DictatorZAR1:


Let it be because last time I checked you were one of those starting e wars here. Don't act like you're a saint

ActivateKruger:


My concern with light IFV/AMVs is the lack of protection. I wouldn't drive my guys to battle in something that will be knocked out by machine guns in an ambush.

If you put light armour to battle it better be in considerable numbers like they would do with Ratels. If it's meant to go alone it better be thicker like the Kat.


So the solution here is simple. Develop modular armour plates for this vehicle. Use 2 helicopters to deploy it. 1st helicopter drops the vehicle then the second helicopter drops the modular armour then quickly fit on the field and then hit the road.

frumentius:

It's role, at least in SA, is that of a scout or battlefield recon. Which means sacrificing protection for mobility. And of course it must pack enough punch to defend itself and get out of trouble. And knock out targets of opportunity, like a lone T-55 out for a stroll in the bush.

cristianisraeli:

jakeporeshenko:

Someone should ban this guy

ActivateKruger:
So the solution here is simple. Develop modular armour plates for this vehicle. Use 2 helicopters to deploy it. 1st helicopter drops the vehicle then the second helicopter drops the modular armour then quickly fit on the field and then hit the road.

cristianisraeli:


mumu boy..i have stayed away from ur thread am only after that racist white south african boy called dictatorzari..he keeps trolling me..am just giving him a taste of his own medicine..too many soldier boys on this thread..lol..or soldier wanna bes..lol..adios..make any of una no quote me again.i have stayed away..dont quote me again.continue with ur african stuffs..lol

jakeporeshenko:


Ibnsultaan
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Ibnsultaan
check your mentions

ActivateKruger:


A similar role vehicle in South Africa would be the Kat but look at how heavy it is. The Generals knew they wouldn't send a boy (Eland and Ratel) to do a man's job.

We can't assume that since it's for recorn then the enemy can't spot it and setup ambushes. Machine guns at flank ambush positions would kill the crew and the driver won't get time to save them (provided he lived).

Remember the Elands had to be accompanied by Buffels incase of an ambush? So it defeats the purpose of recorn when you now have a column of vehicles in the bush. So send send a thick armoured vehicle like the Kat or dress up the light vehicle with modular armour plates and save everyone.

frumentius:

Yes, in a conventional conflict. And as you point out, that's what the Rooikat is for. However, nasty little conflicts is what we're far more likely to face, and an Eland type is what we miss. Case in point, Bangui.

frumentius:

Yes, in a conventional conflict. And as you point out, that's what the Rooikat is for. However, nasty little conflicts is what we're far more likely to face, and an Eland type is what we miss. Case in point, Bangui.

Covert1:
Off Topic: Nigeria's Military is reporting that it's Fighter Jets bombed Rann based on Satellte Intelligence that showed the amassing of potential BHT elements in the area, an area which wasn't previously indicated as a humanitarian base on it's operational maps. Henceforth, information on all temporary or permanent humanitarian centers should be made available for clear indication on the Map.

ssaengine:


Is this the previous incident or a new one?

jakeporeshenko:
Nigerian Air Force platforms and some politicians in military uniform

Hrmnn:


The one place where the Eland truly shines over the Kat and Ratel 60/90 is its ability to be driven into, and dropped from, a C-130 type aircraft with minimal preparation.

Its size and weight are ideal for rapid airborne deployments, that's one reason the Israeli paratroops and the French Foreign Legion liked it so much.

I've suggested before on this thread that more African armies need to borrow a page from the Russian VDV and allow airborne units to deploy with their own armour assets as necessary.

Yes, vehicles like the Jakkals are nice for mobility, but they lack even minimal armour and firepower. Why not have a vehicle that does all three? The Eland is suitable for the task, though of course a more modern take on the same concept is preferential.

This would be a vast improvement on the defensive capabilities of the paratroopers, who are especially vulnerable in their role of light infantry.

Hrmnn:


The one place where the Eland truly shines over the Kat and Ratel 60/90 is its ability to be driven into, and dropped from, a C-130 type aircraft with minimal preparation.

Its size and weight are ideal for rapid airborne deployments, that's one reason the Israeli paratroops and the French Foreign Legion liked it so much.

I've suggested before on this thread that more African armies need to borrow a page from the Russian VDV and allow airborne units to deploy with their own armour assets as necessary.

Yes, vehicles like the Jakkals are nice for mobility, but they lack even minimal armour and firepower. Why not have a vehicle that does all three? The Eland is suitable for the task, though of course a more modern take on the same concept is preferential.

This would be a vast improvement on the defensive capabilities of the paratroopers, who are especially vulnerable in their role of light infantry.

newafricaken254:
Abrams and M-60 tank s in preparations for graduation ceremonies of the Egyptian military college

GreenandGold:
MikeCZA.. Is this you?
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TrueHeart365:
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frumentius:

A modernised MC-90 along these lines: