to Sail to U.K.' is the heading of a frontpage story and picture on September 23, 1938. The young man is Mr Jaja Wachuku, now Speaker of Nigeria's House of Representatives.
2. '14th West African Student, 10th Nigerian, 8th Ibo in U.S.A.' Another front-page story on January 28, 1939. The 8th Ibo is Mr Nwafor Orizu, now Senator in Nigeria's Upper House.
3. 'Ibo Medical Student Passes Exam In First Class Honours.' Yet another front page story, on June 26, 1940, of the brilliant success of Dr S. O. Egwuatu.
4. Editorials:
i. ' A Model Union' ( August 8, 1938) in praise of the Ibibio State Union.
ii. 'One Year Ago' ( August 18, 1938) celebrating the first anniversary of the call to the Bar of the first Ibo lawyer, in the person of Mr Justice Louis Mbanefo, now Chief Justice of the Eastern Region High Court.
iii. 'The Ibo Are Coming' ( December 31, 1938) -- The very title is sufficiently indicative of the contents.

These are but a few examples of the publicity given to Igbos as a group. But as against these, the achievements of Yorubas and, in particular, the academic laurels of their scholars received, if at all, inconspicuous notice in the Pilot. When an Igbo did or was about to do something praiseworthy, he was invariably given a two-column headline and report in the Pilot, and was always described by his ethnic origin in the headlines. But when the Ph.D. degree of London University, indeed of any university for that matter, was conferred on the first Nigerian ever, the historic news was given a small singlecolumn space in the Pilot, and the headline read: 'Nigerian Economist Passes Ph.D. London.' The scholar concerned was Dr Fadipe, a Yoruba. As late as 1945, two Nigerian law students of Cambridge University, one Yoruba and one Igbo, passed the Law Tripos Examination. The Yoruba passed with second class honours (upper division), and the Igbo also passed with second class honours but in the lower division. The latter got front page publicity in the Pilot, but the former got a small space given to him on the back page a few days after the report of his Igbo colleague had appeared. As for outstanding Yoruba public men, they were all of them daubed as 'imperialist stooges' and ' Uncle Toms'.

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Re: Nigeria’s Problems Started With Awo’s Introduction Of Tribal Politics — Unongo by tete7000(m): 6:42pm On Jun 26, 2017
Marcelo290:
Atimes I blame those who scrapped history from our curriculum...just look at the sheer ignorance you are displaying.

Azikiwe that was a renowned nationalist and insisted on one Nigeria even at the expense of his own brothers during the war, he used his newspaper to propagate African liberation from the colonists, unlike Awolowo who focused more on regional politics which landed him in prison...

I often admire Zik for his nationalistic view but in all honesty I often believe he is too much an idealist who couldn't appreciate the reality of his time. Survival often require that you adapt to reality of time. I am a Yoruba and you really won't expect me to castigate Awo for doing what he did. I don't know what he saw and why he took the path he took. Is he a tribalist? That will be a difficult question to answer, most especially looking at how the country has evolved. Would the country have taken a nationalistic direction had Awo not pull that coup on Zik? Whatever answer we arrived at will just be a mere conjecture because it is an event that never happen and we can never know other variables that could have come in and probably even created a worse scenario that we currently have. Other regions had their own as premiers, only western region would have been an exception, in that wise it wouldn't mean Nigeria as a whole was not tribalistic but rather the southwest was not tribalistic. Could southwest allowing Zik be made impact on other regions' region tribal outlook? Again we cant conclude because whatever conclusion we reach will still be mere conjectures.

However, following the history and studying the course the country eventually took, it is always my conclusion that Zik though probably a great nationalist but too much an idealist who refused to accept the reality of Nigeria tribal politics and as such wasn't really able to help his people in ways others do for their own. He pursued the mirage called Nigeria too far and he is one of those who make the topic of restructuring the country a difficult one.
That said, I usually want to say that those men did their best within their limitations. What is required is that current generation of leaders pick lessons from the past and see how they can push the country forward. Dwelling in the past won't solve the current national problems.

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Re: Nigeria’s Problems Started With Awo’s Introduction Of Tribal Politics — Unongo by Unimaginable123: 6:42pm On Jun 26, 2017
StOla:


The real question is what was Azikiwe's business contesting for elections in the SW. Nigeria was not yet independent, yet the Igbos were already planning how to take over everywhere.

We knew him to be born in Zungeru which is in the North, and tribally from Onitcha in the East, and politically a son of Herbert Macaulay in Lagos the capital of Nigeria.

