GuyWise:

Apart this your stupid egbe bere ugo bere, give me any other ilu igbo within 5mins.

Ndi b'anyi siri na: Atualu nwa omara ,omara; mana atualu ofeke ofenye isi n'ohia.

Meaning: if you tell a wise youth a proverb, he will learn something from it and take correction. But if you tell a foolish youth a proverb, he will throw his head into the forest, not bothering to meditate on or benefit from the proverb.

From your foolish reaction to our first proverb, it is possible that our ancestors must have been thinking about you when they coined both proverbs we have posted hear. O di egwu!

Eastfield1:

you are praising ur fellow Yoruba Man

Where was your brain while you were typing this?

adetayo234:


Be bold and reasonable enough to point out the particular part you disagree with. If not, you are just another igbo blinded by baseless hatred and unprovable ideologies.

what's wrong with u? why d insult? Is he God? is he perfect? must I agree sheepishly with everything he says?

adadike281:
what's wrong with u? why d insult? Is he God? is he perfect? must I agree sheepishly with everything he says?

What's your definition of insult? Point out the areas of your disagreement, simple.

lastcall:
Abeg enuf of this igbo vs Yoruba e-war.

I just don't understand oo! Both tribes involved are guilt of one thing or the other. The average black man has an issue jare.

Jabioro:
The IPOB e-miscreants never see anything good in Yorubas due to hatred preached by their dubious leader Nnamidi Kanu.. I can assured you no reasonable Omo Odua will do what our past leaders has done to make them strived in our land..

Don't blame kanu for the igbos demonic hatred of the Yoruba's, blame it on their parents. You wonder, why all of them reason the way they reason. You are giving kanu way too much credit, the guy isn't just that smart.

afonjas yapping upandan kanu is not that smart how many of you have achieved even one third of kanus accomplish? none of your leaders in afonja land cannot come close since awolowo and akintola dayz now to thiefunbu

GoldNiagara:



Don't blame kanu for the igbos demonic hatred of the Yoruba's, blame it on their parents. You wonder, why all of them reason the way they reason. You are giving kanu way too much credit, the guy isn't just that smart.

I wondered what had being our greatest offence with this ungrateful generation..

Point of correction Obi1kenobi is not an Igbo man just as Igbodefender is not also an Igbo.

I don't know why Yoruba people like propaganda so much.

Quote me, i have my evidence.

If Obi Ikenobi is an Igbo man, then I'm Donald Trump.

I remember that even Rossiki once claimed Igbo here and was even defending Ndiigbo some times.

He is an impostor.

igbodefender:

Ndi b'anyi siri na: Atualu nwa omara ,omara; mana atualu ofeke ofenye isi n'ohia.

Meaning: if you tell a wise youth a proverb, he will learn something from it and take correction. But if you tell a foolish youth a proverb, he will throw his head into the forest, not bothering to meditate on or benefit from the proverb.

From your foolish reaction to our first proverb, it is possible that our ancestors must have been thinking about you when they coined both proverbs we have posted hear. O di egwu!

Even Nduchuks, a Fulani man can speak more Igbo proverbs than me, and indeed was claiming to be an Igbo from Abriba as early as 2007 on this forum, before his many Igbophobic stands on hotly contested issues here exposed him.

It takes more than just writing in Igbo to be an Igbo person.

Here has been busy in my absence, sha...

pazienza:


Even Nduchuks, a Fulani man can speak more Igbo proverbs than me, and indeed was claiming to be an Igbo from Abriba as early as 2007 on this forum, before his many Igbophobic stands on hotly contested issues here exposed him.

It takes more than just writing in Igbo to be an Igbo person.

Who are you? Where are you from? And give us your acid test of how you know an Igbo man on the internet. Clearly, for you, it's the ability to follow each other like mindless sheep. Ewu...

Obi1kenobi:


Who are you? Where are you from? And give us your acid test of how you know an Igbo man on the internet. Clearly, for you, it's the ability to follow each other like mindless sheep. Ewu...

Lol!

You are not Igbo.
Ndo. Cry me a river, if you want to.

pazienza:


Lol!

You are not Igbo.
Ndo. Cry me a river, if you want to.

