9jakool:

Yeah Lagos Yoruba is pretty much a spin off of the Standard Yoruba. If only you stayed in Epe or Ikorodu outskirts of Lagos, then you could familiarize yourself with Ijebu or Remo dialect which is very very close to Itsekiri. A fluent Ijebu speaker can probably pick up Itsekiri in a very short amount of time. Yorubas typically speak two dialects/register of the Yoruba language; the dialectal one and the standard one.

Ereolamide:


Bro, I meant they're proto-Yoruba/Igala or whatever label they now go by, the various tribes probably splited from a common source, for instancd the ugbo people(a Yoruba sub group of ondo state) have stories of origin that almost predates ile-ife/oduduwa claim, anyways let's agree to disagree.

dejavski:


some similar ilaje words:
Man: Okoro(old ilaje)/Okonren
Coconut: Kokodia
Pig: Ehi
Plate: Ahete(old ilaje)/awo
Town: Oja
Market: Obon

Talk: fo/ ofo
Sea god: Umalokun
River deity: umale and ayelala
Wealth/Fortune: Uwa

Nana: stretch
i want to rest/sleep: aji mi nana ara gboje/mo fe nana ara mi
How are u: Ko se gha?
Ilaje salutation: mo ki gha dede oma ilaje omuro...Ayemafuge!(i greet u sons and daughters of ilaje)

mo ki aghan omiwerre dede
btw...my mother's ancestral path is an Oton jibefun oh...

Efewestern:


Your points are quite valid and I cannot but agree totally with you on this. Many thanks.

bini and urhobo might not understand itsekiri language because the itsekiri language is purely yoruboid, they only borrowed some words from those tribe why maintaining their original Yoruba dialect.

if you read from the front page no body disputed the fact that itsekiri is yoruboid, even the op onuwaje who is an itsekiri man acknowledged the fact that itsekiri language is a Yoruba dialect, as for you claim about itsekiri been yoruba, I think your should respect their stance on this.

They choose to call themselves itsekiri, why not respect their decision, speaking same language and bearing same name with you don't make someone a member of your tribe.

please let's not derail this thread. thanks

Efewestern:


yes, if you read my earlier post I said almost same with ondo dialect, never mind itsekiri still remains a key branch of Yoruba language. a dialect of Yoruba.

but their identity still remains same.

ITSEKIRI.

Iphone7SPlus:


Kini wahala e?
For your info, if Itsekiri won't join Oduduwa republic, consider us in Ondo South senatorial district out.
We are joining Niger Delta republic too.

It is like you Oyo people think being Yoruba is all about you.

AworiLagosian:


This guy you are just a shameless Igbo troll pretending to be Yoruba.
That was the same way you were also trolling in that thread about Kogi Yorubas wanting to re-unite with the West.

What exactly is your problem?

Efewestern:


If you say so, but I think you should respect their decision, the op an itsekiri man acknowledged the fact that itsekiri is a dialect of Yoruba, he even said his ancestors migrated from ijebu, truth is that you can't separate itsekiri from Yoruba when it comes to language, but they choose a new identity. let us not fight over this.

@deedeee3 I doubt if you have ever met with any itsekiri man b4, see the way you they throw jab give itsekiri people, some itsekiri's are pro Yoruba have met some even Here on nairaland e. g asaimaigho is pro Yoruba, while some are pro ND, so it's left for them to decide if they want to belong to oduduwa or not

ezeagu:


Sure, some of the words are shared with Yoruba as well like Yoruba ogun (twenty) and Igbo ọgụ (twenty).

Some words that are similar here are:

Itsekiri - Igbo
ekpetin (box) - akpati
ukpo (bed) - ukpo (platform)
uko (cup) - iko
okérén (man) - okenye
okoro (man) - okoro
aféré (wind) - ufere (breeze/wind)
esin (pig) - ezi
etin (ear) - nti
tolotolo (turkey) - tolotolo

Just a little similar is Itsekiri soro (stand) and Igbo wuzo (stand)

excanny:


Sadly for you, they are. Just that their own dialect is now corrupted than mainstream Yoruba. It written all over them that over-Yoruba dey worry them.

