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DabELLs:


INDEED THE BIBLE IS NOT CURRUPT.
SO, MOSED WAS NOT SENT BY GOD, ABI?
CHAI!! OR HE WAS NOT INSPIRED BY HOLY SPIRIT BUT PAUL WHO USED TO KILLED THE FOLLOWER OF JESUS WAS INSPIRED BY HOLY SPIRIT AFTER HE HAD KILLED MANY OF THEM AND LIED TO THE FEW THAT REMAINED THAT HE SAW VISSION ON HIS WAY TO DAMASCUS...

oga na wah for your matter sha, if i ask you to buy me a car and you go ahead to buy the car and a spare battery along, would you say im the one that asked you to buy the battery?
Paul lied to the few left after killing most and decided to follow the very path of those he killed because he is a fraud right?

No religion teaches people to be bad, some people just chosed to. There are good people in both religion.

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DabELLs:


I ALREADY TOLD YOU HAVE COMPREHENSION PROBLEM. I EVEN SHARE A LINK THAT WILL BREAK IT DOWN FOR YOU...

THIS IS ANOTHER REASON TO KNOW THAT YOUR BIBLE IS A +18 PORNOGRAPHIC BOOK, NOT HOLY BOOK:

You may often wonder why it is that motels and hotels, especially run down and shady rooms for rent businesses, have kept Bibles in the drawers by the bedside. It isn’t any secret that the Bible is full of sexual tales, essentially it’s hardcore pornographic literature, it’s good for business, no one gains sexual morality from reading the Bible, but it sure does stir one’s fantasies:
(1) Then went Samson to Gaza, and saw there an harlot, and went in unto her. – Bible : Judges (16) : 1.
(2) And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father. – Bible : Genesis (19) : 33 – 36.
(3) And it came to pass, when Israel dwelt in that land, that Reuben went and lay with Bilhah his father’s concubine: and Israel heard it. Now the sons of Jacob were twelve. –
Bible : Genesis (35) : 22.
(4) And Judah saw there a daughter of a certain Canaanite, whose name was Shuah; and he took her, and went in unto her. – Bible: Genesis (38) : 2.
(5) And Judah said unto Onan, Go in unto thy brother’s wife, and marry her, and raise up seed to thy brother. And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother’s wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother. – Bible : Genesis (38) : 8 – 9.
(6) When Judah saw her, he thought her to be an harlot; because she had covered her face. And he turned unto her by the way, and said, Go to, I pray thee, let me come in unto thee; (for he knew not that she was his daughter in law.) And she said, What wilt thou give me, that thou mayest come in unto me? And he said, I will send thee a kid from the flock. And she said, Wilt thou give me a pledge, till thou send it? And he said, What pledge shall I give thee? And she said, Thy signet, and thy bracelets, and thy staff that is in thine hand. And he gave it her, and came in unto her, and she conceived by him. – Bible : Genesis (38) : 15 – 18.
(7) And when she had brought them unto him to eat, he took hold of her, and said unto her, Come lie with me, my sister. And she answered him, Nay, my brother, do not force me; for no such thing ought to be done in Israel: do not thou this folly. And I, whither shall I cause my shame to go? and as for thee, thou shalt be as one of the fools in Israel. Now therefore, I pray thee, speak unto the king; for he will not withhold me from thee. Howbeit he would not hearken unto her voice: but, being stronger than she, forced her, and lay with her. – Bible : 2 Samuel (13) : 11 – 14.
( So they spread Absalom a tent upon the top of the house; and Absalom went in unto his father’s concubines in the sight of all Israel. – Bible : 2 Samuel (16) : 22.
(9) Thou hast played the LovePeddler also with the Assyrians, because thou wast unsatiable; yea, thou hast played the harlot with them, and yet couldest not be satisfied. – Bible : Ezekiel (16) : 28.
(10) And they committed whoredoms in Egypt; they committed whoredoms in their youth: there were their breasts pressed, and there they bruised the teats of their virginity. – Bible : Ezekiel (23) : 3.
(11) And Aholah played the harlot when she was mine; and she doted on her lovers, on the Assyrians her neighbours, Which were clothed with blue, captains and rulers, all of them desirable young men, horsemen riding upon horses. Thus she committed her whoredoms with them, with all them that were the chosen men of Assyria, and with all on whom she doted: with all their idols she defiled herself. Neither left she her whoredoms brought from Egypt: for in her youth they lay with her, and they bruised the breasts of her virginity, and poured their whoredom upon her. – Bible : Ezekiel (23) : 5 – 8.
