Response To: What Will Happen To Igbo Properties In A Case Of Secession? by afonjaheadhunt: 10:44pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
This write up is to address the blatant lie and outright misinformation by Yorubas and other ignorant Nigerians alike. Taking a cue from other successful non violent secessions in Africa and across the globe one would realize that most of the write ups come from ill informed people and is simply the wishful thinking of lazy youths and one Nigeria praise singers whom want to reap were they have not sowed and want to use fear to make the Igbo's submit to one Nigeria, while that is impossible let me take a minute or two to educate the illiterates and to think that one even claimed to be a lawyer yet ignorant to simple international laws that preceded national borders, national laws or local politics of hate. Looking at global standard practice from countries like Sudan, Ethiopia, USSR, EU, UK, India, Pakistan, Malaysia, etc, to numerous to mention. Why will the case of Nigeria be different except you want us all to agree that Nigeria is a Zoo like Mazi Nnamdi Kanu have always opined.
Now let me make it clear that as soon as Biafra is declared a nation both Nigeria and Biafra becomes two sovereign nations subject to international laws, which supersedes that of Nigeria or Biafra, we are subject to Ecowas laws, African Union laws and UN laws as guiding sovereignty of nations and citizens therein, Biafrans being west Africa nationals will be free to live and work within any part of Nigeria and west African countries with an Ecowas passport, many Biafrans will have dual citizenship status of both Nigeria and Biafra, Igbo money in the banks will also be safe in their current banks which will also operate in Biafra subject to Biafra Central bank laws, however it is advisable to use Diamond, Fidelity or UBA bank now. Nigeria could not touch Igbo's money during the war the only way they could achieve that was to change their currency from Nigeria Pound to Nigeria Naira and deny payment, but that will not work any more if Biafran becomes a sovereign country peacefully especially now that banking is digital and global.
As for our investment and saying countries do not tolerate petty trading in their countries, that will not affect Igbo's in Nigeria rather it will define Igbo's investment in Nigeria by properly stating our worth, values, tax, and our IGR contribution, already Igbo's markets in Lagos are worth well over 500,000.00 USD I am not even talking about the goods, I am talking about the value of property and markets built by Igbo's in Nigeria, markets like Alaba international, ASPANDA (Trade Fair) Oduade (Building materials markets) these markets were solely built by Igbo investors and would beat and mark or investment capital put by the government, take a market like ASPANDA for example it comes with it's own flyover to prevent traffic gridlocks for customers coming to the market, has several police post, Banks, fire station, eatries, a field, etc. Also take Alaba for example it is one of the largest electronic market in west Africa, same for Oduade, these markets have all beat the investment benchmark, The only Igbo market that would be affected would be the Ladipo Auto Market but as we all know the have requested to be given a site to build their own market, so they are equally up to the task.
On this note if Nigeria should find tricks outside the book to steal from Biafra and rob them off what is rightfully theirs they will not just be creating friction with other west African or African countries but the rest of the world and sending a negative message to investors and other multinationals, this also makes it very easy for Biafra to challenge Nigeria's decision in a competent court of law, owning properties in your country is not illegal and in a case of secession you are not meant to loose your properties simply because of ones quest for nationhood more over it is the citizen that are represented and not the nation to it is illegal to take from citizens to spite a nation rather should Nigeria want to take actions against Biafra those action be taken against Biafra directly not its citizens living on their soil indirectly, Nigeria can do this by giving bans on importation of goods made in Biafra, allowing access though it borders, but to carry any illegal action against legitimate Biafrans living in Nigeria legally with an Ecowas passport is a breach of the law in it own doing.
Yoruba must understand that Frustrating Igbo businessmen, real estate owners or investors in their region will not add to South west rather it will take away from them, Yoruba leaders know this and see Igbo's as investors and economic drivers and strive to provide an enabling environment for Igbo's to live and do business in SW it is unfortunate that Yoruba youths think otherwise and wish to claim Igbo properties in Lagos by hoping that Igbo's are displaced of their properties and financial earning. What these so called youth have failed to realize is the devastating effects and implications that it will have in the region and Igbo's would always continue in their trade if not in SW or Nigeria they will continue their trade in Biafra, west Africa and every other country that has an airport and a seaport.
In the event of Igbo abandoning their properties in Lagos, the real estate of Lagos will depreciate and many of the properties will be vacant and occupied by peasants, illiterates, artisans and beggars thus watering down the status and class of the city. The earnings of the state government through the sea ports, airport, Tenement tax etc will witness a massive plunge. However should it be extended to Igbo business men and investors then the effect will be far overbearing for the city as the city will become a mere town and a shadow of itself, a perfect example is during Christmas celebrations when many Igbo's in Lagos travel for the celebrations, some might want to argue that other Yorubas in other states will fill those opportunities left by the Igbo's, then the question is who fills those left by the Yorubas. Take the abandoned properties saga in Rivers state for example, many of the properties abandoned by the Igbo's were inhabited by fishermen, farmers, petty traders and artisans look at those properties today the have not been maintained and it did not better the lives of those who took them while the Igbo's have come back to buy many of them back and even built new ones.
Did I also mention that they are Igbo's owned companies, banks, Tele communication providers, businesses, factories, industries etc that are littered all over the SW and the federation do you realize how much will be lost in tax payment to these companies do you realize the level of unemployment that their exit will guarantee and the kind of dangers and insecurity that it will pose. The relevance of Igbo's to the economic stability and progress of the federation cannot be over emphasized in as much as it remains a sweet dream to own Igbo properties but in reality the dangers are far too impending to let it befall a city like Lagos that have survived on the generosity of the common wealth and diversity of Nigerians and especially Igbo's. Some might say indigenization policy, but ask yourselves where are the one you initially indigenized. So while it might be a beggars wish Yoruba leader will not let them ride its horse because as far as the are concerned Lagos has to attain its 2020 and 2050 goals but the bitter truth is depriving the Igbo's of the gains of Lagos is also hurting its goal, a clear case of cutting the nose to spite the face.
