TheKingIsHere:
This is baseless.

If you believe that she can be happy, sad and observing with the expression why is it difficult for you to accept that she can also be jealous and bitter with that same expression?

Let me throw your own question back at you. Can you decipher the expression of ? Why do you believe it is happy and sad at the same time and not jealous and bitter? Oh, because you are a Sansa fan boy right?

Dem Sansa fans will do anything to make her look good.

Sansa death will be soothing to watch.

Because there'll have to be a narrative that warrants jealousy and bitterness but apart from inside your head, there's none she and arya had met after many years on good terms and arya accorded her her title "lady stark" commenting that it suits her, arya talks about her kill lists which she obviously laughs of, bran confirms it so she realizes the seriousness but still she is still her old mischievous little arya so she can't fathom how arya is dangerous enough to kill, she watches her spar brienne and she sees arya the assassin for the first time so she's surprised, sad about how she lost her child sister who has become an adult and happy still another stark is back in winterfell! In all her suffering, she has come to realize the true importance of family so naturally, she feels a maternal big. sister love/protection feeling for bran and arya and is sad to see that they don't need it, they're adults capable of taking their own risks without her consent and just like her mother, this bothers her, she wants to keep them safe after loosing so many family members to horrible deaths. For Jon who she only gave polite notice before, she now has genuine love and reverence as her big brother, who went out alone and proved himself a leader and a warrior with the exact same reputation for honor their father has and naturally sees lord eddard stark reborn in him and so she supported his anscension to power as against hers and she is dead determined to protect Jon from even himself and the mistakes only honorable men can make even without his permission!

Sansa is a lady that has decided to put family first ahead of every other thing and as such deserves commendation and as she said, "come winter, the wolves must band together to survive, for the lone wolf will die" winter is already here! So is the direwolves pack! And sansa is determined they'll survive! By keeping them together so stop all your sansa is useless claptrap! I have given you as much interaction as i can afford today and P.S don't listen to the voice in your head too often, it lies! Too often!

Magnifico2000:

Dont ever say that again or i will change it for you. What do you mean i watch wihout understanding?
At that point in time, did sansa know about littlefinger's plan to marry her to ramsey bolton?
FYI mr understanding, littlefinger had not made his plans known to sansa at that point in time. Be careful next time the way u use "understanding"

Knowing or not knowing littlefinger's future plans for her was irrelevant! What was relevant was what she knew amongst which were
1. Littlefinger rescued her from kingslanding from what would have been a certain death from a vengeful cersei lannister.
2. Littlefinger was sheltering her in the vale under a false identity to keep her safe.
3. She had no power of her own then and littlefinger was lord protector "paramount" of the vale then so if he was useful for nothing else, he was useful as her shield.
4. She had seen littlefinger murder a couple of times to keep loose lips shut, first ser donthos, also lady lyssa arryn her aunty from whom she heard how littlefinger convinced her to help him murder her husband lord Jon arryn so obviously, he was very ruthless and wasn't finicky about the importance of anybody he chose to kill so naturally, she didn't want to give him a reason to want to kill her.
5. Littlefinger confessed to loving her mum and to loving her too, while she'll be a fool to believe him, but the possibility of that combined with his self confessed goal of sitting on the iron throne with her as his queen meant she realized she was of importance "alive" to littlefinger and that was her leverage on him no matter how small and given the fact that he wielded power, she was determined to use that to her advantage and guess what? She has used it to her advantage in the bastardbowl and is still using it up till now keeping the vale aligned to the north when they have little strategic reason to be so.
And yet, some of you who "jonsnow"(know nothing) still call her useless!

You see why i say you lack genuine understanding of what you've been watching all these while? You see?
Honestly, i can't be explaining everything to you all the time you show poor understanding of the series! It's exhausting!
So if you don't ask nicely next time, i won't bother.

TheKingIsHere:


Calm down bro. Don't get worked up over BraniacX comment. Just dish his question back at him and watch him break dance while doing the splits.

were you describing yourself? oh my goodness!

TheKingIsHere:


Guy you no get talk. Because he said she is jealous, you conclude that it is all in his head but yet you believe that she is happy, sad and observing all at once from the same expression and it ain't all in your own head right? This is delusion de grandeur.

Well, you are a Sansa fan boy so I understand.

Yes because my theories are backed by plot and character build ups! Yours is legitimized by you alone using whatever flawed logic your imagination can conjure hence the "in your head"

Magnifico2000:

Now let me address ur response one after the other.
She wasnt even there wen robb stark was killed plus she allowed her father accept that he is a traitor indirectly causing his father's death.

