How about other animals? Do they also possess souls? Do they also have specific frequencies? Like I have heard that dogs are able to see beings from other dimensions. Does that mean dogs vibrate at higher frequencies than humans?

Lastly, how is it that devices like cameras and televisions are better than the ordinary human eye in occasionally capturing these inter-dimensional entities? Are these devices able to vibrate at a higher frequency?

Cc
Billyonaire

Cooop:
How about other animals? Do they also possess souls? Do they also have specific frequencies? Like I have heard that dogs are able to see beings from other dimensions. Does that mean dogs vibrate at higher frequencies than humans?

Lastly, how is it that devices like cameras and televisions are better than the ordinary human eye in occasionally capturing these inter-dimensional entities? Are these devices able to vibrate at a higher frequency?

Cc
Billyonaire

They do not possess souls, they are Souls experiencing life in such life-forms, there are specific lessons required by soul which demand that they reside in such life forms. There are different archetypes of souls. So different entities and beings are embodiment of different archetypes.

Dogs and other animals have extra-senses that perceives energy/matter beyond the UV spectrum of light. There are atleast 24 colors in nature but our vision accommodates just 7 colors. Dogs and few other animals see beyond our mix of electromagnetic band of energy to other dimensions. They do not have to raise their vibration or lower it, they are by default able to visually accommodate different dimensions outside our limited vision.

I am not aware of any mechanical device capable of 'seeing' other dimensional entities. But I know some devices can 'detect' energies within the 'dark' energy spectrum. The scientists, if they were not negligent are supposed to study the reason behind paranormal events and establish that there is something beyond the physicality which affects physicality.

Do not look at the world as spiritual being invisible and physical being visible. It is not truly so in the real sense. Microscopic animals are physical yet we can not see. And Physicality has more to do with what can be physically perceived, but spirituality has to be what can not be physically perceived, not because they are 'esoteric' but because the molecular components of their physicality are too tiny to be accommodated by our limited physical sense of sight.

Around us daily are beings and things we can not see physically, they share space with us. There are not out there, they are here with us but on wavelengths and frequencies that our limited five senses can not perceive. Until when we are in Soul-Mode, can we perceive those spectrum, because soul has capabilities beyond any physical senses and can see, hear, feel so much more than we can ever imagine physically. It can download, upload and process data of 1000 lifetimes in a nano-second, our brain does not have the capacity to process such information, that is why Amnesia comes into play. We MUST forget, in order to function here.

[quote author=Cooop post=58333388]Ifenes, thank you for your response. Your answers were satisfying but they raised more questions.

Are these beings from other dimensions able influence our reality? Like entities that hunt houses and make themselves visible to humans living in those houses? Do they have the power to make humans see them?

We are creators of what we experience. Due to movies, indoctrinations, cultural beliefs we shape a world where it is possible for external beings to influence our lives. Hence as we grow up in the belief that we can be influenced, we therefore create a world where such stuff can happen. Don't forget we may all be on this planet but we experience different realities based on belief system we buy into. Songo cannot hurt someone who doesn't believe in Songo. For it to hunt or interact with you there must be a fearful belief about it in us. What we truly believe in is what we experience.

How about other animals? Do they also possess souls? Do they also have specific frequencies? Like I have heard that dogs are able to see beings from other dimensions. Does that mean dogs vibrate at higher frequencies than humans?

Animals are amazing life forms. They are terrestrial and yet alien to us. They ain't even humanoids at all. They are life forms we should appreciate and learn from. like the Dolphins, the dog vibrates at higher frequencies or we can say in a lame mans language, they are connected to the spirit level due to the simple ways of life. The dog eats, sleeps and has no complicated life. Same as other animal.

Buddha had to get rid of all the complication of life to become in tune with his true self. He noticed that what we kill ourselves for e.g money, clothings... All keep us in the material world. Animals don't have these problems, they are naturally intune and light years ahead of us humans.

Lastly, how is it that devices like cameras and televisions are better than the ordinary human eye in capturing these inter-dimensional entities? Are these devices able to vibrate at a higher frequency.

Funny enough police of today make use of sniffer dogs to detect crime or drugs because they cannot yet come up with technology that can do that. It's easy to use a dog because they are man's friend and are very honest.