These assumptions are solely the wishes of the poor illiterate Yorubas especially the youths amongst them who are lazy wish to reap where they did not sow, so they pray that such evil befall the Igbo's so that they can reap what the Igbo's have sown but it should be noted that as long as the Igbo's secede legitimately without violence or warfare then these wishful thinking remains exactly what it is nothing but mere wishful thinking a mirage and fictitious expectations. I advice such Yorubas to stop wasting the youthful years of their lives waiting for Igbo's to loose their properties so they can own it and become landlords of homes that they do not know when the foundation was conceived. Igbo's will not loose their property in an event of a non-violent and successful disintegration of Nigeria and actualization of Biafra.
A question for those set of Yorubas, have you thought of the fact that if Biafra secedes other regions will seek to be free from Nigeria as well? in such case will these their wishful thinking also apply to other secessionists or will it just be for the Igbo's, if the later is the answers that goes to show that it is a clear case of hate, jealousy, animosity and wickedness for the Igbo's that have bore this thoughts and not the legitimacy of the rational behind it. Biafra or One Nigeria Igbo's will continue to live and do business in Nigeria legitimately without fear or favor as enemies of Ndigbo would wish. 32 Likes 8 Shares |
Re: Response To: What Will Happen To Igbo Properties In A Case Of Secession? by Nobody: 11:05pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
The last sentence of the first paragraph rendered the rest of your post redundant. Nigeria is in fact a zoo. Nothing works here as it should in theory. So there is every possibility that Igbo people will lose their property in other parts of Nigeria should the country break up.
Secondly, International bodies have no say in domestic laws. Ecowas, AU and UN can not help you in a land dispute with anybody so you can forget that. 22 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Response To: What Will Happen To Igbo Properties In A Case Of Secession? by afonjaheadhunt: 11:27pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
slyfoxxjoe: The last sentence of the first paragraph rendered the rest of your post redundant. Nigeria is in fact a zoo. Nothing works here as it should in theory. So there is every possibility that Igbo people will lose their property in other parts of Nigeria should the country break up.
Secondly, International bodies have no say in domestic laws. Ecowas, AU and UN can not help you in a land dispute with anybody so you can forget that. The fact that Nigeria is a Zoo and nothing works therein does not make it above the law, so if they decide to go against laid down laws they will have to deal with the friction that comes with it. Says who, you are wrong, as relating to issues of secession, international boundary, International dispute it does, take Crimea as a case study. 18 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Response To: What Will Happen To Igbo Properties In A Case Of Secession? by Newmanluckyman(m): 11:32pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
afonjaheadhunt: This write up is to address the blatant lie and outright misinformation by Yorubas and other ignorant Nigerians alike. Taking a cue from other successful non violent secessions in Africa and across the globe one would realize that most of the write ups come from ill informed people and is simply the wishful thinking of lazy youths and one Nigeria praise singers whom want to reap were they have not sowed and want to use fear to make the Igbo's submit to one Nigeria, while that is impossible let me take a minute or two to educate the illiterates and to think that one even claimed to be a lawyer yet ignorant to simple international laws that preceded national borders, national laws or local politics of hate. Looking at global standard practice from countries like Sudan, Ethiopia, USSR, EU, UK, India, Pakistan, Malaysia, etc, to numerous to mention. Why will the case of Nigeria be different except you want us all to agree that Nigeria is a Zoo like Mazi Nnamdi Kanu have always opined.
Now let me make it clear that as soon as Biafra is declared a nation both Nigeria and Biafra becomes two sovereign nations subject to international laws, which supersedes that of Nigeria or Biafra, we are subject to Ecowas laws, African Union laws and UN laws as guiding sovereignty of nations and citizens therein, Biafrans being west Africa nationals will be free to live and work within any part of Nigeria and west African countries with an Ecowas passport, many Biafrans will have dual citizenship status of both Nigeria and Biafra, Igbo money in the banks will also be safe in their current banks which will also operate in Biafra subject to Biafra Central bank laws, however it is advisable to use Diamond, Fidelity or UBA bank now. Nigeria could not touch Igbo's money during the war the only way they could achieve that was to change their currency from Nigeria Pound to Nigeria Naira and deny payment, but that will not work any more if Biafran becomes a sovereign country peacefully especially now that banking is digital and global.
As for our investment and saying countries do not tolerate petty trading in their countries, that will not affect Igbo's in Nigeria rather it will define Igbo's investment in Nigeria by properly stating our worth, values, tax, and our IGR contribution, already Igbo's markets in Lagos are worth well over 500,000.00 USD I am not even talking about the goods, I am talking about the value of property and markets built by Igbo's in Nigeria, markets like Alaba international, ASPANDA (Trade Fair) Oduade (Building materials markets) these markets were solely built by Igbo investors and would beat and mark or investment capital put by the government, take a market like ASPANDA for example it comes with it's own flyover to prevent traffic gridlocks for customers coming to the market, has several police post, Banks, fire station, eatries, a field, etc. Also take Alaba for example it is one of the largest electronic market in west Africa, same for Oduade, these markets have all beat the investment benchmark, The only Igbo market that would be affected would be the Ladipo Auto Market but as we all know the have requested to be given a site to build their own market, so they are equally up to the task.
