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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilstjnr: 9:45am On Aug 08, 2017
timbros:


Free the guy. We didn't need Drogba's 20+ goals to win EPL titles because we play as a team. The same way, we don't need Morata to score 20+ goals to win EPL titles.

[/b]Drogba got his first 20 league goal in a season in his 3rd year is like Morata getting his in the year 2020. So calm down.

Thank you.

I hate Inconsistency

timbros:


[b]19 goals and your team isn't in any European spot? Of what use is the 19 goals?


Honestly no real big fish in EPL for now. Costa is the nearest to it.

I rate Kane ahead of Lukaku sef.


timbros:


Costa's goals have given us 2 trophies already.


How many have Lukaku given Everton?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dopeJemi: 9:49am On Aug 08, 2017
you bought a striker for 70m to score 20+ goals in 2020
alright

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 9:53am On Aug 08, 2017
timbros:
Airmark abeg which Zola are you shouting up and down here? Is it the Zola I know? The Zola that literally resigned from Birmingham job after just 24 matches as coach? The Zola that inherited Birmingham in 7th position but left after just 2 wins in 24 matches and in 21st position? Is it the Zola that have coached 5 teams but couldn't stay beyond 2 years in a team?

Is this the Zola that we should listen to instead of Conte?

Bros it is one thing to be a legend as a player but yet an all together different thing to make it in the tactical world of coaches. Ask Maradona.

You keep shouting 20+ goals everywhere, mentioning Drogba along the line. Have you forgotten how Drogba's Chelsea career started? Chelsea won the league in his first season but how many league goals did he score? Just 10 goals! His second season, Chelsea retained the title. How many league goals did Drogba score? Just 12 goals! It was only in Drogba's third season did he hit the ground running, scoring 20 league goals (which by the way is one of only 2 times Drogba score 20 or more league goals in his Chelsea career.)

Drogba is our legend no doubt about that. But looking at the numbers, you will find out that criticising Morata at this point is just plain hating.

Free the guy. We didn't need Drogba's 20+ goals to win EPL titles because we play as a team. The same way, we don't need Morata to score 20+ goals to win EPL titles.

Drogba got his first 20 league goal in a season in his 3rd year is like Morata getting his in the year 2020. So calm down.

Thank you.

Zola said morata would not fit into our style, that we should buy a striker that will hit the ground running. Fast forward, before morata played his first game, conte was already saying kane was his ideal striker, that morata needed time to adapt. If you cant see sense in what zola said and the reality on ground now, it's not my problem.

That pep has always been struggling with his defensive setups, doesn't make him dumb in other aspect of coaching a team. So if zola failed as an all-round coach in average teams, that doesn't mean he won't have a good knowledge of the type of attackers that will gel in a big team. Di matteo won us ucl, but last year he was hired and fired by aston villa within 4 months. So if matteo airs his views now, you will ask him to shut it.

Meanwhile, Zola was a chelsea attacker and a great one at that. So from experience, what he had said for now, is spot on. We are not even sure if morata was conte's first choice. If he was and he is telling us he needs time to adapt, then i have overrated him as a coach. Then the board may be right dragging foot to rush and sign more spineless players suggested by him. Let's be more intelligent in our convo.
Thank you.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 9:54am On Aug 08, 2017
grin

I hate inconsistency too. It seems Morata was bought for his touch not his goals.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 9:56am On Aug 08, 2017
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 9:59am On Aug 08, 2017
airmark:


Zola said morata would not fit into our style, that we should buy a striker that will hit the ground running. Fast forward, before morata played his first game, conte was already saying kane was his ideal striker, that morata needed time to adapt. If you cant see sense in what zola said and the reality on ground now, it's not my problem.

That pep has always been struggling with his defensive setups, doesn't make him dumb in other aspect of coaching a team. So if zola failed as an all-round coach in average teams, that doesn't mean he won't have a good knowledge of the type of attackers that will gel in a big team. Di matteo won us ucl, but last year he was hired and fired by aston villa within 4 months. So if matteo airs his views now, you will ask him to shut it.

Meanwhile, Zola was a chelsea attacker and a great one at that. So from experience, what he had said for now, is spot on. We are not even sure if morata was conte's first choice. If he was and he is telling us he needs time to adapt, then i have overrated him as a coach. Then the board may be right dragging foot to rush and sign more spineless players suggested by him. Let's be more intelligent in our convo.
Thank you.