You seem to be doing most of the crying though. The very idea of saying I'm not Igbo is self-pacification to dry your bitter tears when you have no arguments.

Obi1kenobi:


You seem to be doing most of the crying though. The very idea of saying I'm not Igbo is self-pacification to dry your bitter tears when you have no arguments.

What argument exactly? That the Yorubas are more accomplished than Ndiigbo?

There is no argument bro. You are who you are. You are not Igbo.

Nigeria’s foremost novelist Chinua Achebe has claimed that Nigerians, especially of the Hausa/Fulani and the Yoruba stocks, do not like his Igbo ethnic group because of the southeast’s cultural advantage.

He made this claim in his new book, There was a Country, which has generated controversy for his onslaught on the role of Obafemi Awolowo as the federal commissioner of finance during the Nigeria civil war. He accused Awolowo of genocide and imposition of food blockade on Biafra, a claim that has drawn rebuttals and contradictions of emotional intensity from some southwest leaders and commentators.

“I have written in my small book entitled The Trouble with Nigeria that Nigerians will probably achieve consensus on no other matter than their common resentment of the Igbo,” he wrote under the heading, A History of Ethnic Tension and Resentment. He traced the origin of “the national resentment of the Igbo” to its culture that “gave the Igbo man an unquestioned advantage over his compatriots in securing credentials for advancement in Nigerian colonial society.”

He observed that the Igbo culture’s emphasis on change, individualism and competitiveness gave his ethnic group an edge over the Hausa/Fulani man who was hindered by a “wary religion” and the Yoruba man who was hampered by” traditional hierarchies.”


He therefore described the Igbo, who are predominantly Catholic, as “fearing no god or man, was “custom-made to grasp the opportunities, such as they were, of the white man’s dispensations. And the Igbo did so with both hands.”

He delved into history with his claim, asserting that the Igbo overcame the earlier Yoruba advantage within two decades earlier in the twentieth century.

“Although the Yoruba had a huge historical and geographical head start, the Igbo wiped out their handicap in one fantastic burst of energy in the twenty years between 1930 and 1950.”

He narrated the earlier advantage of Yoruba as contingent on their location on the coastline, but once the missionaries crossed the Niger, the Igbo took advantage of the opportunity and overtook the Yoruba.

‘The increase was so exponential in such a short time that within three short decades the Igbos had closed the gap and quickly moved ahead as the group with the highest literacy rate, the highest standard of living, and the greatest of citizens with postsecondary education in Nigeria,” he contended.

He said Nigerian leadership should have taken advantage of the gbo talent and this failure was partly responsible for the failure of the Nigerian state, explaining further that competitive individualism and the adventurous spirit of the Igbo was a boon Nigerian leaders failed to recognize and harness for modernization.


“Nigeria’s pathetic attempt to crush these idiosyncrasies rather than celebrate them is one of the fundamental reasons the country has not developed as it should and has emerged as a laughingstock,” he claimed.

He noted that the ousting of prominent Igbos from top offices was a ploy to achieve a simple and crude goal. He said what the Nigerians wanted was to “get the achievers out and replace them with less qualified individuals from the desired ethnic background so as to gain access to the resources of the state.”

Achebe, however, saved some criticisms for his kinsmen. He criticised them for what he described as “hubris, overweening pride and thoughtlessness, which invite envy and hatred or even worse that can obsess the mind with material success and dispose it to all kinds of crude showiness.”

He added that “contemporary Igbo behavior(that) cab offend by its noisy exhibitionism and disregard for humility and quietness.

Above is a balanced criticism of Ndiigbo by an Igbo nationalist per excellence. Chinua Achebe.

Taking time to praise his people, highlighting our lead in many aspects of Nigeria endeavor through sheer hard work , despite early disadvantage of being hinterland people that met the Western civilization later, we closed the gap and are clear leaders .

But when all a supposedly Igbo man on internet have is criticism of Ndiigbo , wanton disregard of malicious posts thrown at Ndiigbo by enemies, and praise of a group of people that would never praise Ndiigbo, we don't need a soothsayer to fish out an impostor.

You simply can't be more educated than Achebe that placed Ndiigbo accomplishments ahead of those of Yorubas.
So,this deception of hiding behind veneer of education, pseudo intellectualism, and claims of neutrality to denigrate a group you claim to be part of, will always fish out impostors on internet. We saw this with Ndu chuck, Rossikk, Okija juju /mad cow, and these were old Nairalanders that played this game before you.

