Thinking Out Loud! by spacetacular(f): 8:15pm On Jul 18, 2017 |
As i sign off tonight i wish to leave these resounding thoughts here for people to read. (i am beginning to get a hang of this website ![smiley](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/smiley.png) ) There is a law known as the Law of diminishing returns and in a nutshell it is used to refer to a point at which the level of profits or benefits gained is less than the amount of money or energy invested. In Christianity as we go forward we experience an increase in self value, inner strength, Increase in Joy, peace, and every other morally beneficial aspect of life plus an increase in a desire to love and live to love. However in atheism what we have is the effect of this law of diminishing returns in full swing. The longer they are atheist the more withdrawn they become. The more meaningless life begins to look and I have seen a lot of atheists ask the ULTIMATE QUESTION which is : WHAT IS THE VALUE OF BEING BORN? WHAT IS THE ESSENCE OF LIFE? WHY DO WE LIVE SO WE CAN DIE? and I have seen a lot arrive at a profound conclusion that LIFE IS MEANINGLESS. Now a lot of these atheists subscribe to evolution but not creation. They do not subscribe to THE FIRST CAUSE . However since a lot of them believe in evolution, they see plants show proof of their value and how they guard themselves from predators BECAUSE they see MEANING in their existence. For example A ROSE is so beautiful but had to develop thorns to protect itself from being eaten by animals. Cactus plants see reason for existence hence their spines which protect them from animals. Foxgloves produce several deadly chemicals namely Cardiac and steroidal glycosides whose ingestion can cause nausea, hallucinations, vomiting, convulsions and death. This is simply a defence mechanism because they see VALUE in their existence. How about lower animals like reptiles? They have a vast array of defences from biting to playing possum to camouflage to autotomy. All because THEY SEE VALUE IN THEMSELVES. Atheism would take you eventually beneath the reasoning of plants or reptiles and all you see about yourself is simply A CREATURE OF ABSOLUTELY NO SIGNIFICANCE. THIS IS A WICKED DOWNWARD SPIRAL! This is all its hyped up to be. And it's at this point we have seen people get carried away in either straight jackets or body bags. What a way to live! What a way to die! Cheers people and remember to Infuse your life with action. Don't wait for it to happen. Make it happen. Make your own future. Make your own hope. Make your own love. And whatever your beliefs, honor your creator, not by passively waiting for grace to come down from on high, but by doing what you can to make grace happen to you, right now, right down here on Earth. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Thinking Out Loud! by Ranchhoddas: 8:31pm On Jul 18, 2017 |
Wehdone Sir!!!!
A leopard will never change its spots. 5 Likes |
Re: Thinking Out Loud! by hopefulLandlord: 8:34pm On Jul 18, 2017 |
Ranchhoddas: Wehdone Sir!!!!
A leopard will never change its spots.
there did you what saw I 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Thinking Out Loud! by jonbellion(m): 8:37pm On Jul 18, 2017 |
spacetacular: [s]As i sign off tonight i wish to leave these resounding thoughts here for people to read. (i am beginning to get a hang of this website )
There is a law known as the Law of diminishing returns and in a nutshell it is used to refer to a point at which the level of profits or benefits gained is less than the amount of money or energy invested.
In Christianity as we go forward we experience an increase in self value, inner strength, Increase in Joy, peace, and every other morally beneficial aspect of life plus an increase in a desire to love and live to love.
However in atheism what we have is the effect of this law of diminishing returns in full swing.
The longer they are atheist the more withdrawn they become. The more meaningless life begins to look and I have seen a lot of atheists ask the ULTIMATE QUESTION which is :
WHAT IS THE VALUE OF BEING BORN? WHAT IS THE ESSENCE OF LIFE? WHY DO WE LIVE SO WE CAN DIE?
and I have seen a lot arrive at a profound conclusion that LIFE IS MEANINGLESS.
