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Re: Why Do You As An Individual Want The Creation Of Biafra? by Nobody: 2:55pm On Jul 29, 2017
5DMindset:


You are a product of your environment, and I am a product of my environment. What is impossible for you, depends on the constructs that you are inducted with. I understand that the educational system these days in Nigeria makes people more hopeless than there were before getting into school. That is why we send our folks to study abroad, where impossibility means nothing.

I tell you that I have access to a technology that can power Nigeria with electricity in 10 months as long as our grid can handle it, and you say it is impossible. Is it impossible to you or impossible to me ? Some of you still buy your drinking water. Is that an impossibility to produce ? That is lack of wisdom. I will not bore you with what I can do, because it remains my private business. But do not say it is impossible to implement, because such systems are already working in other countries we have installed.

Remember, I am not one of your local tribalist so when responding to me, count me out of the tantrums.
No disrespect bro.....I am just sayingbif peradventure Biafra is achieved, Nigerians going there will be like going to other states actors in the international system.... So I can't just pack my bags and say I want to go to Biafra today because of Visa and stuff. Will Biafra give Nigerians visa? The relatinship wont be that cordial( Korea comes to mind) This is what I meant earlier....
Re: Why Do You As An Individual Want The Creation Of Biafra? by DocHMD: 3:01pm On Jul 29, 2017
The cantankerous yoruba OP had his mind already WIRED AGAINST BIAFRANS while pretending to 'REALLY CARE" about wanting to know why Biafrans want Biafra.

Afonjas and their anti-Biafran fears. grin

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Re: Why Do You As An Individual Want The Creation Of Biafra? by jargo89(m): 3:02pm On Jul 29, 2017
I wish you Easterners were more diplomatic and less emotional. This mod just placed a fine question to hear you guy's opinion over your agitation. But majority of you feels he has no right to ask. Do you even know what position he might attain later. Do you even know if the fate of Biafra may one day rest on his shoulders?

This is a beautiful forum where you guys could showcase the intelligence you've always been keen to brag about. Instead most i av seen are insults reserved for the mod.
Re: Why Do You As An Individual Want The Creation Of Biafra? by DocHMD: 3:03pm On Jul 29, 2017
jargo89:
I wish you Easterners were more diplomatic and less emotional. This mod just placed a fine question to hear you guy's opinion over your agitation. But majority of you feels he has no right to ask. Do you even know what position he might attain later. Do you even know if the fate of Biafra may one day rest on his shoulders?

This is a beautiful forum where you guys could showcase the intelligence you've always been keen to brag about. Instead most i av seen are insults reserved for the mod.


Is the OP inteliigent? grin

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Re: Why Do You As An Individual Want The Creation Of Biafra? by jargo89(m): 3:04pm On Jul 29, 2017
DocHMD:


Is the OP inteliigent? grin
You have a reason to believe he is not?
Re: Why Do You As An Individual Want The Creation Of Biafra? by dudebuck: 3:06pm On Jul 29, 2017
shoyemiayodeji:



And your reason being that?
did You see what happened in the senate?
Re: Why Do You As An Individual Want The Creation Of Biafra? by Nobody: 3:07pm On Jul 29, 2017
shoyemiayodeji:

No disrespect bro.....I am just say if peradventure Biafra is achieved, Nigerians going there will be like going to other states actors in the international system.... So I can't just pack my bags and say I want to go to Biafra today because of Visa and stuff. Will Biafra give Nigerians visa? This is what I meant earlier....

ECOWAS member states do not require VISA. With just your international passport you can visit any of the 16 member states without a VISA. Biafra, if it comes to fruition will be a member of ECOWAS and the extant laws will supercede local laws.

This is why I advise people not to be tribalists or even nationalists. As much as possible, people should be global citizens that can choose to live at any part of the globe as long as good life is assured. This is the original intention of nature.

When people's view becomes narrow, their limitations becomes amplified. Such situations bring all sorts of dissonants and discordant issues due to limited resources and death of possibilities.

There is a place that 100K naira monthly recurring income can make you live like a King and there is yet another place that you can not survive with a 100K income stream. A natural being is supposed to drift towards the location that he is more comfortable living with his resources available instead of sitting tight and increasing his attempt to make more money and dying there because of the 'Na my papa land' syndrome.

