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Re: Why North Fears Restructuring – Masari, Katsina State Governor by kp3tech(m): 1:52pm On Aug 01, 2017 |
sshalom: The bolded is 100% true. With modern day technology they can better preserve, package the food round the continent, Imagine the job, the income, it would revitalize the whole North. But they can't because they are always paranoid about the south... Always playing politics of North vs South. Expecting another war, afraid of the South rising and ending their Oil allocation.. Now they are being insulted daily, they have lost their pride because they have come to depend on oil.... The have forgotten the Great groundnut Pyramid of the North 1 Like
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Re: Why North Fears Restructuring – Masari, Katsina State Governor by Ayinlaokin(m): 1:55pm On Aug 01, 2017 |
Of course,the Northern Resources |
Re: Why North Fears Restructuring – Masari, Katsina State Governor by Mcreloaded(m): 2:08pm On Aug 01, 2017 |
Governor Aminu Bello Masari of Katsina State has disclosed that the North’s over dependence on what is coming from the centre is the source of fear by the region over the agitation of restructuring by the North. Did you say whats coming from the center or the petro dollars (oil)coming from the south south |
Re: Why North Fears Restructuring – Masari, Katsina State Governor by ChimaAdeoye: 2:12pm On Aug 01, 2017 |
The northerners have sadly become very lazy due to over dependence on southern oil resources and totally focussed all their thoughts on how to subdue and cheat the south and forgot to think how to develop the north without stealing anybody's resources. Unfortunately nothing lasts forever. The south has realized the plot of fulani to subdue them, enslave them and then steal all her resources hiding under the cover of " one Nigeria " and determined to end the daylight robbery . 1 Like |
Re: Why North Fears Restructuring – Masari, Katsina State Governor by bibe(m): 2:14pm On Aug 01, 2017 |
Kazim88: The British destroyed nothing, rather they helped build up the norths agricultural capacity and also diversified it greatly. Have you ever wondered why when you mention the North in colonial times, you mention groundnut? Do you think they were buying that much groundnut for food purposes? It was always about oil and always has been. Palm oil in the East, groundnut oil in the North. And it was all necessitated by industrialisation and machines needed oil for various purposes. (that was before crude oil become the alternative source of cheap oil) The difference was that oil palm had far much greater yield compared to groundnut and was thus more valued and still is (eg Malaysia taking oil palm over groundnut) Every region was self sufficient when it came to agriculture for food security but when it came to agriculture for "commercial" purpose, the North actually wasn't as competitive as the East nor the West. 2 Likes |
Re: Why North Fears Restructuring – Masari, Katsina State Governor by bibe(m): 2:14pm On Aug 01, 2017 |
Kazim88: The British destroyed nothing, rather they helped build up the norths agricultural capacity and also diversified it greatly. Have you ever wondered why when you mention the North in colonial times, you mention groundnut? Do you think they were buying that much groundnut for food purposes? It was always about oil and always has been. Palm oil in the East, groundnut oil in the North. And it was all necessitated by industrialisation and machines needed oil for various purposes. (that was before crude oil become the alternative source of cheap oil) The difference was that oil palm had far much greater yield compared to groundnut and was thus more valued and still is (eg Malaysia taking oil palm over groundnut) Every region was self sufficient when it came to agriculture for food security but when it came to agriculture for "commercial" purpose, the North actually wasn't as competitive as the East nor the West. |
Re: Why North Fears Restructuring – Masari, Katsina State Governor by bibe(m): 2:37pm On Aug 01, 2017 |
AkinPhysicist: Point of correction, he didn't do it to benefit the Igbos, he did it to enable him assert control bearing in mind the structure of Nigeria at the time. How do you assert control over the 4 regions who were independent and with different "constitutions"? Bear in mind also at the time there were already deep seethed tribalism coming from the North and West (eg comments from Sardauna and Akintola) There was fear of breakaways then just as it is now and his solution is still what Nigeria hinges on today to sustain its unity. |
