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Jesus V Muhammed - Muslim Response - Talk Islam by TalkIslam: 6:42pm On Jul 17, 2017 |
This a response to the EPIC FAIL of a video by Steven Crowder in his desperate attempt to gain attention. It's always best to ignore such videos, especially since the whole "Islamaphobia" thing is getting old now, but in certain instances it's good to clarify where he went wrong in terms of the misconceptions he put forward. ***PLEASE NOTE MARY DID NOT GET MARRIED IN ISLAM - THIS IS THE CHRISTIAN VIEW, BUT REGARDLESS IT WOULD HAVE STILL BEEN SEEN AS A NORMAL MARRIAGE*** This video deals with the obvious criticisms of Islam and brings light to their reality. 1) The Marriage of Aisha with Muhammad (pbuh) 2) The issue of polygamy and multiple wives in Islam 3) The punishment of adultery in Islam 4) The concept of Jihad and fighting 5) The final words and death of Muhammad (pbuh) the best man to walk this Earth. We will defend our beloved noble Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) until our last breaths. We are used to this already. "They want to extinguish the light of Allah with their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, although the disbelievers dislike it." Quran 61:8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om-a-qoI5qU |
Re: Jesus V Muhammed - Muslim Response - Talk Islam by branhampaul: 7:16pm On Jul 17, 2017 |
We will defend our beloved noble Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) until our last breaths. We are used to this already.you defend him by fighting and killing others who don't believe in your religion?, why can't allah just appear in the sky so everyone could believe him?. Stop believing in joke. 2 Likes |
Re: Jesus V Muhammed - Muslim Response - Talk Islam by TalkIslam: 7:23pm On Jul 17, 2017 |
branhampaul:Salam! Am sorry, I can't help you. |
Re: Jesus V Muhammed - Muslim Response - Talk Islam by branhampaul: 7:27pm On Jul 17, 2017 |
TalkIslam:I never asked for help!! |
Re: Jesus V Muhammed - Muslim Response - Talk Islam by TalkIslam: 7:34pm On Jul 17, 2017 |
branhampaul:Salam! Ok. |
Re: Jesus V Muhammed - Muslim Response - Talk Islam by iamgenius(m): 7:47pm On Jul 17, 2017 |
branhampaul:To be honest with u brother, you really need help. Dont ask me HOW, do some research abt Islam and Prophet Muhammad(peace be upon him) and put those bad sentiments aside please (Please do it with open mind) Thank Me In D Hereafter 4 Likes |
Re: Jesus V Muhammed - Muslim Response - Talk Islam by TalkIslam: 7:53pm On Jul 17, 2017 |
iamgenius:Salam! |
Re: Jesus V Muhammed - Muslim Response - Talk Islam by branhampaul: 8:05pm On Jul 17, 2017 |
iamgenius:hahaha, picador. |
Re: Jesus V Muhammed - Muslim Response - Talk Islam by jamilafilani: 8:33pm On Jul 17, 2017 |
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Re: Jesus V Muhammed - Muslim Response - Talk Islam by TalkIslam: 8:35pm On Jul 17, 2017 |
jamilafilani:Salam! |
Re: Jesus V Muhammed - Muslim Response - Talk Islam by plainbibletruth: 10:50pm On Jul 17, 2017 |
TalkIslam: What do say about this: Mohamed: 1. Killed captives taken in battle who surrendered – Ibn Ishaq 451 2. Encouraged his men to rape enslaved women – Abu Dawood 2150, Quran 4:24 3. Demanded captured slaves and a fifth of all other loot taken in war – Quran 8:41 4. Was NEVER tortured, but tortured others – Muslim 4131, Ibn Ishaq 436, 595, 734, 764 5. “And fight them until there is no more persecution and religion is only for Allah” – Quran 8:39 6. Blessed the brutal murder of a half-blind man – al-Tabari 1440 Jesus: 1. Never took captives. Never killed anyone. 2. Never encouraged rape. Never enslaved women. 3. “The Son of Man came not to be served, but to serve” - Matthew 20:28 4. Suffered torture, but never tortured anyone. 5. “Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you” – Matthew 5:44 6. Healed a blind man. – Mark 8:28 And this article: A Comparison between Jesus and Muhammad by Matt Slick Following is a chart that shows some of the strong differences between Jesus and Mohammed. The Muslims revere Mohammed as the greatest of prophets, yet Jesus clearly demonstrated greater authority, teaching, and miracles than Mohammed ever did. Why would anyone want to follow Mohammed over Jesus when Jesus claimed to be divine, performed many miracles, said he alone was the truth, raised people from the dead, and rose from the dead himself; and Mohammed did none of these things. However, Mohammed did have people killed, spread his religion through war, married a very young girl and had relations with her when she was nine years of age, and taught hatred of Jews and Christians. Jesu/[b] versus [b]Muhammad Death: Jesus died and rose from the dead. Muhammad died and stayed dead. Fighting: Jesus never fought. Muhammad fought many many times. Hearing from God: When Jesus heard from God, he went to