We have been there and back before,many times.

pazienza:


What argument exactly? That the Yorubas are more accomplished than Ndiigbo?

There is no argument bro. You are who you are. You are not Igbo.

Just one of many arguments, yes. I didn't just say they're more accomplished than Igbos. They're the most accomplished tribe in the country. Deluding yourself otherwise will not change the fact. I could rile off a host of indicators of their greater success, but even I feel bad having to castigate my own tribe because of the chest-beating stuupidity of you and your ilk.

pazienza:


Even Nduchuks, a Fulani man can speak more Igbo proverbs than me, and indeed was claiming to be an Igbo from Abriba as early as 2007 on this forum, before his many Igbophobic stands on hotly contested issues here exposed him.

It takes more than just writing in Igbo to be an Igbo person.

Pazienza Odogwu Ike udo na joy diri gi.

Obi1kenobi:


You seem to be doing most of the crying though. The very idea of saying I'm not Igbo is self-pacification to dry your bitter tears when you have no arguments.

Mr Man.
you are not Igbo.
you can only deceive ur fellow gullible Yoruba's like igbodefender aka youngadvocate

[b]He narrated the earlier advantage of Yoruba as contingent on their location on the coastline, but once the missionaries crossed the Niger, the Igbo took advantage of the opportunity and overtook the Yoruba.

‘The increase was so exponential in such a short time that within three short decades the Igbos had closed the gap and quickly moved ahead as the group with the highest literacy rate, the highest standard of living, and the greatest of citizens with postsecondary education in Nigeria,” he contended.

He said Nigerian leadership should have taken advantage of the gbo talent and this failure was partly responsible for the failure of the Nigerian state, explaining further that competitive individualism and the adventurous spirit of the Igbo was a boon Nigerian leaders failed to recognize and harness for modernization.


“Nigeria’s pathetic attempt to crush these idiosyncrasies rather than celebrate them is one of the fundamental reasons the country has not developed as it should and has emerged as a laughingstock,”[/b]

Obi1kenobi:


Just one of many arguments, yes. I didn't just say they're more accomplished than Igbos. They're the most accomplished tribe in the country. Deluding yourself otherwise will not change the fact. I could rile off a host of indicators of their greater success, but even I feel bad having to castigate my own tribe because of the chest-beating stuupidity of you and your ilk.

Of course. As a Yoruba man, you have no option but to believe so. It's your opinion, which you are entitled to.

Why exactly you feel that impersonating Ndiigbo will make us to accept your Yoruba opinions, rather than fish you out as a Yoruba you are, is what I'm yet to understand.
Such cowardice and treachery stinks to high heavens, but then again, we have come to except nothing less from Afonjas, a snake will always give birth to long things.

GuyWise:

Pazienza Odogwu Ike udo na joy diri gi.

Dalu, Nwanne mmadu.

pazienza:
Above is a balanced criticism of Ndiigbo by an Igbo nationalist per excellent. Chinua Achebe.

Taking time to praise his people, highlighting our lead in many aspects of Nigeria endeavor through sheer hard work , despite early disadvantage of being hinterland people that met the Western civilization later, we closed the gap and are clear leaders .

But when all a supposedly Igbo man on internet have is criticism of Ndiigbo , wanton disregard of malicious posts thrown at Ndiigbo by enemies, and praise of a group of people that would never praise Ndiigbo, we don't need a soothsayer to fish out an impostor.

There's little balanced about Achebe's criticism despite the fact he acknowledged my exact criticisms of Igbos by calling out the "hubris" and "overweening pride". I know this mentality exactly because I'm an Igbo man that has spent his entire life among Igbos. And Anambrarians are the worst too.
I can tell you a short story that encapsulates the pathology which consumes many Igbos. Years ago, when I was still in secondary school, we traveled for Xmas to my hometown. I followed my dad to an Umunna meeting one morning where the agenda was the power situation in our village. My village Amaeze in Oraukwu shared a transformer with a neighbouring village, Nkwelle, and the transformer was overloaded and we had consistent blackouts, while other villages in Oraukwu (Amada, Ibenabo, Ota etc) barely saw their consistent power blink. One money-miss-road Onitsha trader got up to say "Mmadu obuna nwe oku, kedu ka anyi ga esi malu ndi bu ndi" The mooron enjoyed the fact that his mansion amidst the darkness of smaller houses always had floodlights shining out in the area to distinguish his wealth from others around him.

