LordReed:


If you can point one post where I personally briefed about George W. Bush's foreign policy, I'll be glad to apologize. But you won't because I am not unaware of American history, you can't find me making such statements. I hold myself responsible for my opinions and statements but I will not take responsibility for those of others. When discussing with me please focus on my statements and not on what others have said.

For the purpose of equality and to avoid the typical liberal hypocrisy We will await you to chastise and criticize in clear words the policies of Obama in Syria and Libya.

America was attacked under Bush, What was Obamas excuse

LordReed:


[s]I am sure you one of these conspiracy theorists who believe Obama and the Clintons belong to some World dominating order that's why they can't be persecuted. For the record I think that position is totally bogus, an attempt to transfer the burden of proving true wrong to some shadowy figures, a more sophisticated version of "it's the devil's hand work!". If Obama did something that was worth persecuting a Republican majority Congress would have leapt to action without an iota hesitation same way Clinton was impeached. So I think that argument should be laid to rest, it has no merit whatsoever.
[/s]

Stop arguing with yourself. Until I come out as a conspiracy theorist, don't give me a level I haven't given myself.

Moving on...

The relevance of bringing up US foreign policy under Obama is also another bogus position because then you'll have to take all of US history into cognisance. So while you want to hang Obama for those policies I think you should also hang every other President before and after him because as far as I can see nothing has changed. Drones have increased, an ineffective missile strike was authorized, etc. This US policy, it almost has nothing to do with the President but everything to do with US interests and maintaining their hegemony. Don't kid yourself into thinking this presidency is any different.

What makes you think I don't think Bush should be prosecuted, or Clinton before him , or Bush before him? The US has interfered in the politics of sovereign nations for decades with impunity. In fact, this same Russia they are hypocritically wailing about suffered US interference when Yelstin was selected. The ousting of a democratic administration in Ukraine would have spelt doom for political operatives of a lesser country had they attempted it. The ICC would be all gung-ho about the whole affair but, because the US is involved everyone looks the other way.

My point, let me reiterate for the umpteenth time, is that this particular comment by this Obama staffer is a fart in the wind, an irrelevancy. A stupid hypocritical, virtues signalling comment lacking on substance.

Furthermore, the whole Russia debacle is seemingly turning towards an investigation into the Hillary Clinton campaign's act of collusion with the Ukrainian government, as well as, this Russian lawyer that met with Trump Jr.. I only refrain from constantly referring to it because it is still under investigation and I would like to see some actual evidence before I embarrass myself like the Russiagate shills who have produced as much evidence as zero. Trump is still president, Trump Jr is still a free man. They have needed lawyers because Hillary and her campaign and the liberal media have cooked up a bogeyman being the sore losers they are.

Funny how the russy cocksuckers can hold light to Obama Syria policies. When there God father was in the war front committing genocide. Conservative brain is a piece of smoked dried sh1t.

CaeserVelli:

Stop arguing with yourself. Until I come out as a conspiracy theorist, don't give me a level I haven't given myself.

Moving on...



What makes you think I don't think Bush should be prosecuted, or Clinton before him , or Bush before him? The US has interfered in the politics of sovereign nations for decades with impunity. In fact, this same Russia they are hypocritically wailing about suffered US interference when Yelstin was selected. The ousting of a democratic administration in Ukraine would have spelt doom for political operatives of a lesser country had they attempted it. The ICC would be all gung-ho about the whole affair but, because the US is involved everyone looks the other way.

My point, let me reiterate for the umpteenth time, is that this particular comment by this Obama staffer is a fart in the wind, an irrelevancy. A stupid hypocritical, virtues signalling comment lacking on substance.

Furthermore, the whole Russia debacle is seemingly turning towards an investigation into the Hillary Clinton campaign's act of collusion with the Ukrainian government, as well as, this Russian lawyer that met with Trump Jr.. I only refrain from constantly referring to it because it is still under investigation and I would like to see some actual evidence before I embarrass myself like the Russiagate shills who have produced as much evidence as zero. Trump is still president, Trump Jr is still a free man. They have needed lawyers because Hillary and her campaign and the liberal media have cooked up a bogeyman being the sore losers they are.

Hey you piece of garbage, name one Clinton campaign official in any meeting with Ukraine? Faux news narratives block the working part of ididot like you brains.

You must be either a m0ron or you just outright stupid, a boogeyman thing? Yet your drumpf sidekicks have been forgetting every Russian meeting till the press bring stuffs out. Like comey rightly said that drumpf is under investigation plus somebody called Mueller is digging out stuff. There is a fisa warrant already on drumpf and his campaign. Breaking next week are call recordings to rus subject from don the con himself.

