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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by obeauty21: 12:24am On Jul 10, 2017 |
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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by Emexnairaland(m): 2:03pm On Jul 10, 2017 |
Finally I was refused entry clearance by ECO saying that I am not a genuine student under sub paragraph K of 245ZV. Reasons for the refusal are that, taking into consideration my gap studies (my last study date 2012) and vague answers during my interview. I was giving chance for admin review. But honestly I strongly believe that the ECO decision was unjust because I submitted evidence of my employment reference letter where I have worked and CV that showed my activities since my last date of study. I also explained it to her during the interview On the note of vague answer giving in my interview,Entry Clearance Assistant gave me an impromptu call for a second interview even while I was in an unfavorable environment I didn't actually know what the ECO wanted to hear from me but I am very sure I spoke clear and fast that she asked me to slow my pace while speaking so that she could type my statements. She further mentioned that the AC and noisy background of hers was producing echo. At the end of the interview she acted to have been satisfied with my answers. But at the end I was refused. School was disappointed to see that as an excuse to refuse me but also classfied it under refusal because of credibility, therefore will not give me a second CAS unless I choose to go for admin review and is successful and that they won't get involve in the admin review. This is really a sad feeling and frustrating I was given a chance for admin review in my refusal letter, but the worry now is that admin review takes time to be processed, I might even miss out September intake If I choose to go for the review due to the delay in AR. I HAVE ALREADY PUT UP A GOOD WRITE UP AGAINST ECO DECISION TO REFUSE ME ENTRY. Please Justwise, Ekpotek, other gurus in this forum I need your urgent advice. I feel very sad about it for it has really retarded my career plan. |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by Question1: 3:03pm On Jul 10, 2017 |
Emexnairaland: This is strange and I feel for you bro! But I thought you had planned on withdrawing your application earlier. BTW The stated reasons for the Refusal are just too flimsy and ingenuine as the ECO knew that your last date of enrolment has passed. As much as i can remember the AR are sometimes less or greater than 21 days before you get the result. However,I'll advice you to present a fresh application for September. Let your UNi know the circumstances surrounding the refusal that it all boils down to the passed enrollment date and that you would like them to issue you a new CAS. And apply early. And Pray. I'll also put you in my prayer. Take heart. And rise again. 1 Like |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by Emexnairaland(m): 3:43pm On Jul 10, 2017 |
Thanks so much, school said they won't issue me another CAS unless the AR is successful. Question1: |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by Mzstephh(f): 4:25pm On Jul 10, 2017 |
Hello sorry about that, that is totally unfair not even considering any factor ( visa fee, uni start date etc). I just checked online and it says the administrative review takes 28 calendar working days from the day you apply. Please check this link properly from page 85 https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/623341/T4_Migrant_Guidance_29_June_2017.pdf I also read online that you cannot add any further supporting document too, so I am not sure if you can add a letter. Apply ASAP and if possible fast and pray on this because it certainly doesn't make sense why they would just give flimsy excuses for no reason. Good luck bro, Emexnairaland: 1 Like |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by Question1: 4:40pm On Jul 10, 2017 |
Mzstephh: Exactly bro. Re-application is the best at this delicate time. Just be sober with the School because you have come this far with them. They should be willing to issue a new CAS. And about your school let them know the issue was with the the DATE of enrollment. and no harm from your part of the application. They should just issue a new CAS jare 1 Like |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by Mzstephh(f): 4:47pm On Jul 10, 2017 |
lol oga I'm a lady o.. ![]() Question1: |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by spikesC(m): 4:48pm On Jul 10, 2017 |
Vicrown: Home office has no business with where you'll be staying. The Maintenance Fund is also for your accommodation and they know this. The £0 on the CAS just means that the university did not provide accommodation for you, therefore there's no deduction. If you're asked during the interview where you'll be staying, just say you'll rent privately close to the campus. 1 Like |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by Question1: 5:12pm On Jul 10, 2017 |
Mzstephh:Biko no vex for me ma. 1 Like |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by Question1: 5:16pm On Jul 10, 2017 |
Are people not going to the UK this September, this room just dry. Abi na the exchange rate dey drive people away? lol |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by Question1: 5:17pm On Jul 10, 2017 |
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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by MrsDaniels(f): 6:40pm On Jul 10, 2017 |
@Justwise please how much is tier 4 dependant visa fee if applying from Nigeria. pls i need urgent answer. |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by xpizzy(m): 7:04pm On Jul 10, 2017 |
So sorry about your refusal after the long wait. You can post your refusal notes so that you can be advised on how to respond to all the points raised. Your AR needs to have strong defense points to increase your success chance. Good luck bro Emexnairaland: 1 Like |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by mimilyrics: 8:27pm On Jul 10, 2017 |