(12) And when her sister Aholibah saw this, she was more corrupt in her inordinate love than she, and in her whoredoms more than her sister in her whoredoms. She doted upon the Assyrians her neighbours, captains and rulers clothed most gorgeously, horsemen riding upon horses, all of them desirable young men. Then I saw that she was defiled, that they took both one way, And that she increased her whoredoms: for when she saw men pourtrayed upon the wall, the images of the Chaldeans pourtrayed with vermilion, Girded with girdles upon their loins, exceeding in dyed attire upon their heads, all of them princes to look to, after the manner of the Babylonians of Chaldea, the land of their nativity: And as soon as she saw them with her eyes, she doted upon them, and sent messengers unto them into Chaldea. And the Babylonians came to her into the bed of love, and they defiled her with their whoredom, and she was polluted with them, and her mind was alienated from them. So she discovered her whoredoms, and discovered her unclothedness: then my mind was alienated from her, like as my mind was alienated from her sister. Yet she multiplied her whoredoms, in calling to remembrance the days of her youth, wherein she had played the harlot in the land of Egypt. For she doted upon their paramours, whose flesh is as the flesh of asses, and whose issue is like the issue of horses. Thus thou calledst to remembrance the lewdness of thy youth, in bruising thy teats by the Egyptians for the paps of thy youth. – Bible : Ezekiel (23) : 11 – 21.
(13) My people ask counsel at their stocks, and their staff declareth unto them: for the spirit of whoredoms hath caused them to err, and they have gone a whoring from under their God. – Bible: Hosea (4) : 12.
(14) I have seen an horrible thing in the house of Israel: there is the whoredom of Ephraim, Israel is defiled. – Bible : Hosea (6) : 10.
(15) Rejoice not, O Israel, for joy, as other people: for thou hast gone a whoring from thy God, thou hast loved a reward upon every cornfloor. – Bible : Hosea (9) : 1.
(16) And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent. – Bible : Genesis (9) : 21.
(17) And he stripped off his clothes also, and prophesied before Samuel in like manner, and lay down naked all that day and all that night. Wherefore they say, Is Saul also among the prophets? – Bible : 1 Samuel (19) : 24.
(18) Then David returned to bless his household. And Michal the daughter of Saul came out to meet David, and said, How glorious was the king of Israel to day, who uncovered himself to day in the eyes of the handmaids of his servants, as one of the vain fellows shamelessly uncovereth himself! – Bible : 2 Samuel (6) : 20.
(19) So shall the king of Assyria lead away the Egyptians prisoners, and the Ethiopians captives, young and old, naked and barefoot, even with their buttocks uncovered, to the shame of Egypt. – Bible : Isaiah (20) : 4.
(20) And beheld among the simple ones, I discerned among the youths, a young man void of understanding, Passing through the street near her corner; and he went the way to her house, In the twilight, in the evening, in the black and dark night: And, behold, there met him a woman with the attire of an harlot, and subtil of heart. (She is loud and stubborn; her feet abide not in her house: Now is she without, now in the streets, and lieth in wait at every corner.) So she caught him, and kissed him, and with an impudent face said unto him, I have peace offerings with me; this day have I payed my vows. Therefore came I forth to meet thee, diligently to seek thy face, and I have found thee. I have decked my bed with coverings of tapestry, with carved works, with fine linen of Egypt. I have perfumed my bed with myrrh, aloes, and cinnamon. Come, let us take our fill of love until the morning: let us solace ourselves with loves. For the goodman is not at home, he is gone a long journey: He hath taken a bag of money with him, and will come home at the day appointed. With her much fair speech she caused him to yield, with the flattering of her lips she forced him. He goeth after her straightway, as an ox goeth to the slaughter, or as a fool to the correction of the stocks; – Bible : Proverbs (7) : 7 – 22.
(21) Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished. – Bible : Isaiah (13) : 16.
(22) And, lo, he hath given occasions of speech against her, saying, I found not thy daughter a maid; and yet these are the tokens of my daughter’s virginity. And they shall spread the cloth before the elders of the city. – Bible : Deuteronomy (22) : 17.
(23) While the king sitteth at his table, my spikenard sendeth forth the smell thereof. A bundle of myrrh is my well-beloved unto me; he shall lie all night betwixt my breasts. – Bible : Song of Solomon (1) : 12 – 13.
(24) Thy two breasts are like two young roes that are twins, which feed among the lilies. – Bible : Song of Solomon (4) : 5.
(25) I am a wall, and my breasts like towers: then was I in his eyes as one that found favour. – Bible : Song of Solomon ( : 10.
(26) But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves. –
Bible : Numbers (31) : 18.
(27) This thy stature is like to a palm tree, and thy breasts to clusters of grapes. I said, I will go up to the palm tree, I will take hold of the boughs thereof: now also thy breasts shall be as clusters of the vine, and the smell of thy nose like apples; – Bible : Song of Solomon (7) : 7 – 8.
(28) And David sent messengers, and took her; and she came in unto him, and he lay with her; for she was purified from her uncleanness: and she returned unto her house. –
Bible : 2 Samuel (11) : 4.
(29) Thy two breasts are like two young roes that are twins. – Bible : Song of Solomon (7) : 3.9