Now a lot of these atheists subscribe to evolution but not creation. They do not subscribe to THE FIRST CAUSE . However since a lot of them believe in evolution, they see plants show proof of their value and how they guard themselves from predators BECAUSE they see MEANING in their existence.
For example A ROSE is so beautiful but had to develop thorns to protect itself from being eaten by animals.
Cactus plants see reason for existence hence their spines which protect them from animals.
Foxgloves produce several deadly chemicals namely Cardiac and steroidal glycosides whose ingestion can cause nausea, hallucinations, vomiting, convulsions and death. This is simply a defence mechanism because they see VALUE in their existence.
How about lower animals like reptiles? They have a vast array of defences from biting to playing possum to camouflage to autotomy.
All because THEY SEE VALUE IN THEMSELVES.
Atheism would take you eventually beneath the reasoning of plants or reptiles and all you see about yourself is simply A CREATURE OF ABSOLUTELY NO SIGNIFICANCE. THIS IS A WICKED DOWNWARD SPIRAL!
This is all its hyped up to be. And it's at this point we have seen people get carried away in either straight jackets or body bags.
What a way to live! What a way to die!
Cheers people and remember to Infuse your life with action. Don't wait for it to happen. Make it happen. Make your own future. Make your own hope. Make your own love. And whatever your beliefs, honor your creator, not by passively waiting for grace to come down from on high, but by doing what you can to make grace happen to you, right now, right down here on Earth. [/s] and how is the creator the christian God Una matter don tire me 4 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Thinking Out Loud! by Ranchhoddas: 9:09pm On Jul 18, 2017 |
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Re: Thinking Out Loud! by jonbellion(m): 2:34pm On Jul 21, 2017 |
4evergod ![undecided](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/undecided.png) 5 Likes |
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Re: Thinking Out Loud! by notjonbellion(m): 10:24pm On Jul 21, 2017 |
spacetacular: As i sign off tonight i wish to leave these resounding thoughts here for people to read. (i am beginning to get a hang of this website )
There is a law known as the Law of diminishing returns and in a nutshell it is used to refer to a point at which the level of profits or benefits gained is less than the amount of money or energy invested.
In Christianity as we go forward we experience an increase in self value, inner strength, Increase in Joy, peace, and every other morally beneficial aspect of life plus an increase in a desire to love and live to love.
However in atheism what we have is the effect of this law of diminishing returns in full swing.
The longer they are atheist the more withdrawn they become. The more meaningless life begins to look and I have seen a lot of atheists ask the ULTIMATE QUESTION which is :
WHAT IS THE VALUE OF BEING BORN? WHAT IS THE ESSENCE OF LIFE? WHY DO WE LIVE SO WE CAN DIE?
and I have seen a lot arrive at a profound conclusion that LIFE IS MEANINGLESS.
Now a lot of these atheists subscribe to evolution but not creation. They do not subscribe to THE FIRST CAUSE . However since a lot of them believe in evolution, they see plants show proof of their value and how they guard themselves from predators BECAUSE they see MEANING in their existence.
For example A ROSE is so beautiful but had to develop thorns to protect itself from being eaten by animals.
Cactus plants see reason for existence hence their spines which protect them from animals.
Foxgloves produce several deadly chemicals namely Cardiac and steroidal glycosides whose ingestion can cause nausea, hallucinations, vomiting, convulsions and death. This is simply a defence mechanism because they see VALUE in their existence.
How about lower animals like reptiles? They have a vast array of defences from biting to playing possum to camouflage to autotomy.
All because THEY SEE VALUE IN THEMSELVES.
Atheism would take you eventually beneath the reasoning of plants or reptiles and all you see about yourself is simply A CREATURE OF ABSOLUTELY NO SIGNIFICANCE. THIS IS A WICKED DOWNWARD SPIRAL!
This is all its hyped up to be. And it's at this point we have seen people get carried away in either straight jackets or body bags.
What a way to live! What a way to die!
