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Re: Christian Students Should Snub Arabic Classes - Adeboye, Oyedepo, Kumuyi, Others by Nobody: 11:12pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
Kdon2: Why don't you counter my arguments with a superior comment rather than being emotional with your response? 1 Like |
Re: Christian Students Should Snub Arabic Classes - Adeboye, Oyedepo, Kumuyi, Others by jomoh: 11:12pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
Badbae: Haba but you're educated now. A school being funded by the government with tax payers money. You still call that a Christian school? You should say the truth. 1 Like |
Re: Christian Students Should Snub Arabic Classes - Adeboye, Oyedepo, Kumuyi, Others by imam07: 11:14pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
factwriter:Mr know all. The internet man.why not enlighten us here on languages that u read and write from left to right. I think that will be better than attacking me without giving a true evidence. So my write up pain you. It must because this is the bitter truth. How will u expect our kids that are used to reading and writing from the left hand side to right hand side to cope with ur abnormal pattern of writing. I can't imagine my child reading and writing from opposite direction. Not possible. It is until Muslims follow the proper normal pattern of life B4 they can be a religion of peace. U are allow to quote me again. |
Re: Christian Students Should Snub Arabic Classes - Adeboye, Oyedepo, Kumuyi, Others by luluman: 11:14pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
ollah1:Then look for a politician & retaliate not our clergies.If you like come & bomb me. |
Re: Christian Students Should Snub Arabic Classes - Adeboye, Oyedepo, Kumuyi, Others by Sleezwizz: 11:14pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
imam07: Why stretch your neck for matter wey no concern u before. U this religion bigot. Abi o fe norun GBA obe ni? 1 Like |
Re: Christian Students Should Snub Arabic Classes - Adeboye, Oyedepo, Kumuyi, Others by Kdon2: 11:16pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
obailala: The issue here is no christian must be compelled to study arabic under any guise. Except of course christians curious enough to want to ascertain the rumour that mohammed deflowered nine year old. What will muslims say if muslims were forced to take hebrew? |
Re: Christian Students Should Snub Arabic Classes - Adeboye, Oyedepo, Kumuyi, Others by Nobody: 11:18pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
luluman: What different between clergies and politicians? Are they not all thieves and liars? 1 Like |
Re: Christian Students Should Snub Arabic Classes - Adeboye, Oyedepo, Kumuyi, Others by jomoh: 11:19pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
luluman: If i have the opportunity to stand before anyone of them, I will say it to their face. They are barking. Go and read your history before supporting these old self serving criminals. There are no difference between them and Nigerian Politicians. The little you know the better for them to be able to maintain their control over you. They know the truth, they know the history, they were taught Nigerian History when they were young and they know that you don't know it because you were not taught. In fact some of them were not only taught the history, they lived the history. 1 Like |
Re: Christian Students Should Snub Arabic Classes - Adeboye, Oyedepo, Kumuyi, Others by Kdon2: 11:23pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
factwriter: Just as your imams are brains behind the bloodshed in the northeast brain washing you all with ridiculous fake stories of 70 virgins as reward for murder and destruction of God's handiwork. Mitchew! |
Re: Christian Students Should Snub Arabic Classes - Adeboye, Oyedepo, Kumuyi, Others by imam07: 11:24pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
jomoh:Good 4 using the word IF, because u can never have the opportunity. It is only here u can run your mouth like a rabid dog. |
Re: Christian Students Should Snub Arabic Classes - Adeboye, Oyedepo, Kumuyi, Others by Kdon2: 11:25pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
factwriter: Just as your imams are brains behind the bloodshed in the northeast brain washing you all with ridiculous fake stories of 70 virgins as reward for murder and destruction of God's handiwork. Mitchew! Islam was imposed on you too,its not your original religion abeg! |
Re: Christian Students Should Snub Arabic Classes - Adeboye, Oyedepo, Kumuyi, Others by Kdon2: 11:28pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
Badonasty: Make them carry arabic go their arabic school na! Anyone intrested will go and learn it there abeg no need forcing anyone. |
Re: Christian Students Should Snub Arabic Classes - Adeboye, Oyedepo, Kumuyi, Others by Kdon2: 11:31pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
jomoh: e dey pain you abi? Go and take pain killer. We no want arabic simple! Na by force?! |
Re: Christian Students Should Snub Arabic Classes - Adeboye, Oyedepo, Kumuyi, Others by Ayoguy(m): 11:34pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