i dont have a comprehension problem, you love deceit above everything else, your hadith says the sun goes in continous motion, setting in one place and rising in another,which is the wrong geocentric view, but you choose to interprete it as the earth going in motion like it ought to be.are you linus mbah?besides your link says the earth is spread out like an egg, but the quran says the earth is spread out like a mat so i dont even know which to follow.
u keep saying the Bible is a pornographic book because of passages telling about the acts of men.well done. u should also boldly call your heaven a whorehouse and your god a love-vendor, to reward all his faithful servants with 72 houris and give them the power to have 53x non-stop, is there a better love-vendor than that?does mohammed get 72 also? it would be unfair to his status actually, he had atleast 11 wives while other men get a maximum of 4.

DabELLs:


YOU CALL ME ANTI CHRIST BUT YOU FAIL TO UNDERSTAND THAT CHRISTIANS TODAY ARE THE ANTI CHRIST.
ACCORDING TO ISLAM, GOD HAS NEVER ALLOWED ANY OF HIS MESSENGERS(INCLUDING JESUS) TO BE DISGRACED AND KILLED ON SOME PIECE OF STICKS... BUT YOUR RELIGION TEACHES YOU HOW HE WAS BEATEN, NAKED, SPIT ON, DIGRACED....

THIS IS WHAT MY QURAN SAYS ABOUT JESUS:
“And because of their saying (in boast), ‘We killed Messiah ‘Eesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), the Messenger of Allaah,’ — but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but it appeared so to them the resemblance of ‘Eesa (Jesus) was put over another man (and they killed that man)], and those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no (certain) knowledge, they follow nothing but conjecture. For surely; they killed him not [i.e. ‘Eesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary)]”
[al-Nisa’ 4:157]
Rather the problem rests with the Christians for whom the doctrine of the crucifixion and redemption has become a central issue, so much so that the cross is the symbol of their religion.
It is strange that they differ concerning the form of this cross which indicates their confusion about this fabrication.
There are differences between their Gospels and their historians regarding everything that has to do with the story of the crucifixion.
They differ concerning the timing of the Last Supper, which according to them was one of the events in the lead-up to the crucifixion. They differ concerning the traitor who led (the Romans) to Christ – did that happen at least one day before the Last Supper, as narrated by Luke, or during it, after Christ gave him the piece of bread, as narrated by John?
Was Christ the one who carried his cross, as John says, as was customary with one who was going to be crucified, according to Nottingham, or was it Simon of Cyrene, as the other three Gospels state?
They say that two thieves were crucified alongside Christ, one on his right and one on his left, so what was the attitude of these two towards the Messiah who was being crucified, as they claim?
Did the thieves scorn him for being crucified, and say that his Lord had abandoned him and left him to his enemies? Or did only one of them scorn him, and did the other rebuke the one who scorned him?
At what hour did this crucifixion take place – was it in the third hour, as Mark says, or in the sixth as John says?
What happened after the so-called crucifixion?
Mark says that the veil of the Temple was torn from top to bottom. Matthew adds that the earth shook and rocks crumbled, and many of the saints rose from their graves and entered the holy city, appearing to many. Luke says that the sun turned dark, and the veil of the Temple was torn in the middle, and when the centurion saw what had happened, he glorified God and said, “Truly this man was righteous.”
But John does not know anything about all that!
These are not the only weak elements and indications of falseness in the story of the crucifixion, as narrated in the gospels. Rather the one who studies the details of the gospel narratives of this story will, with the least effort, notice the great differences in the details of this story, which are such that it is impossible to believe it all or even any part of it!
How desperate are the failed attempts to fill this gap and conceal the faults of this distorted book. Allaah indeed spoke the truth when He said in His Book which He has preserved (interpretation of the meaning):
“Do they not then consider the Qur’aan carefully? Had it been from other than Allaah, they would surely, have found therein many a contradiction”
[al-Nisa’ 4:82]
Apart from the fact that the gospel accounts are not sound, and their authors themselves admit that they were not revealed to the Messiah in this form, nor were they even written during his lifetime, none of the witnesses were present at the events to which they testify, as Mark says:
“Then everyone deserted him and fled.”
Mark 14:50 – New International Version (NIV)
Because these events were not witnessed by anyone who narrated them, there is a great deal of room for imagination and poetic licence.
We will complete our discussion of the fable of the crucifixion of Christ (peace be upon him) by looking at what the Gospels say about the Messiah’s prediction that he would be saved from death:
On one occasion the Pharisees and chief priests sent the guards to arrest him and he said to them:
