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Re: Senate Is Confused, It Wants To Be Co-executive With The Presidency – Sagay by PHILipu1(m): 9:09am On Jul 05, 2017
pauljumbo:
Sagay where is buhari

Power don't stay in vacuum since the president is absent thats why we are having all this problem.
.

What do you need Buhari for that Osinbajo can not do as acting president?

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Re: Senate Is Confused, It Wants To Be Co-executive With The Presidency – Sagay by HAH: 9:10am On Jul 05, 2017
FrankGiel:
u forgot to include the part that the report given by this supposed executive arm of government was investigated and Magu was cleared by presidency.. The question is, why would the senate choose which report to take and which to ignore??
he was cleared the presidency panel after the first rejection then his name was forwarded the second time and as statoturily required the DSS gave a damning report again on Magu, so who is to blame.?
Re: Senate Is Confused, It Wants To Be Co-executive With The Presidency – Sagay by farem: 9:11am On Jul 05, 2017
“This is a confused Senate which does not know whether it is a legislative body or an executive body. It wants to be co-executive with the Presidency which is not possible.”
-Sagay
Re: Senate Is Confused, It Wants To Be Co-executive With The Presidency – Sagay by lincs25(m): 9:12am On Jul 05, 2017
Since the return of demorcracy in Nigeria, the present senate is the most confused and corrupt chamber!
Re: Senate Is Confused, It Wants To Be Co-executive With The Presidency – Sagay by dallyemmy: 9:16am On Jul 05, 2017
Former Executive Governors (Now Senators) embarassed embarassed embarassed.
Re: Senate Is Confused, It Wants To Be Co-executive With The Presidency – Sagay by farem: 9:17am On Jul 05, 2017
Oblang:



The senate can only refuse to confirm but cannot sack someone appointed in acting capacity...

This fact consign Senate to the dust bin of toothless bull dog for Osinbajo
Re: Senate Is Confused, It Wants To Be Co-executive With The Presidency – Sagay by FrankGiel: 9:18am On Jul 05, 2017
HAH:
he was cleared the presidency panel after the first rejection then his name was forwarded the second time and as statoturily required the DSS gave a damning report again on Magu, so who is to blame.?
The DSS gave the same report again..no new info
Re: Senate Is Confused, It Wants To Be Co-executive With The Presidency – Sagay by Roric: 9:18am On Jul 05, 2017
ynaijaNews:


Chairman of the Presidential Advisory Committee against Corruption (PACAC), Prof. Itse Sagay has described the Senate as a ‘confused’ assembly.

Sagay said this while reacting to the suspension of confirmation of appointees over a statement made by Acting President Yemi Osinbajo.

Osinbajo had reportedly said the President was empowered to make some appointments without seeking legislative approval as provided in Section 171 of the Constitution.

He was reportedly speaking about the refusal of the Senate to confirm Ibrahim Magu as chairman of the EFCC.

Sagay however said the senators wee afraid because their hands were not clean.

He said Magu was an executive appointee who could not be sacked by legislative pronouncement.

He said, “Those who have profited from the corruption that has ravaged this country for years are the ones the Senate is trying to please. Magu is an executive official appointed by the executive arm and he has powers under the EFCC Act, and clearly, the constitution gives the President the power to appoint him.

“The Senate cannot be both legislature and executive. They cannot determine who should be sacked or not. They can do that for their legislative aides but not for members of agencies under the executive branch.

“This is a confused Senate which does not know whether it is a legislative body or an executive body. It wants to be co-executive with the Presidency which is not possible.”

YNAIJA

Prof please lecture this morons very well.
Re: Senate Is Confused, It Wants To Be Co-executive With The Presidency – Sagay by nijascammers: 9:19am On Jul 05, 2017
NwaAmaikpe:
shocked

Obasanjo once called Sagay 'senile'

He wasn't wrong.
you nko? prick.
Re: Senate Is Confused, It Wants To Be Co-executive With The Presidency – Sagay by edupedia: 9:20am On Jul 05, 2017
pauljumbo:
Sagay where is buhari

Power don't stay in vacuum since the president is absent thats why we are having all this problem.