On this note if Nigeria should find tricks outside the book to steal from Biafra and rob them off what is rightfully theirs they will not just be creating friction with other west African or African countries but the rest of the world and sending a negative message to investors and other multinationals, this also makes it very easy for Biafra to challenge Nigeria's decision in a competent court of law, owning properties in your country is not illegal and in a case of secession you are not meant to loose your properties simply because of ones quest for nationhood more over it is the citizen that are represented and not the nation to it is illegal to take from citizens to spite a nation rather should Nigeria want to take actions against Biafra those action be taken against Biafra directly not its citizens living on their soil indirectly, Nigeria can do this by giving bans on importation of goods made in Biafra, allowing access though it borders, but to carry any illegal action against legitimate Biafrans living in Nigeria legally with an Ecowas passport is a breach of the law in it own doing.
Yoruba must understand that Frustrating Igbo businessmen, real estate owners or investors in their region will not add to South west rather it will take away from them, Yoruba leaders know this and see Igbo's as investors and economic drivers and strive to provide an enabling environment for Igbo's to live and do business in SW it is unfortunate that Yoruba youths think otherwise and wish to claim Igbo properties in Lagos by hoping that Igbo's are displaced of their properties and financial earning. What these so called youth have failed to realize is the devastating effects and implications that it will have in the region and Igbo's would always continue in their trade if not in SW or Nigeria they will continue their trade in Biafra, west Africa and every other country that has an airport and a seaport.
In the event of Igbo abandoning their properties in Lagos, the real estate of Lagos will depreciate and many of the properties will be vacant and occupied by peasants, illiterates, artisans and beggars thus watering down the status and class of the city. The earnings of the state government through the sea ports, airport, Tenement tax etc will witness a massive plunge. However should it be extended to Igbo business men and investors then the effect will be far overbearing for the city as the city will become a mere town and a shadow of itself, a perfect example is during Christmas celebrations when many Igbo's in Lagos travel for the celebrations, some might want to argue that other Yorubas in other states will fill those opportunities left by the Igbo's, then the question is who fills those left by the Yorubas. Take the abandoned properties saga in Rivers state for example, many of the properties abandoned by the Igbo's were inhabited by fishermen, farmers, petty traders and artisans look at those properties today the have not been maintained and it did not better the lives of those who took them while the Igbo's have come back to buy many of them back and even built new ones.
These assumptions are solely the wishes of the poor illiterate Yorubas especially the youths amongst them who are lazy wish to reap where they did not sow, so they pray that such evil befall the Igbo's so that they can reap what the Igbo's have sown but it should be noted that as long as the Igbo's secede legitimately without violence or warfare then these wishful thinking remains exactly what it is nothing but mere wishful thinking a mirage and fictitious expectations. I advice such Yorubas to stop wasting the youthful years of their lives waiting for Igbo's to loose their properties so they can own it and become landlords of homes that they do not know when the foundation was conceived. Igbo's will not loose their property in an event of a non-violent and successful disintegration of Nigeria and actualization of Biafra.
A question for those set of Yorubas, have you thought of the fact that if Biafra secedes other regions will seek to be free from Nigeria as well? in such case will these their wishful thinking also apply to other secessionists or will it just be for the Igbo's, if the later is the answers that goes to show that it is a clear case of hate, jealousy, animosity and wickedness for the Igbo's that have bore this thoughts and not the legitimacy of the rational behind it. Biafra or One Nigeria Igbo's will continue to live and do business in Nigeria legitimately without fear or favor as enemies of Ndigbo would wish.
...very nice submission. No inch of our Commonwealth, land and properties shall be left for scavengers. No amount of propaganda can change that. 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Response To: What Will Happen To Igbo Properties In A Case Of Secession? by profhezekiah: 11:38pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
Who will read d rubbish U wrote? U are hallucinating, just pack ur load and leave the north 1st and see what happen to ur properties, because hatred speech will nt even allow U to get them back 29 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Response To: What Will Happen To Igbo Properties In A Case Of Secession? by pressplay411(m): 11:40pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
I didn't read this but I like it already. 2 Likes |
Re: Response To: What Will Happen To Igbo Properties In A Case Of Secession? by Naijaguy12345(m): 11:41pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
What a load of rubbish, if the economic climate in your Biafra is that good Igbo would not have scattered all over. Leave the north first just like the guy above me said then watch what will happens to your properties. 29 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Response To: What Will Happen To Igbo Properties In A Case Of Secession? by CltrAltDel: 11:41pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
Yoruba must understand that Frustrating Igbo businessmen, real estate owners or investors in their region will not add to South west rather it will take away from them, Yoruba leaders know this and see Igbo's as investors and economic drivers and strive to provide an enabling environment for Igbo's to live and do business in SW it is unfortunate that Yoruba youths think otherwise and wish to claim Igbo properties in Lagos by hoping that Igbo's are displaced of their properties and financial earning. What these so called youth have failed to realize is the devastating effects and implications that it will have in the region and Igbo's would always continue in their trade if not in SW or Nigeria they will continue their trade in Biafra, west Africa and every other country that has an airport and a seaport.