So what exactly was his business competing outside his land of birth or tribe, when other regions were having indigenous Premiers?

Anyway, Awolowo who understood parliamentary politics knew that you don't become premier until a government was formed. Azikiwe found himself seating on his single seat which he won, and he still had his band of thoughtless Yoruba NCNC party members who also had won seats, yet were not ambitious to aspire to the Premiership in their own region.
Zik did not contest for election in SW. His party did. Parliamentary system of government as practised in the UK (which is what Nigeria was practising then) is different from presidential system of govt. U better read it up

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Re: Nigeria’s Problems Started With Awo’s Introduction Of Tribal Politics — Unongo by absoluteSuccess: 6:43pm On Jun 26, 2017
obamabinladen:



The question is not why he ran for that post in SW but why your people in SW nominated and voted for him. For Awo to annul his victory is the height of tribalism but thank God for karma who paid the Yorubas in their own coin in June 12.

And Karma added OBJ as jara to the payback.

What stops Sik from fielding a Yorubaman as premier of Western region?

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Re: Nigeria’s Problems Started With Awo’s Introduction Of Tribal Politics — Unongo by darediamond(m): 6:45pm On Jun 26, 2017
bakynes:
Tribal politics or not it doesn't make sense for an easterners to come to the west to be first Minister. The truth is that for an easterners like Zik even trying to be leader of the western region shows the hospitable nature of the Yorubas.

Re: Nigeria’s Problems Started With Awo’s Introduction Of Tribal Politics — Unongo by Canme4u(m): 6:55pm On Jun 26, 2017
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If you can read and understand this post, your paranoia will cease.

IGBOS in their confusion, infusion and frustration arising from pride and over estimation of themselves leading them to a series of saboteur maniac syndromes.
Igbos broadly divided other Nigerians into three broad categories. Those they hate, those they deride and those they fear. Those they hate are the yorubas whom they call traitors, tribalists and cowards. Yet no race in Nigeria have been more tribal than the lbos.
There are historical facts to prove this. If something is ten and igbos are not allowed to take 15, so that the rest of us can share minus 5, lgbos will cry marginalisation and label the rest us tribalists. However there is no race in this country that have been more accommodating of the lgbos than the Yorubas, there is no single igbo leader that did not grow up in the South West or is a beneficiary of Yoruba largesse.
Zik went to CMS GRAMMAR SCHOOL, Adolphus wabara went to AHMAD
Re: Nigeria’s Problems Started With Awo’s Introduction Of Tribal Politics — Unongo by Marcelo290(m): 7:00pm On Jun 26, 2017
tete7000:


I often admire Zik for his nationalistic view but in all honesty I often believe he is too much an idealist who couldn't appreciate the reality of his time. Survival often require that you adapt to reality of time. I am a Yoruba and you really won't expect me to castigate Awo for doing what he did. I don't know what he saw and why he took the path he took. Is he a tribalist? That will be a difficult question to answer, most especially looking at how the country has evolved. Would the country have taken a nationalistic direction had Awo not pull that coup on Zik? Whatever answer we arrived at will just be a mere conjecture because it is an event that never happen and we can never know other variables that could have come in and probably even created a worse scenario that we currently have. Other regions had their own as premiers, only western region would have been an exception, in that wise it wouldn't mean Nigeria as a whole was not tribalistic but rather the southwest was not tribalistic. Could southwest allowing Zik be made impact on other regions' region tribal outlook? Again we cant conclude because whatever conclusion we reach will still be mere conjectures.

However, following the history and studying the course the country eventually took, it is always my conclusion that Zik though probably a great nationalist but too much an idealist who refused to accept the reality of Nigeria tribal politics and as such wasn't really able to help his people in ways others do for their own. He pursued the mirage called Nigeria too far and he is one of those who make the topic of restructuring the country a difficult one.
That said, I usually want to say that those men did their best within their limitations. What is required is that current generation of leaders pick lessons from the past and see how they can push the country forward. Dwelling in the past won't solve the current national problems.
I can't agree more with you, you are very correct. while the likes of Awo and Ahmadu Bello were facing realities and providing free education for her regions, Zik was busy struggling to be and object of national unity which never existed, he came out when the civil war was tense in the boundary between the then Nigeria and Bight of Biafra and raised his both hands up emphasizing one Nigeria... most Igbos would never forgive him for this cos this helped to weaken the Biafran army.