Hi Justwise and everyone. I'd be renting accommodation close to school but I've been looking at properties with tenancy should start from Sept 1. I'll be staying with a friend from late August when I arrive till Sept 1st when tenancy ought to start but further search, payment and paperwork will be done on my arrival. Is it okay to input my friend's address(my temporary address for about 1-2 weeks) or the school address? Thank you. |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by MrsDaniels(f): 8:54pm On Jul 10, 2017 |
my dear input ur sch address. Thats the best option for you. Cheers mate! mimilyrics: 1 Like |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by Question1: 8:56pm On Jul 10, 2017 |
mimilyrics: Your school address is safer. Please when are you resuming, and have you gotten your visa? |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by justwise(m): 9:14pm On Jul 10, 2017 |
Emexnairaland: If the main reason for the refusal is the gap as you pointed out then go for the AR but don't be in a hurry to submit it without going over it again and again. You need focus on things you were doing during that period of gap, that is very important. If you submit that before the ending of this month you still have a great deal of time to meet up Sept school opening. You don't need any help from your school for AR and you don't need to add any other document just that letter of explanation/argument against ECO's decision. Take each refusal point and address it in a paragraph 1 Like |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by justwise(m): 9:16pm On Jul 10, 2017 |
MrsDaniels: Check the British embassy website or Homeoffice immigration website |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by justwise(m): 9:17pm On Jul 10, 2017 |
mimilyrics: Use your school international centre as your address fro now |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by mimilyrics: 9:29pm On Jul 10, 2017 |
Thank you. MrsDaniels: |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by mimilyrics: 9:31pm On Jul 10, 2017 |
Okay. Thank you. Sept 16. I'm submitting my application this week. Had to get an updated letter from my sponsor. Question1: |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by mimilyrics: 9:34pm On Jul 10, 2017 |
Okay. Thank you so much. Do I need to let them(the school/staff at the IC) know I'm inputting their detail or just fill in? Pardon my many questions Biko.... justwise: |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by Question1: 9:39pm On Jul 10, 2017 |
mimilyrics: Okay. All the best dear. |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by MrsDaniels(f): 9:48pm On Jul 10, 2017 |
Thanks love....been a while how ve u been @Justwise? how u enjoying this summer weather. Regards dear. justwise: |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by Emexnairaland(m): 11:54pm On Jul 10, 2017 |
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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by Emexnairaland(m): 12:09am On Jul 11, 2017 |
I Just posted the refusal letter, thanks xpizzy: |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by Nobody: 8:30am On Jul 11, 2017 |
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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by teejay21111: 9:17am On Jul 11, 2017 |
Vicrown: Please just fill the application appropriately, you don't need to mention any friend. I was paid an upfront on my first day in the UK too and registration takes less than an hour to complete. No worries, you will get your visa. Cheers! |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by xpizzy(m): 10:29am On Jul 11, 2017 |
My thoughts on this issue are highlighted below but let me issue a disclaimer that I am not a subject matter expert. To start with, the reason for your refusal can be likened to the proverbial saying of giving a dog a bad name just so we can kill it. The term "genuine" as used by the UKBA is more vague than the "vague answers" they claimed against you. Having said that, I want to implore you to consider the options available to you before taking any decision. I discuss this options below. Option 1 This option is going through the AR process and giving very strong defense points. However, the ECM rarely overturns decisions that were refused based on "genuine student". If the outcome of your AR is negative, don't despair there is a last resort that a lot of students don't explore. It is called a Judicial Review and you would need the services of a UK based solicitor. Your refusal would most likely be upturned because of the famous case of Adnan Mushtaq in 2015 see https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/42073-pakistani-student-wins-right-to-enter-uk-for-studies An ECO had refused Mushtaq on the basis of not being a genuine student but after a Judicial Review, the judge upturned the decision and awarded costs against the home office. Another benefit of the JR is that your solicitor would first send the Home office a pre action notice, giving them 14 days to change their decision or face legal action. Most times the decision would be reversed as the treasury solicitor who represents the home office would review the case and deem it sensible to avoid litigation. If however the Home office decides to go to trial, the JR could be a lengthy and costly (between 500-2000£) process but you'd surely prevail. Option 2 Shop for another school if Ulster won't issue you a fresh CAS and ensure you address the issue by preparing better for the interview. My 2 cents Emexnairaland: 3 Likes |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by Emexnairaland(m): 12:16pm On Jul 11, 2017 |
Thanks so much xpizzy: |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by Vicrown(m): 12:54pm On Jul 11, 2017 |
Please house, I just discovered that my school made a mistake on my CAS by adding an additional figure to my passport number. Is it true that they cannot change it even though am yet to apply for a visa? |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by bennyjiks: 1:23pm On Jul 11, 2017 |
Hello House, Please do I need to include my original university transcript with my visa application? I have my degree certificate but do not have an original copy of my official transcript. Hope this will not be a problem when I apply. |
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