Cheers people and remember to Infuse your life with action. Don't wait for it to happen. Make it happen. Make your own future. Make your own hope. Make your own love. And whatever your beliefs, honor your creator, not by passively waiting for grace to come down from on high, but by doing what you can to make grace happen to you, right now, right down here on Earth.
suck it ![smiley](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/smiley.png) 4 Likes |
Re: Thinking Out Loud! by lepasharon(f): 9:09pm On Jul 22, 2017 |
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Re: Thinking Out Loud! by QuietHammer(m): 9:39pm On Jul 22, 2017 |
lepasharon:
![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png)
Lol at yesterdday, my ban is over.. hehehe. I guess I was right 1 Like |
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Re: Thinking Out Loud! by felixomor: 10:47pm On Jul 22, 2017 |
^^^^^ |||||||| The delusional people all above me though...... Its obvious 4everGod really dealt with you people. Chai ![undecided](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/undecided.png) By the way, nice write-up Op. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Thinking Out Loud! by akintom(m): 10:57pm On Jul 22, 2017 |
Traumatologist
Ambulance rider Felixomoron Damogul
ServantEbukasBlog
Spacetacry
ANUS007
The odious collection of Yahweh's nitwits. 2 Likes |
Re: Thinking Out Loud! by Nobody: 11:02pm On Jul 22, 2017 |
Me don miss sha 2 Likes |
Re: Thinking Out Loud! by Nobody: 11:50pm On Jul 22, 2017 |
adepeter26: Me don miss sha Where have you been??!! Hope you're good?? And yes you've missed a lot! I suspected the same thing too when that space + tacular mentioned me, I just stopped replying to them. 2 Likes |
Re: Thinking Out Loud! by ValentineMary(m): 11:54pm On Jul 22, 2017 |
spacetacular: As i sign off tonight i wish to leave these resounding thoughts here for people to read. (i am beginning to get a hang of this website )
There is a law known as the Law of diminishing returns and in a nutshell it is used to refer to a point at which the level of profits or benefits gained is less than the amount of money or energy invested.
In Christianity as we go forward we experience an increase in self value, inner strength, Increase in Joy, peace, and every other morally beneficial aspect of life plus an increase in a desire to love and live to love.
However in atheism what we have is the effect of this law of diminishing returns in full swing.
The longer they are atheist the more withdrawn they become. The more meaningless life begins to look and I have seen a lot of atheists ask the ULTIMATE QUESTION which is :
WHAT IS THE VALUE OF BEING BORN? WHAT IS THE ESSENCE OF LIFE? WHY DO WE LIVE SO WE CAN DIE?
and I have seen a lot arrive at a profound conclusion that LIFE IS MEANINGLESS.
Now a lot of these atheists subscribe to evolution but not creation. They do not subscribe to THE FIRST CAUSE . However since a lot of them believe in evolution, they see plants show proof of their value and how they guard themselves from predators BECAUSE they see MEANING in their existence.
For example A ROSE is so beautiful but had to develop thorns to protect itself from being eaten by animals.
Cactus plants see reason for existence hence their spines which protect them from animals.
Foxgloves produce several deadly chemicals namely Cardiac and steroidal glycosides whose ingestion can cause nausea, hallucinations, vomiting, convulsions and death. This is simply a defence mechanism because they see VALUE in their existence.
How about lower animals like reptiles? They have a vast array of defences from biting to playing possum to camouflage to autotomy.
All because THEY SEE VALUE IN THEMSELVES.
Atheism would take you eventually beneath the reasoning of plants or reptiles and all you see about yourself is simply A CREATURE OF ABSOLUTELY NO SIGNIFICANCE. THIS IS A WICKED DOWNWARD SPIRAL!
This is all its hyped up to be. And it's at this point we have seen people get carried away in either straight jackets or body bags.
What a way to live! What a way to die!