Re: Why North Fears Restructuring – Masari, Katsina State Governor by modsfucker: 4:16pm On Aug 01, 2017 |
Skubidude: 1. Most of the countries operating Unitary Presidential Democracy are developed, more developed than Nigeria. The countries operating Unitary Presidential Democracy are mostly heterogeneous, you can confirm by compiling the list of such countries. You always want to make comparison between African and European/Western countries. One thing you should note is that more than 90% of Western countries are more developed than African countries not because of the system they operate but because of their discipline and intelligence. Even countries that practice pure Monarchy mostly in the middle east, a system that is totalitarian of some sort, are more developed than African states. They call Africa "black nation" due to non productive nature of its people not because its people are black. Theirs is a developed world, ours is a developing world. Lastly, I would appreciate it if you stop inserting insults in your comments. |
Re: Why North Fears Restructuring – Masari, Katsina State Governor by makoota: 4:40pm On Aug 01, 2017 |
The North is really taking us back in this country. So because they are not on the side restructuring we cant embark on that beautiful agenda. |
Re: Why North Fears Restructuring – Masari, Katsina State Governor by zoedew: 5:03pm On Aug 01, 2017 |
Kazim88:Very few States there are now who are not dependent on Federal allocation in a manner not healthy for their viability . That is real issue here. God created all (Northern, Southern, Eastern and Western #stoplookingdownonnortherners |
Re: Why North Fears Restructuring – Masari, Katsina State Governor by bukynkwuenu: 5:45pm On Aug 01, 2017 |
Kazim88: break n share which oil.... that means d north still doesn't want independent |
Re: Why North Fears Restructuring – Masari, Katsina State Governor by positivetaught: 5:49pm On Aug 01, 2017 |
I admire this man's bluntness, if the north could only think deeply, they are virtually sitting on a gold mine but like they say ignorance breeds fear,it's this fear that has beclouded the thinking faculties of the north pushing the into violent mode,but all its take is sound analytical thinking n hard work n like Toyota's slogan of "good thinking, good product", the north would be good to go,restructuring will really offer this country wonderful opportunities, peace unity development n general advancement in different spheres.my idea of restructuring is not the bogus type meant to bring about a catastrophic change but a simple reorganization in relationship to our peculiar nature n problems to enhance better n prosperous nationhood.let's make the present States federating units, devolve more powers to the States, make political leadership rotational at all levels taking into account religious,ethnic n other factors where necessary,make resource control to be 50-50 for all resources beneath the earth surface while States control resources on the surface, adopt a unified body of law taking into account all necessary factors, simplifying constitutional amendment to just a vote by 90% attendance n 70% In favour by the actual members of the national assembly calculated to the nearest whole number to encourage an efficient continuous refinement of the constitution etc,let there be a healthy challenge n competition to engender rapid growth n development.there is no state in this country that should not be viable economically if we are truly serious, but I guess until the north is led by patriotic radicals instead of the present conservative religious radicals,the north will continue to live in ignorance breeding fear while encouraging aggressions and ultimately continue to be an unnecessary drag on the rest of the country. |
Re: Why North Fears Restructuring – Masari, Katsina State Governor by myobjective: 6:13pm On Aug 01, 2017 |
Kazim88: Oil boom didn't kill the massive and growing agricultural sector or the emerging small and medium manufacturing sector but lack of political and economic know how to use oil free money to jump-start an industrial and economic revolution kill Nigeria. The bulk of the blame should be placed on the clueless military government at that time, men in uniform that lack the know how to use free oil money to kick start a revolution in manufacturing and agriculture. My problem with elite from the North is their shortsighted approach to national issues. We have a skewed revenue sharing formula that favours the North west state like Kano, Kaduna, Katsina, Sokoto (basically) all north western states, where artificial population figures are given to these state to enable them have more local government so that they can dominate the national assembly and stronger more revenue from the central. |
Re: Why North Fears Restructuring – Masari, Katsina State Governor by myobjective: 6:39pm On Aug 01, 2017 |
makoota: The North is not taking you back, lazy government is taking you back.... People don't know that south eastern Nigeria is more parasitic than most northern state. |
Re: Why North Fears Restructuring – Masari, Katsina State Governor by Skubidude(m): 6:39pm On Aug 01, 2017 |
I beg to disagree with ur points @modsfucker, check out the list of some countries practising unitary govt which include: France, Australia, New Zealand, Egypt, S/Africa, Portugal, Germany, Turkey and The Phillipines. About 95% of this countries are homogeneous in nature. On the other hand check out the list of some countries practising true fiscal federalism which include: U.S.A, U.K, Canada, Brazil, Bolivia, Switzerland, Spain, Japan, Korea, Indonesia and majority of the EU countries. Most of the countries in this category have three things in common (a) they are developed (b) mostly heterogeneous and (c) are mostly among the first world countries, and one other fasinating thing here is that u cant find a single African country in this category. In all these one thing is clear; certain factors determine what best form of govt shud be practise in order to engenders devt. If a highly diverse country like U.S had not practise true fedsm, be rest assured dat it wud hav been strugglg like Nigeria is doing. |
Re: Why North Fears Restructuring – Masari, Katsina State Governor by modsfucker: 7:03pm On Aug 01, 2017 |
Skubidude: You can't give proper assessment untill you draw a comprehensive list of countries and the system they operate, then you can come up with a reliable statistics. Is South Africa really homogeneous? check this https://answersafrica.com/south-african-tribes.html US is the world power courtesy of the determination of their founding fathers not the system they operate. |
Re: Why North Fears Restructuring – Masari, Katsina State Governor by rainylad(f): 7:22pm On Aug 01, 2017 |
AkinPhysicist: ....Diabolical Afonjas are already fighing for their masters..perhaps they will be allowed to suck cow breast after their fulani masters are done. |
Re: Why North Fears Restructuring – Masari, Katsina State Governor by Skubidude(m): 7:30pm On Aug 01, 2017 |
modsfucker: S/Africa is not that was why i said 95% in that category were homogeneous and u saying the determination of America's founding fathers makes them a super power is neither here nor there. Weren't our founding fathers determine as well for nigeria to be great to the point of inserting in the constitution the No Secession clause just like America did in their 2nd to 4th Amendment. |
Re: Why North Fears Restructuring – Masari, Katsina State Governor by modsfucker: 8:15pm On Aug 01, 2017 |
Skubidude: You can't mention a handful of countries and use them as references... For your analysis to be acceptable, you need to list down all the countries. I think the major reason why we found ourselves in this mess is because of the military interruptions which sow the seed of tribalism in the hearts of the citizens and that is what is militating our growth. I hardly hear this level of hatred between component tribes in any country. Nigetia's case is very different.... Ghana is equally divided along ethnic and religious lines, but you don't hear anything remotely close to what is going on in Nigeria...... Achieving National cohesion should be our primary assignment otherwise, even after this country disintegrates into two entities, those entities would still further disintegrate along several axis due to our heterogeneity. |
Re: Why North Fears Restructuring – Masari, Katsina State Governor by omohayek: 8:32pm On Aug 01, 2017 |
modsfucker:Actually, the tribal hatred you mention preceded the military interventions, and was already in full flow by the 1940s. Distrust and dislike between the three major regions in Nigeria is nothing new by any means. 1 Like |
Re: Why North Fears Restructuring – Masari, Katsina State Governor by orisa37: 8:40pm On Aug 01, 2017 |
Just asking that Nigeria be rearranged and strategised into "36 Productivity, Costs and Incomes state Centres for Economic Development". This also is Restructuring. |
Re: Why North Fears Restructuring – Masari, Katsina State Governor by modsfucker: 8:54pm On Aug 01, 2017 |
omohayek: But funny enough, the hatred only exists in the country, if the three different tribes meet outside the country, they see themselves as one |
Re: Why North Fears Restructuring – Masari, Katsina State Governor by mikolo80: 11:39pm On Aug 01, 2017 |
Temidayo9:who hold you frombreaking the shackles and developing |
Re: Why North Fears Restructuring – Masari, Katsina State Governor by Skubidude(m): 11:43pm On Aug 01, 2017 |
modsfucker:Now u are coming home, that is the more reason why true federalism remain the only viable system of govt for nigeria particularly now if we must remain as one entity. I mean there's no point beating about the bush pretending all is well when obviously it isn't and repeating the same thing over n over again but expecting different result which is exactly what insanity is. We can no longer pretend about the deep seated tribalism, mutual suspicioun and hatred in the land. So in order to obtain a permanent solution to these myriad of challenges and many other problems bedeviling this country, it is best we practice true federalism where like minds (federating units) can aggregate together and develop at their own pace just like the regional govt of the first republic which work perfectly well for nigeria then as it engenders healthy competition, development and the general economic growth of the country. We can still get it right if only we can do d rite thi |
Re: Why North Fears Restructuring – Masari, Katsina State Governor by modsfucker: 6:55am On Aug 02, 2017 |
Skubidude: Ghana got it right without the true Federalism. That regional stuff would only create further division among us.... I'd rather go with disintegration than that regional Government. South-Sudan thought that the only way for it to achieve regional progress was for it to become an independent country. Now they have the independence and what's going on there? A never ending war. |
Re: Why North Fears Restructuring – Masari, Katsina State Governor by Temidayo9(m): 8:13am On Aug 02, 2017 |
mikolo80: When did individual now become a region?I hope you can read in between the lines |
Re: Why North Fears Restructuring – Masari, Katsina State Governor by mikolo80: 9:00am On Aug 02, 2017 |
Temidayo9:is it the region that will wake up and do Mr individuals living in the region. you're waiting for monkey to work so you can chop abi, I see, no wonder Nigeria scattered the way it is, everybody waiting for somebody to fix only for nobody to achieve anything meanwhile anybody could've done it. so sad. anyway, more for me.at least now I know not to depend on lazy Nigerians support. I'm on my own |
Re: Why North Fears Restructuring – Masari, Katsina State Governor by Skubidude(m): 9:15am On Aug 02, 2017 |
@modfucker you see ur problem is always trying to compare small African countries with manageable population density and size with an enormous country like Nigeria. What is the size and pop of Ghana, Kenya or S/Africa that u are always comparing us with? Who told u wat is applicable in these countries can work in nigeria just b'cos it is working in these small countries Pls i'm trying hard to refrain myself from calling u dumb today but u need to refrain from making dumb post all the time. What is exactly ur problem with true fedlism? The countries practising it are they better or worse for it?? Can u compare nigeria to any of the countries practising it in terms of physical devt, economy and human per capita index Nigeria practise something similar to true fedlism in the 1st republic and it works, the army came and distabilize it which u quite confirm, now that we are back to civil rule why cant we go back to what use to work. Oh i forgot, the north needs to agree. Well then lets part ways. EOS. |
Re: Why North Fears Restructuring – Masari, Katsina State Governor by Earthquake1: 9:35am On Aug 02, 2017 |
AkinPhysicist:. |
Re: Why North Fears Restructuring – Masari, Katsina State Governor by Temidayo9(m): 9:48am On Aug 02, 2017 |
mikolo80:Still, you re unable to read and understand. Go back to my comments and read it very well. |
Re: Why North Fears Restructuring – Masari, Katsina State Governor by mikolo80: 9:54am On Aug 02, 2017 |
Temidayo9:then explain in full sentence or forever hold your peace. |
Re: Why North Fears Restructuring – Masari, Katsina State Governor by odomaonoja: 6:24pm On Aug 04, 2017 |
Restructuring Nigeria is the very best option to Nigeria problem; every region will suffer it but surely, they will get use to it with time. Every region need the other to stand, like every field of study can not stand on it own without the other field. |
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