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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 8:10am On Jul 28, 2017
lordfalcao:
I don't think if the club have a player like ousamane dembele , asensio they will be moving on loan.. What we have is the adama traore type of players like musonda and co...

Another rubbish post.....

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 8:15am On Jul 28, 2017
diggz:


Na so....no be only football knowledge than chalobah,na laziness knowledge than chalobah.

You are here to defend Mikels balls without even getting the main point of the post made by kesh.

there is no point made in that post abeg. When Mikel was playing in Chelsea how old was chalobah? 19, 20,21?? The only season Mikel didn't play a match chalobah was still behind Matic, Kante, Fabregas. So how did the club sacrifice chalobah chances for Mikel ??

As usual conte have said it all..

lordfalcao:
You have to take a decision and to understand what is best for the club. Sometimes young players lose their patience very quickly, a lot of time because of parents or the people around them.”

“Trust the club, work very hard because to play at this level you must be stronger — and very good. Sometimes young players think that they can play easily in the first team but that’s not true.”

Conte on Chalobah..
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 8:23am On Jul 28, 2017
lordfalcao:
I don't think if the club have a player like ousamane dembele , asensio they will be moving on loan.. What we have is the adama traore type of players like musonda and co...

Exactly.

I'm keen to see what Abraham can do sha.

He has a lot of promise
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 8:23am On Jul 28, 2017
diggz:


Another rubbish post.....
your opinion... The gulf between the two players no bi here...

Why one is playing like a player with a brain of a 25yr old making big decision in his first year in dortmund, whilst stealing a chance at the NT. The other is playing like someone with the brain of an 18yr old....

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 9:57am On Jul 28, 2017
Nihilist:

My brother, you only have something to lose if you sell those dodgy kodi boxes, not if you already have one... grin

Streaming on Kodi is now illegal as of May 2017. While they will probably not hand you a custodial sentence, I would rather tread with caution as per say accountants (and lawyers or doctors) could be barred for any slight misdemeanor. Most Kodi streams use http not Https, I no want hear say PoPo knock my door to use me for example abeg. "Everybody does it" no be excuse under law if they decide to go after a small sample of users to make a statement.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by bigkesh(m): 10:24am On Jul 28, 2017
lordfalcao:
I don't think if the club have a player like ousamane dembele , asensio they will be moving on loan.. What we have is the adama traore type of players like musonda and co...
Another nonsense

One minute you are here supporting Conte on Chalobah's sake because Bakayoko is a lot more experienced and has played over 100 games for Monaco while Chalobah played in division 2

The next minute you name Asensio,the same Asencio that Madrid bought for peanuts and played ahead of James and Morata with over 100 UCL apps combined...You see your life?
That is a club promoting a youngster despite having James and Morata on the bench


Let us assume that our youth(back to back youth UEFA champions) are not good,are out players as good as the ones on Madrid bench
If they are not one Asensio's level that shouldn't stop them since Willian,Pedro aren't on James and Morata is level.........
What a minute,Willian might not even on Asensio's level so WTF are you saying?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 10:34am On Jul 28, 2017
bigkesh:

Another nonsense


What a minute,Willian is not even on Asensio's level so WTF are you saying?

shocked
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 10:43am On Jul 28, 2017
OMG,.. lmao, people here can compare illogical eh, geez, it's like trying to understand a toddler teach calculus...

Haha Mikel n Nathaniel, willian n asensio,...

Am guessing not every1 here is a Chelsea fan, cus I wud feel ashamed being a Chelsea fan if that's the case... gosh the impolite vomiting of trash with full confidence is amusing.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 11:13am On Jul 28, 2017
Need some info is der a right wing back better than Moses (not speculation wud like to know d person's last season's stats)


I know Chelsea don't desperately need Sandro but @ £60m (wish it wud reduce to £50m) considering mendy was sold for £52m seems okay (love Alonso's game wud hate to see him on bench but if matic is sold for £50, Alonso might play well in his midfield slot maybe better Dan matic)




Chelsea have done pretty well signing 4 players in 3weeks but it's been a week now no concrete info (reliable sources)
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Griffon(m): 11:21am On Jul 28, 2017
The good folks at The Telegraph are reporting that Conte has spoken to Bayern manager Carlo Ancelotti about the prospect on landing Renato Sanchez on loan this summer.