The dog cannot communicate so has no ability to say what it sees. But to your question, technology I believe can bridge the gap as man digresses into pure materialism. I cannot say much about the cameras now, I will have to look into it and share my findings with you later

Have a good day

ifenes:

Thanks

Billyonaire:


The do not possess souls, they are Souls experiencing life in such life-forms, there are specific lessons required by soul which demand that they reside in such life forms. There are different archetypes of souls. So different entities and beings are embodiment of different archetypes.

Dogs and other animals have extra-senses that perceives energy/matter beyond the UV spectrum of light. There are atleast 24 colors in nature but our vision accommodates just 7 colors. Dogs and few other animals see beyond our mix of electromagnetic band of energy to other dimensions. They do not have to raise their vibration or lower it, they are by default able to visually accommodate different dimensions outside our limited vision.

I am not aware of any mechanical device capable of 'seeing' other dimensional entities. But I know some devices can 'detect' energies within the 'dark' energy spectrum. The scientists, if they were not negligent are supposed to study the reason behind paranormal events and establish that there is something beyond the physicality which affects physicality.

Do not look at the world as spiritual being invisible and physical being visible. It is not truly so in the real sense. Microscopic animals are physical yet we can not see. And Physicality has more to do with what can be physically perceived, but spirituality has to be what can not be physically perceived, not because they are 'esoteric' but because the molecular components of their physicality are too tiny to be accommodated by our limited physical sense of sight.

Around us daily are beings and things we can not see physically, they share space with us. There are not out there, they are here with us but on wavelengths and frequencies that our limited five senses can not perceive. Until when we are in Soul-Mode, can we perceive those spectrum, because soul has capabilities beyond any physical senses and can see, hear, feel so much more than we can ever imagine physically. It can download, upload and process data of 1000 lifetimes in a nano-second, our brain does not have the capacity to process such information, that is why Amnesia comes into play. We MUST forget, in order to function here.

Thanks.

Cooop:


Thanks.

You are, as always, welcomed.

Cooop:


7. I haven't activated my third eye and I haven't raised my frequency above the 3rd dimension, but I plan to. I have heard cases of people who have activated their pineal gland and witnessed entities that were very terrifying. Could you give me some advice on how to prepare myself and overcome fear?

When you seek to activate your inner vision, the so-called “third eye” or the “rending of the veil” it is important to understand that you do not exist outside of yourself. You do not suddenly become a highly spiritual entity simply because you have activated the Pineal Gland, if you were a swindler, a cheat and a thief, you will simply become a better variation of what you are. Preparation is key, that is why in the old days mystical orders ensured a long period of introspection and meditative contemplation was embarked on to ensure that the practitioner was spiritually mature enough to withstand the rigours of opening the third eye. It is those who have not gone through a period of spiritual cleansing prior who then go on to become victims of their own spiritual hallucinations.

Again, preparation is key, one has to learn how to control one’s visionary experiences before opening the third eye, not after, but most of all if you seek spiritual enlightenment through the opening of the third eye, then the order of the openings of all the Chakras culminating in the Crown Chakra is paramount. If not done properly then you end up in a sort of spiritual limbo with ill-defined abilities and the propensity to lose your sanity. Good Luck.

@Sarassin, thanks for you input and advice. I really appreciate.

Cooop:
@Sarassin, thanks for you input and advice. I really appreciate.

Most welcome.

I really understand that you guys have businesses to attend to and my persistent questions could be interrupting your various activities, but please just spare me some of your time to answer these last set of questions.

1. What happens when people die? Is the religious mainstream notion of hell and heaven true? Does hell and heaven exist in the 4th dimension?

2. Please give me a brief summary of what reincarnation is all about. Does the soul of every being in the universe reincarnate? Could a soul experience life times as various entities, like animals and even demons and ETs?

3. What exactly are ghosts and why are some malign?

4. What's the most effective way to protect myself from being manipulated or harmed by beings in other dimensions and people who have achieved a higher level of consciousness, like witches or shamans?

Cc
Billyonaire
Ifenes
Sarassin.

Sarassin:


When you seek to activate your inner vision, the so-called “third eye” or the “rending of the veil” it is important to understand that you do not exist outside of yourself. You do not suddenly become a highly spiritual entity simply because you have activated the Pineal Gland, if you were a swindler, a cheat and a thief, you will simply become a better variation of what you are. Preparation is key, that is why in the old days mystical orders ensured a long period of introspection and meditative contemplation was embarked on to ensure that the practitioner was spiritually mature enough to withstand the rigours of opening the third eye. It is those who have not gone through a period of spiritual cleansing prior who then go on to become victims of their own spiritual hallucinations.