Cheers people and remember to Infuse your life with action. Don't wait for it to happen. Make it happen. Make your own future. Make your own hope. Make your own love. And whatever your beliefs, honor your creator, not by passively waiting for grace to come down from on high, but by doing what you can to make grace happen to you, right now, right down here on Earth.
I seriously recommend u take ur biology class serious next time, then u would understand what we mean by survival of the fittest in Darwinian theory. The best fit for society lives. The game of the natural world is eat or be eaten. That's why those organisms have defense mechanisms is not because they want to fulfill the meaning of life to an ultimate creator. Life has no laid down meaning or purpose, we define those things by our actions. If there was an ultimate meaning installed by a creator, would that not mean he is invariably responsible for the evil people commit, since he defined it? 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Thinking Out Loud! by Nobody: 11:55pm On Jul 22, 2017 |
AnonyNymous:
Where have you been??!! was getting hot over here, so I had to be off (Academics I mean) Hope you're good?? Yea bro. You too? And yes you've missed a lot! Noticed that bro. I suspected the same thing too when that space + tacular mentioned me, I just stopped replying to them. That dude n'a real scammer. Wolf in sheep clothings |
Re: Thinking Out Loud! by felixomor: 11:59pm On Jul 22, 2017 |
ValentineMary:
I seriously recommend u take ur biology class serious next time, then u would understand what we mean by survival of the fittest in Darwinian theory. The best fit for society lives. The game of the natural world is eat or be eaten. That's why those organisms have defense mechanisms is not because they want to fulfill the meaning of life to an ultimate creator. Life has no laid down meaning or purpose, we define those things by our actions. If there was an ultimate meaning installed by a creator, would that not mean he is invariably responsible for the evil people commit, since he defined it? Life has no laid down meaning or purpose, so what is good and bad? Why does it exist? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Thinking Out Loud! by ValentineMary(m): 12:12am On Jul 23, 2017 |
felixomor:
Life has no laid down meaning or purpose, so what is good and bad? Why does it exist? There is what we call civil laws and moral construct that develops from it. It is highly subjective thus buttressing my point further that we are an evolving race. eg it is okay for the San bushmen in the Kalahari to walk around naked but totally immoral to do the same in Lagos because of the varying civil laws in these 2 societies. PS: Civil law in this context must not come from a complex organised political system. It could also mean from a primitive medieval system. 3 Likes |
Re: Thinking Out Loud! by lepasharon(f): 12:17am On Jul 23, 2017 |
Who is hiding my comments? ![undecided](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/undecided.png) |
Re: Thinking Out Loud! by felixomor: 12:35am On Jul 23, 2017 |
ValentineMary:
There is what we call civil laws and moral construct that develops from it. It is highly subjective thus buttressing my point further that we are an evolving race. eg it is okay for the San bushmen in the Kalahari to walk around naked but totally immoral to do the same in Lagos because of the varying civil laws in these 2 societies. PS: Civil law in this context must not come from a complex organised political system. It could also mean from a primitive medieval system. All these things you are saying "civil law", "moral construct" etc Already defeats your argument that life has no meaning or purposeThe 2 reasons are 1. You cant categorically tell us the origins of moral construct and civil laws without a primordial superior moral constructor2. They will be useless if life had no real meaning or purpose. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Thinking Out Loud! by OtemAtum: 5:33am On Jul 23, 2017 |
lepasharon: Ride on sir! wow,at the scammers you added to Samuel Chinedum photo, I was already thinking of doing so too, but I didn't have a graphic design thing on my laptop. Pls can you give me the app u used in case u did it thru phone? Thanks so much. Otelemuye. |
Re: Thinking Out Loud! by lepasharon(f): 6:18am On Jul 23, 2017 |
