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Re: We Shouldn't Refer To Scholars Of Islam For Matters Of The Deen??? by Empiree: 3:48am On Aug 07, 2017 |
@abdelkabir, what u said up there still doesnt vindicate you of what alhusunnah accused you of. He said you are muridi blind follower. And if you accuse the brother of hypocrisy, then, may i remind you that you used to quote Jabata too before you realized he is crazy upstairs?. Remember you used to post his lectures to try to refute sheikh Habib during Ramadan 2016?. I remembered that. All of a sudden you made a U-turn. Perhaps becus too many folks condemned him?. Is it fair to say this is hypocrisy of you as well?. The reason why you could not successfully refute ahlusunnah guy was bcus your ideology resemble a lot. He is doing now what you and co used to do not knowing Allah would raise this guy to deal with you hehehehehe Deal With It For me, he is easily refuted if am determined. I already started with him but he keeps avoiding me and gives silly excuses. He doesnt know what is sufism. He doesnt know common basic terms just as you. And i exposed him lately about paper money replacing sunnah money. So he has no right to call me keferi bcus he is officially also keferi after i gave him his certificate of Hell. So easy for me to refute his nonsense. But my "mission" here is to enjoy his drama with you. I am loving every min of it. Go through my convos with him, you will realize he tried to avoid me. He has zero hikma. Do you actually think ikupakuti cant refute him?. He is just enjoying his 'show' like me bcus he is not the target here. You are 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: We Shouldn't Refer To Scholars Of Islam For Matters Of The Deen??? by ikupakuti(m): 3:58am On Aug 07, 2017 |
Empiree: No mind am I know that time, I know they are taqleedis thats why I dont like engaging them. Na dem do bumper to bumper pass. Always shouting KITAB & SUNNAH, now bring a single proof from your KITAB & SUNNAH that not all bid‘a are kufr, you start quoting UTHAEMEEN coz hes “trustworthy“ can you imagine? & they got the nerve to call people names ? This same abdelkabir sometime back, when the issue of jabata came up, was telling someone not to listen to jabata cos he could get misled by his lectures. They know they cant stand him, not with their scholar worshipping & blind taqleed. Ever! 1 Like |
Re: We Shouldn't Refer To Scholars Of Islam For Matters Of The Deen??? by Nobody: 4:01am On Aug 07, 2017 |
^ I posted a lecture of Abu ibeji(unknown to me that he was with jabata until I heard some things from him) refuting habib not a lecture of jabata, you can bring where I "used" to quote jabata if indeed you are truthful........ Your last statement proves his(and your) hypocrisy thus the tag "Sufi friends" |
Re: We Shouldn't Refer To Scholars Of Islam For Matters Of The Deen??? by Empiree: 4:05am On Aug 07, 2017 |
ikupakuti:Boda kabiru, shey e ti ri aye yin lode |
Re: We Shouldn't Refer To Scholars Of Islam For Matters Of The Deen??? by ikupakuti(m): 4:18am On Aug 07, 2017 |
Empiree: Tell them, loud it They should go & face their heavenly sent nightmare IF it was a sufi or a shia creating all those threads by ahlsunnah, all those salafi maggots would have being crawling all over the place, flooding everywhere with albani said this, uthemeen spoke that, bn baz decreed those, Now this guy is an offshoot of their ijebu aqeeda, they avoided him like plague coz they use the same manhaj but his own is unadultrated We don wait tire them no show face 3 Likes |
Re: We Shouldn't Refer To Scholars Of Islam For Matters Of The Deen??? by Empiree: 4:31am On Aug 07, 2017 |
ikupakuti:i can hardly read through a line from this post of urs cus laughter wan kill me. hightlighted is funny pass 2 Likes |
Re: We Shouldn't Refer To Scholars Of Islam For Matters Of The Deen??? by iamgenius(m): 5:41am On Aug 07, 2017 |
Empiree:Go on, take your knowledge from a Sufi and be misguided. I pity you. |
Re: We Shouldn't Refer To Scholars Of Islam For Matters Of The Deen??? by Nobody: 6:47am On Aug 07, 2017 |
