TheKingIsHere:
where is friendng givbitcoin and modsfucker ?

Once nigeria restructures or divides, somalia go be like paradise when compared to the north. fact

Because you think oil is the only means of sustenance ryt?

What a pity.....

Go and make research on South-Sudan and get back to me.

Ehiscotch:
I have this feeling he is not being completely honest.
How much IGR does his state generate?

Are they not dependent on oil?

Can they pay salaries without allocation?

What do they contribute to the federal purse?

I now see why most of you guys on nairaland fail WAEC, simple comprehension is ur problem. Did the gov at any point in the post exempt himself of not taking part in the collection of federal allocation or did he state that his State was generating enough IGR to stop them from collecting allocation from the center??

The Gov was just stating the general fear of the north as regard to restructuring and he is very truthful and honest about it as many intelligent pple here agreed.

So goan learn hw to read n comprehend first b4 coming to post crab on nairaland abeg. Na advice.

OreMI22:
Now that we know the north's fear is fiscal federalism and not necessarily restructuring, we can discuss other areas of restructuring such as devolution of powers to the states or regions, removal of critical national infrastructure from the Exclusive list of 1999 constitution and increasing revenue allocation formula for the states due to their added responsibilities.

We can find agreement on how many years before we gradually increase derivation for the oil communities so that northern states will have enough time to develop alternative sources of wealth.

Nice and implementable solution... But the North are still in hiding... They have refuse to openly accept the problem.. which is a share concern.

They are still using threats of violence, quit notice, military brutality in effort to suppress the whole country.. which is not nearly possible.

They is a easy solution for everybody but we must all come out with all honesty and say this is our concerns.

I suggests let's share the country but let's keep sharing the resources to help everyone for some time... so as to enable everyone have the chance to pick up without oil revenue.

modsfucker:


Because you think oil is the only means of sustenance ryt?

What a pity.....

Go and make research on South-Sudan and get back to me.

Oga, we are talking about you guys. \tell us why you are fearing restructuring or disintegration.

I do not see any reason why the North should be afraid of restructuring. Running away from restructuring is like running away from your shadow.

The Northern governors should look inward for revenue and forget about money coming from Abuja or the centre. The north has big landmass to their advantage which they are not using at the moment.

Most Northern governors do not want to invest gainfully and profitably in Agriculture they prefer to wait for STIPEND aka Federal Allocation from Abuja when they are supposed to be exploiting the resources in their own domain.

Now that the glorious days of oil and gas is fast running out. Nigerians will see what the north will rely on in the next 10 years. The Arewa youth that are lazy will find where their next meal will come from as the oil they put their hope will not be highly relevant as they had presumed.

The Tanko Yakassai that is misinforming the Arewa youth will realise that he was not acting for the best interest of his northern people.

rainylad:



..Lazy people...which human resources?

Lazy people.... Lolz...

Are you the ones exploring the oil in your side

We're all lazy, blacks are viewed as lazy people generally by the whites.

In 2015, Donald Trump made a general racist comment on Africans and I quote :

Once again, US business magnate Donald Trump has expressed his deep disgust for Africans by referring to them as lazy fools only good at eating, lovemaking and thuggery. Speaking in Indianapolis, Trump who is also the republican Presidential torch bearer reiterated his promise to deport Africans especially those of Kenyan origin including their son Barrack [sic] Obama.

So go get some sense

Why won't they fear restructuring?
Do they have any meaningful leaders up North?
All they know how to do is, hit their head on the ground and carry their buttocks up.

TheKingIsHere:
Oga, we are talking about you guys. \tell us why you are fearing restructuring or disintegration.

Because it is unpopular

Out of 192 UN member nations, 165 operates unitary Presidential Democracy i.e what Nigeria practices currently.

I need the list of African countries where resource control is obtainable.... Just give me the list.

You don't know something but you want to comment on it.

Federalism is very unpopular cos only a handful of countries practice it in the world.

Your major disease is your enthusiastic determination to always copy America but you don't know how to do it.

ChimaAdeoye:


If the north had allowed devolution of powers, many states or regions of nigeria would today be in partnership with mining companies to develop their economy, export agricultural and industrial products, build power stations, rail infrastructure etc which would boost their IGR.