OtemAtum: wow,at the scammers you added to Samuel Chinedum photo, I was already thinking of doing so too, but I didn't have a graphic design thing on my laptop. Pls can you give me the app u used in case u did it thru phone? Thanks so much. Otelemuye. Yes, I used the sketch app, photo editor |
Re: Thinking Out Loud! by OtemAtum: 6:23am On Jul 23, 2017 |
lepasharon:
Yes, I used the sketch app, photo editor okay, thanks |
Re: Thinking Out Loud! by ValentineMary(m): 1:40pm On Jul 23, 2017 |
felixomor:
All these things you are saying "civil law", "moral construct" etc Already defeats your argument that life has no meaning or purpose
The 2 reasons are 1. You cant categorically tell us the origins of moral construct and civil laws without a primordial superior moral constructor
2. They will be useless if life had no real meaning or purpose. We originated moral laws and civil laws by our communal relationship which was inevitable as man began to grow in population and the need for community across. The civil laws were ment to keep us in check. They would not be useless as they ensure the continuous growth of our species. 2 Likes |
Re: Thinking Out Loud! by felixomor: 2:05pm On Jul 23, 2017 |
ValentineMary:
We originated moral laws and civil laws by our communal relationship which was inevitable as man began to grow in population and the need for community across. The civil laws were ment to keep us in check. They would not be useless as they ensure the continuous growth of our species. Sorry who is the first superpower that wanted humans " kept in check" as you claim? Remember there is no universal purpose of life, as you claim, so why desire to keep fellow humans in check? Some of you claim the universe originated by accidental collisions, why not just allow everything to continue to collide purposelessly and aimlessly? And please who is the first man that originated "civil laws" and when? Who is the first man to originate good and bad? And other things like marriage, who originated it also? By the time, you answer these questions, Purpose and meaning will be oozing from your answers. |
Re: Thinking Out Loud! by ValentineMary(m): 2:49pm On Jul 23, 2017 |
felixomor:
Sorry who is the first superpower that wanted humans "kept in check" as you claim?
Remember there is no universal purpose of life, as you claim, so why desire to keep fellow humans in check?
Some of you claim the universe originated by accidental collisions, why not just allow everything to continue to collide purposelessly and aimlessly?
And please who is the first man that originated "civil laws" and when? Who is the first man to originate good and bad? And other things like marriage, who originated it also?
By the time, you answer these questions, Purpose and meaning will be oozing from your answers. I don't think u have been following this discussion. All these questions have been answered earlier. Me saying it again would be unnecessary repetition |
Re: Thinking Out Loud! by felixomor: 3:14pm On Jul 23, 2017 |
ValentineMary:
I don't think u have been following this discussion. All these questions have been answered earlier. Me saying it again would be unnecessary repetition Nah sorry They haven't been answered. You cant tell me you have explained the reason why laws were meant to keep all humans in check, when there is no universal entity who wants to keep them in check. Its as good as telling everyone to face a bkackboard when there is no school. It doesn't add up |
Re: Thinking Out Loud! by DeSepiero(m): 4:11pm On Jul 23, 2017 |
felixomor:
Nah sorry They haven't been answered.
You cant tell me you have explained the reason why laws were meant to keep all humans in check, when there is no universal entity who wants to keep them in check. Its as good as telling everyone to face a bkackboard when there is no school. It doesn't add up You're expecting to hear GOD? Funny!!! |
Re: Thinking Out Loud! by felixomor: 4:36pm On Jul 23, 2017 |
DeSepiero:
You're expecting to hear GOD? Funny!!! Sorry I dont need to hear God from you, anybody who knows an iota of logic already sees the hole in his argument. I know quite well you have phobia for sound logic. |
Re: Thinking Out Loud! by ValentineMary(m): 5:52pm On Jul 23, 2017 |
felixomor:
Nah sorry They haven't been answered.
You cant tell me you have explained the reason why laws were meant to keep all humans in check, when there is no universal entity who wants to keep them in check. Its as good as telling everyone to face a bkackboard when there is no school. It doesn't add up If you read above, you would see where I said that it was to maintain a flourishing society that is not in anarchy. |