I'm glad that MI is bold enough to speak up against our barbaric anti gay law. Many members of LGBT community (where I used to belong) have been jailed nationwide. Many of us are living in constant fear. This is not how we want to live. We want to be happy like every one else!

Proudlyngwa:




Like I said, anyone can edit Wikipedia, it is not automated. Wikipedia itself asks you to try your best to make it authentic. Maybe you need to re read the link you sent me.

You haven't answer the question, how else do people do research online? Is Wikipedia ruled out as a source of research?

I presented a source that there are gay animals from Wikipedia which you don't know there are gay animals, you later accept there are gay animals except you wanna argue more, I can provide another source if you have problem with Wikipedia.

ALL sexual orientation is mental.

So what exactly is your argument?

What makes you feel animals can't have mental issues.

Animals can have psychological problems but you can't say all 1,500 gay animals species are having mental illness?

As for transgenders what makes you a man or woman, your XX or xy chromosomes and your body systems. If you feel you are in the wrong body it is purely a psychological issue.

What about hormonal and biological issue? It is even more hormonal imbalance from the womb according science.

Like have said psychological test are done on them and if found biological they do surgery or hormonal therapy. Forget XY, XX, birth, genetic defect happen.

No one talked about killing them, I will keep on speaking against it, you don't treat mental issues with violence.

From my research 90% people especially religious people hate gays that they want them destroyed, killed. And they call themselves loving people. Irony right.

From this thread alone, from my posts, so many people have replied me saying harsh words and death threatenings because I spoke good for homos.

Everyone is entitled to his opinion about religion. Religion and nature are two different things.

Good you know that.

Does nature also talked about defects disorders?

Dat man must be a gay
15yrs is waiting for u

simplyhonest:

OK bro... first, adoption is made possible because heterosexual sex led to the child, surrogate is only possible because an opposite sex is involved... and when "a gay sleeps with a lesbian", it is still heterosexual... my point is, let's not try to circumvent nature.
if scientific tests shows reasons why people are gay, it still doesn't make it right... same way tests shows people with cancer and other ailments... let them get treated...

I 100% agree with you. There are people disposed to rage as the bible says but does not justify it.

Many a time, I've seen pretty secondary girls but i know it's wrong so i keep my distance.

People disposed to homosexuality too can adopt the same standard. There are many who refuse to give in too it and are to be commended

It isn't easy for them but if they want to please God, they like the rest of us simply have to hate and desist from what is bad!

thickminaj:
Nice one MI... If they can direct their disgust to pedophiles and rapist... Which isn't even consexual maybe this country will be a better place... There should be laws for adulterous people, fornicators... And the likes..

This is it.
When you have much followers some
sects, individuals and organizations
can pay you to be their voice.
I strongly think that's what has
happened in this case.
While I have no hatred for them, the
logical reasoning should be:
1. How do we identify those that
born gay.??( If there's any such thing
as being born gay)
2. How did some people come to the
conclusion that it is always
consensual ??
3. If the natural laws or God wanted
people of same sexes to get married
to eachother or get involved
sexually., Then it should be a norm
that some guys should have boobs/
or virgina & also some girls should
come without boobs/or joystick.
Most gays get into it simply by
association and environment they
found themselves in and especially
due to negligence of the family &
society when they start seeing the
initial changes.

grandstar:


I 100% agree with you. There are people disposed to rage as the bible says but does not justify it.

Many a time, I've seen pretty secondary girls but i know it's wrong so i keep my distance.

People disposed to homosexuality too can adopt the same standard. There are many who refuse to give in too it and are to be commended

It isn't easy for them but if they want to please God, they like the rest of us simply have to hate and desist from what is bad!

Lols... you are funny... still, am not grading which sin is greater or bigger... all am saying is let's not circumvent nature... let's keep the society sustainable...

Thank you MI for being a voice of reason amidst all the ignorance, hypocrisy and hatred of these homophobes.

Durentt:
you seem to have an obsession for gay threads. I've seen you on several threads dishing out vulgar words. i know your type, the Bishop Eddy Long of our world. The bishop was just like you until he was caught tearing altar boys asses.
Keep up, you'd be free from your misery one day.

u are a gay

tintingz:
I support M.I

I'm not gay and I'm not anti-gay.

Gays should be left alone, the law against them is bullshit, many homosexuals is not their fault they are gays, it is scientifically shown there are gay gene, while some gays are having gender dysphoria, a disorder that makes them feel they are in wrong body(assigned gender). People should be educated and tolerate homosexuals for thier sexual orientation as long they are not hurting anyhow, I don't see how gays are affect anyone, they are not the one killing, terrorizing, slaughtering innocent people everywhere.