Good addition I say. Speak of squad depth.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 11:32am On Jul 28, 2017
Chelsea wants to sign an English international, Conte says he would like to have kane (very unlikely but u never know) , some say it's Ox and Barkley and another Ali...

Then Sam said something infuriating, dat if RLC has left Chelsea five years ago he would have been like Ali, that's BS, Ali made a wonderful entrance into Epl when given the opportunity with his performance. Then was it Chelsea's style of play dat prevented his development (even Renato sanchez didn't break into a title winning squad n definitely it isn't because he lacked potential) Ruben is an OK player, even Pobga focused n forced his way into Juve first eleven not because they lacked midfielders. Has RLC ever performed better than d first team midfielders?

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 11:39am On Jul 28, 2017
Griffon:
The good folks at The Telegraph are reporting that Conte has spoken to Bayern manager Carlo Ancelotti about the prospect on landing Renato Sanchez on loan this summer.

Good addition I say. Speak of squad depth.

No point loaning a player to put him on the bench. Not sure where he fits in 3-4-3
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 11:42am On Jul 28, 2017
Griffon:
The good folks at The Telegraph are reporting that Conte has spoken to Bayern manager Carlo Ancelotti about the prospect on landing Renato Sanchez on loan this summer.

Good addition I say. Speak of squad depth.


Won't be a bad addition tho...
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 11:50am On Jul 28, 2017
Ibime:


No point loaning a player to put him on the bench. Not sure where he fits in 3-4-3

You have a point here however only Conte knows what he has planned out for the season. So I want to believe each player he is signing will fit into this plan.

Na sidon look I dey for now ooo
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Griffon(m): 11:52am On Jul 28, 2017
Ibime:
No point loaning a player to put him on the bench. Not sure where he fits in 3-4-3

Can't be worse than paying 33m for a forward only to make him Costa's understudy.

Sanchez will have a role to play here. It's four competitions for us this season, we need a fat squad.

The only question is where would he fit in?

He is too much of a runner to compete with Cesc and co in the CM, so I am seeing this bwoy giving Pedro, Willian and Hazard a run for their money down the flanks.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 11:58am On Jul 28, 2017
I tried checking something because of all the noise people make about club academic graduates not being promoted to first team. Correct me if am mistaking, the number per team with consistent (in first eleven) appearances last season of players graduated in the past 3years
Not youth players bought by the club, consistent with @least 30 appearances
Top ten teams in the world
Real Madrid 1
Barca 1
Chelsea 0
Manchester City 0
Juventus 0
Bayern 0
PSG 0
Manchester United 1
Arsenal 0
ATM 1 nt sure
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 12:43pm On Jul 28, 2017
BlueAngel444:
I tried checking something because of all the noise people make about club academic graduates not being promoted to first team. Correct me if am mistaking, the number per team with consistent (in first eleven) appearances last season of players graduated in the past 3years
Not youth players bought by the club, consistent with @least 30 appearances
Top ten teams in the world
Real Madrid 1
Barca 1
Chelsea 0
Manchester City 0
Juventus 0
Bayern 0
PSG 0
Manchester United 1
Arsenal 0
ATM 1 nt sure


The only problem I have is including Chelsea in that list cool


Big clubs like man utd need like 2 decades of Youth setups coupled with huge reputations and trophies before they start producing world class Players consistently
CHELSEA DOESN'T BELONG TO SUCH ELITES.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 12:52pm On Jul 28, 2017
bigkesh:

Another nonsense

One minute you are here supporting Conte on Chalobah's sake because Bakayoko is a lot more experienced and has played over 100 games for Monaco while Chalobah played in division 2

The next minute you name Asensio,the same Asencio that Madrid bought for peanuts and played ahead of James and Morata with over 100 UCL apps combined...You see your life?
That is a club promoting a youngster despite having James and Morata on the bench


Let us assume that our youth(back to back youth UEFA champions) are not good,are out players as good as the ones on Madrid bench
If they are not one Asensio's level that shouldn't stop them since Willian,Pedro aren't on James and Morata is level.........
What a minute,Willian might not even on Asensio's level so WTF are you saying?
you see how you love to spew nonsense all the time.