And this A question for those set of Yorubas, have you thought of the fact that if Biafra secedes other regions will seek to be free from Nigeria as well? in such case will these their wishful thinking also apply to other secessionists or will it just be for the Igbo's, if the later is the answers that goes to show that it is a clear case of hate, jealousy, animosity and wickedness for the Igbo's that have bore this thoughts and not the legitimacy of the rational behind it With the above…. I can confirm that yorubas hold the key to actualization of Biafra…. Pls change the topic of your thread to "(Response To: What Will Happen To Igbo Properties in SW In A Case Of Secession?)". Your thread is not about Nigeria but about igbo properties in yoruba land We know the hatred is real….. Guess what, the feeling is mutual 28 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Response To: What Will Happen To Igbo Properties In A Case Of Secession? by Nobody: 11:43pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
afonjaheadhunt: This write up is to address the blatant lie and outright misinformation by Yorubas and other ignorant Nigerians alike. Taking a cue from other successful non violent secessions in Africa and across the globe one would realize that most of the write ups come from ill informed people and is simply the wishful thinking of lazy youths and one Nigeria praise singers whom want to reap were they have not sowed and want to use fear to make the Igbo's submit to one Nigeria, while that is impossible let me take a minute or two to educate the illiterates and to think that one even claimed to be a lawyer yet ignorant to simple international laws that preceded national borders, national laws or local politics of hate. Looking at global standard practice from countries like Sudan, Ethiopia, USSR, EU, UK, India, Pakistan, Malaysia, etc, to numerous to mention. Why will the case of Nigeria be different except you want us all to agree that Nigeria is a Zoo like Mazi Nnamdi Kanu have always opined.
Now let me make it clear that as soon as Biafra is declared a nation both Nigeria and Biafra becomes two sovereign nations subject to international laws, which supersedes that of Nigeria or Biafra, we are subject to Ecowas laws, African Union laws and UN laws as guiding sovereignty of nations and citizens therein, Biafrans being west Africa nationals will be free to live and work within any part of Nigeria and west African countries with an Ecowas passport, many Biafrans will have dual citizenship status of both Nigeria and Biafra, Igbo money in the banks will also be safe in their current banks which will also operate in Biafra subject to Biafra Central bank laws, however it is advisable to use Diamond, Fidelity or UBA bank now. Nigeria could not touch Igbo's money during the war the only way they could achieve that was to change their currency from Nigeria Pound to Nigeria Naira and deny payment, but that will not work any more if Biafran becomes a sovereign country peacefully especially now that banking is digital and global.
As for our investment and saying countries do not tolerate petty trading in their countries, that will not affect Igbo's in Nigeria rather it will define Igbo's investment in Nigeria by properly stating our worth, values, tax, and our IGR contribution, already Igbo's markets in Lagos are worth well over 500,000.00 USD I am not even talking about the goods, I am talking about the value of property and markets built by Igbo's in Nigeria, markets like Alaba international, ASPANDA (Trade Fair) Oduade (Building materials markets) these markets were solely built by Igbo investors and would beat and mark or investment capital put by the government, take a market like ASPANDA for example it comes with it's own flyover to prevent traffic gridlocks for customers coming to the market, has several police post, Banks, fire station, eatries, a field, etc. Also take Alaba for example it is one of the largest electronic market in west Africa, same for Oduade, these markets have all beat the investment benchmark, The only Igbo market that would be affected would be the Ladipo Auto Market but as we all know the have requested to be given a site to build their own market, so they are equally up to the task.
On this note if Nigeria should find tricks outside the book to steal from Biafra and rob them off what is rightfully theirs they will not just be creating friction with other west African or African countries but the rest of the world and sending a negative message to investors and other multinationals, this also makes it very easy for Biafra to challenge Nigeria's decision in a competent court of law, owning properties in your country is not illegal and in a case of secession you are not meant to loose your properties simply because of ones quest for nationhood more over it is the citizen that are represented and not the nation to it is illegal to take from citizens to spite a nation rather should Nigeria want to take actions against Biafra those action be taken against Biafra directly not its citizens living on their soil indirectly, Nigeria can do this by giving bans on importation of goods made in Biafra, allowing access though it borders, but to carry any illegal action against legitimate Biafrans living in Nigeria legally with an Ecowas passport is a breach of the law in it own doing.
Yoruba must understand that Frustrating Igbo businessmen, real estate owners or investors in their region will not add to South west rather it will take away from them, Yoruba leaders know this and see Igbo's as investors and economic drivers and strive to provide an enabling environment for Igbo's to live and do business in SW it is unfortunate that Yoruba youths think otherwise and wish to claim Igbo properties in Lagos by hoping that Igbo's are displaced of their properties and financial earning. What these so called youth have failed to realize is the devastating effects and implications that it will have in the region and Igbo's would always continue in their trade if not in SW or Nigeria they will continue their trade in Biafra, west Africa and every other country that has an airport and a seaport.
In the event of Igbo abandoning their properties in Lagos, the real estate of Lagos will depreciate and many of the properties will be vacant and occupied by peasants, illiterates, artisans and beggars thus watering down the status and class of the city. The earnings of the state government through the sea ports, airport, Tenement tax etc will witness a massive plunge. However should it be extended to Igbo business men and investors then the effect will be far overbearing for the city as the city will become a mere town and a shadow of itself, a perfect example is during Christmas celebrations when many Igbo's in Lagos travel for the celebrations, some might want to argue that other Yorubas in other states will fill those opportunities left by the Igbo's, then the question is who fills those left by the Yorubas. Take the abandoned properties saga in Rivers state for example, many of the properties abandoned by the Igbo's were inhabited by fishermen, farmers, petty traders and artisans look at those properties today the have not been maintained and it did not better the lives of those who took them while the Igbo's have come back to buy many of them back and even built new ones.