I use to hate gays until when I did research about them and I realize there are biological and psychological reasons many people are LGBT.

People should stop using their religion to condemn gays or call for their killings, some countries kill homosexuals which is barbaric, killing is not the solution, there are gays among animals, I wonder why Yahweh or Allah didn't destroy gay animals like he did in that Jewish story book(if it really happened).

Let's love and stop the hate.

Just keep looking at Nigerians. Hypocrisy is the order of the day in every areas. Religion and politics especially. Am a Christian and happily married. I don't see any difference btw jungle justice and this . My opinion though

Any body in support of gay is satanic. Beware of that person.

So they are lots of gay people too on naira land. Na wa o. Like It is just a sad thing this pervert generation is fighting so hard to initiate the next generation into disaster. I wonder why the latest psychological findings for 2017 says Homos and Lesbians have the highest rates of suicides. It's a bad bad world these days.

Note: Parents please watch carefully the company your kids keep and the relations and friends you allow to hang around your kids and careful where you send them to visit and spend holidays, the kind of empire movies you watch with your kids. These demonic souls along with other demons like rapists and co are out in full force to initiate at all means and cause havoc to the next generations of society.

It is a bad bad world these days. Just check out the kind of comments on this thread and begin to wonder.

Chaiiii.

A190:
stop quoting me before I grab your pussayy and make you cum so hard

come closer let me burst dat pvssy with hard rod....hmmmm.

Jodeci25:
I dont really have problems with gays but no gay should ever come to me to tell me how sexy that i look or how he wants me badly...na thunder go fall on him

as time goes on they will be bold to tell u dat if don't know

Andal:
you do know that the ban doesn't stop people from doing it the same way the abortion ban doesn't stop people from doing that too right?

yeah but it's better than it being openly publicized. If the LGBT rights were legalized in Nigeria, the homos will not be safe in here anymore because the full hatred of the Nigerian people and her norms will be against them and the will the Nigerian government that doesn't even care of the human rights of the masses protect the LGBT community?

BigBrother9ja:

Some of you are just plainly stupìd

Define sin against holy spirit

And you are just plain foolish if you think I would waste my time to explain anything to you.

tonguengineer:

What is the truth I'm the gibberish he said now


Nawa 4 u ooo


When did common sense become an alien to u too

Correct your grammer first before trying to understand the sense he made.

Proudlyngwa:



Happy reading.

And who said you have the right judgement?? Are you God?? Judging by the likes I got,I would say I made a better judgement than you.

Amberon11:
Dont send me links to sites explaining bible verses. I wont read them.

The bible is our only authority, not whatever someone feels.

You seem to be too desperate to write off homosexuality as not being a sin. Well that's your opinion and everyone has theirs but when it comes to Christianity, homosexuality is not only a sin but an abomination.

1 Corinthians 6: 9 explicitly states that homosexuals will not inherit God's kingdom.

Oga I never said it is not a sin. Can you state or show where I said so?. I only said it is not worse than other sins people commit.
There are many sins that can send one to hell Oga,including formication and adultery like I earlier said. Stop making it seem as if homosexuality is worse. It is not. They are all the same.
It’s not that one sin is more terrible than another is, but rather that any sin we don’t repent of will result in death. Hebrews 6:4-6 and Hebrews 10:26-27 both mention this sin as well, warning us not to “fall away” or to “sin willfully.”
Also check 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 and Matthew 12:31.

harmbhrosz:
lol

According to your logic.....Why can't we protest against mouth action since our mouth were only meant for eating and talking

The mouth is meant for eating food and talk as well.

I don't know what you are talking about.

tintingz:
You haven't answer the question, how else do people do research online? Is Wikipedia ruled out as a source of research?

I presented a source that there are gay animals from Wikipedia which you don't know there are gay animals, you later accept there are gay animals except you wanna argue more, I can provide another source if you have problem with Wikipedia.


So what exactly is your argument?

Animals can have psychological problems but you can't say all 1,500 gay animals species are having mental illness?

What about hormonal and biological issue? It is even more hormonal imbalance from the womb according science.

Like have said psychological test are done on them and if found biological they do surgery or hormonal therapy. Forget XY, XX, birth, genetic defect happen.

From my research 90% people especially religious people hate gays that they want them destroyed, killed. And they call themselves loving people. Irony right.

From this thread alone, from my posts, so many people have replied me saying harsh words and death threatenings because I spoke good for homos.

Good you know that.

Does nature also talked about defects disorders?

Honestly I don't know what more, you want me to say about Wikipedia. I have told you any body can edit Wikipedia and reference anything.
That is used for research purposes does not make it perfect.
Wikipedia is a continuous work in progress.