“I am with you for only a short time, and then I go to the one who sent me. You will look for me, but you will not find me, and where I am, you cannot come.”
John 7:33-34 – NIV
Elsewhere he says:
“Once more Jesus said to them, ‘I am going away, and you will look for me, and you will die in your sin. Where I go, you cannot come.’
This made the Jews ask, ‘Will he kill himself? Is that why he says, “Where I go, you cannot come”?’
But he continued, ‘You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world.
I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am the one I claim to be, you will indeed die in your sins.’
‘Who are you?’ they asked.
‘Just what I have been claiming all along,’ Jesus replied. ‘I have much to say in judgment of you. But he who sent me is reliable, and what I have heard from him I tell the world.’
They did not understand that he was telling them about his Father.
So Jesus said, ‘When you have lifted up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am the one I claim to be and that I do nothing on my own but speak just what the Father has taught me.
The one who sent me is with me; he has not left me alone, for I always do what pleases him.’”
John 8:21-29 – NIV
Then at the end he tells them again:
“For I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, 'Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.'”
Matthew 23:39 – NIV, also Luke 13:35
The Messiah, as these texts and others show, was certain that God would never hand him over to his enemies, and would never forsake him.
“But a time is coming, and has come, when you will be scattered, each to his own home. You will leave me all alone. Yet I am not alone, for my Father is with me.
I have told you these things, so that in me you may have peace. In this world you will have trouble. But take heart! I have overcome the world.”
John 16:32-33
Because of that the passers by, and indeed everyone who attended the so-called crucifixion, mocked the Messiah, as the writer of this Gospel says (although that could not have been true):
“Those who passed by hurled insults at him, shaking their heads
and saying, ‘You who are going to destroy the temple and build it in three days, save yourself! Come down from the cross, if you are the Son of God!’
In the same way the chief priests, the teachers of the law and the elders mocked him.
‘He saved others,’ they said, ‘but he can't save himself! He's the King of Israel! Let him come down now from the cross, and we will believe in him.
He trusts in God. Let God rescue him now if he wants him, for he said, “I am the Son of God.”’
In the same way the robbers who were crucified with him also heaped insults on him.”
Matthew 27:39-44 – NIV
But it seems that Jesus’ certainty that God was with him began to waver, according to the distorted Gospel narrative, (although that could not have been true):
“Then Jesus went with his disciples to a place called Gethsemane, and he said to them, ‘Sit here while I go over there and pray.’
He took Peter and the two sons of Zebedee along with him, and he began to be sorrowful and troubled.
Then he said to them, ‘My soul is overwhelmed with sorrow to the point of death. Stay here and keep watch with me.’
Going a little farther, he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, ‘My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will.’
Then he returned to his disciples and found them sleeping.
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He went away a second time and prayed, ‘My Father, if it is not possible for this cup to be taken away unless I drink it, may your will be done.’
When he came back, he again found them sleeping, …
So he left them and went away once more and prayed the third time, saying the same thing.
Then he returned to the disciples and said to them, ‘Are you still sleeping and resting? Look, the hour is near, and the Son of Man is betrayed into the hands of sinners’”
Matthew 26:36-45 – NIV
Luke describes the scene and says:
“And being in anguish, he prayed more earnestly, and his sweat was like drops of blood falling to the ground.
When he rose from prayer and went back to the disciples, he found them asleep, exhausted from sorrow.
‘Why are you sleeping?’ he asked them. ‘Get up and pray so that you will not fall into temptation.’”
Luke 22:44-46 – NIV
Because of this mockery of the message of Christ – according to their claims – and because Christ thought that God was with him and would never forsake him, then it follows that the writer who fabricated this dramatic scene would end it with a vision of the despair of the Messiah and his feelings of being abandoned by God – exalted be Allaah far above what the wrongdoers say. The fabricator says:
“From the sixth hour until the ninth hour darkness came over all the land.
About the ninth hour Jesus cried out in a loud voice, ‘Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani?’--which means, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?"
Matthew 27:38-47 – NIV
See also Mark 15:34
If we understand what this story means when subjected to criticism, the same will apply to the doctrine of redemption and sacrifice that is based on it.
With regard to the Christian doctrine of salvation, see also question no. 6
And Allaah is the Source of strength and the guide to the Straight Path, and there is no Lord but He.

