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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by gottfried21(m): 11:37am On Jul 04, 2017 |
chkil0:Painful to look at these pictures man. 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 12:11pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
the 6th algerian Kilo 636M built in russia (delivry 2018) 1 Like
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Godbest(m): 12:45pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
Nigerian Army is working for Nigerians. What you are seeing the Nigerian army doing is the Army day celebration 2017 with a kick off of sanitation activities which include clearing of drainages, medical outreach and other humanitarian activities. This is the true nature and face of the Nigerian Army contributing to the development and well being of the citizens. You can reach us for complains, advise, Human right abuses or reporting of security matters through our call centre number 193 from any Network. 2 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 1:02pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
jln115: Benefits of the 5.56 NATO claimed over the 7.62 NATO include equal lethality, half the mass and volume, reduced recoil and signature, better penetration of metal plates, flatter trajectory and shorter time of flight out to 700 meters, weapons chambered for it are lighter and better hit probability. Hit probability refers to the ability of a soldier to concentrate on firing in spite of their weapon's recoil and noise, which is noticeably different between the two cartridges. The 7.62 NATO has twice the impact energy of the 5.56 NATO, preferable if a target is protected by higher level armor, especially at "medium" range. If not, both rounds normally penetrate satisfactorily through enemies up to 600 meters, approximately. A 5.56 NATO round fired from a 20 in (510 mm) barrel has a flatter trajectory than a 7.62 NATO round fired from a barrel of equal length, while the 5.56 NATO fired from a 14.5 in (370 mm) barrel has the same trajectory as the 7.62 NATO from a 20 in barrel, as well as the same time of flight. A 7.62 NATO round reaches 50 percent of its velocity within 80 mm (3.1 in) of the barrel when fired, so decreasing the barrel length for close quarters combat results in increased muzzle pressure and greater noise and muzzle flash.[37][45] World record Grizzly bear was taken down with .22... Bear > Human https://www.ammoland.com/2014/11/what-22-rifle-did-bella-twin-use-to-kill-a-world-record-grizzly-in-1953/#axzz4lrcZv7Sb |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 1:44pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
The decline of South Africa’s defence industry The biggest loser in this regard is the SA Army with most of its prime mission equipment “becoming obsolescent or even obsolete and key capability gaps emerging just as it is set to face more challenging tasks”. A lack of close-in anti-tank bunker weapons, air defence systems, air transportable combat and logistic vehicles and logistic vehicles to support mechanised forces are given as example of what the landward force needs. The SA Air Force (SAAF) lacks a full range of precision weapons for fighters and combat helicopters, has no “serious maritime operations capability” as well as no airlift to support regional missions such as the African Standby Force (ASF) and the African Capability for Immediate Response to Crises (ACIRC). The maritime service of the SANDF lacks adequate numbers of ships to meet current and envisioned regional commitment and lacks sealift to support regional missions according to the document.
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 1:45pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
The decline of South Africa’s defence industry The biggest loser in this regard is the SA Army with most of its prime mission equipment “becoming obsolescent or even obsolete and key capability gaps emerging just as it is set to face more challenging tasks”. A lack of close-in anti-tank bunker weapons, air defence systems, air transportable combat and logistic vehicles and logistic vehicles to support mechanised forces are given as example of what the landward force needs. The SA Air Force (SAAF) lacks a full range of precision weapons for fighters and combat helicopters, has no “serious maritime operations capability” as well as no airlift to support regional missions such as the African Standby Force (ASF) and the African Capability for Immediate Response to Crises (ACIRC). The maritime service of the SANDF lacks adequate numbers of ships to meet current and envisioned regional commitment and lacks sealift to support regional missions according to the document. http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=48438:the-decline-of-south-africas-defence-industry&catid=7:Industry&Itemid=116
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by iblawi(m): 1:52pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 1:56pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
NAF ‘WINGS’ ADDITIONAL COMBAT PILOTS In furtherance of the human capacity building initiative of the present leadership of the Nigerian Air Force (NAF), two combat pilots were ‘winged’ today, 4 July 2017 after successfully completing an 18-month Specialized Undergraduate Pilot Training at Laughlin Air Force Base, Texas in the United States of America. The two newly ‘winged’ pilots, both of the rank of Flying Officer, went through the primary and fighter jet training during which they amassed over 100 flying hours each on the T-6 Texan ii and T-38 Talon aircraft types. The 2 officers had earlier undergone an introductory flying training at the US Aviation Academy in Denton, where they flew the Cessna 172 aircraft. They will now be deployed to NAF combat units for tactical training on fighter jets. In his remarks during the winging ceremony, the Chief of the Air Staff (CAS), Air Marshal Sadique Abubakar reiterated that the NAF would not