chkil0:


more pics

jln115:

Still much prefer the 7.62mm, we should have never gotten rid of the R1s.

Just to put into perspective a 5.56mm is a .22 caliber. You buy a .22 for your little one to get them used to shooting a firearm and for them to hunt little birdies, squirrels and bunnies.

A 7.62mm / .308 on the other hand can take down anything up to and including an elephant ( if the law allowed it).

bidexiii:



"GBESE"

abeg which kind wind b dis.....

patches689:


Benefits of the 5.56 NATO claimed over the 7.62 NATO include equal lethality, half the mass and volume, reduced recoil and signature, better penetration of metal plates, flatter trajectory and shorter time of flight out to 700 meters, weapons chambered for it are lighter and better hit probability. Hit probability refers to the ability of a soldier to concentrate on firing in spite of their weapon's recoil and noise, which is noticeably different between the two cartridges. The 7.62 NATO has twice the impact energy of the 5.56 NATO, preferable if a target is protected by higher level armor, especially at "medium" range. If not, both rounds normally penetrate satisfactorily through enemies up to 600 meters, approximately. A 5.56 NATO round fired from a 20 in (510 mm) barrel has a flatter trajectory than a 7.62 NATO round fired from a barrel of equal length, while the 5.56 NATO fired from a 14.5 in (370 mm) barrel has the same trajectory as the 7.62 NATO from a 20 in barrel, as well as the same time of flight. A 7.62 NATO round reaches 50 percent of its velocity within 80 mm (3.1 in) of the barrel when fired, so decreasing the barrel length for close quarters combat results in increased muzzle pressure and greater noise and muzzle flash.[37][45]

World record Grizzly bear was taken down with .22... Bear > Human
https://www.ammoland.com/2014/11/what-22-rifle-did-bella-twin-use-to-kill-a-world-record-grizzly-in-1953/#axzz4lrcZv7Sb

tdayof:
I see something coming

Henry240:
The decline of South Africa’s defence industry

[The biggest loser in this regard is the SA Army with most of its prime mission equipment “becoming obsolescent or even obsolete and key capability gaps emerging just as it is set to face more challenging tasks”. A lack of close-in anti-tank bunker weapons, air defence systems, air transportable combat and logistic vehicles and logistic vehicles to support mechanised forces are given as example of what the landward force needs.

The SA Air Force (SAAF) lacks a full range of precision weapons for fighters and combat helicopters, has no “serious maritime operations capability” as well as no airlift to support regional missions such as the African Standby Force (ASF) and the African Capability for Immediate Response to Crises (ACIRC).

The maritime service of the SANDF lacks adequate numbers of ships to meet current and envisioned regional commitment and lacks sealift to support regional missions according to the document.[/b]

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=48438:the-decline-of-south-africas-defence-industry&catid=7:Industry&Itemid=116

Henry240:
The decline of South Africa’s defence industry

The biggest loser in this regard is the SA Army with most of its prime mission equipment “becoming obsolescent or even obsolete and key capability gaps emerging just as it is set to face more challenging tasks”. A lack of close-in anti-tank bunker weapons, air defence systems, air transportable combat and logistic vehicles and logistic vehicles to support mechanised forces are given as example of what the landward force needs.

The SA Air Force (SAAF) lacks a full range of precision weapons for fighters and combat helicopters, has no “serious maritime operations capability” as well as no airlift to support regional missions such as the African Standby Force (ASF) and the African Capability for Immediate Response to Crises (ACIRC).

The maritime service of the SANDF lacks adequate numbers of ships to meet current and envisioned regional commitment and lacks sealift to support regional missions according to the document.

patches689:


lol

Henry120 no doubt took great glee at posting this.... clearly the irony of such is lost on him.

Standards, afterall, are subjective. What we find "sub-standard" others find to be "beyond their wildest dreams"

LTGEN:

Why are you being coy, please elaborate.

Henry240:
NAF ‘WINGS’ ADDITIONAL COMBAT PILOTS

In furtherance of the human capacity building initiative of the present leadership of the Nigerian Air Force (NAF), two combat pilots were ‘winged’ today, 4 July 2017 after successfully completing an 18-month Specialized Undergraduate Pilot Training at Laughlin Air Force Base, Texas in the United States of America. The two newly ‘winged’ pilots, both of the rank of Flying Officer, went through the primary and fighter jet training during which they amassed over 100 flying hours each on the T-6 Texan ii and T-38 Talon aircraft types. The 2 officers had earlier undergone an introductory flying training at the US Aviation Academy in Denton, where they flew the Cessna 172 aircraft. They will now be deployed to NAF combat units for tactical training on fighter jets.