You are trying to use Mikel as a scape goat for chalobah stalled development but that logic already failed before arrival. Mikel all his career in Chelsea have never been first choice in midfield except maybe in 2012, despite playing alongside mildfielders like Essien, makelele, ballack, deco, lampard and others..

Even a midfielder like oriol romeo, MCeachran who looked as better mildfielders than chalobah found it hard to make it that they had to leave for a better playing time. Now replace Mikel who has been playing most of his Chelsea games from substitute with Chalobah and tell us how chalobah could have developed. So stop using cheap logic that won't work here.

Asensio and dembele are one of the best u21 wingers out there. Musonda is not on the same level with them. Why asensio and dembele are stealing the show with little minutes, musonda is struggling to play a full season at real betis and still aspiring to become an adama traore . so don't compare them because if asensio and dembele are in Chelsea ATM they won't be going on needless loans.

On the remainder of your post i don't found any valuable point in it.. Because if you can tell us that:
Kennedy is x4 the LB Alonso is
Victor moses a better winger than Pedro and William combine.
Chalobah is a better midfield than Matic
Or rather musonda a better winger than pedro.
Why wont I take I agree that William is not in asensio level smiley

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 12:54pm On Jul 28, 2017
BlueAngel444:
OMG,.. lmao, people here can compare illogical eh, geez, it's like trying to understand a toddler teach calculus...

Haha Mikel n Nathaniel, willian n asensio,...

Am guessing not every1 here is a Chelsea fan, cus I wud feel ashamed being a Chelsea fan if that's the case... gosh the impolite vomiting of trash with full confidence is amusing.
its only bigkesh can tell you that Kenneth omeruo (23) is better than Cahill because Kenneth omeruo is a youth. So don't be shocked..

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 12:56pm On Jul 28, 2017
Griffon:
The good folks at The Telegraph are reporting that Conte has spoken to Bayern manager Carlo Ancelotti about the prospect on landing Renato Sanchez on loan this summer.

Good addition I say. Speak of squad depth.
we don't need this one. Let him fight for a spot in the midfield with his age mate tollisso. Chelsea is no development center...
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 12:59pm On Jul 28, 2017
lordfalcao:
its only bigkesh can tell you that Kenneth omeruo (23) is better than Cahill because Kenneth omeruo is a youth. So don't be shocked..

Falls from Mango tree...Yeeeee

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 1:02pm On Jul 28, 2017
Vanquay:



The only problem I have is including Chelsea in that list cool


Big clubs like man utd need like 2 decades of Youth setups coupled with huge reputations and trophies before they start producing world class Players consistently
CHELSEA DOESN'T BELONG TO SUCH ELITES.

Am guessing ur 1 of does b**** dat like to pee in d men's room n peep n wat der mothers cudnt see.... (translation: why is an Imb*** n imp commenting on my post)

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 1:03pm On Jul 28, 2017
lordfalcao:
we don't need this one. Let him fight for a spot in the midfield with his age mate tollisso. Chelsea is no development center...

In a 3-5-2 format
Sanches, although not the perfect fit, is certainly a better option than Fabregas. The fluidity in his game will ease pressure on Bakayoko and Kante, while also providing the necessary support to the top two. With the excessively creative Eden Hazard likely to be paired with Alvaro Morata up front, Sanches could be a decent foil.

Moreover, Conte has already proven his ability to teach players unfamiliar roles. Sanches looks like an ideal person to be moulded into that spare midfield position. At his age as well, he will probably pick up things much quicker than Fabregas, for example.

