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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Xbee007(m): 7:45am On Jul 19, 2017 |
Covert1:Guy Nigeria military budget will eventually get transparent, it has to, for us to win the war against corruption and have any meaningful progress as a nation. Lack of transparency got Nigeria to where it is today and we can't continue that way. Though, just like every other country it will not reveal certain info that will put our enemies at strategic advantage over us. So let us quit going about in circle arguing against fact and reality. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by officialdayo: 7:49am On Jul 19, 2017 |
ActivateKruger: Just look at what you typed. 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:08am On Jul 19, 2017 |
Nigerian COIN Nigerian army Commando 2 Likes
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:18am On Jul 19, 2017 |
Breaking News!! It has now been confirmed. Nigeria has ordered 1 SSV from Indonesia. 17 Likes 1 Share
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Patented: 8:21am On Jul 19, 2017 |
lachit my man!!!! nemesis2u: 3 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:22am On Jul 19, 2017 |
Indonesia: A New Shipbuilding 'Magnet' from ASEAN to Africa? The head of the country’s state-owned shipbuilder offers a rather optimistic reading despite the familiar challenges that remain. 10_aerial.jpg Over the weekend, the head of Indonesia’s state-owned shipbuilder PT PAL said that the firm had received several more orders to build vessels from countries from Southeast Asia to Africa following an initial success in the Philippines. His remarks on the growing attractiveness of the country’s shipbuilding industry reflect Indonesia’s desire to advance in this area despite the familiar difficulties it has faced thus far and the realities it confronts. As I have noted previously, Indonesian President Joko “Jokowi” Widodo has signaled his desire to boost the country’s domestic shipbuilding industry as part of a broader effort to strengthen the country’s maritime capabilities as well as to revolutionize its domestic defense industry (See: “An Indonesian Defense Revolution Under Jokowi?”). Seen from this perspective, PT PAL’s $92 million contract to deliver two Strategic Sealift Vessels (SSVs) to the Philippines inked back in 2014 was seen as significant because it constituted the inaugural export of locally-built warships and thus a major boost to Indonesia’s efforts to build up its domestic shipbuilding industry (See: “Indonesia to Export First Ever Warship in Boost for Shipbuilding Industry”). Though the deal was rocked by a corruption scandal earlier this year, the two vessels were delivered in May 2016 and May 2017 respectively. As those orders neared completion, Indonesian officials had been signaling that more orders would be on the way. But most of the public remarks tended to be on the Philippines itself, with two more Strategic Sealift Vessels (SSVs) on order as well as other vessels as well. On July 15, PT PAL president director Budiman Saleh reportedly publicly disclosed that the list of orders so far had not only come from the Philippines, but that the orders had served as “a magnet for other countries” to order them as well. Saleh’s suggestion was that Indonesia was becoming a more attractive and competitive choice for nations around the world. But this time around, Saleh did offer some more specifics. According to The Jakarta Post, Saleh specifically said that Malaysia had ordered a Landing Platform Dock (LPD) that could transport up to five helicopters; Nigeria had ordered one SSV; Senegal had ordered one LPD ship along with two Clurit class fast attack craft KCR-35 meter ships and three KCR-60 meter ships; and Guinea and Gabon had ordered KCR-60 meter ships. Despite Saleh’s optimism, some would quibble as to whether a few orders can really be read to constitute some sort of “magnetic attraction” stemming from the first contract in the Philippines. It is also still far from clear what the exact status of these orders are and how they will play out. But more fundamentally, the attention to specific orders downplays the broader issues that still exist with Indonesia’s domestic shipbuilding industry as well as PT PAL itself. The challenges for Indonesia’s shipbuilding industry are well-known to regional observers, and they range from the comparatively low level of expertise and technology to corruption to low production capacity. This is despite some attempts at improvements, including inking agreements with other countries and companies to increase levels of expertise and boost defense ties more generally that could also yield separate future gains. Indeed, in a ceremony last May to commemorate the historic export of the first vessel to the Philippines, Indonesian Vice-President Jusuf Kalla himself had implored the country to seize the opportunities in the global shipbuilding industry but also noted the series of steps that would be needed to actually realize this, including developing adequate skilled manpower, improving production quality and delivery times, and lowering prices. Saleh himself seemed to allude to some of this with respect to PT PAL specifically, noting that it needed the government’s support and that the company’s shipyard is still far from capacity, with workload in April being just 15 percent of total capacity. Even he no doubt understands that if Indonesia intends to become the shipbuilding magnet it aspires to be, it will need to do a whole lot more to make it more of an attraction to the world at large rather than just playing up existing ship orders. http://thediplomat.com/2017/07/indonesia-a-new-shipbuilding-magnet-from-asean-to-africa/ 4 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by GreenandGold: 8:34am On Jul 19, 2017 |
Henry240: Nice one 2 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:43am On Jul 19, 2017 |
rka2: Going back to the Chief of Naval Staff's comment. We can now strike out a few items from the list he made. -The now confirmed SSV from Indonesia should cover up the proposed LPD to be purchased. - 3 Helicopters have been bought . - 1 Seaward Defence Boat currently valued at 10 million dollars is currently being built at the Naval dockyard in Lagos. 3 Likes
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by xwolverine: 8:49am On Jul 19, 2017 |