In his remarks during the winging ceremony, the Chief of the Air Staff (CAS), Air Marshal Sadique Abubakar reiterated that the NAF would not relent in its efforts at human capacity building, noting that the Service cannot function optimally without appropriate personnel training. The CAS further stated that the NAF was already reaping from its huge investment in human capacity building, as reflected in the several NAF aircraft that had been successfully reactivated, with attendant effect on operational efficiency. According to the CAS, “only the right training can enable personnel deal with the complex security challenges facing the country. We will therefore continue to build human capacity while also ensuring that our humanitarian intervention schemes are going on”. Air Marshal Abubakar congratulated the new pilots and urged them to quickly settle down and join the rest of their colleagues in defending the territorial integrity of the nation. Earlier in his remarks, the Chief of Training and Operations, who represented by the Director of Training (DOT), Air Vice Marshal Muhammed Idris, thanked the CAS for availing the pilots the opportunity to be trained at the prestigious Laughlin Air Force Base, remarking that the training comes with special laurel because of the uniqueness of the school.

It would be recalled that only less than 3 weeks ago, the NAF ‘winged’ 10 officers who had just completed their one-year pilot training program. Many more NAF pilots and members of the ground crew were reported to be undergoing training at local and overseas training institutions.

DOPRI

jakeporeshenko:

What an epic journey, from first solo on the T-6 to the T-38 and then winging. Almost a year and half of rigorous training and suddenly you're a newborn fighter pilot.

Henry240:


Well, i did not.

I found it to be quite sad.

tdayof:


It's happening again and again.. Operation Nairaland storm: when patches will come after Henry.

I love Jln's response. He responded with a nice write-up and even if there's going to be an argument, it's going to an an intelligent one.

Now look at patches, his love affair with Henry is about to start again. Anyway, I'm watching in 7D

tdayof:


It's happening again and again.. Operation Nairaland storm: when patches will come after Henry.

I love Jln's response. He responded with a nice write-up and even if there's going to be an argument, it's going to an an intelligent one.

Now look at patches, his love affair with Henry is about to start again. Anyway, I'm watching in 7D

jln115:

Only a year and a half to become a fighter pilot??

jln115:

Only a year and a half to become a fighter pilot??

jakeporeshenko:

What an epic journey, from first solo on the T-6 to the T-38 and then winging. Almost a year and half of rigorous training and suddenly you're a newborn fighter pilot.

Henry240:


A few weeks ago, Chikl0 made comments which were very poor-informed , and showed that he lacked the knowledge of the actual state of things in the South-African Air Force and the SANDF in general.

However, i cannot blame him as he is North-African, as such would not be very conversant with other parts of Africa.

Then, we are all here to learn.

There would be no argument.

Henry240:


"They will now be deployed to NAF combat units for tactical training on fighter jets."

jln115:

Ah ok.....on the alpha or L39s

tdayof:

I love Jln's response. He responded with a nice write-up and even if there's going to be an argument, it's going to an an intelligent one.

Henry240:
The decline of South Africa’s defence industry

The biggest loser in this regard is the SA Army with most of its prime mission equipment “becoming obsolescent or even obsolete and key capability gaps emerging just as it is set to face more challenging tasks”. A lack of close-in anti-tank bunker weapons, air defence systems, air transportable combat and logistic vehicles and logistic vehicles to support mechanised forces are given as example of what the landward force needs.

Henry240:

The SA Air Force (SAAF) lacks a full range of precision weapons for fighters and combat helicopters,

Henry240:

has no “serious maritime operations capability”

Henry240:

as well as no airlift to support regional missions such as the African Standby Force (ASF) and the African Capability for Immediate Response to Crises (ACIRC).

Henry240:

The maritime service of the SANDF lacks adequate numbers of ships to meet current and envisioned regional commitment and lacks sealift to support regional missions according to the document.[/b]

Henry240:


A few weeks ago, Chikl0 made comments which were very poor-informed, and showed that he lacked the knowledge of the actual state of things in the South-African Air Force and the SANDF in general.

However, i cannot blame him as he is North-African, as such would not be very conversant with other parts of Africa.

Then, we are all here to learn.

There would be no argument.

patches689:


Sad?

How can you be sad for your betters?

MikeCZA:
It's an accepted fact that the SA defence industry which was protected by sanctions or the arms embargo and over charging the SADF will decline as many things can be sourced internationally cheaper instead of wasting funds in R & D or industrial espionage

But strategic capabilities like systems integration, electronic warfare, ammunition e.g AAMs, cruise missiles, PGMs etc, adapting equipment, C2, maintenance etc will or still maintained.

These things offer an edge over any African country or any potential foe within SADC and it's boarders.


Interestingly I wonder if we are gonna be paranoid like in the late 90s when one of our neighbours acquired some light tanks. When that neighbour acquires new front line fighters. Are we gonna feel like we need to balance or regain an edge?

picture related..