Greeee.......greeee!

Timbros you have a mail please....
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 10:00am On Aug 08, 2017
afrodoc2:

grin

I hate inconsistency too. It seems Morata was bought for his touch not his goals.

I hate inconsistency too cheesy cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 10:06am On Aug 08, 2017
dopeJemi:
you bought a striker for 70m to score 20+ goals in 2020

alright
.

Ehn..em!!!

Timbros I think this mail is for you bros.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by chic2pimp(m): 10:11am On Aug 08, 2017
afrodoc2:


Yeah i rembember Derartu Tulu, bloody in the 10k.
I no too trust this Genzebe, she seems to have hype but not as much quality as her elders.
Meanwhile did you see Jon Jones' kick heard round the world?

Tiruye is clearly the most talented of the sisters but Genzebe is not far behind. Her List of WRs is incredible plus she is already a world champ and an olympic silver medalist.

Bruuuhhhhh Did I see it or what? I was not expectinf that If I am being Honest...Dude is also straight up savage asking If He can still be friends with Cormier?WTF after that massacre?..He called out Brock. I don't think Lesnar wants any of that tbh. This isn't the pantomine masquerading as wrestling He is used to.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by eph12(m): 10:13am On Aug 08, 2017
Erm there are other things Morata can do even if he can't score goals. His first touch can be very helpful and win you trophies. His first touch won the champions league for Juve and Madrid

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 10:16am On Aug 08, 2017
chic2pimp:


Tiruye is clearly the most talented of the sisters but Genzebe is not far behind. Her List of WRs is incredible plus she is already a world champ and an olympic silver medalist.

Bruuuhhhhh Did I see it or what? I was not expectinf that If I am being Honest...Dude is also straight up savage asking If He can still be friends with Cormier?WTF after that massacre?..He called out Brock. I don't think Lesnar wants any of that tbh. This isn't the pantomine masquerading as wrestling He is used to.

What shocked me wasn't the outcome but manner it happened cos Cormier is as strong as an ox and as tough as nails. But bruh when you are discombobulated you are discombobulated.

I would advise Jones to steer clear of the real MMA heavyweights though. He won't have reach advantage against them and definitely won't have size advantage against those monsters....won't be nice for him to develop a stutter.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 10:19am On Aug 08, 2017
I will cast final judgement on Morata when he has had a preseason. Spanish league starts late so his fitness is behind as Real Madrid had only just started preseason when we picked him up. He is not my style of striker, but I'm willing to give him a chance. What he needs to do is wake up and add aggression to his game. All those ninny style of play will not work here.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 11:00am On Aug 08, 2017
Ibime:
I will cast final judgement on Morata when he has had a preseason. Spanish league starts late so his fitness is behind as Real Madrid had only just started preseason when we picked him up. He is not my style of striker, but I'm willing to give him a chance. What he needs to do is wake up and add aggression to his game. All those ninny style of play will not work here.
Spot on.
And yes, PSG did dominate us with Luiz in midfield.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by funlord(m): 11:02am On Aug 08, 2017
dopeJemi:
you bought a striker for 70m to score 20+ goals in 2020

alright


What a consistent post! grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 11:08am On Aug 08, 2017
Nihilstjnr:


I hate Inconsistency





There is no iota of inconsistency in my posts.

If Morata score 20+ goals per season the better for all of us BUT 20+ goals shouldn't just be the criteria to judge him. Drogba's numbers have proved that we don't need a 20+ goal striker to lift trophies.

Mind you, Morata's goals won Madrid their last trophy. It must not be 20+ goals. Aside Ronaldo, Morata won Madrid most points last season.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Lana1(m): 11:11am On Aug 08, 2017
Omo see wailing grin
Someone would think u guys didn't just win d league 3 months ago. undecided

Long may the wailings continue cool

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by PietroRico(m): 11:12am On Aug 08, 2017
dopeJemi:
you bought a striker for 70m to score 20+ goals in 2020

alright

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 11:13am On Aug 08, 2017
airmark:


Zola said morata would not fit into our style, that we should buy a striker that will hit the ground running. Fast forward, before morata played his first game, conte was already saying kane was his ideal striker, that morata needed time to adapt. If you cant see sense in what zola said and the reality on ground now, it's not my problem.