These assumptions are solely the wishes of the poor illiterate Yorubas especially the youths amongst them who are lazy wish to reap where they did not sow, so they pray that such evil befall the Igbo's so that they can reap what the Igbo's have sown but it should be noted that as long as the Igbo's secede legitimately without violence or warfare then these wishful thinking remains exactly what it is nothing but mere wishful thinking a mirage and fictitious expectations. I advice such Yorubas to stop wasting the youthful years of their lives waiting for Igbo's to loose their properties so they can own it and become landlords of homes that they do not know when the foundation was conceived. Igbo's will not loose their property in an event of a non-violent and successful disintegration of Nigeria and actualization of Biafra.
A question for those set of Yorubas, have you thought of the fact that if Biafra secedes other regions will seek to be free from Nigeria as well? in such case will these their wishful thinking also apply to other secessionists or will it just be for the Igbo's, if the later is the answers that goes to show that it is a clear case of hate, jealousy, animosity and wickedness for the Igbo's that have bore this thoughts and not the legitimacy of the rational behind it. Biafra or One Nigeria Igbo's will continue to live and do business in Nigeria legitimately without fear or favor as enemies of Ndigbo would wish.
I stopped reading at the first mention of international law. Listen Mr man if Biafra ever comes to existence, we in northern Nigeria have made it absolutely clear that Biafrans will no longer be welcome on our territory. The Kaduna declaration of last month more or less captured the thoughts of an average northerner towards the Biafran issue. We cant wait to see the 'international law' under God's heaven that will compel us to accommodate any foreigner or his property on our land. # One more thing: You are very ignorant on issues concerning international law 30 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Response To: What Will Happen To Igbo Properties In A Case Of Secession? by AshiwajuFoward: 11:48pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
Truth is that I don't blame this delusional OP. It's the busy-body Yorubas that don't know how to mind their business on this board that I blame. I'm talking about the ones that are perpetually bringing disgrace and ridicule not just to themselves but our race, by always yapping about 'igbo properties', 'igbo investments', and all manner of crap, as if Igbo people are the only non-indigenes in Yorubaland that have properties and investments for goodness sakes. There are South-South people that also own properties as well as investments in the SW, ditto Northerners, and even non-Nigerians sef. But some shameless unity-beggers who have lost their senses will not allow us to hear word again (perhaps because they fvcking one Shinwere and Ngozi), so they keep disturbing us and embarrassing themselves while making these people feel important. No be una fault. 42 Likes 7 Shares |
Re: Response To: What Will Happen To Igbo Properties In A Case Of Secession? by ipobarecriminals: 11:49pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
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Re: Response To: What Will Happen To Igbo Properties In A Case Of Secession? by afonjaheadhunt: 11:54pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
profhezekiah: Who will read d rubbish U wrote? U are hallucinating, just pack ur load and leave the north 1st and see what happen to ur properties, because hatred speech will nt even allow U to get them back the article is not for 2kb brain power, even if you manage to read it your brain wouldn't be able to process it without crashing. 13 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Response To: What Will Happen To Igbo Properties In A Case Of Secession? by CltrAltDel: 11:58pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
GoroTango: I stopped reading at the first mention of international laws. Listen Mr man if Biafra ever comes to existence, we in northern Nigeria have made it absolutely clear that Biafrans will not welcome in our territory any longer. The Kaduna declaration of last month is more or less captured the thoughts of an average northerner towards the Biafran issue. We cant wait to see the 'international law' under God's heaven that will compel us to accommodate any foreigner or his property on our land.
# One more thing: You are very ignorant on issues concerning international law Very….. Very.. IGNORANT!!! 18 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Response To: What Will Happen To Igbo Properties In A Case Of Secession? by afonjaheadhunt: 11:58pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
Naijaguy12345: What a load of rubbish, if the economic climate in your Biafra is that good Igbo would not have scattered all over. Leave the north first just like the guy above me said then watch what will happens to your properties. This thread is not about why Igbos are scattered all over the place you can create another one for that. As for our properties in the North nothing will happen to them. 9 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Response To: What Will Happen To Igbo Properties In A Case Of Secession? by unohbethel(m): 12:00am On Jul 05, 2017 |
best response against one nigeria..stupid unity beggers.@op some people wil fall in d lagoon cos of dis..as ur name suggests, keep being afonjas nitemare. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Response To: What Will Happen To Igbo Properties In A Case Of Secession? by afonjaheadhunt: 12:03am On Jul 05, 2017 |
GoroTango: I stopped reading at the first mention of international laws. Listen Mr man if Biafra ever comes to existence, we in northern Nigeria have made it absolutely clear that Biafrans will not welcome in our territory any longer. The Kaduna declaration of last month is more or less captured the thoughts of an average northerner towards the Biafran issue. We cant wait to see the 'international law' under God's heaven that will compel us to accommodate any foreigner or his property on our land.
# One more thing: You are very ignorant on issues concerning international law Your submission holds no water, Is your Northern Nigeria not in West Africa? Except you guys would opt out from the union then you can talk.. coming from one who thinks his versed on intl laws... 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Response To: What Will Happen To Igbo Properties In A Case Of Secession? by HausaOverlord: 12:04am On Jul 05, 2017 |
Developers never cease to amaze me. 6 Likes |
Re: Response To: What Will Happen To Igbo Properties In A Case Of Secession? by pryme(m): 12:10am On Jul 05, 2017 |
Hahahaha, somebody pls borrow the op a brain, he talks about being a member of ECOWAS is that how you become a member of ECOWAS over night?
You insulted your host in the north when you were asked to leave you say Nigeria was never one or else how can we say the north is your host, but Biafra is your land abi?