But the north thinks more about stopping others than development of everybody. They are worried if other regions develop, they are building a nation within Nigeria using their own exact words. In the process of trying to suppress other regions from having the power to develop their economy, the north suppressed themselves. Not to mention the severe hatred such deliberate repression policy of other parts of Nigeria breed among the people to severely damage unity

Word

Lilswaghanxum:
Why won't they fear restructuring?
Do they have any meaningful leaders up North?
All they know how to do is, hit their head on the ground and carry their buttocks up.

How many African countries practice true Federalism?

How many UN member nations operates true Federalism?

I need the above list

You guys are just commenting on what you don't know.

Only a handful of countries operate such unpopular system of Governance but you guys don't know.

You always want to copy America.... That's your major undoing

I wonder when illiterates , malnourished empowered almajiri became human resources Ndi Ala

modsfucker:


How many African countries practice true Federalism?

How many UN member nations operates true Federalism?

I need the above list

You guys are just commenting on what you don't know.

Only a handful of countries operate such unpopular system of Governance but you guys don't know.

You always want to copy America.... That's your major undoing

Answers in picture. Blue is for Unitary and Green is federal. BTW the UN it self is a federation.

Using popularly as argument is shallow most of the nation's that are federations are worth discussing or taking paged out their books. It's better to discuss merits of either system and how in our context it we would better nation.

Ps: USA of best example of federal state. Switzerland, Australia, canada also very good.

Ehiscotch:
I have this feeling he is not being completely honest.
How much IGR does his state generate?

Are they not dependent on oil?

Can they pay salaries without allocation?

What do they contribute to the federal purse?

U should have read the post nah

Hizzy:

Ebonyi State governor has Come out to deny the report

Yinmu. He only tried to change his tune due to the resultant backlash. The guy and Rochas were only being sincere about the true position of their states. Besides, Rochas hasn't denied his own statement or has he?

modsfucker:


How many African countries practice true Federalism?

How many UN member nations operates true Federalism?

I need the above list

You guys are just commenting on what you don't know.

Only a handful of countries operate such unpopular system of Governance but you guys don't know.

You always want to copy America.... That's your major undoing

Yes America practices true federalism and it is working for them. Wont you rather copy wat u term 'unpopular' but it is working than practice wat is popular yet isn't working? Must we follow a popular schemd just b'cos majority are in it?

Just hear urself out, typical herd mentality.

modsfucker:


Because it is unpopular

Out of 192 UN member nations, 165 operates unitary Presidential Democracy i.e what Nigeria practices currently.

I need the list of African countries where resource control is obtainable.... Just give me the list.

You don't know something but you want to comment on it.

Federalism is very unpopular cos only a handful of countries practice it in the world.

Your major disease is your enthusiastic determination to always copy America but you don't know how to do it.

You don't want it because it is unpopular but you want Fulani herdsmen roaming around with cattle which is also unpopular too.

You can't eat your cake and have it.

Guy, you no get yarn abeg

Blue3k:


Answers in picture. Blue is for Unitary and Green is federal. BTW the UN it self is a federation.

Using popularly as argument is shallow most of the nation's that are federations are worth discussing or taking paged out their books. It's better to discuss merits of either system and how in our context it we would better nation.

Ps: USA of best example of federal state. Switzerland, Australia, canada also very good.

So if we localize it to Africa, what is the percentage of countries operating the true Federalism?

I believe it won't be upto 10% and so many African countries are more successful than Nigeria.

So why making it sound as if restructuring is the only solution to Nigeri's problems?

What we need is good leadership and nothing more.

The North has practically contributed almost nothing to the federal allocation.
They claimed KANO is the most industrialized and commercialized state. Then the big question is this; how much does KANO contribute to the centre?
Almost all the industries in Kaduna I know are worst than an empty land. what have they contributed to the centre.I was opportuned to visit local Government secretariate at Kachia local Government of Kaduna state. it's quite pathetic to behold.
Nasarawa state .I rest my case

TheKingIsHere:


You don't want it because it is unpopular but you want Fulani herdsmen roaming around with cattle which is also unpopular too.

You can't eat your cake and have it.

Guy, you no get yarn abeg

I
This is an unintelligent response....

Why don't you respond to the points I highlighted?

Who supports criminals? If you catch any criminal and you have a convincing evidence against him, why don't you sue him?

If you can't withstand an intelligent argument, don't even start it. Everything is not sarcasm.

Skubidude:


Yes America practices true federalism and it is working for them. Wont you rather copy wat u term 'unpopular' but it is working than practice wat is popular yet isn't working? Must we follow a popular schemd just b'cos majority are in it?

Just hear urself out, typical herd mentality.

You mean America is the only successful country in the world right?

Are there no countries that are more developed and successful in Africa than Nigeria?

Typical flat head mentality......

I want to go to America by fire by force

I want to copy America by fire by force

I wamt to become American by fire by force

I don't mind being gay to become an American citizen

modsfucker:


So if we localize it to Africa, what is the percentage of countries operating the true Federalism?

I believe it won't be upto 10% and so many African countries are more successful than Nigeria.

So why making it sound as if restructuring is the only solution to Nigeri's problems?

What we need is good leadership and nothing more.

Nah I disagree with percentage counting popularity contest. It's more imports to look at merits of system. Most of those countries are worth discussing. The definitely aren't worth copying. A lot of those stated in unitary list repressive regions, dictator ships or 3rd world slums. There's good examples like Sweden, UK, Japan Singapore etc.

Federal systems are good in that power is shared. Local needs are more efficiently handled. It works best with large heterogeneous populations or population with regional differences. Laws can reflect peculiarities of various federating units.

Restructuring poses solution to government inefficiency by giving states more control through devolution. In our context simply adding items to concurrent list. Doing away with or adjusting allocation system to have vibrant states that aren't woefully dependant. Then we can address other sidebar issues like independent candidates, LG autonomy and rest of laundry list issues.

Changing head is window dressing. There's issues to solve. I'd rather do both since it seems necessary to address these issues yet again.

modsfucker:


I
This is an unintelligent response....

Why don't you respond to the points I highlighted?

Who supports criminals? If you catch any criminal and you have a convincing evidence against him, why don't you sue him?

If you can't withstand an intelligent argument, don't even start it. Everything is not sarcasm.

The points you raised are rubbish.

How can you say other countries don't support true federalism, so because of that we should not embrace it but you support Fulani herdsmen roaming around with cattle which is also not acceptable in other countries. Is that not hypocrisy of the highest order?

You only want a plan that suit you and when it doesn't you discard it. Kolework.

My response is the best response to your hypocritical and self denying statement

Blue3k:


Nah I disagree with percentage counting. Most of those countries are worth discussing. The definitely aren't worth copying.

Federal systems are good in that power is shared. Local needs are more efficiently handled. It works best with large heterogeneous populations or population with regional difference. Laws can reflect peculiarities in various federating units.

Restructuring poses solution to government inefficiency by giving states more control through devolution. In our context simply adding items to concurrent list. Doing away with or adjusting allocation system to have vibrant states that aren't woefully dependant. Then we can address other sidebar issues like independent candidates, LG autonomy and rest of laundry list issues.

Changing head is window dressing. There's issues to solve. I'd rather do both since it seems necessary to address these issues yet again.

Thank you blue3k for understanding my points and the corresponding intelligent response.

Which do you think is more successful between Nigeria and Ghana currently?

Is Ghana a homogeneous nation or heterogeneous?

What system does Ghana operates?

Have you ever heard of Kumasi Police or Accra Police in Ghana?

Just be sincere to yourself, don't you think we would enter into chaotic situation if some serving governors such as Fayose, Yaha Bello, El-Rufai etc are granted statr police? Don't you think those states would turn bloody?

Haba blue3k, we are not Americans, we are entirely different from them.... They are more disciplined than us.

My belief is that we are yet to understand our own problem.... Corruption and bad leadership is our major problem and once we do away witb them, we'll start to see some improvements.

The north are confused, the west don't know their bearing, the east are even more confused.

Meanwhile read this article: Why I will never marry a slay queen again: http://m.af1234.com/Af1234/details?id=2422

TheKingIsHere:


The points you raised are rubbish.

How can you say other countries don't support true federalism, so because of that we should not embrace it but you support Fulani herdsmen roaming around with cattle which is also not acceptable in other countries. Is that not hypocrisy of the highest order?

You only want a plan that suit you and when it doesn't you discard it. Kolework.

My response is the best response to your hypocritical and self denying statement

I'm done with you, go back to school please.

modsfucker:


You mean America is the only successful country in the world right?

Are there no countries that are more developed and successful in Africa than Nigeria?

Typical flat head mentality......

I want to go to America by fire by force

I want to copy America by fire by force

I wamt to become American by fire by force

I don't mind being gay to become an American citizen

Dull brain. So you think only America practice true federalism? So many western democracies do and are among the 1st world or developed countries. Which country in africa can be termed a 1st world country or can be said to be a developed country in the true sense of the word?? I knw u wud say South Africa. Now tell me wat system of govt are they practising. Secondly, heteroginous countries such as nigeria that are developed what system of govt are they practising? Get back to me only wen u hav information to the contrary b4 i can indulge u further

modsfucker:


Thank you blue3k for understanding my points and the corresponding intelligent response.

Which do you think is more successful between Nigeria and Ghana currently?

Is Ghana a homogeneous nation or heterogeneous?

What system does Ghana operates?

Have you ever heard of Kumasi Police or Accra Police in Ghana?

Just be sincere to yourself, don't you think we would enter into chaotic situation if some serving governors such as Fayose, Yaha Bello, El-Rufai etc are granted statr police? Don't you think those states would turn bloody?

Haba blue3k, we are not Americans, we are entirely different from them.... They are more disciplined than us.

My belief is that we are yet to understand our own problem.... Corruption and bad leadership is our major problem and once we do away with them, we'll start to see some improvements.

Ghana is heterogeneous with majority population akan. I don't have opinion which country better between Ghana or Nigeria. I'll pick Ghana for safty and political stability. Economicly hardly any better. Anyway I can point to any Brazil or Mexico ask you which is better. The are more stable on all three points in my view.

You don't need to give police to state governors. They can be elected or appointed by LG chairman or board. The federal government still their to regulate and prosecute in any event. The governors have to much power to do stupid stuff like Wiki with Land use act buT that issue won't be solved without constitutional amendment.

If your undisciplined the structure doesn't matter if you get dictator, monarch, unitary or federal. The systems only work due to implentation. Unitary systems as you know have tendacy for bureaucracy and ignoring regional differences. This is why a tiny few need to devolution of powers anyway. Examples UK with Scottish Parliament.

The structure changing for better by devolution of powers should be a big deal. The federal government still their. Well the government fighting war on corruption so wish them well. Let them start with rules that encourages corruption.

I end my argument which system did Nigeria work beat under a federal or "centralized system"? It's easy to point to everyone else. I argue before military took over centralizing authority. The government rant better. Local governmenta were performing. States ran more efficiently and federal government was less burdened.

Skubidude:


Dull brain. So you think only America practice true federalism? So many western democracies do and are among the 1st world or developed countries. Which country in africa can be termed a 1st world country or can be said to be a developed country in the true sense of the word?? I knw u wud say South Africa. Now tell me wat system of govt are they practising. Secondly, heteroginous countries such as nigeria that are developed what system of govt are they practising? Get back to me only wen u hav information to the contrary b4 i can indulge u further

Answer these questions please without the usual insults.

1. How many members does the United Nations have?

2. How many if those members operate true Federalism?

3. How many operate Unitary Presidential Democracy?

I need just the answers not long essay.

Gov. Masari is speaking the truth that has always been very bitter for Northern oligarchs to swallow. The North actually has the capacity to feed the whole of Africa - how I wish the leadership throw away religious and political bigotry and adopt developmental agendas for the region.

modsfucker:


Answer these questions please without the usual insults.

1. How many members does the United Nations have?

2. How many if those members operate true Federalism?

3. How many operate Unitary Presidential Democracy?

I need just the answers not long essay.

Typical Nigerian. I asked you some ques first instead of answering them u turn around to ask more questions, how dumb can u get.

Well to ans ur ques lets assume there are more countries in the UN practising Unitary Presidential Democracy, it still boils down to my former questions: 1) How developed are these countries compared to those practising true federalism and 2) Are majority of these UPD practising countries heterogenous like nigeria or homogenous??

Just answer these questions sincerely and stop hiding ur head in sand b4 i can engage u further.

sshalom:
Gov. Masari is speaking the truth that has always been very bitter for Northern oligarchs to swallow. The North actually has the capacity to feed the whole of Africa - how I wish the leadership throw away religious and political bigotry and adopt developmental agendas for the region.

True talk my brother.