That pep has always been struggling with his defensive setups, doesn't make him dumb in other aspect of coaching a team. So if zola failed as an all-round coach in average teams, that doesn't mean he won't have a good knowledge of the type of attackers that will gel in a big team. Di matteo won us ucl, but last year he was hired and fired by aston villa within 4 months. So if matteo airs his views now, you will ask him to shut it.

Meanwhile, Zola was a chelsea attacker and a great one at that. So from experience, what he had said for now, is spot on. We are not even sure if morata was conte's first choice. If he was and he is telling us he needs time to adapt, then i have overrated him as a coach. Then the board may be right dragging foot to rush and sign more spineless players suggested by him. Let's be more intelligent in our convo.
Thank you.

Di Matteo won us UCL. Zola haven't even managed us not to talk of delivering us any trophy. I know who I will listen to between Di Matteo and Zola.

Evidence have proved repeatedly that Pep is overrated.

It is interesting you never said anything about my Drogba example.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Griffon(m): 11:16am On Aug 08, 2017
Telegraph are running a report that the board has promised Conte three more signings.

Aurier, Van Dijk and Drinkwater are the players shortlisted already.

Now IMHO, the arrival of Dijk should see Azpi moved to the RWB on a permanent basis. We already have to many Centre-halfs and it's getting crowded over there.

With Azpi and Moses at the RWB, there won't be any need to bring in Aurier, who looks pretty much like Costa 0.2, rather his funds should get us another LWB, a competition for the feeble Alonso.

Drinkwater would count as homegrown talent and he knows the league well too. I won't mind having him, that our midfield needs anything that can trap the ball and tackle humans, just incase Kante shuts down.

One LWB, one CB and one CM, and we are good.

Your thoughts.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 11:17am On Aug 08, 2017
lordfalcao:
the guy dy mention Zola and desaily I come dy wonder what have this ninjas done to better their coaching career to indicate for us the type of strikers than can fit or not fit into the teams set-up.. The drogba wey he dy mention how many goals did he score every season...

I just wonder.

Even the season Drogba scored 20 league goals, we didn't even win the league. Airmark is talking as if 20 goals is a guarantee for the title.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 11:24am On Aug 08, 2017
If we sign Van Dijk, we should sell Luiz or move him to midfield permanently. That CB is too overcrowded. Christensen go soon complain.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 11:26am On Aug 08, 2017
Griffon:
Telegraph are running a report that the board has promised Conte three more signings.

Aurier, Van Dijk and Drinkwater are the players shortlisted already.

Now IMHO, the arrival of Dijk should see Azpi moved to the RWB on a permanent basis. We already have to many Centre-halfs and it's getting crowded over there.

With Azpi and Moses at the RWB, there won't be any need to bring in Aurier, who looks pretty much like Costa 0.2, rather his funds should get us another LWB, a competition for the feeble Alonso.

Drinkwater would count as homegrown talent and he knows the league well too. I won't mind having him, that our midfield needs anything that can trap the ball and tackle humans, just incase Kante shuts down.

One LWB, one CB and one CM, and we are good.

Your thoughts.
You spoke my mind already..I concur.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 11:26am On Aug 08, 2017
Griffon:
Telegraph are running a report that the board has promised Conte three more signings.

Aurier, Van Dijk and Drinkwater are the players shortlisted already.

Now IMHO, the arrival of Dijk should see Azpi moved to the RWB on a permanent basis. We already have to many Centre-halfs and it's getting crowded over there.

With Azpi and Moses at the RWB, there won't be any need to bring in Aurier, who looks pretty much like Costa 0.2, rather his funds should get us another LWB, a competition for the feeble Alonso.

Drinkwater would count as homegrown talent and he knows the league well too. I won't mind having him, that our midfield needs anything that can trap the ball and tackle humans, just incase Kante shuts down.

One LWB, one CB and one CM, and we are good.

Your thoughts.

I'll still take Aurier. He is an attacking RB that can play RWB very well.

Azpilicueta is versatile. He can compete with Alonso in the LWB position.

Assuming all those signings come in, I will play Aurier and Azpilicueta in the WB positions and slot Van Dijk in RCB.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilstjnr: 11:27am On Aug 08, 2017
timbros:


There is no iota of inconsistency in my posts.

If Morata score 20+ goals per season the better for all of us BUT 20+ goals shouldn't just be the criteria to judge him. Drogba's numbers have proved that we don't need a 20+ goal striker to lift trophies.