It's like you guys don't know Nigeria has the right to throw out your any form of secession and nothing any body will do about it. And there will be nothing that either AU or ECOWAS can do about it.
You Igbos are heartless you guys do not care about the lives that will be lost when it all starts, that's how you guys instigated the war when the hunger and starvation started you guys were screaming blue murder, as if na Nigeria send una.
To all the good Ibos with integrity, I will remember you in my prayers, for I know out of all the deluded Igbos there are still upright Ibos 28 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Response To: What Will Happen To Igbo Properties In A Case Of Secession? by profhezekiah: 12:12am On Jul 05, 2017 |
afonjaheadhunt: the article is not for 2kb brain power, even if you manage to read it your brain wouldn't be able to process it without crashing. Ur stupidity couldn't just stop growing. 12 Likes |
Re: Response To: What Will Happen To Igbo Properties In A Case Of Secession? by Yyeske(m): 12:15am On Jul 05, 2017 |
afonjaheadhunt: This thread is not about why Igbos are scattered all over the place you can create another one for that.
As for our properties in the North nothing will happen to them. For your mind abi? Everything will be lost from Abuja to Kano, Kaduna, Sokoto etc. Then the SW issues theirs too and everything we own in Lagos, Ibadan, Akure etc are all gone. Don't be deceived, international law is never binding as any country can amend its laws. Nigeria can confiscate our properties in their domain and heaven will not fall. Benin, Calabar, Warri and even PH is not even sure for Ndigbo, it has happened before and it might happen again 10 Likes |
Re: Response To: What Will Happen To Igbo Properties In A Case Of Secession? by afonjaheadhunt: 12:21am On Jul 05, 2017 |
pryme: Hahahaha, somebody pls borrow the op a brain, he talks about being a member of ECOWAS is that how you become a member of ECOWAS over night?
You insulted your host in the north when you were asked to leave you say Nigeria was never one or else how can we say the north is your host, but Biafra is your land abi?
It's like you guys don't know Nigeria has the right to throw out your any form of secession and nothing any body will do about it. And there will be nothing that either AU or ECOWAS can do about it.
You Igbos are heartless you guys do not care about the lives that will be lost when it all starts, that's how you guys instigated the war when the hunger and starvation started you guys were screaming blue murder, as if na Nigeria send una.
To all the good Ibos with integrity, I will remember you in my prayers, for I know out of all the deluded Igbos there are still upright Ibos Everything you have written up there is based on Emotions and personal feelings, world bodies, Ecowas and the courts are not driven by such sentiments. 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Response To: What Will Happen To Igbo Properties In A Case Of Secession? by Nobody: 12:24am On Jul 05, 2017 |
afonjaheadhunt: Your submission holds no water, Is your Northern Nigeria not in West Africa? Except you guys would opt out from the union then you can talk.. coming from one who thinks his versed on intl laws...
You see how you openly display your ignorance on matters regarding international treaties? Let me indulge you a bit 1. International treaties cannot take precedence over a sovereign nation's laws. It never has and never will 2. The ECOWAS treaty that you made mention of has a clause that specifically states that no new nation stae can be admitted into the community except with the unanimous consent of all member states, which implies that any of the current 16 nation ECOWAS member states can permanently veto Biafra's acceptance into the community (Though this may be unlikely) 3. Also according to article 4 of the ECOWAS treaty which is Protocol A/P.1/5/79 Relating to Free Movement of Persons, Residence and EstablishmentArticle 4
Notwithstanding the provisions of Article 3 [granting community citizens the right of entry and stay provided they have valid travel documents and health certificates] above, Member States shall reserve the right to refuse admission into their territory any Community citizen who comes within the category of inadmissible immigrant under its laws.4. International law is 'consent based'. This means that a state member is not obliged to abide by any type of international law, unless it has expressly consented to a particular course of conduct. 28 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: Response To: What Will Happen To Igbo Properties In A Case Of Secession? by afonjaheadhunt: 12:28am On Jul 05, 2017 |
profhezekiah: Ur stupidity couldn't just stop growing. Lame, coming from an Abule slum dweller who eats algae for soup. 4 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Response To: What Will Happen To Igbo Properties In A Case Of Secession? by vicadex07(m): 12:31am On Jul 05, 2017 |
Wat held u back from retrieving ur abandoned properties in the niger delta during the civil war. Go and arrest the people that seized dem now. The yorubas gav u back ur things bac then out of benevolence and not because of any phantom international law. I dont think we will be dat benevolent dis time around cos of ur hate campaigns against us. We now genuinely hate u people becos of the actions of ipob. afonjaheadhunt:
The fact that Nigeria is a Zoo and nothing works therein does not make it above the law, so if they decide to go against laid down laws they will have to deal with the friction that comes with it.