I thought you said they were written under the influence of Paul?then why should they all have different accounts?why exactly did Paul and the Jews persecute the Christians?what was their offence to the Jews?

The Gospels were written as an account of the Life of Jesus and His Disciples by various authors at different times, their aim was to pass a concise message about the events which happened, they realy didnt pay attention to the precision of inconsequential things like if Jesus was crucified by 6pm or 3pm or if there was a simon that helped him bear the cross or not, how many thieves mocked him or not, or the timing of the last supper, do these facts change what happened?or the Message of the Gospel?

The Disciples fled fearing for their lives, even Peter denied being a follower of Jesus Christ when some identified him. The fact they fled away doesnt mean they couldnt get a reliable account of all that happened.
You keep trying to hold on to petty things. The quran was written after the death of mohammad from various sources, does it mean their accounts are all wrong even if there were some that did not appear true?

Why do you love lies so much mister?In Mark 9:30-32, Matt 20:17-19 Jesus Christ clearly said he would be killed, besides the verse you even quoted John 8:28 Jesus said "when YOU lift me...", in John 3: 14 He said He would be lifted up just like Moses lifted up the snake im the wilderness. Stop trying to invent a different meaning.

Yes God turned from Jesus when He was on the crucified, it was not the first or only time such happened, God always turn away from the sight of sin, as in Micah 3:4, Ezekiel 39: 23, Deut 31:17-18, and 32:20. But still He did not abandon Him to perish in the grave, as in Psalm 18:10.

Please explain the Prophecy of Isaiah 53 from your quran stories, orelse remain silent!
You are an anti-christ because the Bible says so in 2 Timothy 3:1-13, and 1st John 4:1-15.

These are kind of people that are tarnishing the image of good Nigerians. They travel out to commit crime. This is very bad.

DabELLs:


ahahah!




