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Re: A Rejoinder On Why I Left Christ Embassy Church By Marchman by greatman247(m): 2:10pm On Jul 09, 2017
Op, I can attest to that part which says CE don't care about where you get the money from and demand for money excessively. When I was in school, some foolish student were ask to pay like 50k while they've not even pay their school fees. Then owu dey blow student yet foolish ones will go all out to get this money, give to Church and not pay up their school fees thinking once they pay in church miracle will happen in class. School authority chased most of them out of class when they couldn't pay their fees and most of them had extra years because of their foolishness.

Op you talked about that guy judging and criticising your pastor according to the scripture right? But you are also doing the same thing to the guy. In my thinking, if you are Godly like you claimed you should have let the matter slide not come here to defend your pastor and knock the guy on the points he made. You should have allow God to be the judge not you. You are just as guilty as the guy. Everyone is a sinner, simple.

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Re: A Rejoinder On Why I Left Christ Embassy Church By Marchman by itsmeurLady(f): 2:11pm On Jul 09, 2017
Now I want to ask just a simple question, were the other churches taught in their respective churches to criticize/condemn any church? If the answer is No, you are guilty then for judging and if the answer is Yes, you shld leave that church. Jesus sed let him that is without sin be the first person to cast the stone... Hypocrisy Everywhere!!! Who are you to Judge/Criticize And u say u are CHristlike A Christian God help our Generation
Re: A Rejoinder On Why I Left Christ Embassy Church By Marchman by Ever8054: 2:12pm On Jul 09, 2017
zionmade:

Yes open ur Bible and show me why it is a sin to fry head?
show us where it is written in the bible that men of God should fry there hair...
Re: A Rejoinder On Why I Left Christ Embassy Church By Marchman by kentur: 2:16pm On Jul 09, 2017
You ended up proving nothing. Instead you validated the points he raised earlier. OP check yourself very well .Don't be among the crowd. there's still time to make amends

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Re: A Rejoinder On Why I Left Christ Embassy Church By Marchman by Deapexboy(m): 2:17pm On Jul 09, 2017
zionmade:

Drinking beer is not a sin. as long as u don't drink it to a level where u start damaging ur body which was supposed to be an instrument for God to use
and ur body is not d temple of God? Tel me ur cell leaders u c as born again also use their open body as instrucment for God?

Weda CE is good or bad church i don't care but ur dressing especialy the gals is distracting....person way hold leaf na im goat dy follow. Peace bro

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Re: A Rejoinder On Why I Left Christ Embassy Church By Marchman by Nobody: 2:17pm On Jul 09, 2017
AntiWailer:
I can just see an over zealous brother that will soon write is own re-rejoinder soon when his eyes clear.


...wow, your sinature na bomb oh...
Re: A Rejoinder On Why I Left Christ Embassy Church By Marchman by Handsomecole(m): 2:17pm On Jul 09, 2017
OP is just talking nonsense. CHRISTMAS EMBASSY IS JUST NOTHING BUT A SOCIAL GATHERING NOTHING SERIOUS ABOUT IT.

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Re: A Rejoinder On Why I Left Christ Embassy Church By Marchman by Nobody: 2:19pm On Jul 09, 2017
Handsomecole:
OP is just talking nonsense. CHRISTMAS EMBASSY IS JUST NOTHING BUT A SOCIAL GATHERING NOTHING SERIOUS ABOUT IT.

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Re: A Rejoinder On Why I Left Christ Embassy Church By Marchman by zionmade(m): 2:21pm On Jul 09, 2017
Deapexboy:

and ur body is not d temple of God? Tel me ur cell leaders u c as born again also use their open body as instrucment for God?

Weda CE is good or bad church i don't care but ur dressing especialy the gals is distracting....person way hold leaf na im goat dy follow. Peace bro
Deapexboy:

and ur body is not d temple of God? Tel me ur cell leaders u c as born again also use their open body as instrucment for God?

Weda CE is good or bad church i don't care but ur dressing especialy the gals is distracting....person way hold leaf na im goat dy follow. Peace bro
And Wat of ur church girls that cover up and down to church and go naked on other days, or is it that all the girls dat dress indecently are all CE girls or they don't have churches
Re: A Rejoinder On Why I Left Christ Embassy Church By Marchman by youngpresidooo: 2:21pm On Jul 09, 2017
PointZerom:


That's why CE is nothing but a glorified CLUB where immorality reigns supreme.
Sag your trouser to work let them clap for you.
the only reply I have for you is in roman 10:1-4 ain't a ce member
Re: A Rejoinder On Why I Left Christ Embassy Church By Marchman by Great4God: 2:22pm On Jul 09, 2017
Christianity and holiness is an individual thing, We should not try to defend our religious affiliation just because we have to. @ OP, you can agree with me that some of the things the initial poster wrote was the truth,there are certain practices that are very unchristian that they portray. I remembered while in the university, where they usually have one of thier cell meetings around where I was living, the so called pastor or what they call him was living in the same room with the girl friend then,so how can you justify such, and what baffles me then was that they still have the boldness to be inviting me to that same cell meeting, I just kept wondering. Churches build thier doctrines in different ideology but you can also agree with me that CE does not emphasize so much on holiness

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Re: A Rejoinder On Why I Left Christ Embassy Church By Marchman by zionmade(m): 2:22pm On Jul 09, 2017
Ever8054:
show us where it is written in the bible that men of God should fry there hair...
wen u first show me from the Bible where it was written u shud comment on NL or use a phone
Re: A Rejoinder On Why I Left Christ Embassy Church By Marchman by zionmade(m): 2:23pm On Jul 09, 2017
dbynonetwork:

Open your Bible to show us were bleaching is a sin?.
Is it a sin? if yes I will be interested to also know from u where it is written
Re: A Rejoinder On Why I Left Christ Embassy Church By Marchman by dbynonetwork: 2:24pm On Jul 09, 2017
maxxy:


God's standard for sin is not according to the dictates of man. You dont like sagging... I don't like sagging. .. in fact, I detest it. But does that make it a sin? No Sir. Sin is what the Word of God says it is... not what you or I think.

Bro as a Christian u don't have to conform yourself to the things of these world... The Bible might not mention them but you and I know that it could distract us from making heaven...
For example watching of football match might not be a sin but allowing it to affect evangelism and your time to worship God could make you miss HEAVEN..... now you see that anything whatsoever make u miss heaven is a sin..

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Re: A Rejoinder On Why I Left Christ Embassy Church By Marchman by buragidi(m): 2:25pm On Jul 09, 2017
As man thinketh in his heart, so he is and the Bible says from their fruit, we shall see them. Where a lady displays nudity, she is sending a message to the society. As a matter of fact, a lady that displays nudity will easily fornicate, giving the right place and condition. She is a target for promiscuity and she naturally draws attention and pressure. In the first instance, why are you advertising what you are not selling? How come that you can not tell the difference between a prostitute on the street and a 'holy' sister in the church?. The way you are dressed determines the way you are addressed. Are you aware that through your dressing, you can lead others to sin?. I have read people saying that they only visit CE when they are looking for a girl to 4ck. What does that tell you about the image of the church?. A popular advert in those days say 'image is everything'
zionmade:

Mr judge.
Wat's the difference between a lady that dresses nude and fornicates and lady that covers up and down to church and still fornicates.
Wat's d difference between the lady that dresses nude to church and the one that covers up and down in church and dresses nude to parties.
A life of pretence kills.
If I father a daughter I will prefer she displays all her indecency and wildness in my presence so I will know how to admonish and pray for her dan to pretend wen she sees me and live in immorality wen she thinks am not seeing her.
take that judgement to ur church and tell me that not a single lady there dresses indecently outside the church maybe for birthday parties or even in the campus.
Mr Judge there are indecent ladies in all the churches, I have a deeperlife female friend and I know Wat am saying. the only difference between CE and most Other self acclaimed holy holy Churches is the word "pretence". When I met my ex she was a Methodist a church where u cover head to toe,

I will encourage u to write God and application to help him on the judgement day

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Re: A Rejoinder On Why I Left Christ Embassy Church By Marchman by zionmade(m): 2:26pm On Jul 09, 2017
obyrich:
That's good. I would love to hear you preach this from the pulpit.
Are u a dummy? if u know a single thing at least u wud have proved to me dat I am wrong. but am not surprised most people who rush to condemn know nothing in the bible
Re: A Rejoinder On Why I Left Christ Embassy Church By Marchman by Homguy(m): 2:27pm On Jul 09, 2017
jared007:
https://www.nairaland.com/3895448/why-left-christ-embassy-church

And a man's foes shall be they of his own household (Matt 10: 36)

As a believer in Christ I was tempted to ignore Marchman but I had to write this reply to encourage Christ Embassy members especially the 'children' in particular and true Christians of different denominations in general.

Now concerning Marchman, going through his previous threads on Nairaland and the titled thread on why he left Christ Embassy i concluded he was never a true member of Christ Embassy or a christian but a Wolf among the Sheep. No true Christian goes to the media to write lies against his biological family, local church or other churches no matter how offended he is. This is why Muslims are more United than Christians.