Says who, you are wrong, as relating to issues of secession, international boundary, International dispute it does, take Crimea as a case study. 16 Likes |
Re: Response To: What Will Happen To Igbo Properties In A Case Of Secession? by afonjaheadhunt: 12:35am On Jul 05, 2017 |
Yyeske: For your mind abi? Everything will be lost from Abuja to Kano, Kaduna, Sokoto etc. Then the SW issues theirs too and everything we own in Lagos, Ibadan, Akure etc are all gone. Don't be deceived, international law is never binding as any country can amend its laws. Nigeria can confiscate our properties in their domain and heaven will not fall. Benin, Calabar, Warri and even PH is not even sure for Ndigbo, it has happened before and it might happen again No they cant, stop writing out of uninformed emotions, just do a little research before spewing out of ignorance, i dint want to make this article too long as you can see many are complaining so i skipped a lot of illustrations, if Nigeria wants to successfully claim Igbo properties then they need to leave all those bodies and operate in isolation. You can create another thread for who is sure for Biafra and who is not but don't derail this thread with that trash, you that is talking you are not sure for ndigbo, so get out. 5 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: Response To: What Will Happen To Igbo Properties In A Case Of Secession? by afonjaheadhunt: 12:44am On Jul 05, 2017 |
vicadex07: Wat held u back from retrieving ur abandoned properties in the niger delta during the civil war. Go and arrest the people that seized dem now. The yorubas gav u back ur things bac then out of benevolence and not because of any phantom international law. I dont think we will be dat benevolent dis time around cos of ur hate campaigns against us. We now genuinely hate u people becos of the actions of ipob. I have emboldened the answer to your question, it was not a peaceful secession that was why and the war did not come with victory. As for benevolence go to surulere and ojuelegba and see yorubas still living in Igbo houses till this day yorubas should stop telling those lies is the Lagos state government and federal goverment not still using Ojukwus fathers property in Lagos till this day? stop the lie. 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Response To: What Will Happen To Igbo Properties In A Case Of Secession? by afonjaheadhunt: 12:45am On Jul 05, 2017 |
GoroTango: You see how you openly display your ignorance even on matters regarding international treaties. Let me indulge you a bit
1. International treaties cannot take precedence over a sovereign nations laws. It never has and never will 2. The ECOWAS treaty that you made mention of has a clause that specifically states that no new nation can be admitted into the community except with the unanimous consent of all member states. Any of the current 16 nation ECOWAS states can permanently veto Biafra's acceptance into the community (Though this may be unlikely) 3. Also according to article 4 of the ECOWAS treaty which is
Protocol A/P.1/5/79 Relating to Free Movement of Persons, Residence and Establishment
Article 4
Notwithstanding the provisions of Article 3 [granting community citizens the right of entry and stay provided they have valid travel documents and health certificates] above, Member States shall reserve the right to refuse admission into their territory any Community citizen who comes within the category of inadmissible immigrant under its laws.
4. International law is 'consent based'. This means that a state member is not obliged to abide by this type of international law, unless it has expressly consented to a particular course of conduct. Are you dumb to read what you posted didnt you see that it supported my claims. 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Response To: What Will Happen To Igbo Properties In A Case Of Secession? by Babalegba(m): 12:49am On Jul 05, 2017 |
afonjaheadhunt: This write up is to address the blatant lie and outright misinformation by Yorubas and other ignorant Nigerians alike. Taking a cue from other successful non violent secessions in Africa and across the globe one would realize that most of the write ups come from ill informed people and is simply the wishful thinking of lazy youths and one Nigeria praise singers whom want to reap were they have not sowed and want to use fear to make the Igbo's submit to one Nigeria, while that is impossible let me take a minute or two to educate the illiterates and to think that one even claimed to be a lawyer yet ignorant to simple international laws that preceded national borders, national laws or local politics of hate. Looking at global standard practice from countries like Sudan, Ethiopia, USSR, EU, UK, India, Pakistan, Malaysia, etc, to numerous to mention. Why will the case of Nigeria be different except you want us all to agree that Nigeria is a Zoo like Mazi Nnamdi Kanu have always opined.
Now let me make it clear that as soon as Biafra is declared a nation both Nigeria and Biafra becomes two sovereign nations subject to international laws, which supersedes that of Nigeria or Biafra, we are subject to Ecowas laws, African Union laws and UN laws as guiding sovereignty of nations and citizens therein, Biafrans being west Africa nationals will be free to live and work within any part of Nigeria and west African countries with an Ecowas passport, many Biafrans will have dual citizenship status of both Nigeria and Biafra, Igbo money in the banks will also be safe in their current banks which will also operate in Biafra subject to Biafra Central bank laws, however it is advisable to use Diamond, Fidelity or UBA bank now. Nigeria could not touch Igbo's money during the war the only way they could achieve that was to change their currency from Nigeria Pound to Nigeria Naira and deny payment, but that will not work any more if Biafran becomes a sovereign country peacefully especially now that banking is digital and global.
As for our investment and saying countries do not tolerate petty trading in their countries, that will not affect Igbo's in Nigeria rather it will define Igbo's investment in Nigeria by properly stating our worth, values, tax, and our IGR contribution, already Igbo's markets in Lagos are worth well over 500,000.00 USD I am not even talking about the goods, I am talking about the value of property and markets built by Igbo's in Nigeria, markets like Alaba international, ASPANDA (Trade Fair) Oduade (Building materials markets) these markets were solely built by Igbo investors and would beat and mark or investment capital put by the government, take a market like ASPANDA for example it comes with it's own flyover to prevent traffic gridlocks for customers coming to the market, has several police post, Banks, fire station, eatries, a field, etc. Also take Alaba for example it is one of the largest electronic market in west Africa, same for Oduade, these markets have all beat the investment benchmark, The only Igbo market that would be affected would be the Ladipo Auto Market but as we all know the have requested to be given a site to build their own market, so they are equally up to the task.
On this note if Nigeria should find tricks outside the book to steal from Biafra and rob them off what is rightfully theirs they will not just be creating friction with other west African or African countries but the rest of the world and sending a negative message to investors and other multinationals, this also makes it very easy for Biafra to challenge Nigeria's decision in a competent court of law, owning properties in your country is not illegal and in a case of secession you are not meant to loose your properties simply because of ones quest for nationhood more over it is the citizen that are represented and not the nation to it is illegal to take from citizens to spite a nation rather should Nigeria want to take actions against Biafra those action be taken against Biafra directly not its citizens living on their soil indirectly, Nigeria can do this by giving bans on importation of goods made in Biafra, allowing access though it borders, but to carry any illegal action against legitimate Biafrans living in Nigeria legally with an Ecowas passport is a breach of the law in it own doing.