@AbdelKabir why did u think jabata and abu ibeji are misguided? please prove yourself right with proof from quran and hadith . . @empiree @ikupati and other sufi and kafir like . . . @empiree i can never shy away from you because you have no proof to backup yourself. . paper money replacing dinar.. its innovation of the world not of the deen..OLODO gidi ni e.. u claim i do not know what sufi means.. i told u to explain it to me after i have told you my own meaning of sufi which you reject and you havent till date.. i ignored you earlier because you are full of lies and ignorance..and you think i shy away fr0m you? #unbelieveable# |
Re: We Shouldn't Refer To Scholars Of Islam For Matters Of The Deen??? by Rilwayne001: 7:24am On Aug 07, 2017 |
^^ What a funny thread. 1 Like |
Re: We Shouldn't Refer To Scholars Of Islam For Matters Of The Deen??? by Empiree: 10:39am On Aug 07, 2017 |
iamgenius:what is sufism? |
Re: We Shouldn't Refer To Scholars Of Islam For Matters Of The Deen??? by Empiree: 10:42am On Aug 07, 2017 |
AhluSunnah:muridi spotted |
Re: We Shouldn't Refer To Scholars Of Islam For Matters Of The Deen??? by Nobody: 10:55am On Aug 07, 2017 |
Empiree:If muridi means setting people on the straight path. . . then i am a muridi.. and mind u, i am n0t a f0llower of anybody but whoever calls to ALLAH and rasul.. to kitab wa sunnah |
Re: We Shouldn't Refer To Scholars Of Islam For Matters Of The Deen??? by Empiree: 10:58am On Aug 07, 2017 |
AhluSunnah:what do you need this tafsir for? . Did I ask for it? . You are already spotted |
Re: We Shouldn't Refer To Scholars Of Islam For Matters Of The Deen??? by AlBaqir(m): 11:31am On Aug 07, 2017 |
ikupakuti: # Comprehensive. Nothing to add. Thumbs up bro. http://alhaydari.com/ar/2017/08/60958/ Sayyid Kamal al-Haydari: "Nothing in the religion is a red line - whether it is an 'aqidah issue or a fiqh issue. Anything, any topic, can be researched. And there is nothing wrong in opposing the 'ijma of all scholars, or in opposing the conclusion of any scholar. What matters is not the scholar, but the validity of his view. There is also nothing wrong in having a new fiqh." |
Re: We Shouldn't Refer To Scholars Of Islam For Matters Of The Deen??? by AlBaqir(m): 11:36am On Aug 07, 2017 |
ikupakuti: # As in ògidì l'oun (original craze) without dilution 1 Like |
Re: We Shouldn't Refer To Scholars Of Islam For Matters Of The Deen??? by iamgenius(m): 12:07pm On Aug 07, 2017 |
Empiree:I don't know, pls enlighten me. |
Re: We Shouldn't Refer To Scholars Of Islam For Matters Of The Deen??? by Empiree: 1:52pm On Aug 07, 2017 |
iamgenius:You don't know? . And you jumped the gun?. Is this how Islamic knowledge is achieved?. I don't understand muslims today. Anyways, information is free and easily accessible this modern time. I would suggest you research (don't be lazy). That's what student of knowledge does. After that, you may return here with questions you may have. |
Re: We Shouldn't Refer To Scholars Of Islam For Matters Of The Deen??? by iamgenius(m): 2:09pm On Aug 07, 2017 |
Empiree:Brother, be sincere to your Deen. We all know what Sufism is; we all know it can lead to being a kaafir, I didn't say u are one. |
Re: We Shouldn't Refer To Scholars Of Islam For Matters Of The Deen??? by Nobody: 3:43pm On Aug 07, 2017 |
Empiree:Coz he is kn0wledgable and always give pr0of |
Re: We Shouldn't Refer To Scholars Of Islam For Matters Of The Deen??? by Nobody: 3:47pm On Aug 07, 2017 |
iamgenius:Someone defending sufi and ridicles kitab wa sunnah and do defend baba adama and other togut is NOT A KAFIR? please, is ahmad tijani and ibrahim niyas a muslim too? . . . mind u, WHOEVER CALLS A KAFIR A MUSLIM IS A KAFIR . . . do not render ur deeds useless. . better repent to ALLAH..g |
Re: We Shouldn't Refer To Scholars Of Islam For Matters Of The Deen??? by AlBaqir(m): 4:05pm On Aug 07, 2017 |
iamgenius: # Èyin melo? Obviously, èyin "salafi-wahabi" ideology. # In retrospect, how does this sound: We all know what Salafism Aqeedah is which is KUFR, and that is believing in God whose residence is located in the 7th Heaven, and every night before dawn come down to lowest heaven to see/hear those who are calling him, and this God sits/stands on a big throne, and He has hands, legs, face (Haqiqi)?! * Kindly, save your explanations and stories. How does that sounds? You don't make nonsense statements. 1 Like |