Now to counter some points he made which I quoted in bold. For example he typed "They tend to believe literally that everything answers to money

It is written in Ecclesiastes 10:19 A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all things.
Yes money answers everything. You need to read publications and messages on seed faith. Am not ignorant of the fact that some of our leaders might be over zealous in trying to hit a target by tasking someone to give but never have i been forced by my leaders against my will to give.
Christ Embassy projects are of high quality and numerous in reaching the unsaved and inspiring right living and they aren't cheap. I believe Donnie and Joagbaje can assist with images of our numerous programmes and projects.

"You are also charged to give for Pastor Chris birthday

The trash you wrote up there could only be written by a selfish man because according to the following verse of scriptures:
Gal 6: 6-10 Let him that is taught in the word communicate unto him that teacheth in all good things. Be not deceived; God is not mocked : for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting. And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not. As we have therefore opportunity, let us do good unto all men, especially unto them who are of the household of faith.

The only time we are opportune to sow into Pastor Chris anointing is during his birthday which is just once in a year. Marchman pls tell me how else we can honour or communicate to our pastor?

"The church is obsessed with money. They do not mind how or where you get it"

Yea we are obsessed with money because of numerous projects that must be done before Jesus returns to rapture us. Why shouldn't we use money to serve God well now when it will be useless when we leave this earth? CE is interested in the job you do and ur financial abilities so your belief that we don't mind how we raise the money exist in your own imagination. I can't remember Jesus asking those Jews who were giving in the Temple where they got their money from. He didn't ask the widow too who gave her mites. Marchman u need to be cured of ur poverty mentality.

"Sin means nothing at Christ Embassy"

I don't know where you got this belief from because CE always frowns at any member that sins including an open rebuke. Some of our members that were caught in the act of fornication were excommuincated from the rest of the brethren and were told to sit at the back of the the church for each service till restitution. I ve witnessed this more then once. Scriptural readings from 1cor 5: 9-13 are read to the erring members.

Pastor Chris talks about sin, righteousness, heaven and hell but you don't know because you thought it's only Sunday services Pastor preaches to us. Pastor preaches to us everyday through Rhapsody of realities, tapes, cds, vcds, dvds, mp3 and software platforms.
When you lay much emphasis telling people not to sin that's when they will sin the more because it's the nature of man to sin when you tell him not to. Rom 7:15-20.

Saying Pastor Chris was accussed of fornication without any proof or evidence I won't bother to reply you on that.

"Pastor Chris is the orthodoxy"

According to 1st Cor 11:1 it says Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.
So what's wrong if we always make reference to him and follow him?

You said "No one can challenge Pastor Chris." How can you challenge him? Where you the one that called him? He answers to the one that called him and only God shall reward or judge him not you.

You also said "He tries to change verse of scriptures by rewriting them?

You are filled with hatred because Pastor only lays emphasis on the original bible manuscripts which was written in Hebrew and Greek. How many study bibles have you read in your life? How many times have you even read your king James from back to back? Let your heart judge you.

As for your other rambling that I haven't countered I leave them for other Christ Embassy members to take care of.

Cc Joagbaje, Donnie, Gombs, Zionmade pls ur input is needed to encourage those children in Christ that might have gotten discouraged in serving God because of Marchman.
This is a poor effort at damage control. I know at least two people who left CE and had similar experience as March man. They were drained totally, forced to buy Rhapsodies of realities, talked about sec and how fornication was rampant in the fellowship. You will wake up soon.

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Re: A Rejoinder On Why I Left Christ Embassy Church By Marchman by oweniwe(m): 2:28pm On Jul 09, 2017
jared007:


....

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Christ embassy did fake miracle on me ... Fake healing miracle....

My bro died after Pastor Chris wrecked him ..

If Pastor Anita can see all that and leave ... You're a very big phool and stupid!d for defending the church.

The earlier you leave ... The better for you

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Re: A Rejoinder On Why I Left Christ Embassy Church By Marchman by zionmade(m): 2:28pm On Jul 09, 2017
Ever8054:
gbam !!! fornication and adultery is also after effect of frying head..(to attract fine girls in the congratulation) Anita confirmed it as the basis of her divorce to pastor Chris..
fornication is also an after effect of eating banana or popcorn. so Mr judge start from urself. Also lies and evil are after effect of going after money at least I have given u one reason to die in poverty
Re: A Rejoinder On Why I Left Christ Embassy Church By Marchman by Teespice(f): 2:28pm On Jul 09, 2017
your rebuttal aligns with most of the submissions of the previous op.
anyhoo, you shot yourself at the foot.