Mind you, Morata's goals won Madrid their last trophy. It must not be 20+ goals. Aside Ronaldo, Morata won Madrid most points last season.

I don't think you even know what your talking about. Drogba at Chelsea was playing with Balon Do'r and WPOTY podium finalist, UEFA midfielder of the year, African Footballer or the Year, UEFA defender of the year and so on...

He was not playing with Kante, Alonso or Victor Moses.

Drogba's team could afford to share the goal scoring burden...This team can't.

I don't understand how it's not immediately obvious.

I mean you're the same dude who was arguing that Costa's goals won something for us...but now Morata doesn't need to? cheesy

Be consistent mehn...

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Griffon(m): 11:30am On Aug 08, 2017
Ibime:
If we sign Van Dijk, we should sell Luiz or move him to midfield permanently. That CB is too overcrowded. Christensen go soon complain.

Van Dijk - Luiz - Cahill

This IMHO isn't bad at all for Europe and the league.

Rudiger and Christensen can serve as back-ups.

There isn't really any strong reason to jettison Luiz if Dijk signs. We are trying to bolster this thin squad.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 11:32am On Aug 08, 2017
Griffon:


Van Dijk - Luiz - Cahill

This IMHO isn't bad at all for Europe and the league.

Rudiger and Christensen can serve as back-ups.

There isn't really any strong reason to jettison Luiz if Dijk signs. We are trying to bolster this thin squad.

Van Dijk is central CB for me, not left or right. I will move Luiz permanently.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CapitalCee(m): 11:33am On Aug 08, 2017
bigkesh:



I am a better forward than Morata
How can a CF worth more millions than his career goals..
Chai na true oo Mallatta career goals forty something, price 70 Mills.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilstjnr: 11:34am On Aug 08, 2017
Griffon:


Van Dijk - Luiz - Cahill

This IMHO isn't bad at all for Europe and the league.

Rudiger and Christensen can serve as back-ups.

There isn't really any strong reason to jettison Luiz if Dijk signs. We are trying to bolster this thin squad.

Cahill out for Rudiger for me.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 11:35am On Aug 08, 2017
Nihilstjnr:


I don't think you even know what your talking about. Drogba at Chelsea was playing with Balon Do'r and WPOTY podium finalist, UEFA midfielder of the year, African Footballer or the Year, UEFA defender of the year and so on...

He was not playing with Kante, Alonso or Victor Moses.

Drogba's team could afford to share the goal scoring burden...This team can't.

I don't understand how it's not immediately obvious.

I mean you're the same dude who was arguing that Costa's goals won something for us...but now Morata doesn't need to? cheesy

Be consistent mehn...

The question is, did Drogba our target man score 20+ goals for us to win titles? Why must Airmark continue his 20+ goals line everytime?

Yes Costa's goals won us titles, so does Morata's goals in Madrid. It must not be 20+ goals.

Stop misunderstanding me bros. I said Costa's goals won us titles and I still stand by that. Morata's goals won Madrid a title last season too. So yes, goals win titles. BUT IT MUST NOT BE 20+ GOALS.

Wetin hard to understand there?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dopeJemi: 11:41am On Aug 08, 2017
Griffon:


Van Dijk - Luiz - Cahill

This IMHO isn't bad at all for Europe and the league.

Rudiger and Christensen can serve as back-ups.

There isn't really any strong reason to jettison Luiz if Dijk signs. We are trying to bolster this thin squad.

I'd replace cahill with Rudiger though
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Griffon(m): 11:43am On Aug 08, 2017
timbros:


I'll still take Aurier. He is an attacking RB that can play RWB very well.

Azpilicueta is versatile. He can compete with Alonso in the LWB position.

Assuming all those signings come in, I will play Aurier and Azpilicueta in the WB positions and slot Van Dijk in RCB.

Sir, we talking about an Ivorian who is still facing charges for assaulting a police officer in France. This guy makes Costa look like Jesus.

Talking tactics, Azpi isn't just a fit for a LWB job. Defensively, he'd improve us down that flank, but his returns upfield would be a mess.

Unless you are a certain Lahm, whipping in deadly crosses from the left flank with your preferred right foot is never an easy skill. And he doesn't make surging runs into the opposition own area sef, no need.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 11:44am On Aug 08, 2017
diggz:


I totally agree with carragher on this one. I won't be surprised if he resigns before then self.
nobi today Chelsea begin sack coaches. If he resign we pick another person probably pochettino..

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