Re: We Shouldn't Refer To Scholars Of Islam For Matters Of The Deen??? by Empiree: 4:08pm On Aug 07, 2017 |
iamgenius:sir, what is sufism in its ESSENCE. Simple question. I didn't ask for story. If you don't know then, kindly be quiet. You don't get to mix people practices with essence. Islam is not a religion of terror but bigots think it is. Same attribution here. Does that make them right?. And sufism is not a different religion nor is it a sect unless you choose to make it so. And you said "we all know what sufism is". Very well then,. Can you define it? . That's ask I sled for. Thanks |
Re: We Shouldn't Refer To Scholars Of Islam For Matters Of The Deen??? by AlBaqir(m): 4:16pm On Aug 07, 2017 |
AhluSunnah: # You! there is obviously no cure for your sickness. And no amount of ruqya can heal your decayed heart and brain. # I swear by the One who has my soul, if Nabi is living today, you and your cohorts will wage war on him for being "soft, peaceful and merciful" against all those your corrupted Aqeedah has branded Kuffar. # I swear to Allah that you are FAR from Nabi Muhammad, salallahu alayhi wa ahli, who was/is described by His Lord, "Indeed, you have the most exalted character". # I am just wondering why you have not joined your brothers ISIS. 2 Likes |
Re: We Shouldn't Refer To Scholars Of Islam For Matters Of The Deen??? by Empiree: 4:35pm On Aug 07, 2017 |
AhluSunnah:indeed yet you don't know what taribiya is. You don't know what sufism is. Abeg, commot. I gave you definition of both with 12mins video definition by scholar but you continued with you distorted big-headed brain to rant nonsense |
Re: We Shouldn't Refer To Scholars Of Islam For Matters Of The Deen??? by AlBaqir(m): 4:45pm On Aug 07, 2017 |
Empiree: # When it is not his master, Jabata or Abu Ibeji. Abeg stop wasting your time on that perverted soul. 2 Likes |
Re: We Shouldn't Refer To Scholars Of Islam For Matters Of The Deen??? by Nobody: 5:05pm On Aug 07, 2017 |
Empiree:Laughing hysterically. . 1. tarbiya has no proof in quran or hadith. . if it has, quote quran and hadith to prove yourself. .2. sufi is not in islam. if it has, bring the proof from quran and hadith to prove yourself. 3. na java phone am using. .besides, what will a sufi say about sufi in islam before? na rubbish e go say na.. |
Re: We Shouldn't Refer To Scholars Of Islam For Matters Of The Deen??? by Nobody: 5:10pm On Aug 07, 2017 |
AlBaqir:Laughing.. 1. rasul was never soft with kufar. 2. calling a kafir a kafir is to call the kafir to awareness and change his ways. 3. ISIS are khawarij. so we 4re very different. . . . besides, when we muslim ummah has amir, he is the one that will kill all kufar#beheading# p OLODO. u kn0w n0thing about islam |
Re: We Shouldn't Refer To Scholars Of Islam For Matters Of The Deen??? by Empiree: 5:10pm On Aug 07, 2017 |
AhluSunnah:albaqir said your are a waste of my time. Therefore giving you evidence will further make you miserable. You are only threading religion. You don't know it. |
Re: We Shouldn't Refer To Scholars Of Islam For Matters Of The Deen??? by Nobody: 5:13pm On Aug 07, 2017 |
AlBaqir:Laughing. . anybody that does dawah with kitab wa sunnah is my master...as long as you call people to rasul..am kul with it |
Re: We Shouldn't Refer To Scholars Of Islam For Matters Of The Deen??? by Nobody: 5:17pm On Aug 07, 2017 |
Empiree:The only reason i do reply you kufars is to defend islam and rasul from your heresy . . . pr0of yourself mr kafir, so i can debunk your baseless lies. . . if n0t for people wh0 might be reading this; so as to change and c0rrect their aqeedah.. when ahlu bida says rubbish, its duty of salaf to debunk it |
Re: We Shouldn't Refer To Scholars Of Islam For Matters Of The Deen??? by Empiree: 5:22pm On Aug 07, 2017 |
AhluSunnah:but they said your are not a salaf why are you forcing yourself into it |
Re: We Shouldn't Refer To Scholars Of Islam For Matters Of The Deen??? by Nobody: 5:28pm On Aug 07, 2017 |
Empiree:"THEY" ask "THEM" why am n0t a salaf and who is a salaf. . .m0antUH |
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