Christians ignore the historical background of Isaiah 53 to claim that Jesus’ death and resurrection was prophesied, yet Ezekiel and Jeremiah link Isaiah 53 to Israel, the Prophetic books of Hosea and Nahum also link Isaiah 53 to Israel using descriptive parallels. God promises to return the Israelites to Jerusalem and restore the
Temple after the Babylon Captivity (536 B.C.E). Hence, the context of Isaiah 53 refers to the suffering and restoration of Israel, absolutely nothing to do with Jesus.
The actual prophecy begins at Isaiah 52:13:
See, my servant will act wisely; he will be raised and lifted up and highly exalted. (Isaiah 52:13)
Who is the Servant spoken here? The Bible identifies Israel:
"But you, O Israel, my servant, Jacob, whom I have chosen, you descendants of Abraham my friend, (Isaiah 41:
"But now listen , O Jacob, my servant,
Israel , whom I have chosen. (Isaiah 44:1)
For the sake of Jacob my servant, of
Israel my chosen, I summon you by name and bestow on you a title of honor, though you do not acknowledge me. (Isaiah 45:4)
Jesus was not “raised and lifted up”; he was rejected and stoned, by his own people:
He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. He came unto his own, and his own received him not . (John 1:10-11)
From this time many of his disciples turned back and no longer followed him. "You do not want to leave too, do you?" Jesus asked the Twelve. (John 6:66-67)
Jesus rejected praise:
And devils also came out of many, crying out, and saying, Thou art Christ the Son of God. And he rebuking them suffered them not to speak: for they knew that he was Christ. (Luke 4:41)
"I do not accept praise from men, but I know you. I know that you do not have the love of God in your hearts. (John 4:41)
'These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me . They worship me in vain; their teachings are but rules taught by men. (John 15:8-9)
Therefore, the description cannot apply to him, but applies to Israel.

okay the nation of Isreal was made to bear the sins of the world, suffered and put to death, and He also makes intercession for sinners according to you right?lying liar. The Servant according to the Prophecy is Righteous, but sufferred and died for the sins of others. Ezekiel and Jeremiah says the nation of Isreal suffered for their own sins, Hosea and Nahum says same thing, how can they be the same? If Isreal is the Servant being referred to how do you explain verse 8 - 10? when was Isreal cut off from the land of the living? was there ever a time there were no more descendants of Isreal? who are those reffered to as "my people" he bore their transgressions in verse 8? when was Isreal dead and burried in the grave? when did Isreal pour out His Soul to death for the sins of many? keep deceiving yourself because you cant accept the account of Jesus in the quran is falsehood, the Prophecy was fufilled by Jesus Christ, in Him was no sin yet He was put to death and bore the sins of many that believe in Him just like the Prophecy puts it clearly, but for you even if Jesus Christ comes down again and dies on the cross you would still reject Him because you can only love lies.
Jesus Christ was lifted up on the cross just like Moses lifted up the snake in the wilderness, He was despised by His own people and afflicted, the High Priests delivered Him to the gentiles to be tortured thinking He was punished by God, all these happened in fulfilment of the Prophecies. its simple and clear, even the demons acknowledged His Lordship, but men despised Him because they judge Him with their errorneous knowledge of laws, though Isaiah 9:6 calls Him Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace, Counsellor or who is this Son given to us?you

Read this if you can
www.biblestudytools.com/dictionaries/bakers-evangelical-dictionary/servant-of-the-lord.html

The nation of Isreal was actually set up By God Almighty to show His Saving Power, in that when they were faithful and obedient He always saved them from the hands of their oppressors. The Servant of God was also Chosen by God to Show Salvation to all by love and faithfulness, and establishing an eternal Kingdom of Righteousness were He is exalted as the Mighty God, Prince of Peace, Counsellor, King and Saviour. Christianity is simply the fulfilment of the Promise of God.

Only God knows the truth.

DabELLs:


AS I SAID, YOU HAVE COMPREHENSION PROBLEM... READ ISAIAH VERY WELL TO KNOW WHO ISAIAH 53 WAS TALKING ABOUT. DONT JUST JUMP TO ISAIAH 53.