Where did I tell you I don't know about gay animals,
I only told you about it being a mental problem.



Why should I forget XX and XY, what determines our sex is our chromosome, any other thing is either a deformity or a psychological issue.


Sort your beef out with those religious people, leave me out of it.




I don't understand your question about nature talking about defects disorder.

Nofuckgiven:

And who said you have the right judgement?? Are you God?? Judging by the likes I got,I would say I made a better judgement than you.

Is it that you can't read or don't want to read, or you just want to use what portion of the Bible suits you.

The Bible advises us to be of good judgment.
If you see someone you know you can stop, stealing from a handicapped man what will you do.

Kindly reply.
Thanks

Proudlyngwa:


You are really making an issue where there is none.
Once again I stand on the we issue, how you tend to understand it is up to you.
To make things easier, I will be using humans for you.

Humans can and will always have feelings for one another, whether the same sex or the opposite sex, sexualising it is the issue.
Love is a human feeling as anger, hatred revenge compassion and many more.
Growing up, we had that friend we always wanted to be on the same bus with, eat from the same plate, we will feel sad if we don't see for some time amongst other things. But taking it to a sexual relationship is where the boundaries have to be drawn.

This days a lot of people misinterpret their feelings, while more want to experiment.

Like I told you, I am pro family and I will defend that institution as much as I can, because it is the bed rock of society.
Gay Agenda will keep rising, I will keep speaking against it, it might be a loosing battle, but it won't make me stop.


To you it might be okay, to some it might be an agenda to reduce population, to some it might be spiritual, as for me or is an act of immorality, and immorality is damaging to society.

You keep dancing around my point, trying to change it, I keep talking of romantic and sexual feelings, you keep talking of anger or love (not the romantic kind) or whatever
i keep telling you. Two heterosexuals no matter how strong the love and friendship is between them will not even think of changing the friendship to a sexual relationship,
Read my mentioñs to you on this thread in case you are still confused. I'm done repeating myself

Keep up the good work on your fight against immorality, I hope you also speak strongly against adultery and fornication as well?

Proudlyngwa:


Is it that you can't read or don't want to read, or you just want to use what portion of the Bible suits you.

The Bible advises us to be of good judgment.
If you see someone you know you can stop, stealing from a handicapped man what will you do.

Kindly reply.
Thanks

You have not yet proved homosexuality is worse than other sins. That is the argument. Once more I ask,how do you know you gave good judgement on a topic you can't even prove?

Nofuckgiven:

You have not yet proved homosexuality is worse than other sins. That is the argument. Once more I ask,how do you know you gave good judgement on a topic you can't even prove?

First of all you started with don't judge are we free to judge now

Proudlyngwa:

First of all you started with don't judge are we free to judge now

I also stated the verse that says don't judge. So can you get past this and answer my previous question??

BigBrother9ja:

Forget this nonsense.
That your bro's classmate was definitely sick.
Homosexuality is a DISEASE! IT'S JUST LIKE CANCER.
THE BASTARDS PRACTICING SHOULD BE ADMITTED FOR TREATMENT OR (EXTERMINATED)

PS
Are you sure that man hasn't infected your bro... .?

are yhu sure that one of those older sugar daddies havnt enticed yhur sister or yhur daughter?. if my kid bro ain't gay, or bisexual to begin with, he can't, his not God ,so its not within his power, and my kid bro ain't gay, duo he get ticked off by the smallest of things, he gets self defensive and egotistic easily, the only thing am worried about is this peer pressure when it comes to this gay issue, let his friends not influence him into oppressing/bullying another person for been gay, cause if that situation arises am 80% he'd do it, bully another, cause his this typa of guy way no dey like fall hand,the bro,dude,guy typa guy, that cares how his friends and girls see him, so his always on a educated nigga level, even his dressing sense is influenced by his peers, and what is seen as dope, there very few times have seen him be original.

sometimes I worry he'd be dull or something, because of the people his around, yhu know all this thugs his kool with em.

if someone had been there during my early teen phase to guild me, and tell me what I was experiencing as a teen/child back then was normal, I probably would still be a virgin till date, if yhu leva beg girl with the last of yhur liver, or sneak up on a neighbores bathroom window peeping as a neighbour, a crush of yhurs took her bath, then no be guy yhu be, if yhuve not stolen yhur fathers money and spent it on a crush just so she'll let yhu be close to her, lay down on top of her then yhu don't miss, if yhu leva yhu leva bribe girl with lollipop, just so she'll let yhu finger her in class, then hmm.temperature was high back then with no guildiance, the places have done it in unprotected mehn, at a point yhud begin to feel sexual urge is a sickness cause nobody is experiencing what yhur experiencing.

information is key, it influences and help make the right choices, if my bro have done ,he'd tell me, my sister told me on her first, that very night she texted, I had to leave where I was n travel back the next day, that night was not funny for me, I had to read up on my sex education content n stuff, so I appear equipped, the fool she did it with was older and experienced, so he used a condom luckily, I still handed her over to older female friend I confined in.