Yes, that man is a very tiny minority among Igbos. But that crudity fits perfectly into the caricature many Nigerians harbour about Igbos. Crude exhibitionism; arrogance; conceit; brash; loud. No respect for other groups, believing themselves god's gift to humanity and seeing themselves as some kind of master race of negroes. That's one reason many Igbos are obsessed with their claims to Jewish origins. It makes them feel like a "chosen people".

Learn some humility. It goes a long way into gaining respect and acceptance. There are about 12 million Jews in the world. Yet, they've nearly won an incredible 200 Nobel prizes (almost a quarter of Nobel's awarded). Many of wealthiest men, ground-breaking innovators, influential authors, Hollywood pioneers, even Chess grandmasters are Jewish. They carry themselves with modesty wherever they are and thrive. Stop beating your empty chests all the time. It's exceedingly irritating for other people to have to keep hearing all that crap about how you're better than everyone. Learn some fucckking humility.

Obi1kenobi:


There's little balanced about Achebe's criticism despite the fact he acknowledged my exact criticisms of Igbos by calling out the "hubris" and "overweening pride". I know this mentality exactly because I'm an Igbo man that has spent his entire life among Igbos. And Anambrarians are the worst too.
I can tell you a short story that encapsulates the pathology which consumes many Igbos. Years ago, when I was still in secondary school, we traveled for Xmas to my hometown. I followed my dad to an Umunna meeting one morning where the agenda was the power situation in our village. My village Amaeze in Oraukwu shared a transformer with a neighbouring village, Nkwelle, and the transformer was overloaded and we had consistent blackouts, while other villages in Oraukwu (Amada, Ibenabo, Ota etc) barely saw their consistent power blink. One money-miss-road Onitsha trader got up to say "Mmadu obuna nwe oku, kedu ka anyi ga esi malu ndi bu ndi" The mooron enjoyed the fact that his mansion amidst the darkness of smaller houses always had floodlights shining out in the area to distinguish his wealth from others around him.

Yes, that man is a very tiny minority among Igbos. But that crudity fits perfectly into the caricature many Nigerians harbour about Igbos. Crude exhibitionism; arrogance; conceit; brash; loud. No respect for other groups, believing themselves god's gift to humanity and seeing themselves as some kind of master race of negroes. That's one reason many Igbos are obsessed with their claims to Jewish origins. It makes them feel like a "chosen people".

Learn some humility. It goes a long way into gaining respect and acceptance. There are about 12 million Jews in the world. Yet, they've nearly won an incredible 200 Nobel prizes (almost a quarter of Nobel's awarded). Many of wealthiest men, ground-breaking innovators, influential authors, Hollywood pioneers, even Chess grandmasters are Jewish. They carry themselves with modesty wherever they are and thrive. Stop beating your empty chests all the time. It's exceedingly irritating for other people to have to keep hearing all that crap about how you're better than everyone. Learn some fucckking humility.

Pazienza,
read the Bolded and tell me if this Ediot is an Igbo man.

Obi1kenobi:


There's little balanced about Achebe's criticism despite the fact he acknowledged my exact criticisms of Igbos by calling out the "hubris" and "overweening pride". I know this mentality exactly because I'm an Igbo man that has spent his entire life among Igbos. And Anambrarians are the worst too.
I can tell you a short story that encapsulates the pathology which consumes many Igbos. Years ago, when I was still in secondary school, we traveled for Xmas to my hometown. I followed my dad to an Umunna meeting one morning where the agenda was the power situation in our village. My village Amaeze in Oraukwu shared a transformer with a neighbouring village, Nkwelle, and the transformer was overloaded and we had consistent blackouts, while other villages in Oraukwu (Amada, Ibenabo, Ota etc) barely saw their consistent power blink. One money-miss-road Onitsha trader got up to say "Mmadu obuna nwe oku, kedu ka anyi ga esi malu ndi bu ndi" The mooron enjoyed the fact that his mansion amidst the darkness of smaller houses always had floodlights shining out in the area to distinguish his wealth from others around him.