Opiletool:

Supported

Efewestern:


If you say so, but I think you should respect their decision, the op an itsekiri man acknowledged the fact that itsekiri is a dialect of Yoruba, he even said his ancestors migrated from ijebu, truth is that you can't separate itsekiri from Yoruba when it comes to language, but they choose a new identity. let us not fight over this.

@deedeee3 I doubt if you have ever met with any itsekiri man b4, see the way you they throw jab give itsekiri people, some itsekiri's are pro Yoruba have met some even Here on nairaland e. g asaimaigho is pro Yoruba, while some are pro ND, so it's left for them to decide if they want to belong to oduduwa or not

9jakool:

Umale? Egugun? Ifa/ife? Ebora tsitse?
Are those Benin cultural practices?

Iphone7SPlus:


Kini wahala e?
For your info, if Itsekiri won't join Oduduwa republic, consider us in Ondo South senatorial district out.
We are joining Niger Delta republic too.

It is like you Oyo people think being Yoruba is all about you.

Efewestern:


onuwaje come and see this, 80% itsekiri.. I said it earlier, ondo will understand itsekiri without any problem, I can't say same for those in Lagos.

AkinPhysicist:
Yes. I have always been of the opinion that in the case of break up, the Itshekiris will do very well in a Niger-Delta Republic. The effective/mature manner the Warri crisis was eventually handled is testament to the fact the Ijaws, Urhobos and Itshekiris can work very well together IF they choose to. Although, the Ijaws might be reluctant to form a country with Bini/Edo, I think eventually both will reliance that it is in their best interest to be in the SAME country.

bedford101:
Onuwaje, bokor? Wo'winor'gba tse o'ronron utse ni' ubo'we oo, abutse reh,

Probz:
Do Itsekiri people claim origin from both Oduduwa and Ile-Ife?

onuwaje:

the reason why i place 50/50 is that most of the cultural practices may sound Yoruba but they have huge Benin influence. tho i am not a traditional practitioner. but what i know is this

1. Ogiame is a Benin word (King of waters)
2. Ediaken is a Benin word but we the Itsekiris call it Daniken.

like i have always said. Itsekiris are a tribe of hybrid Origin some were formed by Benin others by Yoruba which merged so nt every one is entirely yoruba when it comes to cultural practice.

Efewestern:


I don't understand itsekiri o, but if you want to know some urhobo words that's similar to itseke I can help you out.



Ésété (plate) in urhobo it's o'sete same meaning, Ukujéré (spoon) same in urhobo , uda (sword/cutlass) in urhobo it's oda which means cutlass .


simply put, itsekiri is a mixture of Yoruba and urhobo /edo, although 70% of the language are Yoruba words.

darediamond:

Itsekiri people are Yoruba's.

onuwaje:

yea they do. i have an ilaje friend and we understand each other very well. and also there is anoda Yoruba bros from Ugbonla in Ondo state i also understand him.

the Ondo riverine Yorubas can easily mix into Itsekiri well.lol

bakynes:
When the Map of Oduduwa included Warri the home of Itsekiris some people called us Yoruba land grabbers, can we now see that Map is correct and is in line.

Unlike the Igbos who include the whole of Delta and Kogi as Biafra. Do they want to include Okun people of Kabba in Kogi and Itsekiri people of Warri land in Delta state.

The Map of Oduduwa Republic brings all people of Oduduwa ancestry together as one Nation while Biafra brings different people of different ancestry together which is another blooming disaster like that of Nigeria.

That's why the presence of OPC is very strong in Warri.

I boarded a Bus from PH to Lagos, the driver was speaking a language like Yoruba I thought he was all this Akoko- Ondo Yoruba and was talking to him not knowing he was an Itsekiri man.

Opiletool:


Bini itself has Yoruba influence. They worship Okun (whom was the first wife of oduduwa that was later deified, a common practise in the Yoruba land, I.e osun, oba, osa, oya, are all women deified by naming a river or stream or ocean after each of them). I think they also worship esu, who also was a Yoruba man back then. I stand to be corrected.

Pylony:
chaii oga u wan put me for hot seat abi.