relent in its efforts at human capacity building, noting that the Service cannot function optimally without appropriate personnel training. The CAS further stated that the NAF was already reaping from its huge investment in human capacity building, as reflected in the several NAF aircraft that had been successfully reactivated, with attendant effect on operational efficiency. According to the CAS, “only the right training can enable personnel deal with the complex security challenges facing the country. We will therefore continue to build human capacity while also ensuring that our humanitarian intervention schemes are going on”. Air Marshal Abubakar congratulated the new pilots and urged them to quickly settle down and join the rest of their colleagues in defending the territorial integrity of the nation. Earlier in his remarks, the Chief of Training and Operations, who represented by the Director of Training (DOT), Air Vice Marshal Muhammed Idris, thanked the CAS for availing the pilots the opportunity to be trained at the prestigious Laughlin Air Force Base, remarking that the training comes with special laurel because of the uniqueness of the school. It would be recalled that only less than 3 weeks ago, the NAF ‘winged’ 10 officers who had just completed their one-year pilot training program. Many more NAF pilots and members of the ground crew were reported to be undergoing training at local and overseas training institutions. DOPRI
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 1:58pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 2:08pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
patches689:Wouldn't even shoot a Duiker with a .22 let alone a Bear.......could only have been from point blank range between the eyes. I'm not saying the 7.62 is better but at least you know your enemy is not going to stand up with a big a$$ hole in his back!! Where as with the 5.56 I won't be as confident. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tdayof(m): 2:27pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
I see something coming ![]() ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by LTGEN: 2:46pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 3:03pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
Henry240:Same old same old......don't know how many times we have to hear the same old story.......every body knows that the SANDF is underfunded for its size and role and unfortunately with the economy as it is the budget won't grow much larger in the next 2/3 years. That said according to the Minster of Defence they are exploring other funding options which seems to be at least helping the SANDF achieve the 1st objective of the defence review. But what I don't agree with is that the Army is the biggest loser, in recent years Communications systems,Rooikatte, Ratels and Olifant have been upgraded, currently all our artillery are being upgraded, the GBADS project seems to be on track so air defence shouldn't be a priority in the next few years. There's also the Milan ER anti tank launcher which we ordered in 2007 as well as the older Denel Ft5s so don't know how we lack close in anti tank weapons. We do lack air portable combat vehicles......but we always have, that's why we built vehicles like the Ratels and Rooikatte to DRIVE to where they have to be , what we don't lack is logistic vehicles we have thousands of Samil 20,50 and 100, they do however need to be maintained but that's why we brought in the Cubans to build our skill in that capacity. The African truck project from Denel is also another option the SANDF can explore if funding allows it. Also let's not forget that the Army also received the Chaka C2 system, impi blue force tracker, link za and also the general soldier modernization under project African warrior SAAF imo is the biggest loser........we desperately need new maritime surveillance aircraft and to a lesser extent light transports as well as medium transport aircraft to replace our C130......what SAAF lack the most is a heavy lift capability. With regards to our fighters all we really lack is BVR. And possibly air to ground missiles although we do have several guided bomb options to choose from. The Navy will receive new vessels under project biro and hotel, thus should somewhat solve the lack of vessels problem to an extent. 3 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 3:05pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
Henry240: lol Henry120 no doubt took great glee at posting this.... clearly the irony of such is lost on him. Standards, afterall, are subjective. What we find "sub-standard" others find to be "beyond their wildest dreams". 4 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 3:09pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
patches689: Well, i did not. I found it to be quite sad. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tdayof(m): 3:11pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
LTGEN: It's happening again and again.. Operation Nairaland storm: when patches will come after Henry. I love Jln's response. He responded with a nice write-up and even if there's going to be an argument, it's going to an an intelligent one. Now look at patches, his love affair with Henry is about to start again. Anyway, I'm watching in 7D 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 3:17pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
Henry240:What an epic journey, from first solo on the T-6 to the T-38 and then winging. Almost a year and half of rigorous training and suddenly you're a newborn fighter pilot. 2 Likes
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 3:19pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
jakeporeshenko:Only a year and a half to become a fighter pilot?? |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 3:19pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 3:21pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