Happy National Ice Cream Day America

CaeserVelli:

Stop arguing with yourself. Until I come out as a conspiracy theorist, don't give me a level I haven't given myself.

Moving on...

Whatever men. Just stop bringing up non-points. Obama is not under investigation for any wrong doing, end of.

What makes you think I don't think Bush should be prosecuted, or Clinton before him , or Bush before him? The US has interfered in the politics of sovereign nations for decades with impunity. In fact, this same Russia they are hypocritically wailing about suffered US interference when Yelstin was selected. The ousting of a democratic administration in Ukraine would have spelt doom for political operatives of a lesser country had they attempted it. The ICC would be all gung-ho about the whole affair but, because the US is involved everyone looks the other way.

I would be very glad if indeed this was your position but it seems like you want this justice to be selective, singling out Obama and Clinton for your barrage. If indeed it is your position your barrages would attack US policy as a whole.

My point, let me reiterate for the umpteenth time, is that this particular comment by this Obama staffer is a fart in the wind, an irrelevancy. A stupid hypocritical, virtues signalling comment lacking on substance.

Don't particularly care about the statement you are referring to. I was making fun of this constant need to drag Clinton into everything. The remark was made by an Obama staff but you must associate Clinton by all means.

Furthermore, the whole Russia debacle is seemingly turning towards an investigation into the Hillary Clinton campaign's act of collusion with the Ukrainian government, as well as, this Russian lawyer that met with Trump Jr.. I only refrain from constantly referring to it because it is still under investigation and I would like to see some actual evidence before I embarrass myself like the Russiagate shills who have produced as much evidence as zero. Trump is still president, Trump Jr is still a free man. They have needed lawyers because Hillary and her campaign and the liberal media have cooked up a bogeyman being the sore losers they are.

Yes as is it is so far the Ukrainian thing is clear. It was not Trump the information received was about, it was Manafort and that was as result of payments he received from the Ukrainian government when it was a Russian-friendly President in charge. Trying make it seem like some sort of collusion for the election maybe very laughable because the person who got the information was not a Clinton campaign staffer.

BTW I have come to realise that the US which we used to make out to be some sort of hero nation is just like all other nations, they do despicable things to achieve their aims so indeed their cry of Russian interference is hypocritical but for them the role reversal is enormous so to speak and will leave a lasting impression in their minds and probably their government.

sleekdot:


For the purpose of equality and to avoid the typical liberal hypocrisy We will await you to chastise and criticize in clear words the policies of Obama in Syria and Libya.

America was attacked under Bush, What was Obamas excuse

I have and will continue to fault American interventionist policies whether it be under Obama or Bush or Trump or Democrat or Republican. America and the rest of the West including Russia have constantly created a World were war is inevitable. If this world is ever going to survive self inflicted nuclear annihilation things need to change.

LordReed:


I have and will continue to fault American interventionist policies whether it be under Obama or Bush or Trump or Democrat or Republican. America and the rest of the West including Russia have constantly created a World were war is inevitable. If this world is ever going to survive self inflicted nuclear annihilation things need to change.

Bush had a reason. America was attacked under him, which was what pushed him into war. Before 9-11 Bush was not involved with any intervention. Key question is What did Libyans and Syrians do to Obama?

Let me ask when Milosevic was killing ethnic Albanians or when Iraq invaded Kuwait should America have ignored? When all these crimes are going on and people call on America what should they do? Ignore and let these dictators kill as many as they want of their people

sleekdot:


Bush had a reason. America was attacked under him, which was what pushed him into war. Before 9-11 Bush was not involved with any intervention.

The weapons of mass destruction were his reason to bomb Iraq but they have never been found.

The so called 'fake news' revealed the TRUTH eventually.

Trump and his team did collude with Russia. Poor Trump supporters, their hero made them look like re.tards. Everyone knew it but they ate Trump's lies.

sleekdot:


Bush had a reason. America was attacked under him, which was what pushed him into war. Before 9-11 Bush was not involved with any intervention. Key question is What did Libyans and Syrians do to Obama?