Humans were designed with left hemisphere, right hemisphere and frontal lobe of the brain. While the left hemisphere, processing data from conscious mind which deals with logic, analytics, etc; the right hemisphere regulates the sub-conscious mind as it deals with intuition, language etc while the frontal lobe helps you change your mind from consciousness to sub-conscious constructs. I am hopeful that your frontal lobe will help you change your mind in terms of thinking globally instead of limiting yourself to the limitations that your environment has foisted on you.

Be different.

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Re: Why Do You As An Individual Want The Creation Of Biafra? by DocHMD: 3:11pm On Jul 29, 2017
jargo89:
You have a reason to believe he is not?

Let me guess you are yoruba like him, so you have the same I.Q level as his.

Biafrans tell you they want to have a different nation from people like you. You and your brother the OP, open your mouths and go around calling them 'Illiterates', 'braiwashed', 'id.iots', 'Touts', 'unemployed'.

Does intelligence in your native yoruba school of thought mean abusing people who want a different future in a country seperate from your likes? grin

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Re: Why Do You As An Individual Want The Creation Of Biafra? by Nobody: 3:12pm On Jul 29, 2017
DocHMD:
The cantankerous yoruba OP had his mind already WIRED AGAINST BIAFRANS while pretending to 'REALLY CARE" about wanting to know why Biafrans want Biafra.

Afonjas and their anti-Biafran fears. grin



I have nothing against Biafra and biafrans, I just realized that many wants Biafra for the wrong reason...... Trust me I have lots of Igbo friends and we joke a lot about it......No qualms bro.

Nb: this is the first time I will be typing anything about Biafra on NL..... I am not against the people nor the course, but the mindset.. #peace.
Re: Why Do You As An Individual Want The Creation Of Biafra? by jargo89(m): 3:14pm On Jul 29, 2017
5DMindset:


ECOWAS member states do not require VISA. With just your international passport you can visit any of the 16 member states without a VISA. Biafra, if it comes to fruition will be a member of ECOWAS and the extant laws will supercede local laws.

This is why I advise people not to be tribalists or even nationalists. As much as possible, people should be global citizens that can choose to live at any part of the globe as long as good life is assured. This is the original intention of nature.

When people's view becomes narrow, their limitations becomes amplified. Such situations bring all sorts of dissonants and discordant issues due to limited resources and death of possibilities.

There is a place that 100K naira monthly recurring income can make you live like a King and there is yet another place that you can not survive with a 100K income stream. A natural being is supposed to drift towards the location that he is more comfortable living with his resources available instead of sitting tight and increasing his attempt to make more money and dying there because of the 'Na my papa land' syndrome.

Humans were designed with left hemisphere, right hemisphere and frontal lobe of the brain. While the left hemisphere, processing data from consciousness mind which deals with logic, analytics, etc; the right hemisphere regulates the sub-conscious mind as it deals with intuition, language etc while the frontal lobe helps you change your mind from consciousness to sub-conscious constructs. I am hopeful that your frontal lobe will help you change your mind in terms of thinking globally instead of limiting yourself to the limitations that your environment has foisted on you.

Be different.

M not the pedant type, buts it hard not to point out that the frontal lobe is actually part of the right and left cerebral hemisphere. Sorry, just had to point that out.
Re: Why Do You As An Individual Want The Creation Of Biafra? by nokatakata: 3:14pm On Jul 29, 2017
Simple! because the hausa/fulanis believe that they own the country. People from the south need to stop pretending and forming civil. It is glaring the huasa/fulani have cornered almost everything in this country to their pockets. The Nigeiran army, airforce, navy and custom is just a good example or case study. Just look through the top ranking officers holding key positions, they are all from the north. How can you make appointments like this and expect others to be happy. what do you think would have happened if it were the other way round? The country would have been in flames already. The appointments are so one sided. Any man that wants to be a successful president of nigeria must be 100% diplomatic. You must carry everybody along and balance your appointments. You must focus on developing every part of the country. No region should be ignored because you think they did not vote for you. How do you convince the ipods that you do not hate them? They have to see what you are doing in their region and in all other regions. Buhari failed totally in carrying everybody along and that's the reason igbos want biafra. They have not benefited anything from the government especially. You won't allow resource control yet you won't use resources gotten from the oil regions to develop the regions and you expect anybody to be happy with you? if you want one nigieria, then you must develop every region at the same pace. People need to see the structures you are building and not just media propaganda.

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Re: Why Do You As An Individual Want The Creation Of Biafra? by Nobody: 3:15pm On Jul 29, 2017
5DMindset:


ECOWAS member states do not require VISA. With just your international passport you can visit any of the 16 member states without a VISA. Biafra, if it comes to fruition will be a member of ECOWAS and the extant laws will supercede local laws.

This is why I advise people not to be tribalists or even nationalists. As much as possible, people should be global citizens that can choose to live at any part of the globe as long as good life is assured. This is the original intention of nature.

When people's view becomes narrow, their limitations becomes amplified. Such situations bring all sorts of dissonants and discordant issues due to limited resources and death of possibilities.

There is a place that 100K naira monthly recurring income can make you live like a King and there is yet another place that you can not survive with a 100K income stream. A natural being is supposed to drift towards the location that he is more comfortable living with his resources available instead of sitting tight and increasing his attempt to make more money and dying there because of the 'Na my papa land' syndrome.

Humans were designed with left hemisphere, right hemisphere and frontal lobe of the brain. While the left hemisphere, processing data from consciousness mind which deals with logic, analytics, etc; the right hemisphere regulates the sub-conscious mind as it deals with intuition, language etc while the frontal lobe helps you change your mind from consciousness to sub-conscious constructs. I am hopeful that your frontal lobe will help you change your mind in terms of thinking globally instead of limiting yourself to the limitations that your environment has foisted on you.

Be different.



I wouldn't like to argue further with you....But you know that the establishment of Biafra doesn't necessitate it membership of ECOWAS?
Re: Why Do You As An Individual Want The Creation Of Biafra? by Nobody: 3:20pm On Jul 29, 2017
nokatakata:
Simple! because the hausa/fulanis believe that they own the country. People from the south need to stop pretending and forming civil. It is glaring the huasa/fulani have cornered almost everything in this country to their pockets. The Nigeiran army, airforce, navy and custom is just a good example or case study. Just look through the top ranking officers holding key positions, they are all from the north. How can you make appointments like this and expect others to be happy. what do you think would have happened if it were the other way round? The country would have been in flames already. The appointments are so one sided. Any man that wants to be a successful president of nigeria must be 100% diplomatic. You must carry everybody along and balance your appointments. You must focus on developing every part of the country. No region should be ignored because you think they did not vote for you. How do you convince the ipods that you do not hate them? They have to see what you are doing in their region and in all other regions. Buhari failed totally in carrying everybody along and that's the reason igbos want biafra. They have not benefited anything from the government especially. You won't allow resource control yet you won't use resources gotten from the oil regions to develop the regions and you expect anybody to be happy with you? if you want one nigieria, then you must develop every region at the same pace. People need to see the structures you are building and not just media propaganda.

God bless..... I guess this is one of the demerit of democracy/election.....
Re: Why Do You As An Individual Want The Creation Of Biafra? by jargo89(m): 3:21pm On Jul 29, 2017
DocHMD:


Let me guess you are yoruba like him, so you have the same I.Q level as his.

Biafrans tell you they want to have a different nation from people like you. You and your brother the OP, open your mouths and go around calling them 'Illiterates', 'braiwashed', 'id.iots', 'Touts', 'unemployed'.

Does intelligence in your native yoruba school of thought mean abusing people who want a different future in a country seperate from your likes? grin
1. Being Yoruba has no influence on ones IQ status. Apparently no tribe has such grace. I expect you to know that.

2. I have read thru the thread and i didnt see anywhere the OP called anyone what you placed up there. And you say I go around calling people such is childish and churlish.

3. If you can type that 3rd paragraph, then there should be no need to keep replying you.

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Re: Why Do You As An Individual Want The Creation Of Biafra? by DocHMD: 3:22pm On Jul 29, 2017
shoyemiayodeji:




[s]I have nothing against Biafra and biafrans, I just realized that many wants Biafra for the wrong reason...... Trust me I have lots of Igbo friends and we joke a lot about it......No qualms bro.

Nb: this is the first time I will be typing anything about Biafra on NL..... I am not against the people nor the course, but the mindset.. #peace.[/s]

There they go again. You lie.. Like every cantankerous afonja out there. You have EVERYTHING AGAINST Biafra. Why? Just pure envy nothing more.

Sometimes I ask myself, if the my Ogbono soup as an Igbo man has to get soured before a yoruba man can enjoy his ewedu.

Why antagonize a people who fight for self-determination because you are not sure you'll lose your own chains? Why must you yorubas agree to leave the zoo only if Biafra leaves. The same Biafra that you antagonize? Is it not a curse from heaven to be this antagonistic against everything good for the East?

Tufiakwa!
Re: Why Do You As An Individual Want The Creation Of Biafra? by Nobody: 3:23pm On Jul 29, 2017
shoyemiayodeji:




I wouldn't like to argue further with you....But you know that the establishment of Biafra doesn't necessitate it membership of ECOWAS?

Let me start my saying, I am not a tribal human specie, I was not born into the Igbo tribe and my tribes men are not in anyway on this internet supporting any tribe. We are a small tribe of excellent minds. We are not sentimental. So, let us discuss as humans without the bias that flows from our ignorant nation space that our parents birthed us into. Nature intended that we be birthed here so we can change things not to destroy them.

You did not even know that VISA was not required from ECOWAS member states, I educated you on that. Yet you have raised another issue erroneously. If you want to ask me a question, do so directly, because right now you are presenting an erroneous statement with a positive outlook. It is not the way to ask questions when in doubts.

Please ask me any questions and I will educate you on it. Like I said, I do not have time for emotional tantrums, I only chat with you because you apologized before and showed respect to me and I, to you.

Nigeria is a West African State, so any part of Nigeria remains in the West Coast of Africa. That is what is meant by West Africa. And ECOWAS means, Economic Community of West African States. Biafra by default will be a West African country.
Re: Why Do You As An Individual Want The Creation Of Biafra? by Nobody: 3:24pm On Jul 29, 2017
DocHMD:


Let me guess you are yoruba like him, so you have the same I.Q level as his.

Biafrans tell you they want to have a different nation from people like you. You and your brother the OP, open your mouths and go around calling them 'Illiterates', 'braiwashed', 'id.iots', 'Touts', 'unemployed'.

Does intelligence in your native yoruba school of thought mean abusing people who want a different future in a country seperate from your likes? grin


Please quote where I used words like: brainwashed, touts and idiots.....I used words likevunemployed and illustrate to state an hypothesis and not directed to anybody......So before you type rubbish, be sure of what you are typing.
Re: Why Do You As An Individual Want The Creation Of Biafra? by jargo89(m): 3:29pm On Jul 29, 2017
5DMindset:


Let me start my saying, I am not a tribal human specie, I was not born into the Igbo tribe and my tribes men are not in anyway on this internet supporting any tribe. We are a small tribe of excellent minds. We are not sentimental. So, let us discuss as humans without the bias that flows from our ignorant nation space that our parents birthed us into. Nature intended that we be birthed here so we can change things not to destroy them.

You did not even know that VISA was not required from ECOWAS member states, I educated you on that. Yet you have raised another issue erroneously. If you want to ask me a question, do so directly, because right now you are presenting an erroneous statement with a positive outlook. It is not the way to ask questions when in doubts.

Please ask me any questions and I will educate you on it. Like I said, I do not have time for emotional tantrums, I only chat with you because you apologized before and showed respect to me and I, to you.

Nigeria is a West African State, so any part of Nigeria remains in the West Coast of Africa. That is what is meant by West Africa. And ECOWAS means, Economic Community of West African States. Biafra by default will be a West African country.
You have a point by saying by default, Biafra SHOULD be a part of ECOWAS. But i also hope you know, Biafra can decide against joining the Organisation. A good example, is UK planning on opting out on EU.

Sorry i had to burst in uninvited. #JustSaying. And P.S. without bias, we arent humans. Our ability to revisit our bias makes us rational.
Re: Why Do You As An Individual Want The Creation Of Biafra? by DocHMD: 3:30pm On Jul 29, 2017
shoyemiayodeji:



Please quote where I used words like: brainwashed, touts and idiots.....I used words likevunemployed and illustrate to state an hypothesis and not directed to anybody......So before you type rubbish, be sure of what you are typing.

Keep fooling yourself and the minions who take you serious. I'm a medic professional and part of my training involves psychology and socially. Before you open your mouth I can tell to a large extent what is coming out it. I've been here for years first as a guest and now a member.

Keep up the anti-Biafran foolery.
Re: Why Do You As An Individual Want The Creation Of Biafra? by Nobody: 3:33pm On Jul 29, 2017
5DMindset:


Let me start my saying, I am not a tribal human specie, I was not born into the Igbo tribe and my tribes men are not in anyway on this internet supporting any tribe. We are a small tribe of excellent minds. We are not sentimental. So, let us discuss as humans without the bias that flows from our ignorant nation space that our parents birthed us into. Nature intended that we be birthed here so we can change things not to destroy them.

You did not even know that VISA was not required from ECOWAS member states, I educated you on that. Yet you have raised another issue erroneously. If you want to ask me a question, do so directly, because right now you are presenting an erroneous statement with a positive outlook. It is not the way to ask questions when in doubts.

Please ask me any questions and I will educate you on it. Like I said, I do not have time for emotional tantrums, I only chat with you because you apologized before and showed respect to me and I, to you.

Nigeria is a West African State, so any part of Nigeria remains in the West Coast of Africa. That is what is meant by West Africa. And ECOWAS means, Economic Community of West African States. Biafra by default will be a West African country.


When I typed what I typed, I know what I was saying I know what ECOWAS stands for and what countries tend to gain from it membership...... Let me educade you

Becoming a member of an international organization is not by default.. ..A state may decide to join or secede from an international organization. I.e joining or seceding is voluntary..... When Biafra is achieved, it has the qualification ( being in west Africa) to join the ECOWAS and does not automatically become a member of ECOWAS........ Read about BREXIT for more understanding.

PS: subtly throw jibes at me....thanks grin
Re: Why Do You As An Individual Want The Creation Of Biafra? by jargo89(m): 3:33pm On Jul 29, 2017
DocHMD:


Keep fooling yourself and the minions who take you serious. I'm a medic professional and part of my training involves psychology and socially. Before you open your mouth I can tell to a large extent what is coming out it. I've been here for years first as a guest and now a member.

Keep up the anti-Biafran foolery.
Sorry i had to come in again, you studied Psychology as a medic? Thats interesting.
Re: Why Do You As An Individual Want The Creation Of Biafra? by Nobody: 3:38pm On Jul 29, 2017
DocHMD:


There they go again. You lie.. Like every cantankerous afonja out there. You have EVERYTHING AGAINST Biafra. Why? Just pure envy nothing more.

Sometimes I ask myself, if the my Ogbono soup as an Igbo man has to get soured before a yoruba man can enjoy his ewedu.

Why antagonize a people who fight for self-determination because you are not sure you'll lose your own chains? Why must you yorubas agree to leave the zoo only if Biafra leaves. The same Biafra that you antagonize? Is it not a curse from heaven to be this antagonistic against everything good for the East?

Tufiakwa!



All the best for you..... cool
Re: Why Do You As An Individual Want The Creation Of Biafra? by kaeycea(m): 3:39pm On Jul 29, 2017
shoyemiayodeji:



Please quote where I used words like: brainwashed, touts and idiots.....I used words likevunemployed and illustrate to state an hypothesis and not directed to anybody......So before you type rubbish, be sure of what you are typing.
Your hypothesis is not made in thin air. You made denigrating remarks by referring protesters you don't know their source of lifelihood as unemployed .
Re: Why Do You As An Individual Want The Creation Of Biafra? by Nobody: 3:41pm On Jul 29, 2017
kaeycea:

Your hypothesis is not made in thin air. You made denigrating remarks by referring protesters you don't know their source of lifelihood as unemployed .



Read that post again, and read the argument ( discussion) before that......Then quote me again thanks.
Re: Why Do You As An Individual Want The Creation Of Biafra? by Nobody: 3:43pm On Jul 29, 2017
jargo89:
You have a point by saying by default, Biafra SHOULD be a part of ECOWAS. But i also hope you know, Biafra can decide against joining the Organisation. A good example, is UK planning on opting out on EU.

Sorry i had to burst in uninvited. #JustSaying. And P.S. without bias, we arent humans. Our ability to revisit our bias makes us rational.

You are right. Biafra can decide not to be ECOWAS member State. But by default it will be a West African Country. At least we can agree on that, and ECOWAS is by default for West African States. And of-course countries who apply to become members outside the region.

You are also right on statement that our ability to re-visit our bias makes us rational. That is something that our ego constantly fights against. I hope more and more people can understand your statement and alter their biased mindset. We have ability to change our minds be more global and fix the mess.

I hope Nigeria and Nigerians know that the direction that our politicians have plunged our country to, is what brings up the ripple effects that are seen all over the place. Secessionist movements is just one of the outcome of a society that has malfunctioned. There are going to be more problems if the structural parameters are not corrected immediately.

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Re: Why Do You As An Individual Want The Creation Of Biafra? by jargo89(m): 3:45pm On Jul 29, 2017
5DMindset:


You are right. Biafra can decide not to be ECOWAS member State. But by default it will be a West African Country. At least we can agree on that, and ECOWAS is by default for West African States. And of-course countries who apply to become members outside the region.

You are also right on statement that our ability to re-visit our bias makes us rational. That is something that our ego constantly fights against. I hope more and more people can understand your statement and alter their biased mindset. We have ability to change our minds be more global and fix the mess.

I hope Nigeria and Nigerians know that the direction that our politicians have plunged our country to, is what brings up the ripple effects that are seen all over the place. Secessionist movements is just one of the outcome of a society that has malfunctioned. There are going to be more problems if the structural parameters are not correctly immediately.
I think we have found a common ground.

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Re: Why Do You As An Individual Want The Creation Of Biafra? by Nobody: 3:49pm On Jul 29, 2017
jargo89:
I think we have found a common ground.

We are same spirit but different bodies, so there is always a common ground. We must explore that ground and use it to unite all of humanity.

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Re: Why Do You As An Individual Want The Creation Of Biafra? by jargo89(m): 4:00pm On Jul 29, 2017
5DMindset:


We are same spirit but different bodies, so there is always a common ground. We must explore that ground and use it to unite all of humanity.
Uniting all humanity? I may see that as impossible. We would always have our differences.
Re: Why Do You As An Individual Want The Creation Of Biafra? by kaeycea(m): 4:06pm On Jul 29, 2017
shoyemiayodeji:




Read that post again, and read the argument ( discussion) before that......Then quote me again thanks.
I've gone through the pages and the arguments therein. That 3% of people who don't support biafran agitation belong to the political class does not justify your tagging of the remaining 97% as unemployed and illiterate . Protesting in favour of an ideal you believe in cannot make you unemployed and illiterate.
Re: Why Do You As An Individual Want The Creation Of Biafra? by Nobody: 4:06pm On Jul 29, 2017
jargo89:
Uniting all humanity? I may see that as impossible. We would always have our differences.

I used to think so, but at this stage in my life, I see only obstacles that we can overcome to unite all of humanity. The basic necessities of all Humans are: Food, Shelter and Clothings, then a Soul Mission. it is the lack of those basic necessities and the fear of lost of same, that has driven man into the cycle of search for coins that has alienated him from himself and others. Man has randomly searched for what to occupy the void of not knowing his mission and purpose. Such a man is lost and depressed and tries to show off in order to fill that void. It cant be filled until you find your purpose. That is when true happiness and joy comes.

We have forgotten our purpose in life, our soul mission. As people awaken to the knowledge of their mission in life, the decoy of egotism and materialism dissipates.

At that point, you see no impossibilities.
Re: Why Do You As An Individual Want The Creation Of Biafra? by Nobody: 4:09pm On Jul 29, 2017
kaeycea:

I've gone through the pages and the arguments therein. That 3% of people who don't support biafran agitation belong to the political class does not justify your tagging of the remaining 97% as unemployed and illiterate . Protesting in favour of an ideal you believe in cannot make you unemployed and illiterate.


Alright.....No offence intended.

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