Again, preparation is key, one has to learn how to control one’s visionary experiences before opening the third eye, not after, but most of all if you seek spiritual enlightenment through the opening of the third eye, then the order of the openings of all the Chakras culminating in the Crown Chakra is paramount. If not done properly then you end up in a sort of spiritual limbo with ill-defined abilities and the propensity to lose your sanity. Good Luck.

Great piece of advice.

Cooop:
I became an atheist about a year ago, but since then my convictions about truth and the nature of reality has changed drastically. Now I don't define myself as an atheist anymore. I don't believe that the God most religions claim to be God is God. But I do have my own definition of God, and that is that God is the divine source of all life that exist in the universe. And all life that emerged from the source is God.
Also, unlike typical atheists, I don't discount the existence of the "supernatural." I believe the "supernatural" exists and it is comprised of other dimensions outside the 3rd dimension in which humans physically exist, and I believe that there are other beings that exist in these other dimensions. Some are benign while others are evil. I also believe that we have the power to see these beings and mingle with them if we are able to raise our vibrations to the frequencies of other dimensions.

I also do not dismiss the contents of religious books like the Bible or the Quran. I believe that their content is powerful, inspiring and gives invaluable insight into the supernatural and the latent ability we possess to access other realms.

My journey towards this amazing realization and more possible realizations is just beginning and I am glad that I have access to the kind of knowledge that I have. I have dedicated myself to learning and growing and during this learning process, I have encountered questions that most of my learning sources do not provide an answer to, and I am hoping Billyonaire, Ifenes or anyone else that's enlightened can provide an answer to these questions.

1. What's the usefulness of blood sacrifices, human sacrifice especially, in manifesting a need? Why do demons/extraterrestrials etc have an obsession with blood sacrifice and why do they demand it? Like the God in the old testament for instance? Why do native doctors and shamans demand the sacrifice of humans and animals in order to manifest an need?

2. What dimension was Jesus Christ operating in? And is the belief in a human who has accessed a higher dimension like Jesus did, powerful enough to alter our reality and manifest our needs? Is the power in this belief affected by whether or not this person is dead or alive? What's the underlying principle in the belief in Jesus or the effectiveness of calling his name?

3. Why is it possible that "evil" beings of other dimensions submit to the Name of Jesus or any symbol of him like a cross?

4. What kind of ET/IT met Mohammed during his time alone in the cave? The hadith documents that he felt so afraid to the point where he told his wife, Khadija that he wanted to kill himself to end the pain and fear. What kind of being was this and what was his purpose in giving Mohammed the Quranic scriptures?

5. How is it that occasionally people in the 3rd dimension are able to witness beings in other dimension? Like stories of people seeing ghosts, angels, spirits etc. Are these beings able to make themselves visible to humans when they want or is it something else?

6. Do beings from other dimensions also have the ability to raise their vibrations to the frequency of higher dimensions? Are humans the only beings capable of this? Is there anything specifically powerful about humans that other entities do not possess?

7. I haven't activated my third eye and I haven't raised my frequency above the 3rd dimension, but I plan to. I have heard cases of people who have activated their pineal gland and witnessed entities that were very terrifying. Could you give me some advice on how to prepare myself and overcome fear?

I would appreciate if all my questions are attended to. Thanks.

Don't claim being an atheist, emphasizing with them when u haven't gone deep into atheism

Cooop, thanks for starting the thread. I also have been researching intensively about the major religions including Christianity, islam, hindusm, Buddhism,illuminism(illuminati), gnostisismand medivial abrahamic religion(judiasm/kabbalah).

Pardon typo errors pls, im using a mobile phone.

So the little i have read these past few weeks has really opened my eyes. As a matter of fact i have gotten confused and overwhelmed with information.
I also have several questions for billionaire, sarrasin, ifenes, PastorAiO, and other truth seekers in the forum. I have a milli milli questions and comments.

