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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by passion007: 4:36pm On Jul 16, 2017 |
property123:Spot on, nwa afo! |
Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by OreMI22: 4:43pm On Jul 16, 2017 |
property123:.. I love those pictures. Enugu is so picturesque and an idea place for relaxation and fun theme parks. Hopefully, we can get private entrepreneurs that will set up proper amusement park in Enugu for the region and beyond. The importance of an international level recreational theme park center in Enugu has been discussed at several times in this thread. Hopefully some of those Igbos running to Gambia to build mushroom hotels for because they say there is nothing to invest in SE can learn a thing or two from the video below of Hi-Impact Amusement park owned by entrepreneurs. There is enough land along the Enugu - Onitsha expressway (A little after Ninth Mile junction) that a massive theme park can be strategic center for the region and beyond. Not to talk of the quadruple effect it would have on tourism for the state government wishing to get tourists into the state. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ESvYoxCCGc 7 Likes
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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by property123: 8:20pm On Jul 17, 2017 |
passion007: Enugu bu nke anyi 2 Likes |
Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by DelGardo: 8:50pm On Jul 17, 2017 |
nonsobaba: Nice to hear. I have heard some people accuse Buhari of killing the the Aba project. If what you say is true it means this administration is facilitating the project contrary to general perception. Thanks for the update. |
Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by SGANIVA(m): 1:01pm On Jul 18, 2017 |
the governor is doing nothing , I went to enugu and I was disappointed .refused domp every were, pot holes appearing every were .some body should tell this governor to be serious abeg 6 Likes |
Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by property123: 3:03pm On Jul 19, 2017 |
OreMI22: Honestly any investors that does this will really reap bountifully. |
Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Afam4eva(m): 4:05pm On Jul 19, 2017 |
OreMI22:I thought i was the only one actually thinking of how great an Amusement park will do for Enugu. It will definitely put Enugu on the map. It's not just any kind but world class. 4 Likes |
Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by ChimaAdeoye: 4:34pm On Jul 19, 2017 |
OreMI22: Most of our business people building hotels in south africa and gambia can actually invest in a wotld class theme park in Enugu in partnership with the state government. It will be a money spinner for the investor as well as help the state improve its global tourism destination rating. |
Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Goodnuel: 5:56pm On Jul 21, 2017 |
SGANIVA:Could you list where the pot holes are coming up?? |
Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Ogbuefi2020: 10:27pm On Jul 24, 2017 |
SGANIVA:Maintenance of all infrastructures are on going in Enugu, Even if you saw pot hole, how does that translate to "the governor is doing nothing"? 3 Likes
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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Ogbuefi2020: 10:42pm On Jul 24, 2017 |
spyder880:what will you move from Enugu to Onitsha? A distance that can be covered by a motorcycle in few hours?? will you move palm oil from Enugu to Onitsha instead of Enugu to Yola or Maiduguri? which one is more profitable? Will you move Aba made shoes to Owerri instead of Aba to Jos when someone in owerri can easily jog to Aba ? Please throw that rail plan into the dustbin, it is isolationist and economically unviable. We need rails, yes, but we need rails to connect us to other parts of Nigeria especially large cities not rail connecting all villages which are almost the same. Its like telling an airline to ply Enugu -Owerri or PH -Uyo. Nobody will invest in your pipedream 1 Like |
Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Ogbuefi2020: 10:47pm On Jul 24, 2017 |
Cjrane2:The bolded is where you shot yourself in the leg, i advocate for PH Maiduguri line, not your tiny village to village pipe dream, so i am not part of your imaginary enemy |
Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Scholes007(m): 10:56pm On Jul 24, 2017 |
Ogbuefi2020:What are you my friend? What do you mean by village railway? 6 Likes |
Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Ogbuefi2020: 11:00pm On Jul 24, 2017 |
Live from Michael Okpara Square, Enugu Passing out Parade: The Enugu State Ministry of Transport Traffic Enforcement Bureau Cadets good to go! 4 Likes
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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Ogbuefi2020: 11:10pm On Jul 24, 2017 |
Scholes007:Lol, some even want the rail to reach every doorsteps. Zamfara sent livestock to Lagos through rail https://www.nairaland.com/3328490/cattle-arrived-lagos-zamfara-after It would have been meaningless for zamfara to spend huge sum building Zamfara sokoto line to send cattle to sokoto when sokoto itslef have cattle abundantly. You can be sure that a reasonable percentage of the livestock that boarded at zamfara came from sokoto, kebi etc. Apart from the PH-Maiduguri line, the Lagos-Calabar line that spurs to Onitsha will make sense if it stretches to Awka-Enugu-Abakaliki, Thus, two major lines will connect SE to the rest of the country |
Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Scholes007(m): 11:27pm On Jul 24, 2017 |
Ogbuefi2020:Am not interested in whatever Sokoto and Zamfara did to Lagos. Someone proposed a rail that will run from PH-Enugu n you called it a village road. You went ahead to say it should pass through large cities. Then I ask is PH-Aba-Umuahia-Enugu small cities? Well that aside you rushed to tag it non viable, I ask again how will we develop our export,Alternative means of tranport,agricultural and industrial sectors without inter-connecting railway. Studies n all indication is showing that in no distant time south eastern state will have an unbearable population density, then I ask how do we transport ourselves and goods? By your analogy, Kuwait, UAE, Israel shouldn't have a railway. New York shouldn't have a rail connecting it with Philadelphia. Pls remove this mentality of Nigeria n put up progressive one. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by igwebuike01: 11:34pm On Jul 24, 2017 |
Scholes007:This is a part of the PH-Maiduguri line, and its viability is based on the fact that it connects numerous cities in the north, this is the line i advocate for, so i wonder why you are using it to ask me questions on viability. Kuwait and UAE have the money, we don't, they have since solved other minor issues we are still battling with, secondly, they are sovereign countries, we are not. Modernizing the PH maiduguri line and connecting us to SW is what we need
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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by igwebuike01: 11:56pm On Jul 24, 2017 |
davear:Lol, THose roads are not the busiest in Nigeria, yes, solid rail line is needed in east, but it is to connect us to other parts of Nigeria. This rail line is economically dead if its not connecting many far big cities in other parts of the country |
Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by spyder880(m): 5:31am On Jul 25, 2017 |
Ogbuefi2020: My brother, your points sound so out of line that I wonder if you have even stayed around the South East. I lost the will to reply you when you said I can use motorcycle to transport my goods from Enugu to Onitsha and vice versa. I just think you are joking or trying to get a reaction from us. Have a nice day all the same. 5 Likes |
Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Scholes007(m): 6:05am On Jul 25, 2017 |
igwebuike01:Your maiduguri line and Lagos line should be an FG problem. My problem with you is saying that the SE-PH-Akwa ibom rail link as proposed by someone here is not vaible. For internationally recognized development to occur in the region then regional rail link is the answer. For you to invite say multi billion dollar projects in Solid mineral mining n processing with ease regional rail is Ideal. So my friend stop this mentality of nothing will work n put up a progressive thinking cap. Tomorrow You maybe a leader, we will not want a replica of Davi Umahi or the local champion T A Orji in the helm of affairs. We want forward thinkers not Today lets manage thinkers. We have the human resources, we need the leaders that can tap into it. Ask yourself why is Kaduna-Abuja line built? Why? Because they envisage future population growth between both cities. Now tell me is Enugu-PH rail not more Ideal than that? Is Asaba-Onitcha-Aba-Ph rail not more Ideal than that? Is Ibuno-Aba rail not more important than that? Ponder on these and pls stop talking down on such enviable proposals. Who knows if our future leaders are reading these? Who knows if investors are reading too, who knows If this will create a sense into our leaders today. Goodmorning n have a nice day. 6 Likes |
Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by OreMI22: 11:17am On Jul 25, 2017 |
Scholes007: Nwanne save your breathe. It is obvious the imposter calling himself ogbuefi is one of those afonjas terribly bitter about any infrastructure being developed in the SE so that they continue their dominance of Nigerian economy. Most of them a particularly wary of Enugu's natural attractions and location. Let them call regional railway local roads or whatever. In Nigeria, the federal roads are intentionally neglected in the SE just to help ruin economic development in the area. Then they placed a ban on building regional railways. These are some of the things we must extricate ourselves from in either a fair restructured country or we live in our own country -Biafra to stay outside the influence of these vultures that deceive themselves with names like ogbuefi. A state like Georgia in the USA links all it's major cities with railway lines and links up with the national railway too. Even though they have very good roads. The railways haul goods and services cheaply around the state. Part of the reason made in Nigeria goods are not competitive to export outside Nigeria is the exorbitant cost of transportation and use of diesel generators as electricity source for their production. Our enemies know these, that is why they will never let electricity of railway transportation work. But we shall fight for our rights to develop these things on our own since we know the Fulani or Yoruba government will NEVER do them in our area of Nigeria. See Freight trains in the picture below taking goods in containers to small towns of America. Towns not even as large as Awgu. Railways makes cost of transportation cheap and saves the roads from all the thousands of trailers carrying just one container. I know that ogbuefi guy knows it, that is why he isn't arguing against railway line between Abuja and Kaduna that already have excellent dual carriage expressway, but will argue against Enugu because he hates the area as many Fulani and Yorubas do. 4 Likes