....some IPOB members who have not seen their parents for years are asking Sagay yeye questions as usual....olodos...

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Re: Senate Is Confused, It Wants To Be Co-executive With The Presidency – Sagay by cyprex: 9:22am On Jul 05, 2017
helpee:
It is sagay himself that is confused. The Senate can't decide for executive who to nominate for a position but the executive too can't decide for the Senate who to confirm and as long as you are not confirmed as an EFCC chair, you can't hold on to the office illegally. The law envisaged a situation whereby the president may eventually nominate his wife as EFCC chair for vendetta and personal reasons so it created a check and balance via confirmation with the Senate which are representatives of the people. Once the Senate says no, it means no. If you are not happy with your senator decision you can recall him but whatever he does in his capacity today as your senator is legal and must be respected. So it is partisan sagay that is a comedian

You spoke well but you could have done better if you understood that there is a 3rd arm- the Judiciary. If the senate feels that the executive has breached the law by not sacking Magu after it refused to confirm him, they should approach the court and not to order for Magu's sack by themselves. Senate has no such powers.

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Re: Senate Is Confused, It Wants To Be Co-executive With The Presidency – Sagay by segbanky(m): 9:26am On Jul 05, 2017
Good talk from sagay,continue to educate and enlighten them because as law makers it's as if they don't know their purpose of been there.
Re: Senate Is Confused, It Wants To Be Co-executive With The Presidency – Sagay by aolawale025: 9:26am On Jul 05, 2017
Oblang:



The senate can only refuse to confirm but cannot sack someone appointed in acting capacity...


However once an appointee in acting position has been sent for confirmation and rejected. Such appointee can no longer hold that position. You can only act pending the confirmation process
Re: Senate Is Confused, It Wants To Be Co-executive With The Presidency – Sagay by truthstands11: 9:28am On Jul 05, 2017
helpee:
It is sagay himself that is confused. The Senate can't decide for executive who to nominate for a position but the executive too can't decide for the Senate who to confirm and as long as you are not confirmed as an EFCC chair, you can't hold on to the office illegally. The law envisaged a situation whereby the president may eventually nominate his wife as EFCC chair for vendetta and personal reasons so it created a check and balance via confirmation with the Senate which are representatives of the people. Once the Senate says no, it means no. If you are not happy with your senator decision you can recall him but whatever he does in his capacity today as your senator is legal and must be respected. So it is partisan sagay that is a comedian
Absolutely correct. You just said it all.
Re: Senate Is Confused, It Wants To Be Co-executive With The Presidency – Sagay by pauljumbo(m): 9:30am On Jul 05, 2017
PHILipu1:
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What do you need Buhari for that Osinbajo can not do as acting president?

Lets be real to ourselves

Osinbanjo is not in control

In Nigeria the president control everything

Osinbanjo can't inaugurate ordinary ambassador we are talking he his in control

We can't keep quiet like see their power vacuum in Abuja the more this dangerous politician will be heating up the polity
Re: Senate Is Confused, It Wants To Be Co-executive With The Presidency – Sagay by Yemikola(m): 9:33am On Jul 05, 2017
helpee:
It is sagay himself that is confused. The Senate can't decide for executive who to nominate for a position but the executive too can't decide for the Senate who to confirm and as long as you are not confirmed as an EFCC chair, you can't hold on to the office illegally. The law envisaged a situation whereby the president may eventually nominate his wife as EFCC chair for vendetta and personal reasons so it created a check and balance via confirmation with the Senate which are representatives of the people. Once the Senate says no, it means no. If you are not happy with your senator decision you can recall him but whatever he does in his capacity today as your senator is legal and must be respected. So it is partisan sagay that is a comedian
Remember Magu is till holding on to that office in acting capacity & can't be substansive without senate confirmation. Senate trying to determine how far Magu can stay in acting capacity is overzealousness & usurp of executive powers.
Re: Senate Is Confused, It Wants To Be Co-executive With The Presidency – Sagay by Nobody: 9:39am On Jul 05, 2017
Kathmandu:
The Legislature is the reason why we are not seeing the brutality of 1984 all over again


Walahi, people just say anything that pops into their head. This country just dey tire me
Re: Senate Is Confused, It Wants To Be Co-executive With The Presidency – Sagay by surgical: 9:43am On Jul 05, 2017
helpee:
It is sagay himself that is confused. The Senate can't decide for executive who to nominate for a position but the executive too can't decide for the Senate who to confirm and as long as you are not confirmed as an EFCC chair, you can't hold on to the office illegally. The law envisaged a situation whereby the president may eventually nominate his wife as EFCC chair for vendetta and personal reasons so it created a check and balance via confirmation with the Senate which are representatives of the people. Once the Senate says no, it means no. If you are not happy with your senator decision you can recall him but whatever he does in his capacity today as your senator is legal and must be respected. So it is partisan sagay that is a comedian
. sagay is a theoretical SAN he does not have much of real world experience, that's why he is just muddling things up becoming more of a liability to the government.
Re: Senate Is Confused, It Wants To Be Co-executive With The Presidency – Sagay by IamaNigerianGuy(m): 9:52am On Jul 05, 2017
helpee:
That is only applicable if they are yet to send his name for confirmation. This is abuse of our constitution. The constitution envisaged that some people chosen to act in some sensitive post by the executive may not be in the best interest of all that is the essence of confirmation. You can't be rejected for a substantive position and now claim to exercise same powers only in acting capacity. You yourself knows this is an aberration but i wonder when nigeria will ever be ok if we all see that this is not right but based on our partisan stand we close a blind eye. If the executive can keep people perpetually in position without confirmation by the Senate the essence of checks and balance is defeated we will never grow as a nation

I agree with you completely.
There are many ignorant people on this forum speaking from a partisan position.

Though I detest the Senate, I believe it is within their legal rights to reject and block any official presented from acting in that capacity.

In the situation we find ourselves, with competing interpretations of the relevant constitutional provisions, the best course of action is to approach the courts for guidance.
This is how a democracy grows.
Re: Senate Is Confused, It Wants To Be Co-executive With The Presidency – Sagay by nextprince: 9:53am On Jul 05, 2017
vedaxcool:


Don't you know ipob animals are brainless, useless imbec11s who can't think properly because they mortgage their brains to cownu to clown of beerfraud?
Choi, savage.

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Re: Senate Is Confused, It Wants To Be Co-executive With The Presidency – Sagay by ELKHALIFAISIS(m): 9:53am On Jul 05, 2017
jpmoriarti:
This Sagay no dey fear that yeye senate!

Excellent reply
uncle I thought all APC members are saints and corrupt free ayam not understanding
Re: Senate Is Confused, It Wants To Be Co-executive With The Presidency – Sagay by HAH: 9:57am On Jul 05, 2017
FrankGiel:

The DSS gave the same report again..no new info
which mean they still insist on their report and by the way DSS is the number 1 intelligence agency
Re: Senate Is Confused, It Wants To Be Co-executive With The Presidency – Sagay by surgical: 9:57am On Jul 05, 2017
cyprex:


You spoke well but you could have done better if you understood that there is a 3rd arm- the Judiciary. If the senate feels that the executive has breached the law by not sacking Magu after it refused to confirm him, they should approach the court and not to order for Magu's sack by themselves. Senate has no such powers.
They don't need to do that, osinbajo knows the consequence, he. will comply when the Senate put fire in his yansh, even obasanjo behaved when he saw impeachment starring him in the face, magu is not significant enough for osinbanjo to toy with his once in a life time opportunity, there are many out there who are better than magu, without the liabilities of magu.
Re: Senate Is Confused, It Wants To Be Co-executive With The Presidency – Sagay by famology(m): 9:57am On Jul 05, 2017
D senate has gone mad,nt only confused.
Re: Senate Is Confused, It Wants To Be Co-executive With The Presidency – Sagay by Nobody: 10:20am On Jul 05, 2017
helpee:
It is sagay himself that is confused. The Senate can't decide for executive who to nominate for a position bOnce the Senate says no, it means no. If you are not happy with your senator decision you can recall him but whatever he does in his capacity today as your senator is legal and must be respected. So it is partisan sagay that is a comedian