Let me ask when Milosevic was killing ethnic Albanians or when Iraq invaded Kuwait should America have ignored? When all these crimes are going on and people call on America what should they do? Ignore and let these dictators kill as many as they want of their people

You are funny. You think that any reason they give justifies the deaths? LoL

Donald trump is the only US President in Modern History that have not being able to pass a single Major Legislative Bill even though both houses of congress is dominated by he's party..Shame

LordReed:
You are funny. You think that any reason they give justifies the deaths? LoL

Attacking America on 9-11 justifies anything that happens to those harboring the terrorists like Afghanistan

Are you saying Clinton had no justification for intervention in Bosnia and Obama had no justification for Syria? Basicallythe last 2 democratic presidents had no justifications

sleekdot:


Attacking America on 9-11 justifies anything that happens to those harboring the terrorists like Afghanistan

Are you saying Clinton had no justification for intervention in Bosnia and Obama had no justification for Syria? Basicallythe last 2 democratic presidents had no justifications

As far as I'm concerned all of the so called justifications are only excuses to push American interests and agenda.

LordReed:
As far as I'm concerned all of the so called justifications are only excuses to push American interests and agenda.

Bombing America on 9-11 and killing thousands on American soil is an excuse to you?

Hera77:
The so called 'fake news' revealed the TRUTH eventually.

Trump and his team did collude with Russia. Poor Trump supporters, their hero made them look like re.tards. Everyone knew it but they ate Trump's lies.

How did he collude with the Russians?

happney65:
Donald trump is the only US President in Modern History that have not being able to pass a single Major Legislative Bill even though both houses of congress is dominated by he's party..Shame

That is because there is no difference between both parties.. Dont worry though all that will change soon

raumdeuter:


Bombing America on 9-11 and killing thousands on American soil is an excuse to you?

Tell me, what reason did they have to do so in the first place if not the effects American interests?

oyb:


maybe because obama did not go running in like a go it alone cowboy.

Lol

So Bush went in alone? Smh

LordReed:
Tell me, what reason did they have to do so in the first place if not the effects American interests?

What is the reason terrorists give to kill? What is the reason for ISIS beheading xtian, moslems pagans? Whats the reason for Shekau and Boko Haram killing? Whats the reason for France, Belgium, UK, Germany terrorist attacks

sleekdot:


For the purpose of equality and to avoid the typical liberal hypocrisy We will await you to chastise and criticize in clear words the policies of Obama in Syria and Libya.

America was attacked under Bush, What was Obamas excuse

There was no war on Syria. There is a war on ISIS.

The intervention in Libya was backed up by the United Nations Security Council. There was a resolution. Unlike in Iraq where the weapons of mass destruction have never been found.

HUGE DIFFERENCES.

stanech:


How did he collude with the Russians?

Ask Don Jr. or read his emails.

raumdeuter:


What is the reason terrorists give to kill? What is the reason for ISIS beheading xtian, moslems pagans? Whats the reason for Shekau and Boko Haram killing? Whats the reason for France, Belgium, UK, Germany terrorist attacks

The West's interference in the Middle East (in the case of Boko Haram, Western influence in general) but yes it is also a bogus reason. It's a stupid cycle which has plenty of blame to go around.

Hera77:


There was no war on Syria. There is a war on ISIS.

The intervention in Libya was backed up by the United Nations Security Council. There was a resolution. Unlike in Iraq where the weapons of mass destruction have never been found.

HUGE DIFFERENCES.

Educating an illiterate about the working of international law. You have a lot of time on your hand mate.

Kophschmerzen:


Educating an illiterate about the working of international law. You have a lot of time on your hand mate.

I have no shortage of time or money so let me do my service to humanity.

Kophschmerzen:


Yet your drumpf sidekicks have been forgetting every Russian meeting till the press bring stuffs out. Like comey rightly said that drumpf is under investigation plus somebody called Mueller is digging out stuff. There is a fisa warrant already on drumpf and his campaign. Breaking next week are call recordings to rus subject from don the con himself.

BUSTED: Russian who met with Trump's son worked for the FBI!

True Pundit did a documents request and found out that it was an FBI sponsored gig all the way!

"The Russian translator at the Trump Tower meeting with Donald Trump Jr. worked with the State Department and the FBI during Robert Mueller's tenure as Director of the Bureau, according to documents obtained by True Pundit.

Mueller, the former FBI director, is currently the United States Special Counsel investigating President Donald Trump's administration and White House aides for alleged connections to supposed Russian factions. While Big Media has tried to portray Trump's eldest son, Donald Jr., as having orchestrated a clandestine meeting with the Russians to attempt to find dirt on Hillary Clinton, few can seem to explain how a person linked to the FBI and Mueller, who was calling the shots for the Bureau at the time, ended up at the very same Trump Tower sit down.