To begin proper, lets analyze from the beginning - from the Source, the Creator, the Father, The One, Pure light and Divine Love. According to Abrahamic religion,judiasm- the kabbalah(book of enlightenment) to be specific.
CREATION OF THE WORLD..
In the kabbalah a jewish rabbi, explained how God came to being. I was surprised that the jews already knew of the big bang theory our scientists use to explain the creation of the cosmos. Im in absolute shock!! So here is how creation occured according to the kabbalah: In the beginning God the eternal was in a sense the "universe". God was the "matter" that occupied what we call "nothingness". God was pure light, God contracted himself to a point inorder to give space for what would be our universe and the cosmos. Its really difficult to explain for i have not grasped the whole concept yet. However God was represented in a diagrm(cant remeber the name now). This diagram illustrated the several levels of what we call the Godhead. So after the contraction of The source it created a vessel, this vessel is called Adam knov or something like that. God out of love was sharing his light to this vessel adam but something went wrong. The vessel was suppose to receive this light but the adam vessel became the Source and it(the vessel) also wanted to share this light out of love. But the vessel couldnt creates a recipient for the light it wanted to share hence causing adam knov, to explode into an ocean of individual souls. I dont tire.

So this theory of the kabbalah is somewhat analogous to the hindu, buddha belief. That life is about aspiring to be united with God, the Source.

Now to judaism and Christianity,and islam. these group believ God an entity, eternal - created the cosmos with the infamous statement (let there be light). God created the heavens and the earth, you know the story. Let me just go straight to the point, Heaven according to these offsprings of Abrahamic religion, is a place where there would be bountifull joy, happiness and lots of honey, milk and probablu virgins. Heaven is described like it is a place that has buildings and an active government headed by the Godhead. (we will discuss the nature of the Godhead). In these rival siblings we have only one life on earth. And judgements according to deeds which would one to hell or heaven..

Which is true and which is less true?

According to illuminism(founded by pythagoras) all religions have a flaw. Illuminism agree with the core belief that life is about getting back to God. But illuminism is synonymous to gnostism(we should talk about these too) in the sense that jehova, ywvh, allah is but a Blood thirsty God identified as the devil aka the demiurge aka salbatoch(wrong spelling).

Would discuss more later. Thanks.

Cooop:
Ifenes, thank you for your response. Your answers were satisfying but they raised more questions.

Are these beings from other dimensions able influence our reality? Like entities that hunt houses and make themselves visible to humans living in those houses? Do they have the power to make humans see them?

How about other animals? Do they also possess souls? Do they also have specific frequencies? Like I have heard that dogs are able to see beings from other dimensions. Does that mean dogs vibrate at higher frequencies than humans?

Lastly, how is it that devices like cameras and televisions are better than the ordinary human eye in capturing these inter-dimensional entities? Are these devices able to vibrate at a higher frequency.

Lol.... You could be a good magician if trained. Yes , you may still be unclear of your questions because none has been answered. But why asking these questions as an atheist? Supposing the interest of deist 's spiritual culture were motivated by a desire to escape from the turbulence of physical life. What if one's stubbornly defended answers to your questions or his point of view in general were only an elaborate rationalisation to conceal the sense of insecurity , the dull but insistent ache of inferiority. Would you allow yourself to wallow in ignorance?

kkins25:
Cooop, thanks for starting the thread. I also have been researching intensively about the major religions including Christianity, islam, hindusm, Buddhism,illuminism(illuminati), gnostisismand medivial abrahamic religion(judiasm/kabbalah).

Pardon typo errors pls, im using a mobile phone.

So the little i have read these past few weeks has really opened my eyes. As a matter of fact i have gotten confused and overwhelmed with information.
I also have several questions for billionaire, sarrasin, ifenes, PastorAiO, and other truth seekers in the forum. I have a milli milli questions and comments.

To begin proper, lets analyze from the beginning - from the Source, the Creator, the Father, The One, Pure light and Divine Love. According to Abrahamic religion,judiasm- the kabbalah(book of enlightenment) to be specific.
CREATION OF THE WORLD..
In the kabbalah a jewish rabbi, explained how God came to being. I was surprised that the jews already knew of the big bang theory our scientists use to explain the creation of the cosmos. Im in absolute shock!! So here is how creation occured according to the kabbalah: In the beginning God the eternal was in a sense the "universe". God was the "matter" that occupied what we call "nothingness". God was pure light, God contracted himself to a point inorder to give space for what would be our universe and the cosmos. Its really difficult to explain for i have not grasped the whole concept yet. However God was represented in a diagrm(cant remeber the name now). This diagram illustrated the several levels of what we call the Godhead. So after the contraction of The source it created a vessel, this vessel is called Adam knov or something like that. God out of love was sharing his light to this vessel adam but something went wrong. The vessel was suppose to receive this light but the adam vessel became the Source and it(the vessel) also wanted to share this light out of love. But the vessel couldnt creates a recipient for the light it wanted to share hence causing adam knov, to explode into an ocean of individual souls. I dont tire.