Proudlyngwa:


Honestly I don't know what more, you want me to say about Wikipedia. I have told you any body can edit Wikipedia and reference anything.
That is used for research purposes does not make it perfect.
Wikipedia is a continuous work in progress.

OK, Wikipedia is not perfect, no source is perfect or can you tell me any research source that's perfect so I can start making use of it.

Where did I tell you I don't know about gay animals,
I only told you about it being a mental problem.

Sorry, mistook you for another person that asked that question.

Why should I forget XX and XY, what determines our sex is our chromosome, any other thing is either a deformity or a psychological issue.

Is hormonal defect biological or not?

Everyone knows chromosome determine our sex, we are talking about disorders, which many Africans lack the knowledge.

Sort your beef out with those religious people, leave me out of it.

Ok

I don't understand your question about nature talking about defects disorder.

Can we call a defect disorder nature?

Daeylar:


You keep dancing around my point, trying to change it, I keep talking of romantic and sexual feelings, you keep talking of anger or love (not the romantic kind) or whatever
i keep telling you. Two heterosexuals no matter how strong the love and friendship is between them will not even think of changing the friendship to a sexual relationship,
Read my mentioñs to you on this thread in case you are still confused. I'm done repeating myself

Keep up the good work on your fight against immorality, I hope you also speak strongly against adultery and fornication as well?

Like I said, we have different forms of feelings. When you decide to sexualise it, is what am talking about.



Hunger is a desire, deciding to eat is an option.
Having homosexuals feelings is a desire, acting on it is an option.



I am far from perfect, I also have immoral acts, I commit.
The difference between me and others is whether am doing bad or not, I will admit bad is bad,and try to stop or accept the consequences.
I know fornication and adultery are bad, I speak against it, as an imperfect human, I might commit or not commit it, but I will still call it bad, not sugarcoat it.

That being said I hate the act of homesexuality not homosexuals, if any one is homosexuals keep it to yourself,
This agenda of accepting homosexuality is what pisses me off.
More and more people are getting involved in this shit, because that is what mainstream media is selling as cool.
Kids this days want to experiment what they watch on TV because it is being pushed to them as right.
In the long run, what suffers family.
Is Nigeria ready for that? No.

Lol.... When will people realise that it is not a matter of sin with these guys?.... The people that swear on their keyboards that they could kill any homosexual are doing so because of they feel it is disgusting, no need to use some bullshit ancient text to justify anything. I was once anti-gay until I travelled out. I met a lesbian couple with whom I had a very enlightening talk with. They were people and they seemed normal. I went back with the mindset that as long as they aren't raping anybody, I simply shouldn't give a Bleep with whom they sleep with. Jeez it's a consensual relationship between two adults!!... Why are you guys not attacking the bastards that kill this country economically?.... I really wish we were more open minded

Nofuckgiven:

I also stated the verse that says don't judge. So can you get past this and answer my previous question??

A verse in the Bible says do not judge.
Another says be of good judgment.
Feel free to use what ever version suits you, because I know except you are a hypocrite, you make judgements everyday in relationship to people.

If you don't know various sins carry various degrees of restitution, commit murder and feel indifferent about it as if you just stole a child's sweet.
Only your conscience will tell you, you have done something greatly terrible.

Proudlyngwa:


A verse in the Bible says do not judge.
Another says be of good judgment.
Feel free to use what ever version suits you, because I know except you are a hypocrite, you make judgements everyday in relationship to people.

If you don't know various sins carry various degrees of restitution, commit murder and feel indifferent about it as if you just stole a child's sweet.
Only your conscience will tell you, you have done something greatly terrible.

Unlike you I don't judge and condemn,I only correct and chastise! There is a difference.
Still haven't proved homosexuality is worse than other sins. Why going in circles?? You lack words. Peace.

SonyObsessed:
Thank you M.I

Watch the fornicators and adulterers storm this thread to tell you that their sin is different.

Hypocrites.

Modified: One idiot "Salam Rush And Die" who quoted me below thinks anyone who is against discrimination is gay.

May you rush and complete your name.

thank u mr! some times I just feel the gay community are either stupid or are crazy cos if they feel its right to express that nonsense called a way of life why are some of them still going to adopt children. it shows that you cannot beat what God has made so from the beginning of creation.