With a loan deal, the Blues will also have a year to evaluate whether he is suitable in the long-term. Given the wealth of talent currently in the German capital, Bayern may be vulnerable to a tempting offer. If everything goes to plan, Chelsea could set up their midfield for the next decade.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 1:07pm On Jul 28, 2017
BlueAngel444:


Am guessing ur 1 of does b**** dat like to pee in d men's room n peep n wat der mothers cudnt see.... (translation: why is an Imb*** n imp commenting on my post)

If you die today...the world won't notice but please include in your will that I get an invitation to your funeral oh wait you broke as hell and have no possessions, No loved ones...Nothing, DAMN fool, that's depressing.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 1:10pm On Jul 28, 2017
grin grin grin even if am to follow who scored evaluation on the style of play of this 3 players. Currently musonda know where he belong cheesy ( 4 man post things)

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 1:15pm On Jul 28, 2017
So what some people are trying to say is that our academy hasn't produced any good player, only Adama Traores huh??


Alright, lemme find the link to one article by Joe Tweedie of WAGNH on Chelsea's academy

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by bigkesh(m): 1:23pm On Jul 28, 2017
lordfalcao:
you see how you love to spew nonsense all the time.

You are trying to use Mikel as a scape goat for chalobah stalled development but that logic already failed before arrival. Mikel all his career in Chelsea have never been first choice in midfield except maybe in 2012, despite playing alongside mildfielders like Essien, makelele, ballack, deco, lampard and others..

Even a midfielder like oriol romeo, MCeachran who looked as better mildfielders than chalobah found it hard to make it that they had to leave for a better playing time. Now replace Mikel who has been playing most of his Chelsea games from substitute with Chalobah and tell us how chalobah could have developed. So stop using cheap logic that won't work here.

Asensio and dembele are one of the best u21 wingers out there. Musonda is not on the same level with them. Why asensio and dembele are stealing the show with little minutes, musonda is struggling to play a full season at real betis and still aspiring to become an adama traore . so don't compare them because if asensio and dembele are in Chelsea ATM they won't be going on needless loans.

On the remainder of your post i don't found any valuable point in it.. Because if you can tell us that:
Kennedy is x4 the LB Alonso is
Victor moses a better winger than Pedro and William combine.
Chalobah is a better midfield than Matic
Or rather musonda a better winger than pedro.
Why wont I take I agree that William is not in asensio level smiley
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by bigkesh(m): 1:24pm On Jul 28, 2017
lordfalcao:
you see how you love to spew nonsense all the time.

You are trying to use Mikel as a scape goat for chalobah stalled development but that logic already failed before arrival. Mikel all his career in Chelsea have never been first choice in midfield except maybe in 2012, despite playing alongside mildfielders like Essien, makelele, ballack, deco, lampard and others..

Even a midfielder like oriol romeo, MCeachran who looked as better mildfielders than chalobah found it hard to make it that they had to leave for a better playing time. Now replace Mikel who has been playing most of his Chelsea games from substitute with Chalobah and tell us how chalobah could have developed. So stop using cheap logic that won't work here.

Asensio and dembele are one of the best u21 wingers out there. Musonda is not on the same level with them. Why asensio and dembele are stealing the show with little minutes, musonda is struggling to play a full season at real betis and still aspiring to become an adama traore . so don't compare them because if asensio and dembele are in Chelsea ATM they won't be going on needless loans.

On the remainder of your post i don't found any valuable point in it.. Because if you can tell us that:
Kennedy is x4 the LB Alonso is
Victor moses a better winger than Pedro and William combine.
Chalobah is a better midfield than Matic
Or rather musonda a better winger than pedro.
Why wont I take I agree that William is not in asensio level smiley

Is Asencio a regular?
Was Thiago a regular at Barca?
Is Holding a regular at Arsenal?
Is Batshuayi a regular
That ends that dumb logic right there



It is so much better to keep shut your mouth if you don't know facts
In his first 6 months,Musonda was the best young player in Spain,I think that includes Asencio
When he went for his second spell they changed the coach to a more defensive one and he was fighting injuries
But then again,What do you know?