jomoh:are you speaking for the north or Nigeria as a whole??.. we all know Arabic and islam is like 5 and 6 so it's easy to know wat the FG is up to. its better to remove both than to stylishly leave one under the pretence of "Arabic". |
Re: Christian Students Should Snub Arabic Classes - Adeboye, Oyedepo, Kumuyi, Others by obailala(m): 11:34pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
Kdon2:The real issue is, which Christian is being forced to study arabic?... Who is being forced?the curriculum clearly states that it is an optional course so cant you see this has all just been deliberate fear mongering by desperate politicians spreading falsehood?.... IRK has been in Nigerias curriculum since forever, were you or anyone you know forced to offer IRK?... The arabic is an optional course which of course would mainly be offered by folks up north who prefer it to french. So cant you see there's been a deliberate campaign of falsehood peddled by political desperadoes claiming that the arabic is a compulsory subject? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Christian Students Should Snub Arabic Classes - Adeboye, Oyedepo, Kumuyi, Others by luluman: 11:34pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
jomoh:Unlike your religion, our God says he can handle any offenders of the faith, not for us to fight for him. |
Re: Christian Students Should Snub Arabic Classes - Adeboye, Oyedepo, Kumuyi, Others by imam07: 11:35pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
Thank God Bishop Oyedepo and some of these men of God are from Muslim background so non of u Muslims here can't say u know better than them. They were there before u and later see the light and the truth. You are still in the darkest darkness. How will u know what is right and wrong. You are all yet to get a walking stick talkless of knowing the right part. 1 Like |
Re: Christian Students Should Snub Arabic Classes - Adeboye, Oyedepo, Kumuyi, Others by shollyBi(m): 11:35pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
Sas4lyf: Shut up ur brain u baboon brained |
Re: Christian Students Should Snub Arabic Classes - Adeboye, Oyedepo, Kumuyi, Others by panpan(m): 11:35pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
The government (both federal and state) should do away with making subjects compulsory as much as possible. Let the students and their schools be able to choose their subjects. Compulsory subjects in secondary schools should be reduced to just English Language, Mathematics and one science subject. |
Re: Christian Students Should Snub Arabic Classes - Adeboye, Oyedepo, Kumuyi, Others by Kdon2: 11:36pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
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Re: Christian Students Should Snub Arabic Classes - Adeboye, Oyedepo, Kumuyi, Others by luluman: 11:37pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
ollah1:If the one in your mosque lied to you go & bomb him now.Leave Naira land alone. |
Re: Christian Students Should Snub Arabic Classes - Adeboye, Oyedepo, Kumuyi, Others by sshalom(m): 11:37pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
thesicilian: CAN and PFN are already working on your observation but the lethargy of the FGN probably led to the new development. 1 Like |
Re: Christian Students Should Snub Arabic Classes - Adeboye, Oyedepo, Kumuyi, Others by Nobody: 11:38pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
luluman: Aren't clergies thieves and liars? Quit being emotional 1 Like |
Re: Christian Students Should Snub Arabic Classes - Adeboye, Oyedepo, Kumuyi, Others by adekzy: 11:40pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
Chai... So much ignorance, hatred and stupidity display by many uncouth children all because of a language and majority of them are not even affected directly. Advantages of learning Arabic,: (Answers from Quora.com.) I’ve been able to read poetry from the sixth century, and, more practically, signs on buses so I know where they’re going. And by speaking even bad Arabic, I’ve been able to make connections with people across the Arab world and get a better impression of them and the countries they live in. Speaking Arabic has gotten me discounts when shopping. It has gotten me invitations to share picnic lunches and invitations to people’s homes. Once, it even got me a much-needed ride out of a tiny Spanish village first thing in the morning, when the only person awake was a Moroccan street sweeper. Speaking Arabic has gotten me amazing stories. It has gotten me so many ridiculous unearned compliments (Egyptians especially are some of the most encouraging people to language students). And it has gotten me friends for life. Is it worth it to learn Arabic? AnswerRequest Follow10 8 ANSWERS Lara Novakov Lara Novakov, Studying the Middle East. Answered Jan 10 Absolutely fucking yes. Now, it depends on your goals. Do you want to learn it just out of interest for the language itself and languages in general? By that I mean that you would learn the language and how to speak it but would more focus on the features it posseses and how it developed. Do you want to learn it so you can communicate with Arabic speakers and read the Quran? Hadiths? Arabic is not an easy language to learn and it takes a lot of motivation, dedication and time. If you don’t have any of that (and it is extremely important) learning Arabic will be hard and boring instead of what it should be. Speaking from a “is it worth” side, it is. More than 400 million people speak Arabic and there are many L2 speakers of it. Arabic is a liturgical language of 1,6 billion Muslims. Though here is the tricky part - Arabic has a lot of dialects, some of them being unintelligible for speakers of other dialects (e.g an Egyptian and a Moroccan or a Jordanian and an Algerian). The NA variants (Algerian, Moroccan, Libyan, Tunisian) are quite hard for speakers of other dialects to understand them. So besides learning the formal language (MSA - Modern Standard Arabic) you would have to pick up a dialect later (MSA is used on the TV, news, essays, magazines, official documents etc) and you would have to choose a dialect among the many that exist. Generally, your best bet would be to go with the Egyptian one (since it is widely understood) or the Levantine ones (Lebanese, Jordanian, Palestinian, Syrian). Yes, Arabic is worth learning in any case. It depends just on how motivated you are, your dedication and the time you can separate for it. 1.4k Views · 27 Upvotes Upvote27 Share Oussama Ouadani1 comment from Oussama Ouadani Zora O'Neill Zora O'Neill, Author of "All Strangers Are Kin: Adventures in Arabic and the Arab World" Answered Mar 17 It’s a ton of work (I’ve been chipping away at it for, oh, 25 years), but the payoff is great. I’ve been able to read poetry from the sixth century, and, more practically, signs on buses so I know where they’re going. And by speaking even bad Arabic, I’ve been able to make connections with people across the Arab world and get a better impression of them and the countries they live in. Speaking Arabic has gotten me discounts when shopping. It has gotten me invitations to share picnic lunches and invitations to people’s homes. Once, it even got me a much-needed ride out of a tiny Spanish village first thing in the morning, when the only person awake was a Moroccan street sweeper. Speaking Arabic has gotten me amazing stories. It has gotten me so many ridiculous unearned compliments (Egyptians especially are some of the most encouraging people to language students). And it has gotten me friends for life. If you do jump in to it, I highly recommend picking a dialect to work on right away, alongside the written form. (I studied mostly the written form for a long time, and it messed me up—it made me very tongue-tied. That’s why the 25 years… Teachers are much better now, at least in the US, about teaching dialects as well.) 466 Views · 6 Upvotes Upvoted7 Share Adekoya O'Kazeem AdewaleComment... RecommendedAll Khalid Zaki Khalid Zaki, Student of IslamicSciences University of Qassim however londoner born and raised Answered Jan 23, 2016 I would say it is definitely dependant on why you want to learn the language in the first place, if you want to learn it for the sake of tourism, or to visit an Arab country and experience different cultures then your study of the Arabic will not be a painstaking one, however if you wish to understand the true essence of the Arabic language, it's history, it's gestation, it's rise to the zenith of academia, and it's slow decline from a scholarly perspective then it will definitely have to be studied from an Islamic approach. What you will find on this site is many people speaking to you about Arabic from a non scholarly angle, you will find people who will tell you to learn the language because they are born 'Arabs' who want you to come to their country and eat the food that they eat, or to take a ride on some camels in return for the much needed dollar or something of that sort. What you will seldom find from those very people, is a true appreciation of the language and how it came to be the only living semitic language which continues to thrive unlike many semitic languages which were deemed dead for over a vast time in history. So what exactly made the Arabic language what became? The Arabic language originated in southern Arabia in what was known and is still known as Yemen, the Yemenites spoke and formed the very foundation of the current language which is spoken today, as time passed, the Language encompassed the entire Arabian Peninsula. As these groups of people formed, like in any other human habitat, tribes were formed based on lineage and location, as these tribes all spoke one language there was a somewhat uniform way of speaking coupled with dialects used by each tribe when speaking amongst themselves. The Arabs by this time had started to write poetry, different topics, and different types, known as (النثر) Nathr and (القصيدة) Al Qaseedah. Some of the most prominent poems would be hung off walls and the most prominent of those were the 7 poems hung on the walls of the K'aba in Makkah known as (Al Mu'Allaqaatus Sab'ah) the Seven Pasted Poems. This bring us into the political and economic situation of the Arabs and their tongue during that particular time. We are now entering the Pre Islamic faze of the Arabic language, it is