Yes, that man is a very tiny minority among Igbos. But that crudity fits perfectly into the caricature many Nigerians harbour about Igbos. Crude exhibitionism; arrogance; conceit; brash; loud. No respect for other groups, believing themselves god's gift to humanity and seeing themselves as some kind of master race of negroes. That's one reason many Igbos are obsessed with their claims to Jewish origins. It makes them feel like a "chosen people".

Learn some humility. It goes a long way into gaining respect and acceptance. There are about 12 million Jews in the world. Yet, they've nearly won an incredible 200 Nobel prizes (almost a quarter of Nobel's awarded). Many of wealthiest men, ground-breaking innovators, influential authors, Hollywood pioneers, even Chess grandmasters are Jewish. They carry themselves with modesty wherever they are and thrive. Stop beating your empty chests all the time. It's exceedingly irritating for other people to have to keep hearing all that crap about how you're better than everyone. Learn some fucckking humility.

Stop talking trash.

Achebe took out up-to 3/4 of his post to praise Ndiigbo.
He never believed we are second to any group. He wrote that we are above everyone else.

He only reserved just few part of the last part of write up for constructive criticism of Ndiigbo.

He never blamed resentment other Nigerians have on Igbos on our glory in our success, he blamed it on envy and jealousy of other Nigerians over our sudden rise to success and continuous voracious demand for more success, owning to our cultural background that emphasizes more about success than socialism and laziness.


Compare that with a scratched face like you that has no single praise for Ndiigbo, and sees Ndiigbo second to your own group, taking more time to demonize Ndiigbo rather than highlight the envy and jealousy of of other Nigerians.
With an Ijebu Igbo man like you, Igbos don't need enemies.

Ndiigbo don't need to get humble. Envious and lazy Nigerians like you need to get hardworking and outmatch Ndiigbo by dint of merit and hardwork and merit and not going green with envy and bitterness when a hard working Igbo man takes glory in his success.
Maybe then, Nigeria will stop being a failed colonial estate.

Eastfield1:

Pazienza,
read the Bolded and tell me if this Ediot is an Igbo man.

You're irredeemable clearly. But I've resolved I would do this more often. Whenever I see cretins and touts here beating their chests here about the accomplishments of their master race, I'll be here to bring some common sense to your poor souls.

“I have written in my small book entitled The Trouble with Nigeria that Nigerians will probably achieve consensus on no other matter than their common resentment of the Igbo,” he wrote under the heading, A History of Ethnic Tension and Resentment. He traced the origin of “the national resentment of the Igbo” to its culture that “gave the Igbo man an unquestioned advantage over his compatriots in securing credentials for advancement in Nigerian colonial society.”


Here is the reason Achebe gave for Nigerians resentment of the Igbo.

"The Igbo culture that gave the Igbo man unquestionable advantage over his compatriots in securing credentials for advancement in Nigerian colonial society ".

This was and remain the reason for the resentment.

It goes to show that unless the Igbo give away it's success driven culture, and become a docile race, the resentment won't stop.

He observed that the Igbo culture’s emphasis on change, individualism and competitiveness gave his ethnic group an edge over the Hausa/Fulani man who was hindered by a “wary religion” and the Yoruba man who was hampered by” traditional hierarchies.”


He therefore described the Igbo, who are predominantly Catholic, as “fearing no god or man, was “custom-made to grasp the opportunities, such as they were, of the white man’s dispensations. And the Igbo did so with both hands.”


The above is the Igbo culture Achebe speaks of.

For a supposedly Igbo person to come here and be talking about humility is an insult to us.
What humility does he speak of?

The Igbo youthwho is humble enough to be selling gala, chin chin, etc in the busy roads of Nigeria just to raise capital to be big tommorow, when his mates from other groups look down on such jobs.

Wasn't it Bayelsa state governor was complaining how Bayelsa youths sold all the menial jobs he created for them to Igbo youths who probably settle them to do such jobs, simply because the non Igbo youth found such jobs demeaning and low profit yielding.

The Igbo who isn't afraid to start small is lacking in humility?

Thunder.....