Henry240:. Except you're Nigerian, you won't understand why Henry240 speaks of some procurement with confidence. In a normal procurement process, the military shows intent, proposals are submitted or discussed (press briefings), then funds are sourced and included in the budget. What some fail to understand is that in some cases, the Nigerian procurement process is the other way round, deals are agreed and funds are provided before you get a whiff of it. The source of funds could be from agencies like Nimasa, or in some cases NNPC. Its not a coincidence that the Speaker Dogara is speaking of special intervention funds just about the time the CNS is speaking of what they intend to get with the funds. It's a case of the more you look, the less you see. Jln115, you were saying....? 11 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jteku(m): 8:51am On Jul 19, 2017 |
Off Topic. This is the Boneyard in Tucson, AZ. It's a real place filled with over 6 trillion dollars worth of planes, over 90% of which have never left the ground in military service. The most expensive plane in this photo cost taxpayers sixteen million dollars, and was never used by our military. The new F-35 fighter will cost taxpayers more than 95 million dollars each, with a standing order for over 2,000 of these planes, an estimated 1.1 trillion dollars initial order. 2 Likes
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by officialdayo: 8:52am On Jul 19, 2017 |
Henry240:The SSV now means New vessels with AA,ashw etc are coming. Not in 5 years 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by officialdayo: 9:04am On Jul 19, 2017 |
Henry240: Congratulations to the NAVY, a lot of good news lately. 2 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by officialdayo: 9:26am On Jul 19, 2017 |
Senegal had ordered one LPD ship, two KCR-35 meter ships and three KCR-60 meter shipsThe West African waters is becoming more competitive. I am sure Senegal is planning something big for her air force. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by ActivateKruger: 9:28am On Jul 19, 2017 |
jteku: All we need is just 10 of those aircrafts to fill-up the lift gap while the USAF leaves them to rust. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by ActivateKruger: 9:29am On Jul 19, 2017 |
officialdayo: They'll probably get some used Mirage 2000s... That's my wildest guess. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by officialdayo: 9:33am On Jul 19, 2017 |
ActivateKruger: How much does a mirage2000 cost? Oh, "used". |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Fidha254(m): 9:41am On Jul 19, 2017 |
I wonder if this is some new vest that will be institutionalized for GSU and Administration police
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by ActivateKruger: 9:43am On Jul 19, 2017 |
officialdayo: I know no fixed price. They don't have to " buy" any, they good buddies with their "former" colonial boss. They can negotiate for a squadron, pay for the refurb fees and spares. I'm pretty much sure France has more than 12 Mirages they'd want to get rid off. 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Fidha254(m): 9:47am On Jul 19, 2017 |
Tinfoil:Next time, at least train yourself to appear 'neutral' instead of revealing you affiliation 2 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:01am On Jul 19, 2017 |
Henry240:If in anyway this is as a result of our neighbors activities then I pray for direct increase to their pockets! They shall keep sending therefore forcing us to do more. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by officialdayo: 10:07am On Jul 19, 2017 |
jakeporeshenko:I agree. Why is Zimbabwe not spending on its military, knowing what what she will be facing after Mugabe's era. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:17am On Jul 19, 2017 |
officialdayo:Maybe because Mugabe doesn't care what happens after his era ? He's married to the presidential seat, "until death do us oath" There this saying: Wetin consign agbero with overload. I don't know if you follow? 2 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:20am On Jul 19, 2017 |
Off topic Mi-171SH at MAKS air show 2 Likes
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:28am On Jul 19, 2017 |
Nigerian soldiers at SSG training camp in Pakistan. That slogan though. 5 Likes
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by ActivateKruger: 10:33am On Jul 19, 2017 |
jakeporeshenko: I smell a military invasion after the death of Bob. I believe there's gonna be a some infighting for power, war veterans taking different sides eventually spilling to the military... They often say I crave for blood but I say a SADC invasion will be better than dealing with a low intensity civil war, who wants to deal with the refugee mess? Definitely not South Africans. 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by achimotan(m): 10:33am On Jul 19, 2017 |
Ghana gets first female Brig-Gen The Chief of the Defence Staff (CDS),Lieutenant General Obed Boamah Akwa has officially conferred the rank of a Brigadier General on Constance Ama Emefa Edjeani-Afenu in a short ceremony at his office on Wednesday 29 March, 2017. The CDS used the opportunity to congratulate the first female Brigadier General on her new rank and noted that she was the beacon of all females in the Ghana Armed Forces (GAF) and was hopeful her position would open doors for other females to rise to equivalent ranks to support the growth of GAF Brig Gen Edjeani- Afenu in excitement thanked the entire Armed Forces for her new appointment and asked God’s guidance in all her endeavour to make an impact in her line of duty. She resumes work at the Ministry of Defence after serving as the Deputy Military Advisor to Ghana’s permanent Mission in New York since 2013. 3 Likes
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 10:43am On Jul 19, 2017 |
jakeporeshenko: In the Kings English please.... |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 10:46am On Jul 19, 2017 |
jteku:Thats hippie bullshit though Those planes have been used, else they wouldent be in the boneyard. Planes only go to the boneyard when they have flown a certain number of hours that makes it un-economical to refurbish the airframe. 3 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:48am On Jul 19, 2017 |
xwolverine:From interested a week ago and now all of a sudden its bought.....Yeah ill wait for Official confirmation from your Navy |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by bidexiii: 10:53am On Jul 19, 2017 |
Henry240: These is good news henry, can you give us the spec's. 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by officialdayo: 10:58am On Jul 19, 2017 |
jln115: Like you had an official confirmation for NNS centenary apart from the 2012 MOU? other details came out during the manufacturing You can keep waiting. Oh, I remember hmm115 said MoU is useless. 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 11:02am On Jul 19, 2017 |
ActivateKruger:Yeah I agree with you if SADC comes together and acts swiftly to intimidate power hungry fellows the situation will not deteriorate into a conflict, but who'll lead and also who bears financial responsibility ? |
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