no longer a language which is simple in vocabulary or weak in its grammatical structure, the Arabic language has entered into a phase just shy of being interred into the select few languages which can be considered great in the history of the world, such as Amharic, Roman, Greek, Sanskrit amongst many others, the Arabs find themselves in a arid harsh land wedged between the Romans to the north, the Ethiopians to west and the Persians to the east. At this time, there a words which are slowly entering the Arabic language through trade and assimilation. Like previously mentioned the Arabs are currently speaking the language in the purest form ever known, of course, loanwords find itself into the language through trade and travel, however the language at this point is Regarded amongst scholars of the Arabic Language as the purest form the language had ever witnessed. Once at the peak, the only way is down, and it is well regarded in the Arab world that had this event not taken place, the Arabic language would have found itself in the graveyard with other dead Semitic languages, however something happens which changes the trajectory of the Arabic Language, and that is the Qur'an. I do not want to get into the whole topic but it is needless to say that every breathing piece of Arabic literature can be traced back to the Qur'an in some way shape or form. The Qur'an was the very first piece of Arabic written and documented into book form and produced on a mass scale, the language structure used in it, the phrases, the vocabulary and the rhetoric found within makes it the single most important documented piece of writing to land between the two hands of anyone wanting to embark on learning Arabic. From the moment of it first being recited by the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him, the Arabic language becomes a source of literature and from it, the deluge of Arabic writings we have witnessed for the past 1400 years, but that still does not answer a few valuable questions. Even at this time the language has not been codified manually ready to be taught to fresh converts of the new faith, it has not been given Technical Definitions to differentiate particle from verb, or noun or verb etc....however it is quite late and the list goes on. What i would say, is that is after the Qur'an is revealed a new wave of budding scholars and students seeking to understand the religion study the language and disciplines begin to form such as Nahw, (Grammar) however the early muslims would call it Al I'raab Al Binna, also Sarf (Morphology), coupled with the study of the Qur'an Tafseer and the science of the Prophetic Narration Ilmul Hadeeth the Arabic language enters a stage it has never known, because of the large expansion of Islam into North Africa, Egypt, And the East, many words begin to find itself into the language not previously seen on such a scale, causing many scholars to go into the Deserts of Arabia and live with the Bedouins, writing down every pure word of Arabic they know in order to preserve it at least for Academia, which benefitted us today, it is probably worth mentioning many of the greatest Scholars of this era were not Arab but had a pure love for the language because of the Qur'an, making the set out on sometimes very hostile and dangerous quests for knowledge. You should definitely read the Qur'an after learning Arabic, you will be amazed with what you see, and we are forever indebted to what those early generations did for us in the path of truth and enlightenment. 1.5k Views · 12 Upvotes Upvote12 Share Adekoya O'Kazeem AdewaleComment... RecommendedAll Mohammad Ali Mohammad Ali, Arabic = Best language, due to reading Quran/Dua & other Arab countries... Answered Feb 13, 2016 Surely. Of course the answer can be relevant to you targets of learning ... For instance, totally there can be three main Arabic ... 1: Quranic 2: Fusha (eloquent or formal) (which usually is used in formal parts ... and news ... 3: Informal ... which is so different in diverse Arab countries which they speak daily with each other informally ... Firstly the Quranic is the best due to being related to Allah and ... Secondly: I assume learning formal Arabic would be more beneficent for you to be able to watch news, Fusha films, and having more vast conversation ... Concerning the importance of Arabic language: How much is it necessary for Muslims to learn Arabic? Islam, the Qur'an and the Arabic Literature Elementary Arabic Morphology 1 yes it is .for the following 1-Arabic is one the two surviving languages coming from semetic languages .one of the anciant languages .wich means that you will make it easy for you to learn about ancient civilisations in the middle east especially those related to ancient languages of the ancient world 2-arabic is a super rich language.it has lots of words and expressions 3-arabic speaking people are around 400 ml=illions .you can comunicate with all of those 4-arabic is the language of quraan which is the holy book of islam .it helps to understand islam and muslims better 5-arabic effected many languages like persian turkish spanish and less english and french .it would make it easier to learn one of these languages later 6-hebrew is sister language of arabic. if you learn arabic hebrew would be easier Arabic is the 5th most commonly spoken native language in the word and it's the official language of over 20 countries and there are well over 300 million native speakers of the language. 3 Likes |