The actual prophecy begins at Isaiah 52:13:
See, my servant will act wisely; he will be raised and lifted up and highly exalted. (Isaiah 52:13)
Who is the Servant spoken here? The Bible identifies Israel:
"But you, O Israel, my servant, Jacob, whom I have chosen, you descendants of Abraham my friend, (Isaiah 41:
"But now listen , O Jacob, my servant,
Israel , whom I have chosen. (Isaiah 44:1)
For the sake of Jacob my servant, of
Israel my chosen, I summon you by name and bestow on you a title of honor, though you do not acknowledge me. (Isaiah 45:4)
Jesus was not “raised and lifted up”; he was rejected and stoned, by his own people:
He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. He came unto his own, and his own received him not . (John 1:10-11)
From this time many of his disciples turned back and no longer followed him. "You do not want to leave too, do you?" Jesus asked the Twelve. (John 6:66-67)
Jesus rejected praise:
And devils also came out of many, crying out, and saying, Thou art Christ the Son of God. And he rebuking them suffered them not to speak: for they knew that he was Christ. (Luke 4:41)
"I do not accept praise from men, but I know you. I know that you do not have the love of God in your hearts. (John 4:41)
'These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me . They worship me in vain; their teachings are but rules taught by men. (John 15:8-9)
Therefore, the description cannot apply to him, but applies to Israel.
Let us continue:
Just as there were many who were appalled at him— his appearance was so disfigured beyond that of any man and his form marred beyond human likeness— (Isaiah 52:14)
This description speaks of Israel’s disfigured face, by affliction and bondage, as the following passages indicate:
All the splendor has departed from the Daughter of Zion. Her princes are like deer that find no pasture; in weakness they have fled before the pursuer. (Lamentations 1:6)
Israel is swallowed up: now shall they be among the Gentiles as a vessel wherein is no pleasure. (Hosea 8:
How the Lord has covered the Daughter of Zion with the cloud of his anger! He has hurled down the splendor of Israel from heaven to earth; he has not remembered his footstool in the day of his anger. Without pity the Lord has swallowed up all the dwellings of Jacob; in his wrath he has torn down the strongholds of the Daughter of Judah. He has brought her kingdom and its princes down to the ground in dishonor. In fierce anger he has cut off every horn of Israel. He has withdrawn his right hand at the approach of the enemy. He has burned in Jacob like a flaming fire that consumes everything around it. (Lamentations 2:1-3)
The splendor of Israel was extinguished; their form was “marred beyond human likeness”, God promised to save the Messiah (Psalms 20:6), so Isaiah 52:14 cannot apply to Jesus, born 600 years later.
The next verse says:
so will he sprinkle many nations, and kings will shut their mouths because of him. For what they were not told,
they will see, and what they have not heard, they will understand. (Isaiah 52:15)
The description refers to Israel:
And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the LORD shall name. (Isaiah 62:2)
According to the days of thy coming out of the land of Egypt will I shew unto him marvellous things. The nations shall see and be confounded at all their might : they shall lay their hand upon their mouth, their ears shall be deaf. (Micah 7:15-16)
And your fame spread among the nations on account of your beauty, because the splendor I had given you made your beauty perfect, declares the Sovereign LORD. (Ezekiel 16:14)
Jesus was only sent to Israel, he did not “sprinkle” any nation except his own:
But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us. But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel. (Matthew 15:23-24)
These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:
But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. (Matthew 10:5-6)
The Greek text of Isaiah 52:15 reads:
Hebrew; Septuagint so will many nations marvel at him [1]
The Gospels record the exact opposite, Jesus was attacked and beaten:
They all condemned him as worthy of death. Then some began to spit at him; they blindfolded him, struck him with their fists, and said, "Prophesy!" And the guards took him and beat him. (Mark 14:64-65)
The men who were guarding Jesus began mocking and beating him. They blindfolded him and demanded, "Prophesy! Who hit you?" (Luke 22:63-64)
Then he released Barabbas to them.
But he had Jesus flogged , and handed him over to be crucified. (Matthew 27:26)
Jesus was not very popular; many Greek and Roman historians do not record his miracles. After the departure of Jesus, his teachings spread to North Africa and Egypt, but he was not popular or widely known.
Philo-Judaeus (Alexandria)
Seneca (Rome)
Plutarch (Greece)
Apollonius (Alexandria)
Epictetus (Turkey)
Silius Italicus (Spain)
Ptolemy (Egypt)
The scholar Muhammad Ataur-Raheem says:
The more people have tried to discover who Jesus really was the more it has been found how little is known about him. There are limited records of his teachings and some of his actions, but very little is known about how he actually lived his life from moment to moment and how he conducted his everyday transactions with other people.
Certainly, the pictures many people have given of Jesus - of who he was and what he did - are distorted ones. Although there is some truth in them, it has been established that the four accepted Gospels have not only been altered and censored through the ages but also are not eyewitness accounts. (Jesus Prophet of Islam, p. 5)
The next verse says:
Who has believed our message and to whom has the arm of the LORD been revealed? (Isaiah 53:1)
The “arm of the Lord” is the redemption of Israel, and has nothing to do with Jesus.
With your mighty arm you redeemed your people, the descendants of Jacob and Joseph. Selah (Psalms 77:15)
Burst into songs of joy together, you ruins of Jerusalem, for the LORD has comforted his people, he has redeemed Jerusalem. The LORD will lay bare his holy arm in the sight of all the nations, and all the ends of the earth will see the salvation of our God. (Isaiah 52:9-10)
Then his people recalled the days of old, the days of Moses and his people— where is he who brought them through the sea, with the shepherd of his flock? Where is he who set his Holy Spirit among them, who sent his glorious arm of power to be at Moses' right hand, who divided the waters before them, to gain for himself everlasting renown, (Isaiah 63:11-12)