Yoruba must understand that Frustrating Igbo businessmen, real estate owners or investors in their region will not add to South west rather it will take away from them, Yoruba leaders know this and see Igbo's as investors and economic drivers and strive to provide an enabling environment for Igbo's to live and do business in SW it is unfortunate that Yoruba youths think otherwise and wish to claim Igbo properties in Lagos by hoping that Igbo's are displaced of their properties and financial earning. What these so called youth have failed to realize is the devastating effects and implications that it will have in the region and Igbo's would always continue in their trade if not in SW or Nigeria they will continue their trade in Biafra, west Africa and every other country that has an airport and a seaport.
In the event of Igbo abandoning their properties in Lagos, the real estate of Lagos will depreciate and many of the properties will be vacant and occupied by peasants, illiterates, artisans and beggars thus watering down the status and class of the city. The earnings of the state government through the sea ports, airport, Tenement tax etc will witness a massive plunge. However should it be extended to Igbo business men and investors then the effect will be far overbearing for the city as the city will become a mere town and a shadow of itself, a perfect example is during Christmas celebrations when many Igbo's in Lagos travel for the celebrations, some might want to argue that other Yorubas in other states will fill those opportunities left by the Igbo's, then the question is who fills those left by the Yorubas. Take the abandoned properties saga in Rivers state for example, many of the properties abandoned by the Igbo's were inhabited by fishermen, farmers, petty traders and artisans look at those properties today the have not been maintained and it did not better the lives of those who took them while the Igbo's have come back to buy many of them back and even built new ones.
These assumptions are solely the wishes of the poor illiterate Yorubas especially the youths amongst them who are lazy wish to reap where they did not sow, so they pray that such evil befall the Igbo's so that they can reap what the Igbo's have sown but it should be noted that as long as the Igbo's secede legitimately without violence or warfare then these wishful thinking remains exactly what it is nothing but mere wishful thinking a mirage and fictitious expectations. I advice such Yorubas to stop wasting the youthful years of their lives waiting for Igbo's to loose their properties so they can own it and become landlords of homes that they do not know when the foundation was conceived. Igbo's will not loose their property in an event of a non-violent and successful disintegration of Nigeria and actualization of Biafra.
A question for those set of Yorubas, have you thought of the fact that if Biafra secedes other regions will seek to be free from Nigeria as well? in such case will these their wishful thinking also apply to other secessionists or will it just be for the Igbo's, if the later is the answers that goes to show that it is a clear case of hate, jealousy, animosity and wickedness for the Igbo's that have bore this thoughts and not the legitimacy of the rational behind it. Biafra or One Nigeria Igbo's will continue to live and do business in Nigeria legitimately without fear or favor as enemies of Ndigbo would wish.
Keep deluding yourself.Biafrans would need work permit in Nigeria and would not be able to set up businesses anyhow. You cannot eat your cake and have it. I do hope Nigeria kicks all of you out. 14 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Response To: What Will Happen To Igbo Properties In A Case Of Secession? by Yyeske(m): 12:50am On Jul 05, 2017 |
afonjaheadhunt: No they cant, stop writing out of uninformed emotions, just do a little research before spewing out of ignorance, i dint want to make this article too long as you can see many are complaining so i skipped a lot of illustrations, if Nigeria wants to successfully claim Igbo properties then they need to leave all those bodies and operate in isolation.
You can create another thread for who is sure for Biafra and who is not but don't derail this thread with that trash, you that is talking you are not sure for ndigbo, so get out. Abuse as much As you can but be rest assured that Biafrans would lose everything in Nigeria as Nigeria could amend its laws and there is nothing you can do about it. Those of you outside Igboland would need visas and renewing them from time to time, that is even if the Nigerian government allows for it. They could deport you and never allow you into Nigeria. 11 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Response To: What Will Happen To Igbo Properties In A Case Of Secession? by Yyeske(m): 12:55am On Jul 05, 2017 |
afonjaheadhunt:
I have emboldened the answer to your question, it was not a peaceful secession that was why and the war did not come with victory.
As for benevolence go To surulere and ojuelegba and see yorubas still living in Igbo houses till this day yorubas should stop telling those lies
is the Lagos state government and federal goverment not still using Ojukwus fathers property in Lagos till this day? stop the lie. This time around, every Igbo property in Lagos will be gone, 12 Likes |
Re: Response To: What Will Happen To Igbo Properties In A Case Of Secession? by Nobody: 12:57am On Jul 05, 2017 |
afonjaheadhunt: Are you dumb to read what you posted didnt you see that it supported my claims. What claims? I am only trying to make one single point: WE CAN KICK YOU OUT ANYTIME as long as it serves the national interest period! 10 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Response To: What Will Happen To Igbo Properties In A Case Of Secession? by afonjaheadhunt: 1:04am On Jul 05, 2017 |
Babalegba: Keep deluding yourself.Biafrans would need work permit in Nigeria and would not be able to set up businesses anyhow. You cannot eat your cake and have it. I do hope Nigeria kicks all of you out. Do Nigerians need work permit in Togo, Benin, Ghana and other WA countries? or you people simply just looking for a way to get back at biafrans? why so much pain in the heart of Nigeria over Biafra quest to exit? As for our business Igbo never set up businesses anyhow we always develop our own markets. 8 Likes 1 Share |