Re: Christian Students Should Snub Arabic Classes - Adeboye, Oyedepo, Kumuyi, Others by Kdon2: 11:42pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
jomoh: You mean plus the imams and sheikhs abi? All of them including the ones you raptly listen to when they preach their false doctrines to brain wash you. |
Re: Christian Students Should Snub Arabic Classes - Adeboye, Oyedepo, Kumuyi, Others by jomoh: 11:43pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
Ayoguy: Hebrew too is for Christian then Osinbajo a high ranking Redeem pastor should use is influence as the most powerful man in the country to include it there rather than barking in the media. You talk about FG. Which FG the one of Osinbajo that is there or the one of Jonathan that started everything. You people are pathetic and hypocrites. Jonathan govt a Christian inserted it, Osinbajo govt a Christian pastor is there yet you keep barking in the media that Muslims did this Muslims did that. Does that make sense. 2 Likes |
Re: Christian Students Should Snub Arabic Classes - Adeboye, Oyedepo, Kumuyi, Others by jomoh: 11:44pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
luluman: What is the correlation? You people are just shameless hypocrites. Jonathan govt a Christian inserted it, Osinbajo govt a Christian pastor is there yet you keep barking in the media that Muslims did this Muslims did that. Does that make sense? 2 Likes |
Re: Christian Students Should Snub Arabic Classes - Adeboye, Oyedepo, Kumuyi, Others by imam07: 11:45pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
Government never implement Arabic sef see as terrorist plenty. What will happen if they finished implemented it. |
Re: Christian Students Should Snub Arabic Classes - Adeboye, Oyedepo, Kumuyi, Others by jomoh: 11:46pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
imam07: I don't even pray to come to face with hypocrites and devil incarnates. 1 Like |
Re: Christian Students Should Snub Arabic Classes - Adeboye, Oyedepo, Kumuyi, Others by factwriter(m): 11:46pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
imam07: YOU STILL THINK ITS ABSURD FOR MUSLIMS TO COMMENCE THINGS IN ANTI CLOCKWISE DIRECTION (STARTING FROM RIGHT to LEFT) ![]() ... then read this: It never occurred to many as to why the TAWAAF (moving around the KAABA, holy mosque in Mekka) is “Anti clockwise” RIGHT to LEFT? Modern Science has proved many things that confirm the importance of TAWAAF around the KAABA in “Anti clockwise.” BIOLOGICAL BACKINGS The Blood inside the human body begins its circulation “Anti clockwise” (Right to left) ATOMICAL BACKINGS The electrons of an atom revolve around its nucleus in the same manner as making Tawaaf, in an anti clockwise direction (right to left). ASTRONOMICAL BACKINGS Considering the globe as a whole, you will notice... that the moon revolves around the earth anti clockwise.(right to left) The earth rotates around its own axis in an anti clockwise direction.(right to left) the earth revolves around the sun in an anti clockwise direction. (right to left) The planets of the Solar system revolve around the sun in an anti clockwise direction. (right to left) The Sun along with its whole Solar system orbit in the galaxy in an anti clockwise direction. (right to left) All the galaxies orbit in the space in an anti clockwise direction. (right to left) In other words, when Muslims revolve around the KAABA they are orbiting in the same direction as the whole universe. worshipping God in one direction. praising God in one direction. And all the creations of God from the tiniest particles, to the largest galaxies, along with the human race unite in praise of God, (Right to left). When Muslims tour around the KAABA, they are travelling in the land travelled by all the Prophets of God from the Prophet Adam to the Prophet MOHAMMAD (ASW) Now tell me that it is coincidence that all these biological, atomical and astronomical entities commences their various motions from RIGHT to LEFT. Now do you still consider writing from RIGHT direction to LEFT absurd ![]() Seem you suddenly lost your voice. please forward this to your Men of god, maybe it will help reset their illusions about the religion of Islam. Modified: May Allah continue to bless the Muslims and Muslimats who tirelessly research and put together inspirational discoveries like this piece I "copied and pasted" above. 4 Likes |
Re: Christian Students Should Snub Arabic Classes - Adeboye, Oyedepo, Kumuyi, Others by jomoh: 11:47pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
Kdon2: Pain me kwa? look in the mirror it's your people that is ranting everyday over nothing. 2 Likes |
Re: Christian Students Should Snub Arabic Classes - Adeboye, Oyedepo, Kumuyi, Others by jomoh: 11:48pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
Kdon2: What is this one saying? 1 Like |
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