mr man your problem is you love lies more than oxygen, just like you keep misinterpreting the hadith on the suns rotation round the earth delibrately which says the sun travels continuosly, from one place to another, setting here and rising there; you still refuse to accept the fact that not only the Nation of Isreal is referred to as the servant, but also the Promised Messiah, which is clear from Isaiah 42, 49 verse 1-6, 53:8-10, as well as 9:6-7, though you have perfect comprehension but cant see the verses clearly identify three "People": God, Isreal, and the Servant that brings Isreal back to God, oga linus...Keep trying to deny history, even non religious historians wrote about the crucificion of Jesus Christ but you prefer lies, suit yourself.

This is not good for Nigeria's image.

DabELLs:


YOU MAKE ME LAUGH WHEN YOU SAY I KEEP MISINTERPRETING HADITH. SO YOU KNOW HADITH MORE THAN I DO, ABI?? AND FOR YOUR INFORMATION QURAN AND HADITH RETAIN THIER ORIGINAL FORM. UNLIKE YOUR BIBLE THAT YOU CUT SOME PARTS AWAY CALLING THEM OLD TESTAMENT AS IF YOUR god MADE MISTAKES AND YOU ARE CORRECTING IT. ALSO, WE HAVE ONLY ONE QURAN AND THE HADITHS IN THEIR ORIGINAL FORM UNLIKE BIBLE WITH MORE THAN 300 VERSIONS.

Understanding simple english language is not about comparing quran and hadiths, the new testament is the fufilment of the old testament promises to mankind, not mistake and correction like in your quran in surah 2: 106 which shows your quran is invented by a man. the sana'a version is older and different from the standard quran version, besides this standard version is only popular because caliph usman put it together and destroyed other existing contrasting versions so stop claiming perfection.
You say Jesus wasnt popular, agreed, He preached for a short period in Isreal only, yet different historians far and wide documented the crucifion of Jesus as an actual event, and also the persecution of the early Christians for their Faith which lasted for almost 300 years till Christianity became the adopted religion of the Roman Empire, and you still say it was invented by same pagans who persecuted the Christians for 300 years, or Paul, and perhaps other devoted jews who persecuted the disciples of Jesus for being Christians decided to abandon Judaism which they were so devoted to and invent their own religion, based on the very Jesus who they persecuted His disciples, how your story makes sense to you baffles me. Are you aware there are Jewish writers who documented these events?

If I ask you to check on pagan roots of Islam now you would start another war. But help me understand this, how does your god say no compulsion in religion, and at same time the reward for apostacy in Islam is death by decapitation? How do they both exist at same time? if there is no compusion then people should be free to practice what they believe in and not persecuted for their belief.