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Re: A Rejoinder On Why I Left Christ Embassy Church By Marchman by ChiefSweetus: 2:29pm On Jul 09, 2017
All dis argument defending person wey no send no be my business.

My own is any BL babe reading this should PM me cos I hear say una dey share pass Teddy Sheringham & Alan Shearer together. kiss
Re: A Rejoinder On Why I Left Christ Embassy Church By Marchman by lakeside3020(m): 2:30pm On Jul 09, 2017
So many thanks to you OP for this rejoinder,initially I read the trade by marchman,majority of is write up were not true,basically he went to Christ embassy for another thing entirely and not to seek God

A true Christian don't come to social to critizes the church or she goes to or have gone before,or the pastor what message are u trying to pass to the new convert who intend to join the church

I joined believers loveword in the university days,I have attended so many program at the church in any of those programmes I never heard where the church encourage people to sin

Everybody shall of necessity reaped all that was sown by insividual

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Re: A Rejoinder On Why I Left Christ Embassy Church By Marchman by dbynonetwork: 2:32pm On Jul 09, 2017
zionmade:

Is it a sin?
if yes I will be interested to also know from u where it is written
I asked and I need an answer....
From your previous post it seems Christians are free to practice vices not listed in the Bible...
Re: A Rejoinder On Why I Left Christ Embassy Church By Marchman by Deapexboy(m): 2:32pm On Jul 09, 2017
zionmade:


And Wat of ur church girls that cover up and down to church and go naked on other days, or is it that all the girls dat dress indecently are all CE girls or they don't have churches

my brother no b e-war we dy
why not smoke weed in church since it beta dat way than smoking at home since op u don't respect the hux of God..op normaly there is sumtin u don't do in public, some dressing is nt good 4 public view

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Re: A Rejoinder On Why I Left Christ Embassy Church By Marchman by zionmade(m): 2:32pm On Jul 09, 2017
oweniwe:


Christ embassy did fake miracle on me ... Fake healing miracle....

My bro died after Pastor Chris wrecked him ..

If Pastor Anita can see all that and leave ... You're a very big phool and stupid!d for defending the church.

The earlier you leave ... The better for you
And she was leaving she didn't care to carry her kids along abi? Mr counsellor. And tomorrow u will deceive urself that u want to praise God and start singing Sinach, eben or samsong's songs. HYPOCRITE, that's Wat u re. Yes people will leave CE but for every soul that goes a hundred will join, that is a mark of Mimshak annointing

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Re: A Rejoinder On Why I Left Christ Embassy Church By Marchman by Modsenemy(f): 2:33pm On Jul 09, 2017
zionmade:

Yes I also want to know where the Bible said sagging is a sin. I guess u re too carnally minded to think dat everything that is indecent in the eyes of man is a sin
What about where The bible spoke against smoking undecided?
Re: A Rejoinder On Why I Left Christ Embassy Church By Marchman by AntiWailer: 2:34pm On Jul 09, 2017
DavidLoves:



...wow, your sinature na bomb oh...

lol.

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Re: A Rejoinder On Why I Left Christ Embassy Church By Marchman by zionmade(m): 2:35pm On Jul 09, 2017
dbynonetwork:

I asked and I need an answer....
From your previous post it seems Christians are free to practice vices not listed in the Bible...
my friend if u call something a sin, prove it and stop being a dummy. if u know Wat to say den shut up till u get one
Re: A Rejoinder On Why I Left Christ Embassy Church By Marchman by Deapexboy(m): 2:35pm On Jul 09, 2017
dbynonetwork:

I asked and I need an answer....
From your previous post it seems Christians are free to practice vices not listed in the Bible...
don't mind him
Re: A Rejoinder On Why I Left Christ Embassy Church By Marchman by Sonoyom(m): 2:35pm On Jul 09, 2017
Mixed multitude
Re: A Rejoinder On Why I Left Christ Embassy Church By Marchman by FromZeroToHero(m): 2:36pm On Jul 09, 2017
What worries me is the way they speak in tongues. They came to my shop to pray with me before i know it they all started speaking in tongues even a little boy of about 4yrs without any line of prayer or prayer point.

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Re: A Rejoinder On Why I Left Christ Embassy Church By Marchman by zionmade(m): 2:36pm On Jul 09, 2017
Modsenemy:
What about where The bible spoke against smoking undecided?
It will be interesting if u show me the place because I dnt know

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