So this theory of the kabbalah is somewhat analogous to the hindu, buddha belief. That life is about aspiring to be united with God, the Source.

Now to judaism and Christianity,and islam. these group believ God an entity, eternal - created the cosmos with the infamous statement (let there be light). God created the heavens and the earth, you know the story. Let me just go straight to the point, Heaven according to these offsprings of Abrahamic religion, is a place where there would be bountifull joy, happiness and lots of honey, milk and probablu virgins. Heaven is described like it is a place that has buildings and an active government headed by the Godhead. (we will discuss the nature of the Godhead). In these rival siblings we have only one life on earth. And judgements according to deeds which would one to hell or heaven..

Which is true and which is less true?

According to illuminism(founded by pythagoras) all religions have a flaw. Illuminism agree with the core belief that life is about getting back to God. But illuminism is synonymous to gnostism(we should talk about these too) in the sense that jehova, ywvh, allah is but a Blood thirsty God identified as the devil aka the demiurge aka salbatoch(wrong spelling).

Would discuss more later. Thanks.

I love this. Brb!

Sarassin:


Most welcome.

Hello.

You promised a thread on meditation sometime ago. We are waiting.

Please how do I know my vibratory level?

Between combining Mantras and taking deep breaths, I sometimes feel that I'm vibrating. Is this normal?

PS: I'm still not sure what vibrations are.

Ranchhoddas:
Hello.

You promised a thread on meditation sometime ago. We are waiting.

Please how do I know my vibratory level?

Between combining Mantras and taking deep breaths, I sometimes feel that I'm vibrating. Is this normal?

PS: I'm still not sure what vibrations are.

Yes, I did promise a thread on meditation it’s on my imminent bucket list.

To answer your question, your vibratory level is not something that is calibrated, it is in fact more of a notional concept. Your vibratory levels manifests itself more overtly depending on the constancy of spiritual development rituals, and the more you are able to transcend in meditation. For instance if I were to meet you and “see” you in the astral, your spiritual vibratory level would become instantly apparent to me by the strength of your astral emanation in comparison to others, you would be “lit up” like a Christmas tree on a dark night. In other words it is others who will sense your increased spiritual vibratory levels.

It is normal to feel a certain resonance when you are intoning a mantra and practising pranayama, this demonstrates that you are doing it properly, I should not worry about it. For you specifically, based on your experiences you should ensure that when you recite your mantras have your tongue touch the roof of your mouth, you will experience faster progress once you get used to the sensation.

Sarassin:


Yes, I did promise a thread on meditation it’s on my imminent bucket list.

To answer your question, your vibratory level is not something that is calibrated, it is in fact more of a notional concept. Your vibratory levels manifests itself more overtly depending on the constancy of spiritual development rituals, and the more you are able to transcend in meditation. For instance if I were to meet you and “see” you in the astral, your spiritual vibratory level would become instantly apparent to me by the strength of your astral emanation in comparison to others, you would be “lit up” like a Christmas tree on a dark night. In other words it is others who will sense your increased spiritual vibratory levels.

It is normal to feel a certain resonance when you are intoning a mantra and practising pranayama, this demonstrates that you are doing it properly, I should not worry about it. For you specifically, based on your experiences you should ensure that when you recite your mantras have your tongue touch the roof of your mouth, you will experience faster progress once you get used to the sensation.

Okay.
Is this resonance affected by emotion?

This is because I sometimes feel a sudden surge of that resonance when I am suddenly angry, afraid, excited or feel any other emotion.
Thanks.

Ranchhoddas:
Okay.
Is this resonance affected by emotion?

This is because I sometimes feel a sudden surge of that resonance when I am suddenly angry, afraid, excited or feel any other emotion.
Thanks.