Mueller’s office did not return calls for comment. The translator, Anatoli Samochornov, who also worked for the US State Department until recently, could not be reached for comment either. Former FBI officials with knowledge of the meeting and possible other FBI work performed by Samochornov refused to go on the record.

So there you have it - the death knell for Trump/Russia revision 2.0. They won't give up, there will be a Trump/Russia revision 9.1, BET ON IT because the left has a set in stone policy of simply lying until it finally sticks.

http://truepundit.com/russian-at-donald-trump-jr-meeting-worked-with-fbi-while-special-counsel-robert-mueller-was-fbi-director/

Hera77:


There was no war on Syria. There is a war on ISIS.

The intervention in Libya was backed up by the United Nations Security Council. There was a resolution. Unlike in Iraq where the weapons of mass destruction have never been found.

HUGE DIFFERENCES.

Son, you need to know what is ISIS

U.S. Armed forces admits to training Jihadis by mistake!

Nothing like a little "insulting the wrong gun" talk to get someone to slip up!

On a popular forum there (was) a thread where the AR-15 was insulted with the topic line being "The AR15 is such a stupid rifle." As anyone knows, it is a near copy of an M-16 standard issue U.S. military rifle, minus automatic. So some veterans got going on the thread, which quickly morphed into a thread talking about how much better the AK-47 is on the battlefield, compared to the M-16. And that got one veteran all worked up, and he slipped up and said this:

"Ok tough guy. You run out onto the battle field like a gung ho jihadi high on goat ass spraying your AK or .308 and don't act surprised when the guy with the AR behind cover picks you apart at 150 yards after you fell for the guys coaxing you out with cover fire you thought you were going to destroy with run and gun.

What I'm saying is you guys talking shit on the AR sound just like the jihadis and the various rag heads we tried to train how to fight right and they die off fast in the real world."

HA HA HA, LET ME POST THE KEY LINE AGAIN: "What I'm saying is you guys talking shit on the AR sound just like the jihadis and the various rag heads we tried to train how to fight right and they die off fast in the real world."
MY COMMENT: Ok, so you DO train the jihadis, eh??!!??

Precious!

OOOOOOOOOOOPS!

raumdeuter:


Bombing America on 9-11 and killing thousands on American soil is an excuse to you?

You've never heard the phrase "inside job" before?

See http://yournewswire.com/cia-911-wtc7/ and thank me later!

CaeserVelli:
What If Russiagate Is Actually Hillarygate



According to an insider account, the Clinton team, put together the Russia Gate narrative within 24 hours of her defeat.

Former FBI director, James Comey, refused to answer questions about Fusion and the Steele dossier in his May 3 testimony before the Senate Intelligence Committee. Comey responded to Lindsey Graham’s questions about Fusion GPS’s involvement “in preparing a dossier against Donald Trump that would be interfering in our election by the Russians?” with “I don’t want to say.” Perhaps he will be called on to answer in a forum where he cannot refuse to answer.



https://www.forbes.com/sites/paulroderickgregory/2017/06/19/is-russiagate-really-hillarygate/#4cc997595cf6

Raumdeuter Stanech Missy89 Obixcel

"Cernovich said on 4th hour of Alex yesterday that the reason Trump DOJ won't hire a special counsel against Dem crimes is because no lawyer is willing to risk the life of his family members to do so. Makes sense. So the beat goes on. Three suspicious Arkancides in two weeks -- dude who told WSJ he tried to find Hillary emails, dude who was going to testify against Clinton Foundation and Haiti, and supposedly (according to Before Its News) the pilot of the plane who hard Clinton and Lynch conspire on the Tarmac. Add a dash of Seth Rich, the UN guy who killed himself lifting weights, the Haiti investigator looking into child trafficking who killed herself, and whoa."

Hera77:
There was no war on Syria. There is a war on ISIS.

The intervention in Libya was backed up by the United Nations Security Council. There was a resolution. Unlike in Iraq where the weapons of mass destruction have never been found.

HUGE DIFFERENCES.

No. Obama govt armed rebels to fight against Assad. Is Assad ISIS?. Once again, what was the justification for removing Assad by Obama and leading to death of Syrians

LordReed:
The West's interference in the Middle East (in the case of Boko Haram, Western influence in general) but yes it is also a bogus reason. It's a stupid cycle which has plenty of blame to go around.

And ISIS beheading everyone too including Syrian moslems too must have a reason or you can make one for them

raumdeuter:


And ISIS beheading everyone too including Syrian moslems too must have a reason or you can make one for them

LoL. You can act like you don't know what they say but fact is you and I don't accept their reasoning.