The plausible argument u are talking about, both sansa and jon were both right in their opinions. Sansa wanted the catles to b taken away from d children of the house dat betrayed them while jon said no way! U cant purnish a child for his father's sins. So dey are both logical

Lastly,yhe writers or showrunners have the right to kill characters anyhow dey like. Do you want to tell me that if the writers want robbstark alive or any dead character alive uptill now they cant do it?

Maybe sansa is not useless per se but she is not smart.

Oh not again!

Sansa's argument didn't make lord stark recant his claims that cersei children were not fathered by robert baratheon, varys made that deal with Ned for the safety of his two daughters! Understand please! Understand!

Secondly, she didn't need to be there to know how Robb stark died! It was common news that the need for the Frey army plus the need to repair his damaged honor with the Frey's made him accept edmure Tully's wedding to a Frey hence the red wedding hence his death!
Stop rewriting the narratives!

The writers designed the characters and did so in particular ways, let's not redesign the characters for them please

Magnifico2000:
Pls hw do i gt d links for the spoilers of GOT season 7 and 8.. i cant get a reliable one using google

Most spoilers are on YouTube, check YouTube

francawilson:

Who's the knight king

The Leader of the Army of the Dead.

Magnifico2000:

Facial expressions dont really represnt someone intentions or feelings. You all should forget about d look on sansa's face until she exhibits the character in her.

She was just surprised she's different, not jealous of her.

CecyAdrian:


Lol, stop trying to show off, it makes you sound pathetic, though it's quite amusing and amazing how you contradict yourself without even realizing it.

Now, let's look at your statement;

what was the meaning of the word 'interested' which you used, while at it, also check the context in which you used that word 'interested' then get to me.

Gracias

How about we take a look at your statement and what the arguement is all about

*Breaks Ghost Mode*
Cerci was never interested in Robert, their marriage was more or less a business deal, she got her own 'amusement' else where and there was no need for her to use her 'female power' on Robert (the show didn't show us any). To Cerci, Robert was just an annoying figure she had to put up with for her family name.

Now, when you come to Sansa and Ramsey, their relationship was quite different, the more reason why Sansa should have deployed every tactics she knows or have heard of for Ramsey. Though Ramsey was a psycho, but if Sansa played her cards well, she would have stopped that rape and gained control of Ramsey, rather she preferred to be 'Sansa'. LF married her off to Ramsey for a reason and if she were wise and smart enough, she would have had a hold on Ramsey even if it was just to stop the rape

Do you get where the word come from or are you still confused

If you are, then it's quite unfortunate.

agrovick:


If an acclaimed mumu can be 100 % correct about what's responsible for her father & brother's death. Then maybe, just maybe we should redefine the meaning of mumu.

The same 'useless' Sansa gave a plausible argument when Jon decided not to take away the castles of the 2 families that broke faith.

Look, we all have our favorite characters on the show; Sansa is not even in my top 5 but to call her useless is just hogwash. Throughout the chaos, she has survived while the useful ones perished, that's enough for her.

Exactly, in all the situations she has found herself, it's required of her to be or look like a fool to survive, had it being she was otherwise, she would have been dead by now.

PreacherX:
Exactly, in all the situations she has found herself, it's required of her to be or look like a fool to survive, had it being she was otherwise, she would have been dead by now.

possibly, I think that's wat the writer want to portray her

BraniacX:

Because there'll have to be a narrative that warrants jealousy and bitterness but apart from inside your head, there's none she and arya had met after many years on good terms and arya accorded her her title "lady stark" commenting that it suits her, arya talks about her kill lists which she obviously laughs of, bran confirms it so she realizes the seriousness but still she is still her old mischievous little arya so she can't fathom how arya is dangerous enough to kill, she watches her spar brienne and she sees arya the assassin for the first time so she's surprised, sad about how she lost her child sister who has become an adult and happy still another stark is back in winterfell! In all her suffering, she has come to realize the true importance of family so naturally, she feels a maternal big. sister love/protection feeling for bran and arya and is sad to see that they don't need it, they're adults capable of taking their own risks without her consent and just like her mother, this bothers her, she wants to keep them safe after loosing so many family members to horrible deaths. For Jon who she only gave polite notice before, she now has genuine love and reverence as her big brother, who went out alone and proved himself a leader and a warrior with the exact same reputation for honor their father has and naturally sees lord eddard stark reborn in him and so she supported his anscension to power as against hers and she is dead determined to protect Jon from even himself and the mistakes only honorable men can make even without his permission!