it so sad we av people like you amidst d masses ,.,d senators are definitely doing there bids and not representing the people ...we cannt respect that.
is it not funny same senate are so shameless to b seeking impunity over there corrupt acts,,, all they debate on is how to fortify themselves against the anti corruption law .... when do they discuss us.
its obvious magu will be a thorn in there flesh ...wu is partisan if not d senators ... you stand to gain nothing supporting these people yet u choose to b a fan of there jokes
Re: Senate Is Confused, It Wants To Be Co-executive With The Presidency – Sagay by SuperS1Panther: 10:21am On Jul 05, 2017
PROPHETmichael:
Acting President should know that the cabal is using Magu appointment to setup political landmines for him because if the news going round that Buhari is highly incapacitated is true, the senate will use this "executive disobedience" to send him packing after-which, Saraki will take over.

i will recommend Erdogan's treatment for the Senate.

Declare they are planning coup (whether military or civilian coup na coup), declare martial law with immediate effect, as the Commander-in-Chief round them up an lock them up.

NOTHING WILL HAPPEN.

I miss OBJ. Wallahi.

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Re: Senate Is Confused, It Wants To Be Co-executive With The Presidency – Sagay by Ahmeduana(m): 10:32am On Jul 05, 2017
WHILE THE EXECUTHIEVES WANTS TO BE CO-SENATE? WHO IS MORE CONFUSE?
Re: Senate Is Confused, It Wants To Be Co-executive With The Presidency – Sagay by OlaMiki: 10:32am On Jul 05, 2017
Ant Brain Comment below
helpee:
It is sagay himself that is confused. The Senate can't decide for executive who to nominate for a position but the executive too can't decide for the Senate who to confirm and as long as you are not confirmed as an EFCC chair, you can't hold on to the office illegally. The law envisaged a situation whereby the president may eventually nominate his wife as EFCC chair for vendetta and personal reasons so it created a check and balance via confirmation with the Senate which are representatives of the people. Once the Senate says no, it means no. If you are not happy with your senator decision you can recall him but whatever he does in his capacity today as your senator is legal and must be respected. So it is partisan sagay that is a comedian
Re: Senate Is Confused, It Wants To Be Co-executive With The Presidency – Sagay by OlaMiki: 10:35am On Jul 05, 2017
De Law, where u read your own law na, Mumu Sombori
helpee:
That is only applicable if they are yet to send his name for confirmation. This is abuse of our constitution. The constitution envisaged that some people chosen to act in some sensitive post by the executive may not be in the best interest of all that is the essence of confirmation. You can't be rejected for a substantive position and now claim to exercise same powers only in acting capacity. You yourself knows this is an aberration but i wonder when nigeria will ever be ok if we all see that this is not right but based on our partisan stand we close a blind eye. If the executive can keep people perpetually in position without confirmation by the Senate the essence of checks and balance is defeated we will never grow as a nation
Re: Senate Is Confused, It Wants To Be Co-executive With The Presidency – Sagay by xxgig(m): 10:54am On Jul 05, 2017
PeaceGord:
I hate it when after wiping my hind and ready to leave the poo house another surge of urge to poo again forces me back to poo and wipe my hind about 3 times especially peppery poo.

Pls tap the like button if you've experienced this let us exchange ideas on it.

Lol.
currently have one this very moment

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Re: Senate Is Confused, It Wants To Be Co-executive With The Presidency – Sagay by DJInfluence: 11:03am On Jul 05, 2017
wristbangle:
I wish the legislative arm of the government can be scrap. Bunch of wicked men

The guy below me, The senate also cannot sack someone appointed from the executive arm, whether in interim or permanent capacity
very true. They are nothing but a bad drainage. Costing the country so much money and delivering nothing in return.

By the way, Dino don calm down these days. person hardly hear him rant again. Water don pass garri for him head.

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