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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Ogbuefi2020: 10:15pm On Jul 26, 2017 |
spyder880:Its a figure of speech called hyperbole |
Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Ogbuefi2020: 10:20pm On Jul 26, 2017 |
Big question? Why are the luxurious buses not plying Enugu to Owerri, Onitsha to Awka, Aba to Afikpo, etc? These are owned almost 100% by the Igbos, yet go to their park, its Aba to Yola, Onitsha to Sokoto, Enugu to Kano or Owerri to Lagos. The reason is simple, the short distances within the small geographical area of South East are not viable routes for that level of transport business. How much more railway? |
Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Ogbuefi2020: 10:38pm On Jul 26, 2017 |
Scholes007:Abuja-Kaduna rail line was executed by FG using the Petrodollar. Every lender will gladly give Nigeria or Kuwait or UAE money to execute projects, in fact, they will exaggerate the economic impacts to unrealistic levels to lure them to borrow, do you know why? whether the projects is viable or not, they will still get their money back with interest because the borrower has steady streams of income from oil. This is not the case with your proposed rail line, where the lender has to depend on money generated by the project to have his money back, nobody will invest in that unviable tiny route, like i said before about luxurious buses, they do not ply that tiny route for same reason and they are all igbo owned. As for Abuja-Kaduna route, its equivalent in the east is Abuja-Enugu line or a spur of PH-Maiduguri line from Lafia to Abuja not the ones you are mentioning. 1 Like |
Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Afam4eva(m): 10:46pm On Jul 26, 2017 |
Ogbuefi2020:Are those big red buses that only ply Urban Enugu not also viable cos i don't understand how you would equate luxury buses not plying major south eastern cities as not been viable without considering the fact that there are thousands of small buses that ply these routes and are making a killing. So, how does having luxury buses change anything when they're just meant to add luxury to the trip and the reason why luxury buses are needs for longer trips is because they are longer trips. It's that simple. 7 Likes |
Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Ogbuefi2020: 10:55pm On Jul 26, 2017 |
OreMI22:Oga, forget your dreamland and wake up to reality. the Economy of Georgia thrashed the whole of Nigeria and the size of Georgia is like one sixth that of Nigeria. Georgia has the income to execute the project, we do not.
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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Scholes007(m): 11:00pm On Jul 26, 2017 |
Ogbuefi2020:I don't just get you logic at all? What are U even saying? You talk viability, you talk Petrodallar, you imply nepotism... All in one reply. 4 Likes |
Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Ogbuefi2020: 11:04pm On Jul 26, 2017 |
Afam4eva:You are making same mistake others on this thread are making, the red buses plying Enugu Urban are government subsidized buses, same with other city buses all over Nigeria. They are not strictly for profit but government social program, otherwise, trust our business savvy transport monguls to have invested in it long ago. Its just like someone talking about rail lines in kuwait or other small countries, these were paid for from government coffers which is overflowing with Petrodollar and need not be viable to attract lenders. But your proposed rail will be strictly financed with private sector money and paying back depends on money generated from the project. These numerous villages at short distance will not excite any lender under such condition |
Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Scholes007(m): 11:05pm On Jul 26, 2017 |
Ogbuefi2020:When was Georgia railbuilt? |
Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Ogbuefi2020: 11:07pm On Jul 26, 2017 |
Scholes007:Ok, i believe some will understand my logic and come up with any counter logic for me to clear myself |
Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Afam4eva(m): 11:07pm On Jul 26, 2017 |
Ogbuefi2020:Based on your premise then a rail line would not even be built in Nigeria at all because the cities that are better than those in the east are no more than 4 in number and taking into consideration that most things that are produced in Nigeria are in the lagos axis and most of the consumers are there as well, it's justified not to build a rail line anywhere. 5 Likes 1 Share |
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