the desert When Muhammad heard from God(supposedly through an to be tempted and began his ministry with boldness. angel),he cowered, was uncertain, and wanted to commit (Mark 1:14-15). suicide. (Quran 74:1-5) Identity: Jesus claimed to be God (John 8:24; 58) as well as a man. Muhammad claimed to be a man. Jesus claimed to be the way, the truth, and the life. (John 14:6). Instructions Received: From God the Father (John 5:19) Muhammad Allegedly from an angel Killing: Jesus never killed anyone. Muhammad killed many. Life: Jesus had the power to take life but never did. He restored it. Muhammad had the power to take it, but he never restored it. No one ever died in Jesus' presence. Many people died in Muhammad's presence--he killed them. Marriage: Jesus never married. Muhammad had over 20 wives and even married a nine-year-old girl. Ministry: Jesus received his calling from God directly. (Matt. 3:17). Muhammad allegedly received it from an angel (Gabriel). Jesus received his commission in the daylight. Muhammad received his words in the darkness of a cave. Ministry Length: Jesus taught for 3 1/2 years. Muhammad taught for more than 20 years. Miracles: Jesus performed many miracles including healing people, Muhammad's only alleged miracle was the Quran. calming a storm with a command, and raising people from the dead. Prophecy: Jesus fulfilled biblical prophecy about being the Messiah. Muhammad did not fulfill any biblical prophecy except the ones about false teachers (Matt. 24:24). Sacrifice: Jesus voluntarily laid his life down for others. Muhammad saved his own life many times and had others killed. Sin: Jesus never sinned. (1 Pet. 2:22) Muhammad was a sinner. (Quran 40:55; 48:1-2) Slaves Jesus owned no slaves. Muhammad owned slaves. Virgin Birth: Jesus was virgin born. Muhammad was not virgin born. Voice of God: Jesus received and heard the Muhammad did not receive or hear the direct voice of God. It direct voice of God. (Mark 1:10-11) was an angel instead. Women: Jesus spoke well of women. Muhammad said women were 1/2 as smart as men (Hadith 3:826; 2:541), that the majority in hell will be women (Had. 1:28,301; 2:161; 7:124), and that women could be mortgaged. There is no comparison between Jesus and Muhammad. Muhammad falls so far short that he cannot be held on any level remotely close to Jesus. Muhammad is clearly inferior to Christ. 7 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Jesus V Muhammed - Muslim Response - Talk Islam by TalkIslam: 7:40am On Jul 18, 2017 |
plainbibletruth:Salam! Care to watch the video? 1 Like |
Re: Jesus V Muhammed - Muslim Response - Talk Islam by iamgenius(m): 9:20am On Jul 18, 2017 |
@plainbibletruth D same old claims, taking wordr out of context, not knowing d reason behind those verses of d Quran and Hadiths. U are totally ignorant abt Islam and Prophet Muhammad(Peace Be Upon Him). When u talked abt slavery in war(captives), I can boldly tell d world that Islam allowed us to take prisoners of war as slaves, for ur mind riht now we allowed slavery. Clarification: Think abt this; in Islam , if someone commits some major sins one of d expiation of d sin will be to free slaves. Those Westerners that abolish slavery are practising modern slavery. What is d population of Britain when they enslaved India which they still continue to do. When Allah Commanded our Prophet(peace be upon him) and his companions to fight d disbelieves and chase them out from their homes; it's because the disbelievers have tortured d muslims badly, so Allah told d muslims that their calmness and gentility should not turn them to being fools ane they shld protect themselves. |
Re: Jesus V Muhammed - Muslim Response - Talk Islam by TalkIslam: 10:42am On Jul 18, 2017 |
iamgenius:Salam! "Insha Allah" may Allah increase you in knowledge. 3 Likes |
Re: Jesus V Muhammed - Muslim Response - Talk Islam by iamgenius(m): 10:48am On Jul 18, 2017 |
TalkIslam:Aamin and you too. |
Re: Jesus V Muhammed - Muslim Response - Talk Islam by plainbibletruth: 11:58am On Jul 18, 2017 |
TalkIslam: The video does not deny any of the claims against Islam. At best what it does is to say: “if it is also in the Bible, then it’s ok for it to be done in Islam. That is hardly any reasonable way of proving a point. Saying one thing and DOING ANOTHER is a common FEATURE in Islam. The Moslem has to let us know whether he stands with the quran or if he has chosen his own standards to walk with. Deception (Al-Taqiya) is also a norm in Islam, so the Moslem can say one thing and mean or do a completely different thing. On Marriage to Minor Even if Islam appears to encourage marriage to girls who have reached puberty, it is clear that Mohamed VIOLATED such. He married a six (6) year old. What moral is in this for a 50 year old? Moslems in response to this will be quick to say: “Allah knows best”. A lame excuse. It is either that the religion stands for DEFINITE standards or it rests on nothing. Does the quran have ONE SET OF RULES for Mohamed and then ANOTHER for the rest of Moslems or is it that like Aisha, Mohamed’s wife told him – it always appear that Allah is very ready to satisfy Mohamed’s pleasures. Have Moslems ever wonder why the Quran is MORE ABOUT Mohamed than even Allah? On “ETHICS OF WAR” The quran (and also Islam’s other so-called holy books) should be the ultimate source of KNOWING anything about what Islam stands for; not what any Moslem would like us to accept or believe that Islam stands for. The question should always be – “What does the quran or the hadith, etc say about this issue and where divergent views are stated in them which ones stand and why?” JIHAD MOST DEFINITELY includes military warfare to expand Islam. Moslems believe Islam MUST rule the world. Conquering people through warfare is then seen as a legitimate means of accomplishing this. Mohamed raided many caravans. Mohamed raided many tribes. Mohamed made unprovoked wars against many settlements and cities. Sura 33:26 shows that men of the Qurayza tribe were killed. There was no separation of young from old, or fighters from non-fighters. In short, no “ETHICS” was applied. In fact, Mohamed wanted to always instil fear in the people he went against and a warning to others he was yet to get to. Whatever Mohamed did he claimed it was by Allah’s permission – Q. 59:5 It was the booty of raids and wars that Mohamed and Islam used in expanding their reach. For every people Mohamed came against they were FORCED to either accept Islam or face death or subjugation. The “No compulsion in religion”, from the historical account of Mohamed, NEVER existed as a mantra in Islam. 8 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Jesus V Muhammed - Muslim Response - Talk Islam by Habyz(m): 12:08pm On Jul 18, 2017 |
branhampaul:And which prove do you have that Islam actually supports fighting and killing. 1 Like |
Re: Jesus V Muhammed - Muslim Response - Talk Islam by Habyz(m): 12:12pm On Jul 18, 2017 |
plainbibletruth:If you can't read the Quran why are so disturbed that you lie against it 3 Likes |
Re: Jesus V Muhammed - Muslim Response - Talk Islam by ambassagod: 12:16pm On Jul 18, 2017 |
Habyz: If only imam Tawhidi is lying too! 4 Likes |
Re: Jesus V Muhammed - Muslim Response - Talk Islam by hopefulLandlord: 12:49pm On Jul 18, 2017 |
Habyz:your religion encourages violence against people who don't buy your silly tales 6 Likes |
Re: Jesus V Muhammed - Muslim Response - Talk Islam by lfleak: 12:52pm On Jul 18, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord:this man ran from the truth in the video.. Why? 1 Like |
Re: Jesus V Muhammed - Muslim Response - Talk Islam by lfleak: 12:52pm On Jul 18, 2017 |
ambassagod:listen to understand and don't listen to ignore.. Watch his video again |
Re: Jesus V Muhammed - Muslim Response - Talk Islam by lfleak: 12:53pm On Jul 18, 2017 |
plainbibletruth:Aisha was married at the age 9.. That only has made all your note false.. |
Re: Jesus V Muhammed - Muslim Response - Talk Islam by TalkIslam: 2:30pm On Jul 18, 2017 |
plainbibletruth:Salam! Watch https://www.nairaland.com/3928698/muslim-v-atheist-response-jihadonignorance |
Re: Jesus V Muhammed - Muslim Response - Talk Islam by Habyz(m): 3:00pm On Jul 18, 2017 |
ambassagod:Why note post a link of a video of imam Tawhidi |
Re: Jesus V Muhammed - Muslim Response - Talk Islam by Habyz(m): 3:03pm On Jul 18, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord:If you want to talk about religious violence think about the oppression of the Catholic Church against the protestants. |
Re: Jesus V Muhammed - Muslim Response - Talk Islam by hopefulLandlord: 3:10pm On Jul 18, 2017 |
Habyz: both of you are violent, does that settle it? 1 Like |
Re: Jesus V Muhammed - Muslim Response - Talk Islam by branhampaul: 3:12pm On Jul 18, 2017 |
Habyz:Middle Age jihads, boko haram, isis. all of them are islamic groups. 3 Likes |
Re: Jesus V Muhammed - Muslim Response - Talk Islam by lfleak: 3:20pm On Jul 18, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord:violence can be an elements of any individual... But Islam is not violent |
Re: Jesus V Muhammed - Muslim Response - Talk Islam by lfleak: 3:20pm On Jul 18, 2017 |
branhampaul:more reason you should watch this guy's video.. |
Re: Jesus V Muhammed - Muslim Response - Talk Islam by iamgenius(m): 5:54pm On Jul 18, 2017 |
branhampaul:When it's clear to every sensible person that those groups were the works of USA, JEWS and its allies. 1 Like |
Re: Jesus V Muhammed - Muslim Response - Talk Islam by branhampaul: 5:58pm On Jul 18, 2017 |
iamgenius:then explain why boko haram tells their victims to recite a koran verse, and when the victim is unable to do so, they slitter the victims throat. 2 Likes |
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