According to him, he wouldn't accent to the division of a country he once struggled to fight for it's independence.

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Re: Nigeria’s Problems Started With Awo’s Introduction Of Tribal Politics — Unongo by Marcelo290(m): 7:03pm On Jun 26, 2017
jargo89:
I am not accepting the 'you guys on NL' phrase being directed to me. If you had checked my also 'few' posts and see the 'Afonjas' and 'Igbos'; then i might understand you reason for using the phrase. I am not in that ilk.

The reason I mentioned you was 'cos I developed interest in your post and disagreed with it. Countering with an insult was uncalled for. Anyways, do have a nice evening.
A nice evening to you too Sire, am really sorry if I sounded insulting, never meant to.
Re: Nigeria’s Problems Started With Awo’s Introduction Of Tribal Politics — Unongo by rugipp(m): 7:09pm On Jun 26, 2017
StOla:
Why didn't Azikiwe resume in the Western Region as a leader of opposition? Atleast he still had his single seat he won and his party was now holding minority seats when compared to the majority seat that Awolowo and his independents alliance held?

Because he only wanted to lead and not follow. So he ran back to the Eastern region and usurped Dr Eyo Ita as the Premier of that region. All of a sudden, Azikiwe remembered he had a village in the East, yet he wanted to be a Western Premier, when the North had a Northerner and the East had Eyo Ita an Easterner. Or could Awolowo have ran to the East to contest for Eastern Premier if he had failed in his Western bid like Azikiwe quickly retraced his steps?

A man who having schooled in the US and not UK like Awolowo, did not understand parliamentary system of government. He foolishly chose to partner with the Northern NPC to become ceremonial president as opposed to being executive Prime Minister in an NCNC and AG alliance. The same American education would not allow Azikiwe to agree to Awolowo's demand to have a secession clause in the constitution. America had fought a civil war to keep it's territory intact between the slave owning South and the emancipated North Yankees. While a parliamentary Britain had managed to settle for Irish separation from the UK.
In the end, it is his people that suffered for his political ignorance, and ended up fighting a civil war like the Southern Americans and lost like them.

But seriously, how can a tremendously educated Western Region have an Easterner who was only the first generation of educated Igbos as Premier? Even the poorly educated North had a Northerner. What did Azikiwe who was a Lagos politician know about the yearnings and aspirations of the Western Region?

In retrospect, Awolowo proved to be a blessing to the Western region and scored many firsts in Africa, that the rest of Nigeria had to play catch-up.

Abeg, cry me a river.

This is what I call finishing. You know what you are saying. The facts are there. God blessyou

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Re: Nigeria’s Problems Started With Awo’s Introduction Of Tribal Politics — Unongo by Kingspin(m): 7:10pm On Jun 26, 2017
StOla:
Why didn't Azikiwe resume in the Western Region as a leader of opposition? Atleast he still had his single seat he won and his party was now holding minority seats when compared to the majority seat that Awolowo and his independents alliance held?

Because he only wanted to lead and not follow. So he ran back to the Eastern region and usurped Dr Eyo Ita as the Premier of that region. All of a sudden, Azikiwe remembered he had a village in the East, yet he wanted to be a Western Premier, when the North had a Northerner and the East had Eyo Ita an Easterner. Or could Awolowo have ran to the East to contest for Eastern Premier if he had failed in his Western bid like Azikiwe quickly retraced his steps?

A man who having schooled in the US and not UK like Awolowo, did not understand parliamentary system of government. He foolishly chose to partner with the Northern NPC to become ceremonial president as opposed to being executive Prime Minister in an NCNC and AG alliance. The same American education would not allow Azikiwe to agree to Awolowo's demand to have a secession clause in the constitution. America had fought a civil war to keep it's territory intact between the slave owning South and the emancipated North Yankees. While a parliamentary Britain had managed to settle for Irish separation from the UK.
In the end, it is his people that suffered for his political ignorance, and ended up fighting a civil war like the Southern Americans and lost like them.

But seriously, how can a tremendously educated Western Region have an Easterner who was only the first generation of educated Igbos as Premier? Even the poorly educated North had a Northerner. What did Azikiwe who was a Lagos politician know about the yearnings and aspirations of the Western Region?

In retrospect, Awolowo proved to be a blessing to the Western region and scored many firsts in Africa, that the rest of Nigeria had to play catch-up.

Abeg, cry me a river.
Since June 12, the cry is all over the country no peace.

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