Sansa is a lady that has decided to put family first ahead of every other thing and as such deserves commendation and as she said, "come winter, the wolves must band together to survive, for the lone wolf will die" winter is already here! So is the direwolves pack! And sansa is determined they'll survive! By keeping them together so stop all your sansa is useless claptrap! I have given you as much interaction as i can afford today and P.S don't listen to the voice in your head too often, it lies! Too often!

Guy forget all this long sweet stories you are typing. Sansa was suprised and not too happy seeing Arya prove her mettle against a tested battle Ox like Briene. The expression on her face was transparent enough that she felt a bit sad and handicapped. Though, i don't subscribe to the fnotion that she is useless, she has seen enough to read even the most difficult treachery around her. She is the smartest Stark around not including the time machine cheat Bran !! .

It is that displeasure LF will try to use to pit two sisters together

IamLEGEND1:

In the end, it won't matter tho'....... Prepare to have your mind blown to bits with my season 8 spoilers..... I've been in contact with the showrunners:

Dany will defeat Cersei but Jon then kills Danaerys.
Jon takes a stand against the night king but dies in the process too.
It is then that Doctor Strange opens a portal and the avengers invade westeros.
They defeat the night king after a long, bloody battle with Spider-Man, black widow, Hawkeye and Scarlet witch dying in the process.

Tony Stark sits on the iron throne with Thor as his hand and hulk the leader of his kingsguard.

#TheEnd

What d phuck maybe that Avengers infinite war

BraniacX:

Yes because my theories are backed by plot and character build ups! Yours is legitimized by you alone using whatever flawed logic your imagination can conjure hence the "in your head"

Yeah, it is in my head and it is also in your head too. So what's your point? Your logic is also flawed and baseless

BraniacX:
were you describing yourself? oh my goodness!

Hehehe, check this thread again, you have been dancing to my tune and doing the splits just to defend poor Sansa.

Her death will be soothing to watch .

This last episode 4 is bad ass, the best ever

Its a visual effect and directing master piece

Dracarys

BraniacX:

Because there'll have to be a narrative that warrants jealousy and bitterness but apart from inside your head, there's none she and arya had met after many years on good terms and arya accorded her her title "lady stark" commenting that it suits her, arya talks about her kill lists which she obviously laughs of, bran confirms it so she realizes the seriousness but still she is still her old mischievous little arya so she can't fathom how arya is dangerous enough to kill, she watches her spar brienne and she sees arya the assassin for the first time so she's surprised, sad about how she lost her child sister who has become an adult and happy still another stark is back in winterfell! In all her suffering, she has come to realize the true importance of family so naturally, she feels a maternal big. sister love/protection feeling for bran and arya and is sad to see that they don't need it, they're adults capable of taking their own risks without her consent and just like her mother, this bothers her, she wants to keep them safe after loosing so many family members to horrible deaths. For Jon who she only gave polite notice before, she now has genuine love and reverence as her big brother, who went out alone and proved himself a leader and a warrior with the exact same reputation for honor their father has and naturally sees lord eddard stark reborn in him and so she supported his anscension to power as against hers and she is dead determined to protect Jon from even himself and the mistakes only honorable men can make even without his permission!

Sansa is a lady that has decided to put family first ahead of every other thing and as such deserves commendation and as she said, "come winter, the wolves must band together to survive, for the lone wolf will die" winter is already here! So is the direwolves pack! And sansa is determined they'll survive! By keeping them together so stop all your sansa is useless claptrap! I have given you as much interaction as i can afford today and P.S don't listen to the voice in your head too often, it lies! Too often!

Boo hoo hoo. Did I strike dem Sansa fan boy nerves?

Please spare me all dem Sansa have feelings for family crap. What idea does Sansa have to keep her family save from the white walkers? Can you tell us?

Sansa is useless, fact!!

DanielGb:


Thanx Man.

You are welcome bro, come back and testify to the quality

PreacherX:
Exactly, in all the situations she has found herself, it's required of her to be or look like a fool to survive, had it being she was otherwise, she would have been dead by now.

She would have been long dead as well as make a general in the night king's army by virtue of length of years passed since death.

Magnifico2000:

Now let me address ur response one after the other.
She wasnt even there wen robb stark was killed plus she allowed her father accept that he is a traitor indirectly causing his father's death.

The plausible argument u are talking about, both sansa and jon were both right in their opinions. Sansa wanted the catles to b taken away from d children of the house dat betrayed them while jon said no way! U cant purnish a child for his father's sins. So dey are both logical

Lastly,yhe writers or showrunners have the right to kill characters anyhow dey like. Do you want to tell me that if the writers want robbstark alive or any dead character alive uptill now they cant do it?

Maybe sansa is not useless per se but she is not smart.

Now that you've realized the writers are responsible for things on the show, aren't they the ones responsible for the 'dull' Sansa character?

There is no doubt the sansa at Kingslanding brought a new meaning to dull but the Sansa that emerged is smarter than you give credit for even Tyrion attested to that & he is an excellent judge of character.

One dude here took the hatred to a new level, asking what Sansa knows about armors when she suggested the use of leather to help battle the cold

adegeye38:
This last episode 4 is bad ass, the best ever

Its a visual effect and directing master piece

Dracarys

Yeah, episode 4 is awesome but the one with the night king will be far better than this. I can't wait.

BraniacX:

Because there'll have to be a narrative that warrants jealousy and bitterness but apart from inside your head, there's none she and arya had met after many years on good terms and arya accorded her her title "lady stark" commenting that it suits her, arya talks about her kill lists which she obviously laughs of, bran confirms it so she realizes the seriousness but still she is still her old mischievous little arya so she can't fathom how arya is dangerous enough to kill, she watches her spar brienne and she sees arya the assassin for the first time so she's surprised, sad about how she lost her child sister who has become an adult and happy still another stark is back in winterfell! In all her suffering, she has come to realize the true importance of family so naturally, she feels a maternal big. sister love/protection feeling for bran and arya and is sad to see that they don't need it, they're adults capable of taking their own risks without her consent and just like her mother, this bothers her, she wants to keep them safe after loosing so many family members to horrible deaths. For Jon who she only gave polite notice before, she now has genuine love and reverence as her big brother, who went out alone and proved himself a leader and a warrior with the exact same reputation for honor their father has and naturally sees lord eddard stark reborn in him and so she supported his anscension to power as against hers and she is dead determined to protect Jon from even himself and the mistakes only honorable men can make even without his permission!

Sansa is a lady that has decided to put family first ahead of every other thing and as such deserves commendation and as she said, "come winter, the wolves must band together to survive, for the lone wolf will die" winter is already here! So is the direwolves pack! And sansa is determined they'll survive! By keeping them together so stop all your sansa is useless claptrap! I have given you as much interaction as i can afford today and P.S don't listen to the voice in your head too often, it lies! Too often!

May your le boo never leave you

PreacherX:
Exactly, in all the situations she has found herself, it's required of her to be or look like a fool to survive, had it being she was otherwise, she would have been dead by now.

Yeah, same thing goes for Sam. And guess what, Sam has been more helpful and useful than Sansa. #fact

I hope she will look like a fool to survive when the night king comes knocking on the door

rammyty:


How about we take a look at your statement and what the arguement is all about



Do you get where the word come from or are you still confused

If you are, then it's quite unfortunate.

Lol, Are we talking about Cerci her or Sansa Now, go back and read what I said about Sansa so you can stop confusing yourself and also while at it, help yourself by looking into the statement of the person I quoted.

(Let me help you a bit)

Now, when you come to Sansa and Ramsey, their relationship was quite

different

, the more reason why Sansa should have deployed every tactics she knows or have heard of for Ramsey. Though Ramsey was a psycho, but if Sansa played her cards well, she would have stopped that rape and gained control of Ramsey, rather she preferred to be 'Sansa'. LF married her off to Ramsey for a reason and if she were wise and smart enough, she would have had a hold on Ramsey even if it was just to stop the rape

I know it's out of your intelligence range but try to read the above statement again, this time hover the word different[b][/b] then continue reading. Try to find the meaning, then you will be alright.

Honestly, if after all these efforts I'm putting to help your tangled brain fails to help you come out of your pathetic shallow state of mind and reasoning, then I give up.

All of you critisizing sansa,let her be

At least she didn't turn out to be like theon even though that one suffering ain't from here

CecyAdrian:


Lol, Are we talking about Cerci her or Sansa Now, go back and read what I said about Sansa so you can stop confusing yourself and also while at it, help yourself by looking into the statement of the person I quoted.

(Let me help you a bit)





Honestly, if after all these efforts I'm putting to help your tangled brain fails to help you come out of your pathetic shallow state of mind and reasoning, then I give up.

For those anti-Sansa that will condemn me.. Chill. Sansa ain't dying soon, am no Sansa fan, but I have a theory why I said she won't die soon or not die at all.

In this week's episode "Stormborn," Arya decided to head back to Winterfell after finding out from Hot Pie that her brother (cousin) is still alive. This always seemed sort of inevitable, I knew Arya won't go to King's landing cux the show's been dropping clues about Arya's journey to the North for a while.

Back in season six , Arya left her training with the Faceless Men after killing the Waif, at which point Jaqen H'ghar said, "Finally a girl is no one." This was what Arya had been waiting to hear from him, but she responded by saying, "A girl is Arya Stark of Winterfell, and I'm going home."

Now comes the alleged hint-dropping: Cut to Jon Snow telling Sansa that he'll protect her from Ramsay Bolton. How does Sansa respond? "No one can protect me. No one can protect anyone." At the time this seemed like a fatalistic but accurate interpretation of the danger presented by Ramsay, but what if it was really a hint that No One, aka Arya, would be coming home to begin her stint as Sansa's Protector?

Sansa's word choice could have been a coincidence, of course, but that seems unlikely given the show's history of Easter eggs and subtle callbacks to the past. At the very least, let’s hope that Sansa and Arya get along better now than they did back in season one. That sisterly bickering has no place in the Great War. Jst a theory. I've observed u need all pieces from S1 to current Episode to really understand GOT.

opestein:
possibly, I think that's wat the writer want to portray her

Yeah, definitely!
When we look at Sansa of then and Sansa of now, she has really matured!

Nicolars:
All of you critisizing sansa,let her be

At least she didn't turn out to be like theon even though that one suffering ain't from here

You are right. Theon is also useless

They both deserve to die. I wonder why the writer kept two useless people alive till this time

CecyAdrian:


Lol, Are we talking about Cerci her or Sansa Now, go back and read what I said about Sansa so you can stop confusing yourself and also while at it, help yourself by looking into the statement of the person I quoted.

(Let me help you a bit)




I know it's out of your intelligence range but try to read the above statement again, this time hover the word different[b][/b] then continue reading. Try to find the meaning, then you will be alright.

Honestly, if after all these efforts I'm putting to help your tangled brain fails to help you come out of your pathetic shallow state of mind and reasoning, then I give up.

Tangled brain.... waoh u sure know how to use abusive words. you must be very proud of yourself.

But i will stopped with this back and forth exchanged.

Its clear you dont understand how words referencing works.

Simple... Sansa has evolve from a fairytales princess to a realist one

Peace out

TheKingIsHere:
Yeah, same thing goes for Sam. And guess what, Sam has been more helpful and useful than Sansa. #fact

I hope she will look like a fool to survive when the night king comes knocking on the door

You should know that you don't have to be a fighter, a Dragon, a Warrior to Survive.... Will you say that because Catelyn, Ned's wife does not know how to fight or she doesn't have any special gift makes her irrelevant before her death in the Red Wedding? She has her part to play. Don't forget, Jon Snow would be dead by now if not for Sansa and don't test faith.... He might not be brought back to life if he had died in the Battle with Ramsey Bolton, because there won't even be a body l, I trust Ramsey... he would have feed him to the dogs!

rammyty:



Tangled brain.... waoh u sure know how to use abusive words. you must be very proud of yourself.

But i will stopped with this back and forth exchanged.

Its clear you dont understand how words referencing works.

Simple... Sansa has evolve from a fairytales princess to a realist one

Peace out

Don't get so angry and defensive now...I only gave u back what you deserved or rather 'asked for' since you couldn't jump on one's mention without using abusive foul words. Learn to argue in a civil way next time, not everyone (me included) have patience for ill-mannered people.

Sansa evolved from her fairytale mindset?? Well...let's see how that pans out in the episodes to come.

Gracias

TheKingIsHere:
Yeah, same thing goes for Sam. And guess what, Sam has been more helpful and useful than Sansa. #fact

I hope she will look like a fool to survive when the night king comes knocking on the door

Seriously though, what is it with you and Sansa did she make your girlfriend leave you by turning her into a lesbian is that why your just so adamant to belittle the poor girl

As per the bolded part Sansa can't fight true, but same goes for Dany, Cersei and several other people in Westeros. I doubt they would be able to do anything against the night king one on one. So what's your point here.

Anyways enough of this negative argument, you have your stance fine we've all heard it. Can we move on to better topics.