tdayof: I could do an extremely detailed write up. But Henry120 doesnt respond to those. You have seen him, remeber the Gripen fiasco? He was rambling on about rhino poachers. 4 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 3:24pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
tdayof: A few weeks ago, Chikl0 made comments which were very poor-informed, and showed that he lacked the knowledge of the actual state of things in the South-African Air Force and the SANDF in general. However, i cannot blame him as he is North-African, as such would not be very conversant with other parts of Africa. Then, we are all here to learn. ![]() ![]() There would be no argument. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 3:26pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
jln115:The post from NAF said 18 months from basic trainer to lead in fighter, I guess the pair still have to go through type conversion training to the NAF platforms they'll pilot. 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 3:26pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
jln115: "They will now be deployed to NAF combat units for tactical training on fighter jets." |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 3:28pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
jakeporeshenko: Yeah, he still has sometime to go though. It's a commendable journey for the lad. "Lover of what he does". |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 3:32pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
Henry240: what very poor-informed comment have i made about south african air force ![]() ![]() was it my comment about the fact that a gripen is better than an alpha jet or F7 ?? 5 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 3:36pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
Henry240:Ah ok.....on the alpha or L39s |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 3:37pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
jln115: The L-39 based in Kano. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 4:00pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
tdayof: Ask and you shall receive. Henry240: - A lack of close in AT/Anti-bunker system * Project Kingfisher -Acquisition of Milan ADT (Advanced Digital Technology) Firing posts. Completed: 2008 -A lack of Air defence systems *Project Guardian - Starstreak MANPADS. Completed: 2014 *Project Protector - Upgrade of Oerlikon to Mk VII standard with the Skyshield fire control system. Completed: 2017 *Project Outcome - Introduction of Uhmkonto GBADS. Underway. *Project Radiate - fusion of Starstreak, Skyshiled and Uhmkonto into one net-centric system. Underway. -A lack of logistic vehicles to support mechanized forces * Projects Sepular and Vistula were just cancelled in favor of the CSIR reviewing existing technology in South Africa. This has allready resulted in the Africa Truck, which has been seen in the feild. - A lack of air transportable combat and logistic vehicles * Project Ambition 1A: Delivery of Hornet combat vehicles. Completed: 2009 * Project Ambition 1B: Delivery of Gecko combat and support vehicles. Completed: 2009 Henry240:* Project Assegaai - Aquistition of A-darter SRAAM. Deliveries commence: 2017 * Unknown Project - GBU-12 Paveway II. Acquired: Unknown date * Marlin BVR missile. Under development. Henry240:I dont even know what they mean by this. Henry240: Legitimate problem, bear in mind though that they mean: Not enough airlift to support a brigade sized movement via an air-bridge. No one in SSA has that capacity. Henry240: This is confusing, as we quite obviously do... I am not sure if they mean our "new" commitments which stem from the Defense Review or not... because, those are big commitments (see pic) But, lets not forget: * Project Hotel. Aquisition of new hydrographic vessel. Status: Underway, unknown completion date * Project Biro. Aquisition of 3 IPV and 3 OPV. Status: Preferred Bids selected, completion date unknown. * Project Carol. Aquisition of 5 boarding boats, unknown number of diving boats, unknown number of riverine patrol boats, ship sea boats, ferries, sailing dinghies, an ocean racing yacht. Status: Boarding boats delivered, Diving boats ordered, Rivirine patrols boats delivered, rest is unknown. Like, yeah. Its just the usual deal really. Peace time military, peace time problems. 5 Likes
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 4:06pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
Henry240: What actually happened is that Chikl0 wrecked your sh1t, and then days later the Gripen story broke which sent you into a state of eternal anal-devastation: a meltdown of such unprecedented and gargantuan proportions that it makes Chernobyl look like a birthday candle flickering in the wind. Hence your recent behavior. 8 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by MikeCZA: 4:10pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
patches689:It's an accepted fact that the SA defence industry which was protected by sanctions or the arms embargo and over charging the SADF will decline as many things can be sourced internationally cheaper instead of wasting funds in R & D or industrial espionage ![]() ![]() ![]() But strategic capabilities like systems integration, electronic warfare, ammunition e.g AAMs, cruise missiles, PGMs etc, adapting equipment, C2, maintenance etc will or still maintained. These things offer an edge over any African country or any potential foe within SADC and it's boarders. Interestingly I wonder if we are gonna be paranoid like in the late 90s when one of our neighbours acquired some light tanks. When that neighbour acquires new front line fighters. Are we gonna feel like we need to balance or regain an edge? picture related.. 2 Likes
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 4:16pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
MikeCZA: Depends what they put on them. Plus, I would say Zimbabwe would have more to worry about than we do. 1 Like |
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