https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNILiGWN9hE



Nice work out for the lads! Key men were rash and lingaard surprisingly!

pharod:
Fosu Mensah will have to learn how to calm down. He jumps into tackles recklessly. Though he made a very intelligent run down the flank and provided an assist.
Andreas Pereira shouldn't be sent on loan again. The guy is good.

How Shaw play?
Hope say he try well-well

funlord:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNILiGWN9hE



Nice work out for the lads! Key men were rash and lingaard surprisingly!

I was not happy with martials selfishness in the second half. The guy is so desperate to impress the manager and left Lukaku hanging many times in the second half. Good thing is Lukaku makes the runs behind the back line Ibrahimovic wasn't making last season so creates space for the others to do damage. In all the second team was more rusty than the first team but that is probably because the first team played more games together last season and its obvious from Rashford's and Lingard's performance in the first half.

SIRcumalot:

How Shaw play?
Hope say he try well-well

Shaw wey join Manchester United Cripples Fc?

joeace2020:

Shaw wey join Manchester United Cripples Fc?

I just remember say he won't be ready for a long time. I see him picture for training and got excited.

SIRcumalot:

I just remember say he won't be ready for a long time.
I see him picture for training and got excited.

Lets hope he is back early and we maintain our 4 defenders system cause this 3 defender system is not it without proper wingbacks.

Meanwhile the press is still stylishly yabing one team in blue.

Shaw neva follow the main team train sef. He is still training separately with Rojo and Young.

joeace2020:


I was not happy with martials selfishness in the second half. The guy is so desperate to impress the manager and left Lukaku hanging many times in the second half.

That's why the manager is trying to get perisic in! A wingers job is simple...beat your man or 2 with your skill or pace in tight situations, attack and continuously move into the channels and float or whip in crosses for your strikers while offering any sort of protection to your full back! I don't know where martial thinks he is but united does not have time for any drama this season! Maybe a few months spent watching perisic from the bench would remind of what his duties are!

funlord:





That's why the manager is trying to get perisic in! A wingers job is simple...beat your man or 2 with your skill or pace in tight situations, attack and continuously move into the channels and float or whip in crosses for your strikers while offering any sort of protection to your full back! I don't know where martial thinks he is but united does not have time for any drama this season! Maybe a few months spent watching perisic from the bench would remind of what his duties are!

He was not played as a winger in this match. He partnered Lukaku in attack and in my opinion he did ok, had a goal and an assist PLUS his touches were cleaner and quicker than Lukaku's.

funlord:





That's why the manager is trying to get perisic in! A wingers job is simple...beat your man or 2 with your skill or pace in tight situations, attack and continuously move into the channels and float or whip in crosses for your strikers while offering any sort of protection to your full back! I don't know where martial thinks he is but united does not have time for any drama this season! Maybe a few months spent watching perisic from the bench would remind of what his duties are!

Truth is martial is just a pure 9 with the way he plays..Never a winger for me except he improves on his crossing game. Yea he can beat people from the wing, cut inside and wreck damage but the fact that there was not a single cross from him is worrying considering Lukaku is a big guy who from the little he played would bully those guys, control a good cross and score or at least use his head. With all those tall, strong players in the second half, we should have had upto 10 crosses and crushed them with 7 or 8 goals that thry won't dream of scoring two.

funlord:





That's why the manager is trying to get perisic in! A wingers job is simple...beat your man or 2 with your skill or pace in tight situations, attack and continuously move into the channels and float or whip in crosses for your strikers while offering any sort of protection to your full back! I don't know where martial thinks he is but united does not have time for any drama this season! Maybe a few months spent watching perisic from the bench would remind of what his duties are!

Lol..
While all that is true, Martial played as a striker alongside Lukaku. There wasn't much wing play in today's match. There are instances where he could have passed to Lukaku, but he chose to shoot. Missitaryan also missed some chances b4 he scored. Heck, Lindelof missed a wide open net and ballooned the ball into the stands... I guess that was why Mourinho told the female ESPN reporter that Lukaku played better than the people that scored even though he did not score.
He terrorized their defense but he was selfish. I think pairing Lukaku and Rashford will be way more productive than Martial. Rashidi was in god mode today.

afrodoc2:


He was not played as a winger in this match. He partnered Lukaku in attack and in my opinion he did ok, had a goal and an assist PLUS his touches were cleaner and quicker than Lukaku's.