No, it is the other way around. Your emotions are affected by the ongoing resonance or vibrations as a result of your practice. As you become more attuned to the spiritual realm you will find that you may swing from feelings of euphoria to paranoia, from anger to fearlessness. These stages are transitory until you learn to subconsciously detach your emotions and establish equanimity in your daily activities. Meditative practice seeks to make you confront deep-rooted issues.

Ranchhoddas:
Okay.
Is this resonance affected by emotion?

This is because I sometimes feel a sudden surge of that resonance when I am suddenly angry, afraid, excited or feel any other emotion.
Thanks.

Nothing to add to the superb advice given by Sarassin, but I find quite surprising and revealing that you experience these. It seems to me that you have inner abilities dispositions and prerequisite to esoteric practice, which I would not have expected knowing you as an Atheist. Truly life is a mystery and there is more to a book than its cover.

In anyway, I encourage you and Learn from your experiences and questions.

Sarassin:


No, it is the other way around. Your emotions are affected by the ongoing resonance or vibrations as a result of your practice. As you become more attuned to the spiritual realm you will find that you may swing from feelings of euphoria to paranoia, from anger to fearlessness. These stages are transitory until you learn to subconsciously detach your emotions and establish equanimity in your daily activities. Meditative practice seeks to make you confront deep-rooted issues.

Oh.

This is quite different from my experience. Noted all the same.
Thanks.

LoJ:

Nothing to add to the superb advice given by Sarassin, but I find quite surprising and revealing that you experience these. It seems to me that you have inner abilities dispositions and prerequisite to esoteric practice, which I would not have expected knowing you as an Atheist. Truly life is a mystery and there is more to a book than its cover.

In anyway, I encourage you and Learn from your experiences and questions.

Lol.
I'm not an atheist. Never have been.
I understand the misunderstanding though.

Sarassin:


No, it is the other way around. Your emotions are affected by the ongoing resonance or vibrations as a result of your practice. As you become more attuned to the spiritual realm you will find that you may swing from feelings of euphoria to paranoia, from anger to fearlessness. These stages are transitory until you learn to subconsciously detach your emotions and establish equanimity in your daily activities. Meditative practice seeks to make you confront deep-rooted issues.

Hello.


Are dreams to be taken seriously under any conditions?

If yes, what are these conditions?

Ranchhoddas:
Hello.


Are dreams to be taken seriously under any conditions?

If yes, what are these conditions?

Hi there, Yes, our sub-conscious, our greater self always tries to place us within the Divine scheme of things, unfortunately our conscious mind can be very treacherous therefore we experience a duality or a conflict that goes on within us at all times. This is often reflected in the form of our garbled dreams, however under controlled circumstances such as during lucid dreaming or the performance of rituals to produce specific dream knowledge, our dreams should be taken seriously. Dreams are intensely personal and very rarely is there a one-size fits all interpretation, but it takes practice to filter out our conscious chatter in order to then achieve clarity for meaningful dreams.

The improvement in the prescience of dreams becomes crystal clear once we learn to quieten the mind and bring focus to bear.

Sarassin:

Boss please I sent you a mail

Sarassin:


Hi there, Yes, our sub-conscious, our greater self always tries to place us within the Divine scheme of things, unfortunately our conscious mind can be very treacherous therefore we experience a duality or a conflict that goes on within us at all times. This is often reflected in the form of our garbled dreams, however under controlled circumstances such as during lucid dreaming or the performance of rituals to produce specific dream knowledge, our dreams should be taken seriously. Dreams are intensely personal and very rarely is there a one-size fits all interpretation, but it takes practice to filter out our conscious chatter in order to then achieve clarity for meaningful dreams.

The improvement in the prescience of dreams becomes crystal clear once we learn to quieten the mind and bring focus to bear.

Alright.

Thanks.

Billyonaire:
I left active Christianism as an ordained Elder under the Melchizedek Priesthood. I am not chauvinistic anymore. I embrace all religions now. Today, I was teaching my wife about Islam, so you see. I am not under any dogma. I am free.

Were you Mormon?

Billyonaire:
I left active Christianism as an ordained Elder under the Melchizedek Priesthood. I am not chauvinistic anymore. I embrace all religions now. Today, I was teaching my wife about Islam, so you see. I am not under any dogma. I am free.

You were a catholic priest?