If Madrid offer Willian/Asensio swap,Willian will be on the next flight to Spain Asap

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 1:25pm On Jul 28, 2017
Chelsea won't be signing any more strikers or attacking players (if richalison then to be loaned) has hinted 3-5-2 the two being 1 striker (we have two) and one supporting striker (Hazard, Pedro n maybe Willian.
Alex Sandro contains similar traits of both Alonso and Moses. Last season, Sandro played in both left back (17 app) and was deployed in a wing back position (15 app). Furthermore, Sandro enjoys tackling, attempting 2.9 tackles a game according to WhoScored.

This indicates that Sandro has the flexibility and is comfortable in playing in both positions, which appeals to Conte’s style of play.

 

Attacking mentality

Although primarily a defender, Sandro can also provide an attacking threat when needs be. Sandro was called upon by Juventus to play higher up the field and was once used in the forward line.

Furthermore, Sandro scored three goals and provided four assists in Serie A last season, which shows he can be as dangerous going forward as he is marshalling the defence.



Additionally, Sandro enjoys taking on players and is known putting in crosses from the flanks, which is ideal for any hit man in front of goal. From a passing perception, Sandro has completed just under 85% of his passes in 2310 minutes of Serie A football.

This signifies he has composure on the ball and has the ability to pick out players with his passes.

 

A proven winner

It is not just his playing style that entices Conte, it is also the winning mentality Alex Sandro offers.

To date, Sandro has won titles in Italy, Portugal (FC Porto), while also picking up the Copa  Libertadores while at Santos. He also reached the Champions League final last season, which should provide pivotal European experience for Chelsea’s return this coming season if Sandro joins.

Although this feature is not primarily essential for Conte and Chelsea, it does indicate that Sandro has the assertive to be a champion and can cope with the pressure that comes with it.

 

Is he worth it?

With the massive price tag on his head, one must ponder the question is Sandro worth it?

From an idealistic perspective, no as his value seems excessive. If Sandro had the same experiences and skills five years ago, he would be valued around 25-30 million pounds, which would be a more realistic price.

However, giving the fact the inflation of transfer fees in the current window and Juventus not willing to depart with Sandro cheaply (due to the loss of Leonardo Bonucci to AC Milan), this price tag seems acceptable in this current market.



Curiously, with reports suggesting Juventus are interested in Chelsea player Nemanja Matic, one must wonder can a cheaper deal be struck between the two clubs.

 

Are there alternatives?

Despite their continuous pursuing of Sandro, they are other “cheaper” alternatives who can fit the bill at Stamford Bridge.

One is old boy Ryan Bertrand, who was linked with Manchester City earlier in the summer. Bertrand has come off an impressive season at Southampton, where he reached the League Cup final and was named in the PFA team of the year in the 14/15 season.

Additionally, Bertrand receives regular England call ups and also provides the home grown quota, which would appeal to Chelsea.

According to various reports within the British media, Southampton would demand between 30-40 million pounds for the player. This would save Chelsea around 20 million in transfer fees.

 

Verdict

Overall, the abilities of Alex Sandro fits a team like Chelsea.

He he can play in more than one position and has an attacking mentality that would add depth and fire power to the Chelsea squad for the upcoming season. Additionally, he has played in teams that defended titles, something Chelsea will be seeking to do this season.

This would be the signing of the summer.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 1:25pm On Jul 28, 2017
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by bigkesh(m): 1:26pm On Jul 28, 2017
Prodigy4rii:
So what some people are trying to say is that our academy hasn't produced any good player, only Adama Traores huh??


Alright, lemme find the link to one article by Joe Tweedie of WAGNH on Chelsea's academy



Pay no attention to them
Liverpool,United and Arsenal are playing their youths,the same boys that our boys beat steadily

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:26pm On Jul 28, 2017
BlueAngel444:
I tried checking something because of all the noise people make about club academic graduates not being promoted to first team. Correct me if am mistaking, the number per team with consistent (in first eleven) appearances last season of players graduated in the past 3years
Not youth players bought by the club, consistent with @least 30 appearances
Top ten teams in the world
Real Madrid 1
Barca 1
Chelsea 0
Manchester City 0
Juventus 0
Bayern 0
PSG 0
Manchester United 1
Arsenal 0
ATM 1 nt sure

Why did you limit it to 3 years why not find players who played in their academy and are In the first team

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