Maybe a revert to 4-2-3-1 or another variation of 433 would see him perform better as a winger but really this team needs a specialist winger. Martial isn't.

pharod:

Lol..
While all that is true, Martial played as a striker alongside Lukaku. There wasn't much wing play in today's match. There are instances where he could have passed to Lukaku, but he chose to shoot. Missitaryan also missed some chances b4 he scored. Heck, Lindelof missed a wide open net and ballooned the ball into the stands... I guess that was why Mourinho told the female ESPN reporter that Lukaku played better than the people that scored even though he did not score.
He terrorized their defense but he was selfish. I think pairing Lukaku and Rashford will be way more productive than Martial. Rashidi was in god mode today.

I was suprised with the formation but it's still early days. I really wanted that Lukaku debut goal but never came. I don't think Mourinho will stick to this formation he is testing though.

joeace2020:


Maybe a revert to 4-2-3-1 or another variation of 433 would see him perform better as a winger but really this team needs a specialist winger. Martial isn't.

I think Mourinho needs him as a striker

JayKayMaybachz:
I think Mourinho needs him as a striker

But he said Rashford and Martial are never target men in the press conference before the game. Mind game for a preseason match?

joeace2020:


Maybe a revert to 4-2-3-1 or another variation of 433 would see him perform better as a winger but really this team needs a specialist winger. Martial isn't.

With the dogged pursuit of Perisic and with Jose's comments after the game i suspect he sees Lukaku, Rashford and Martial as his strikers this season with Zlatan to come back by January.
Mata, Mikki, Lingard and Perisic would be the wingers.

afrodoc2:


He was not played as a winger in this match. He partnered Lukaku in attack and in my opinion he did ok, had a goal and an assist PLUS his touches were cleaner and quicker than Lukaku's.

He was tasked with drifting in from the wing from time to time when we were trying to counter attack or when not in possession! And he is predominantly a winger anyway! Martial has proven that he is not clinical enough to operate as a striker for an entire season! His destiny lies in the wing forward position pending when he would finally get his act together! Lukaku has nothing to prove as regards to scoring goals and being an all round threat in attack...martial does

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joeace2020:


But he said Rashford and Martial are never target men in the press conference before the game. Mind game for a preseason match?

He meant they werent strikers who play in the box like Lukaku does.. They are still strikers. He needed a striker [Poacher] Target man like Lukaku to compliment them.. Thats why we lacked goals last season

afrodoc2:


With the dogged pursuit of Perisic and with Jose's comments after the game i suspect he sees Lukaku, Rashford and Martial as his strikers this season with Zlatan to come back by January.
Mata, Mikki, Lingard and Perisic would be the wingers.

✔ ✔ ✔ � Exactly, Doc

But I'll prefer Sanchez over Perisic..

funlord:





He was tasked with drifting in from the wing from time to time when we were trying to counter attack or when not in possession! And he is predominantly a winger anyway! Martial has proven that he is not clinical enough to operate as a striker for an entire season! His destiny lies in the wing forward position pending when he would finally get his act together! Lukaku has nothing to prove as regards to scoring goals and being an all round threat in attack...martial does

If he has something to prove why are you criticizing him when he puts in a decent performance and scores one goal and makes another?
If he scores you criticize him, if he does not you criticize him also?
And Martial has not PROVEN he can't be a striker. He is 21, at his age Henry was still a wasteful winger in Juventus and Drogba was just becoming a professional footballer.
WE NEED MULTIPLE PLAYERS TO SCORE IN DOUBLE DIGITS THIS SEASON and if Martial has decided to step up and become more of a goal scorer i am happy with that.
It is too early to start criticizing our players especially one that just scored one and assisted another.

JayKayMaybachz:
✔ ✔ ✔ � Exactly, Doc

But I'll prefer Sanchez over Perisic..

Definitely Sanchez is the better player but not sure we have a chance to get him.

afrodoc2:


With the dogged pursuit of Perisic and with Jose's comments after the game i suspect he sees Lukaku, Rashford and Martial as his strikers this season with Zlatan to come back by January.
Mata, Mikki, Lingard and Perisic would be the wingers.

He is too focused on scoring goals. I could tell from his body language loosing the number 9 shirt when Ibrahimovic came that he wanted to strike and not be a winger. I think Mourinho has seen that and doesn't want to upset him again this season shunting him to the wing were he's had his worst season with us. I guess thats why we saw a 2 man up top tonight. Well I'll be glad if we have 3 very good striking options but it seems Martial will be creating problems next season if he doesn't start as a striker. This formation would have helped but its vulnerable and unlike Mourinho.

joeace2020:


He is too focused on scoring goals. I could tell from his body language loosing the number 9 shirt when Ibrahimovic came that he wanted to strike and not be a winger. I think Mourinho has seen that and doesn't want to upset him again this season shunting him to the wing were he's had his worst season with us. I guess thats why we saw a 2 man up top tonight. Well I'll be glad if we have 3 very good striking options but it seems Martial will be creating problems next season if he doesn't start as a striker. This formation would have helped but its vulnerable and unlike Mourinho.

If we had more people focused on scoring goals last season maybe we would not have ended up so low in the league. Zlatan has shown us that 1 scorer can't get you far in the league. We need more scorers, and prolific ones too. I have no problem with Martial's choice of shots in this game.

JayKayMaybachz:
He meant they werent strikers who play in the box like Lukaku does.. They are still strikers. He needed a striker [Poacher] Target man like Lukaku to compliment them.. Thats why we lacked goals last season

Okay which means to the wings they go but then again they are not great from the wings either and a 3-5-2 formation is suspect even though it allows them get to play in their preferred area of the pitch.

afrodoc2:


If we had more people focused on scoring goals last season maybe we would not have ended up so low in the league. Zlatan has shown us that 1 scorer can't get you far in the league. We need more scorers, and prolific ones too. I have no problem with Martial's choice of shots in this game.

Okay maybe i am too biased in favor of Lukaku but i am just scared leaving 3 people at the back just so 2 fowards can be up top is risky.

afrodoc2:


If he has something to prove why are you criticizing him when he puts in a decent performance and scores one goal and makes another?
If he scores you criticize him, if he does not you criticize him also?
And Martial has not PROVEN he can't be a striker. He is 21, at his age Henry was still a wasteful winger in Juventus and Drogba was just becoming a professional footballer.
WE NEED MULTIPLE PLAYERS TO SCORE IN DOUBLE DIGITS THIS SEASON and if Martial has decided to step up and become more of a goal scorer i am happy with that.
It is too early to start criticizing our players especially one that just scored one and assisted another.

Who is criticizing martial? Abi you still dey sleep? So to now chip in my own 2 kobo as regards to a question about something that someone else asked me over his performance has now turned to criticism? And when did I become martials number one hater sef based on your bolded post? Links abeg....

Is it in a pre season friendly against lukewarm American opponents that I should even rate martial or by what I have seen before or what I will see him do when the season kicks off....shebi real madrid dey front? By the way this was an experimental formation by the coach as he said after the match...I don't think anything is set in stone regarding martial partnering lukaku yet!

joeace2020:

I was not happy with martials selfishness in the second half. The guy is so desperate to impress the manager and left Lukaku hanging many times in the second half Good thing is Lukaku makes the runs behind the back line Ibrahimovic wasn't making last season so creates space for the others to do damage.

afrodoc2:


Definitely Sanchez is the better player but not sure we have a chance to get him.

Yeah that's the problem.. Lets wait.. Anything can happen

joeace2020:


Okay maybe i am too biased in favor of Lukaku but i am just scared leaving 3 people at the back just so 2 fowards can be up top is risky.

It is understandable that people want the new expensive guy Lukaku to do well but our focus should be on the well being of the ENTIRE team rather than 1 player.
Since it is acknowledged that Lukaku knows how to score goals i am not really worried about him for now cos i believe the goals will start to flow at some point.
I would have been more worried if Mikki, Fellaini, Martial and Rashford kept on last season's pattern of missing clear cut chances.

Lastly this is only pre-season guys AND the first game at that. So let us all chill.

funlord:





That's why the manager is trying to get perisic in! A wingers job is simple...beat your man or 2 with your skill or pace in tight situations, attack and continuously move into the channels and float or whip in crosses for your strikers while offering any sort of protection to your full back! I don't know where martial thinks he is but united does not have time for any drama this season! Maybe a few months spent watching perisic from the bench would remind of what his duties are!

This looks very much like criticism to me though.
Anyway like i said this is just pre-season so no worries.

but wait oh, how is perisic better than Martial?? last season was martials worst yet he managed to post similar stats to that of perisic that had one of his best season and that Perisic of a guy is not even a great crosser of the ball, though i go like make we sign am sha, he'll really be a beast as a lwb, a Valencia replica with a bit of skills and goals, but make people no deceive their selfs into thinking that martial should be learning from perisic forget age matter it should be the other way round

people should not forget what martial is capable of, only dis guy run our attack under L.V.G i doubt a player of perisic's calibre can do that.

afrodoc2:


With the dogged pursuit of Perisic and with Jose's comments after the game i suspect he sees Lukaku, Rashford and Martial as his strikers this season with Zlatan to come back by January.
Mata, Mikki, Lingard and Perisic would be the wingers.

If these guys are going to be our wingers this season, then we are still going to experience some very frustrating football. None of them are true wingers in the real sense.

As per perisic, I Dont know what to expect of hm n the EFL if he eventually comes. I would still prefer martial on the LW.